S11.E04: Frozen Assets

[breezy424]

5 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

I believe Ryan has been deployed a total of 4 times but only once during their marriage, right after Troy was born, the other 3 times were before they met and got married. I agree with the rest of your post though.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how many times Ryan was deployed or how many times he was since being with Brianna, but even if it was once, they still get it.

[stcroix]

On ‎7‎/‎18‎/‎2016 at 11:02 PM, mbaywife123 said:

Good grief, Kelly's mom look like she just crawled out of the pickled jar.

Has anyone here seen the 1999 movie Drop Dead Gorgeous?  (about a beauty pageant where the contestants keep getting killed off, Denise Richards was in it and Ellen Barkin played her mother)  Anyway, the 1st time I saw and heard Kellys mom I immediately thought Ellen Barkin!  All Kelly's mom needed was to be in a wheelchair with a ciggie in one hand and a beer can burned to the other!  Dead ringer :D

[WireWrap]

38 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Yeah, I wasn't sure how many times Ryan was deployed or how many times he was since being with Brianna, but even if it was once, they still get it.

Add into that her ongoing illness, her stress level has to be at an all time high IMO.

[OhGromit]

Michael uses his birthname, Michael Wolfsmith.  His instagram is below.  He seems to spend his life eating and partying.  No way in hell would I let this perpetual adolescent handle my life insurance.  I'm guessing he still collects allowance from mommy in addition to whatever commission he gets from selling auto and rental insurance to his buddies.  

https://www.instagram.com/mikewolfsmith/?hl=en

Edited July 20, 2016 by OhGromit

[FozzyBear]

So I finally got to watch:

1. I agree with the poster who thought Brianna was having a panic attack. Which leads me to

2. I am more convinced then ever that Brianna and Ryan are on a break and that's what's behind the weirdness of the move.

3. Remind me that if I ever piss off Shannon to just move on with my life. That is one hard chick to apologize to. She does not let stuff go.

4. Vicki is a horrible apologizer. She can never just admit fault.

5. I don't care at all about Megan's uterus or how much Jim wishes she didn't have one. 

[swankie]

17 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

If Shannon forgives Vicki, what will she do for a story line because she's got nothing else.

It looks like in the previews Shannon throws "I didn't cause you to cheat" into her husband's face and runs off.  I guess that's her fall back storyline.  I would feel bad for David but he's being such an asshat so far this season.  He needs to take Nene Leake's advice and stay out of "women bidness".  I used to think he was attractive, but this season he looks particularly ugly to me.  I just don't like seeing a man speak ugly to a woman, even if it is Vicki.  Can't wait for that episode to air.

[ElDosEquis]

5 hours ago, OhGromit said:

Michael uses his birthname, Michael Wolfsmith.  His instagram is below.  He seems to spend his life eating and partying.  No way in hell would I let this perpetual adolescent handle my life insurance.  I'm guessing he still collects allowance from mommy in addition to whatever commission he gets from selling auto and rental insurance to his buddies.  

https://www.instagram.com/mikewolfsmith/?hl=en

Wolfstein is the guy that

Goes out drinking on a Tuesday night.

Show up to the office at 11 a.m.

Goes to lunch at 1 p.m. and takes an hour because he had a 'phenomenal lunch' - he posted the pics, too.

Leaves early to catch a baseball/football/basketball game. Can't let those tickets he bought for the clients go to waste.

Manages to dismiss most problems by telling someone to 'take care of it'.

Has his name called all the time as in "Where's mike, did he call in?"

If he was paid for the work he actually does, He'd starve.

Probably uses his BN to keep from looking like "the boss'" kid, you know the fucking shmuck that needs the parking spot next to the door so he can a)keep an eye on his leased BMW, b) can bail quickly, c) can take his personal phone calls sitting down and out of the weather.

You stopped drinking coffee because you were tired of him asking you making the coffee run and trying to get him to pay you when you bring his order in.

He's quick to say, "they fucked up my order" - not realizing he ordered the triple, double, cow, with Splenda - no foam, then ride your ass about it- as if YOU made the mistake.

He's also in arears for the last pot luck you had - instead of cooking which he doesn't do - he asked that you bring in extra and he'll 'get you the money on the day of the party'. Then the party is pretty awkward because he makes fun of what you brought/says out loud he 'wouldn't eat that, even if you paid him' and you are too paranoid to go ask him for money.

Serves himself a huge plate from the pot luck, only to tell you that the artichoke dip is shit and the BEST is served at a place that you probably couldn't afford to eat at. , He then goes over to the phone and makes reservations for that evening while laughing and saying he was "going to eat some REAL food" after work?

I am probably wrong about most of what I posted, but I can see it happening @ bicki's office - sometimes working with family or people that are related to each other, sucks ass.

[ghoulina]

9 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

To be fair, we don't know if there was a Staples or Office Max on the way to the hospital. 

What I think happened - Vicki insisted on taking Bri to the hospital, with cameras in tow, to continue her portrayal of Super Grandma to the Rescue! But she was missing too much work, so she eventually pulled over, called an ambulance, and whipped out her laptop. Clickety clack the rest of the way to the hospital. 

7 hours ago, stcroix said:

Has anyone here seen the 1999 movie Drop Dead Gorgeous?  (about a beauty pageant where the contestants keep getting killed off, Denise Richards was in it and Ellen Barkin played her mother)  Anyway, the 1st time I saw and heard Kellys mom I immediately thought Ellen Barkin!  All Kelly's mom needed was to be in a wheelchair with a ciggie in one hand and a beer can burned to the other!  Dead ringer :D

That movie is my everything. Great comparison! (Except Barkin played Kristen Dunst's mother, not Denise's. )

[FamilyVan]

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IIRC when Michael first moved to San Diego, Vicks said that Michael wouldn't give her his address.  I don't know if Michael has moved or bought a place but depending upon the price, I think Michael would be able to get a mortgage.

I do not believe for a second that Vicki does not know where Michael lives.  This was a comment made *on the show* about three years ago.  I am certain that she has know where he lives for the past three years.

Michael is a 30 year old man, he graduated college 8 years ago, he has had plenty of time to be gainfully employed.  If he cannot for some reason get a mortgage, there is a huge problem.

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Probably uses his BN to keep from looking like "the boss'" kid,

Wolfsmith is Briana and Michael's given last name.  When Vicki married Donn she took the name Gunvalson but Donn never adopted the kids so their names did not legally change.  Their names always were Wolfsmith, they have never gone by anything else.

Edited July 20, 2016 by FamilyVan

[TexasGal]

13 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

I almost get second hand embarrassment when I see how repulsed Jimmy is by Megan.  He also drove himself to Kelly's barbecue because he didn't want to drink.  What?  An athlete with no self control?

I'm sure Jimmy drive himself so he could leave when he wanted, and not be bound by the arrival time of production's car.

[zoeysmom]

37 minutes ago, FamilyVan said:

I do not believe for a second that Vicki does not know where Michael lives.  This was a comment made *on the show* about three years ago.  I am certain that she has know where he lives for the past three years.

Michael is a 30 year old man, he graduated college 8 years ago, he has had plenty of time to be gainfully employed.  If he cannot for some reason get a mortgage, there is a huge problem.

Wolfsmith is Briana and Michael's given last name.  When Vicki married Donn she took the name Gunvalson but Donn never adopted the kids so their names did not legally change.  Their names always were Wolfsmith, they have never gone by anything else.

Michael made that comment before moving to San Diego.  Since he works from home and doesn't go into the OC office on a regular basis, Vicki helped him along with a beach condo.  Bravo did a story about the Michael's condo with Vicki's photos of the place gutted. 

I believe the condo was in the $400,000.00 range, plus the cost of a total gut job and remodel. To Michael's credit he has a roommate.  Michael's only serious income has been from working for Vicki.  He would need to make about $10,000.00 a month qualify for a traditional mortgage and have a healthy down payment.  That is a lot of life insurance to sell.  Granted he gets the rollover of annual renewals.  So I can see where Vicki might partner with Michael in getting him a home. 

[KungFuBunny]

49 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

I'm sure Jimmy drive himself so he could leave when he wanted, and not be bound by the arrival time of production's car.

Jimmy needed his car for errands

1)      Transport/hide frozen sperm from the place Megan knows about to another cryogenic facility

2)      2 hour stake out at Gas Station B in case of random medical emergency involving a cast member of OC

[Almost 3000]

8 hours ago, OhGromit said:

Michael uses his birthname, Michael Wolfsmith.  His instagram is below.  He seems to spend his life eating and partying.  No way in hell would I let this perpetual adolescent handle my life insurance.  I'm guessing he still collects allowance from mommy in addition to whatever commission he gets from selling auto and rental insurance to his buddies.  

https://www.instagram.com/mikewolfsmith/?hl=en

What's with all the furry dress-up with buddies...

[ElDosEquis]

[ElDosEquis]

1 hour ago, Almost 3000 said:

What's with all the furry dress-up with buddies...

Probably Comic Con attendees, San Diego had a HUGE comic convention where people dress up like cartoons.

It's like Mardi Gras for people who live in the basement of their mom's house and have a stash of 12 year old Playboy magazines under their bed?

[ElDosEquis]

2 hours ago, TexasGal said:

I'm sure Jimmy drive himself so he could leave when he wanted, and not be bound by the arrival time of production's car.

Man, oh man, would I LOVE to be a fly on the wall during any car rides those two have.

As Mudhen P.I. keeps droning on some topic that Jimbo don't want to touch?

I can see his grip on the steering wheel tighten and his eyes rolling into the back of his head.

He cuts her off with a :"ZIP IT - I don't want to talk about it......" and she spends the rest of the trip acting like a puppy you just yelled at.

She KNOWS you are upset by the tone of his voice, yet can't figure out what he is saying?

[teapot]

On ‎7‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 1:57 AM, Talky Tina said:

Oh OK, thanks. I didn't catch that, the only way I can watch these shows is to do something else at the same time and listen to it in the background. I was ass deep in the closet cleaning it so I missed that.  

so I take it you were also partaking of your in-closet bar?

[teapot]

23 hours ago, njbchlover said:

So, does anyone think that after Heather saw Kelly's closet with the bar built in, that she literally called her contractor on the way home and told him to stop any construction of HER closet to re-work the design to have a bigger and better bar built in to hers?   :-)

when boy-child moved out, we converted his room into a walk-in closet (he sleeps on an air mattress in there when he visits, #bestparentsever).

why did it never even occur to me that I needed a BAR?????

[Beden]

3 hours ago, FamilyVan said:

Michael is a 30 year old man, he graduated college 8 years ago, he has had plenty of time to be gainfully employed.  If he cannot for some reason get a mortgage, there is a huge problem.

I absolutely agree with you...but...my own fully employed 27 year old son has chosen (rightly or wrongly) not to have any credit cards, had no student debt to pay off (he was given scholarships and worked during summers to pay for room and board and stuff). Hence he has no credit. He doesn't have bad credit--he has no credit. He has bank accounts, pays his rent/utilities/insurance and all of that stuff without using credit cards but no credit. He took a lesson from my big bro who can't hold onto $ with crazy glue, pays his Mastercard off using his Visa and has lost 2 houses because he likes big houses in nice neighborhoods on a lake. Babyboy saw all this growing up and made a choice for himself.

I only mention this as there may be some other reason aside from laziness for Michael being able to pay a mortgage. Okay, I don't know what, but something (yes, probably laziness and happily taking Mom's handouts).

[FamilyVan]

A person who has "no credit" as you say would still be able to qualify for a loan because their debt to income ratio would still be highly favorable.

What I meant about Michael, is that he's an adult, and even people who don't have a leg up with their mom having a lucrative reality TV career, can manage to 1) have a job 2) manage to qualify to buy a condo.  

[Natalie68]

12 hours ago, stcroix said:

Has anyone here seen the 1999 movie Drop Dead Gorgeous?  (about a beauty pageant where the contestants keep getting killed off, Denise Richards was in it and Ellen Barkin played her mother)  Anyway, the 1st time I saw and heard Kellys mom I immediately thought Ellen Barkin!  All Kelly's mom needed was to be in a wheelchair with a ciggie in one hand and a beer can burned to the other!  Dead ringer :D

I absolutely love that movie.  Yep, I see it.  Allison Janey is great in that as well.

[Natalie68]

3 hours ago, Almost 3000 said:

What's with all the furry dress-up with buddies...

Nice pose of the girl with Michael at the racetrack.  You can FEEL the vapid.

[b2H]

I understand Shannon's position with Vicky and fully supported Shannon's inability to accept Vicky's apology.

Vick lied about a significant issue.  Shannon, in not knowing it was a lie (although suspicious, given what Meagan, PI, was discovering), tried to help, calling in a personal favor to offer another option for treatment for Brooks.

Shannon is embarrassed and Vicky won't come clean.  I would cut someone like Vicky out of my life, too.

[Juliegirlj]

I, too, feel like something is off with Brianna moving to OC right in the middle of a health crisis. Also, the whole ambulance scene and the miracle that Sarah just happened to be at that gas station ( with full makeup and hair coiffed). I feel kinda bad saying it, but I'm getting a hypochondriac vibe from Briana. I'm not saying she isn't having health issues, but she seems to get some weird satisfaction from Vicki worrying about her. Now, all of a sudden she and Vicki decide they want to keep Briana's health issues private....                                                                    

It amazes me that there are still viewers that believe and defend Vicki's story. Vicki admitted that she laid in the street to beg Brooks to not leave her. Does that sound like the actions of a woman that was duped and lied to?! Shannon said Vicki called her before filming even began to tell her of Brooks' diagnosis and asked for her help and support. I think Shannon was really emotionally invested and was scared for her friend. She made calls to specialists she was familiar with and asked for them to see Brooks. To find out the whole thing was a lie, and that Vicki obviously perpetuated the scam was a slap in the face. If Vicki would just admit she knew, and lied, plain and simple, they could all move on. Shannon cannot and should not accept an apology that is based on a lie. Besides, if Vicki really did not know then what is she apologizing for? 

[Juliegirlj]

There is something creepy and odd about Vicki's son Michael. It's strange that he is the one that actually sent Vicki's audition tape to Bravo. I thought Vicki's mother ( rip) and brother were both wackadoodles. Vicki is really strange, too. I thought Briana was the normal one of the family but have changed my mind a bit lately. 

Someone upthread mentioned that Briana's illness could be Hashimoto's thyroiditis. It's possible, but that is not difficult to diagnose. Ironically, lymph node swelling in the chest could be caused from Lymphoma- the disease that Brooks claimed to have. Their recent refusal to discuss Briana's medical issues made me think of the horrible irony/bad karma it would be if Briana ended up having the very disease that Vicki and Brooks lied about ( I hope Briana gets well soon). 

[Workslame]

1 hour ago, Juliegirlj said:

There is something creepy and odd about Vicki's son Michael. It's strange that he is the one that actually sent Vicki's audition tape to Bravo. I thought Vicki's mother ( rip) and brother were both wackadoodles. Vicki is really strange, too. I thought Briana was the normal one of the family but have changed my mind a bit lately. 

Someone upthread mentioned that Briana's illness could be Hashimoto's thyroiditis. It's possible, but that is not difficult to diagnose. Ironically, lymph node swelling in the chest could be caused from Lymphoma- the disease that Brooks claimed to have. Their recent refusal to discuss Briana's medical issues made me think of the horrible irony/bad karma it would be if Briana ended up having the very disease that Vicki and Brooks lied about ( I hope Briana gets well soon). 

I posted this in the other thread but I'm going to put it here because of your thoughts of her having lymphoma. I'm almost certain I heard vicki tell someone at the beach party that Brianna was going to City of Hope. So either Vicki has a hard on for City of Hope of Brianna does have cancer which would be horrible and Vicki is shying away from saying it because of Crooks and his cancer scam. 

 

Edit: I just reqatched it and Vicki told Heather she was the City of Hope and they put the picc line in.

Edited July 20, 2016 by Workslame

[HumblePi]

I haven't had a chance to read all the message posts on this episode so forgive me if I get redundant.

First I'd like to say that it only took two episodes to convince me that I like Kelly. I like her style of honesty and empathy. Sure, she feels empathetic for Vicki because Vicki put on a big sad face to get sympathy. Everyone else is done with Vicki and they can see right through her disingenuous apologies, they've hardened themselves against her attempts at reconciliations. Vicki is on the outside looking in for the first time and she doesn't like that she's been ostracized. But she would have done the some to anyone else in a heartbeat before Brooks con-game was cracked wide open.

Vicki has always proudly boasted about being the 'OG of the OC' and held her title and crown with pride like a real Queen. Now she's been kicked to the curb, has no validity to the others and just completely destroyed her regal standing. But Vicki appears to be absolutely desperate to get back into the circle and I had to wonder why. Was it easier to sever her marriage to Don than it is to sever her relationship with Bravo and the OC Housewives franchise? I actually have a suspicion that it was. The public wasn't part and parcel of the marriage failure but the public has certainly been a factor in Vicki's unpopularity. She's been judged, and not only by the other wives, she's been judged and convicted in the court of public opinion. To be this person is just not what Vicki lives and breathes for. She's the life of the party! She's the best friend of Tamra! She's the living, breathing matriarch and epitome of the heart and soul of the Real Housewives franchises. She's fallen from grace as a disgraced former queen that ruled with audacity and lack of care for others.

One thing bothered me in last week's episode. Vicki was rushing around with her business suit and high heels hurrying to get to work. Briana was in the kitchen and obviously feeling horrible. Vickie said 'well someone has to earn a paycheck' and rushed out the door to work. It struck me hard because I've been there, I've been Briana left alone to care for 2 babies while you're feeling too sick to die. I think that since Vicki is the owner of her business that she could have said  "oh sure Briana, if you're not feeling well, go back to bed and don't worry about the kids, I'm here".  She didn't she just left. The same when they were driving from Oklahoma to California. Briana was in pain (8 out of 10 on the pain scale), tired, miserable and stressed yet I never saw Vicki say, "pull the car over, I'm going to drive for the next 10 hours, you rest". These are the sort of things a woman never entirely forgets or forgives.

Edited July 20, 2016 by HumblePi

[ElDosEquis]

1 hour ago, Juliegirlj said:

I, too, feel like something is off with Brianna moving to OC right in the middle of a health crisis. Also, the whole ambulance scene and the miracle that Sarah just happened to be at that gas station ( with full makeup and hair coiffed). I feel kinda bad saying it, but I'm getting a hypochondriac vibe from Briana. I'm not saying she isn't having health issues, but she seems to get some weird satisfaction from Vicki worrying about her. Now, all of a sudden she and Vicki decide they want to keep Briana's health issues private....                                                                    

 

.I just wanted to say that some health care workers are huge hypochondriacs. Some specialize in the 'invisible' illnesses like carpal tunnel, back/muscle injuries. Brianna is sick, but what only an idiot would check out of the hospital and leave town like they owed everyone money?

She is probably sick of being sick, I can imagine her getting treatment out in OK. I think Dr Quinn Medicine Woman comes thru town once a month - that is how things go on the prarie- and NOT getting the diagnosis/treatment she thinks will cure her. Sometimes tracking down an illness isn't all that cut and dry and people get tired of being sick all the time.

[Showthyme]

23 hours ago, Juneau Gal said:

 

In regards to why she came back to the OC when there is fine health care in OKC, remember, Brianna is the spouse of a man who at that time was an active duty military member. If the base on which he was assigned had a hospital/health care, she would have had to use that facility. I have been the beneficiary of military health care and some - Bethesda, Balboa - can be great, while other facilities, not so much. With her move out of her husband's assigned area, a different Tricare insurance kicks in and she has greater choice over her health care options, with a lot of ifs involved though - if Tricare will pay, if provider will bill to Tricare, etc.   This doesn't take into factor if Brianna had other insurance through her employer, after all she did boast of making 6 figures and not needing anyone's money at the last reunion. 

Oh and another thing: Ryan does not work for the Marines. He enlisted in the Marine Corps and is theirs until they decide he is not. He entered into this contract when he enlisted and reupped. It's not "Welcome to our government" Vicki. It's called honoring your commitment. The military has harsh penalties for those who don't. 

As a military spouse, I had difficulty getting an appointment to see a military doctor. It is actually a smart choice to move out of the area and use a civilian doctor where you have more choice and say in your care. Military healthcare is fine but access can be tricky especially if you have on-going issues. Tricare is wonderful. 

I am giving the side-eye on Vicki buying a house for Briana. Ryan and Briana do not even need a down payment if they get a VA loan. 

The "welcome to our government" comment is offensive. Briana wasn't waiting for hours to get food stamps or standing in line at the DMV waiting for the computers to come back online when such a comment may be warranted. She is the wife of an enlisted military man. The military is obligated to honor Ryan's enlistment. I imagine there are many marines that the military would like to dismiss simply because they don't like them. But they can't because honor and commitment is important in the military and I thank them for it. Shut up, Vicki.

Edited July 20, 2016 by Showthyme
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[ElDosEquis]

14 minutes ago, HumblePi said:

One thing bothered me in last week's episode. Vicki was rushing around with her business suit and high heels hurrying to get to work. Briana was in the kitchen and obviously feeling horrible. Vickie said 'well someone has to earn a paycheck' and rushed out the door to work. It struck me hard because I've been there, I've been Briana left alone to care for 2 babies while you're feeling too sick to die. I think that since Vicki is the owner of her business that she could have said  "oh sure Briana, if you're not feeling well, go back to bed and don't worry about the kids, I'm here".  She didn't she just left. The same when they were driving from Oklahoma to California. Briana was in pain (8 out of 10 on the pain scale), tired, miserable and stressed yet I never saw Vicki say, "pull the car over, I'm going to drive for the next 10 hours, you rest". These are the sort of things a woman never entirely forgets or forgives.

As sad as it sounds, that is one fucked up family.

About running a business? If YOU own it and can't take a day off?

It means that you are way too invested and you don't trust anyone to fill in for a day/a few hours?

As the Brooks saga bubbled over, Bicki went to OK to try and make nice and extended an olive branch and her insurance empire when she 'retires'.

Here's the rub?

Brianna came back - she couldn't leave fast enough OK - and lands in the OC, sick, without help and two kids running around.  And bicki bails on her saying she had to 'go earn money'.

I am sure that Brianna thought that the Bickster was going to drop everything to be with her, but hey, work happens?

[HumblePi]

1 hour ago, ElDosEquis said:

.I just wanted to say that some health care workers are huge hypochondriacs. Some specialize in the 'invisible' illnesses like carpal tunnel, back/muscle injuries. Brianna is sick, but what only an idiot would check out of the hospital and leave town like they owed everyone money?

She is probably sick of being sick, I can imagine her getting treatment out in OK. I think Dr Quinn Medicine Woman comes thru town once a month - that is how things go on the prarie- and NOT getting the diagnosis/treatment she thinks will cure her. Sometimes tracking down an illness isn't all that cut and dry and people get tired of being sick all the time.

oh, I hear this. It took months for doctors to agree with each other and admit that my husband was infected with MRSA after surgery. One doctor said 'no way it was from surgery', the infection control director would say 'of course it's from the surgery!'. It was frustrating and my husband became angry with all of them. He was a walking time bomb and it was only a matter of time that MRSA would cause septicemia and infiltrate into his heart valves. After a nuclear medicine test where a radioactive material is given intravenously and then a scan is done to determine where all the radioactive material conglomerates was it determined to be the graft he that he had implanted in his femoral artery where the infection was residing, other organs and the heart were not infected. But with Briana it's different and I think even more dubious and difficult to treat since it's her lymph nodes that are affected. MRSA can cause the nodes to swell, the infection is commonly noticed before the nodes draw attention. Determining which came first, the MRSA or the infected lymph nodes is where that gray area falls, this is where doctors better know what they're dealing with and how to treat it. When MRSA comes first, swollen lymph nodes will follow as the body fights off the Staph bacteria.

Some may wonder why Briana, being a nurse, waited so long and until she was so ill that she had to be transported to the hospital on an emergency basis. I just want to add that my husband, despite a fever of 104.6 was combative and resistant to letting me take him to the emergency room. I had to threaten to call 911 and have him taken by force to get him to have me drive him. Adults that are that sick are just not thinking rationally.

Edited July 20, 2016 by HumblePi

[Giselle]

Knowing Vicki, when Brianna called I wouldn't be surprised if Vicki talked Brianna out of calling 911 and said that she would be their in 5 minutes but got there in 20. She probably thought Brianna could tough it out like she did on the drive, and again when Vicki went to work instead of taking care of her sick daughter. Still, Breanne should have called 911 first then her mother. Even after she brings her daughter home, Vicki calls it a "bad little bout" and is off to work. Geeze! Still don't care to see their storyline.

On another note Seeing Troy and Owen's feet on the furniture made me think of their father cussing out an old lady then lying about it.

Don't blame Shannon one bit for not making up with Vicki. Some friendships can't be mended.

Why is Vicki still on my screen? When will she go away?

[FozzyBear]

Ok, I have always thought that Vicki is a tornado of crazy and being her kid must be a mind fuck and a half...but why does Brianna never have any responsibilities for the decisions she makes? She's 28 for fucks sake. If you don't want to move, don't move. If you're too sick to drive, don't do it. If you can't take care of you're kids and your mom works, hire some help. I just have a short fuse for passive aggressive bitch face. Shannon's whole speculation about what strings were attached to the house just rubbed me the wrong way. My response was sort of "Yeah, probably because it's Vicki and she's nuts and so what? Everybody has strings attached about shit like that whether they admit it or not. And Brianna can say no!" I don't think anything has ever been Brianna's fault in her entire princessed to death life. Its like she sits in a room waiting for her mom or husband or someone to fuck up so she can be miserable about it.

[ElDosEquis]

3 hours ago, Showthyme said:

As a military spouse, I had difficulty getting an appointment to see a military doctor. It is actually a smart choice to move out of the area and use a civilian doctor where you have more choice and say in your care. Military healthcare is fine but access can be tricky especially if you have on-going issues. Tricare is wonderful. 

I am giving the side-eye on Vicki buying a house for Briana. Ryan and Briana do not even need a down payment if they get a VA loan. 

The "welcome to our government" comment is offensive. Briana wasn't waiting for hours to get food stamps or standing in line at the DMV waiting for the computers to come back online when such a comment may be warranted. She is the wife of an enlisted military man. The military is obligated to honor Ryan's enlistment. I imagine there are many marines that the military would like to dismiss simply because they don't like them. But they can't because honor and commitment is important in the military and I thank them for it. Shut up, Vicki.

I call "major league bullshit" on her NOT getting good care.

When you WORK in a hospital, you have access to doctors and you can 'jump to the front of the line' should you need some kind of treatment/procedure.

As an ER nurse (Unless you are a total asshole and no one likes you) you know who are the best and most competent doctors and IF you happen to show up in the ER you work at, you are going to get treated first. Something stinks about that story - I think the truth is one of the Warthog being a total asswipe and - because OK isn't the OC - she isn't about to trust the doctors there.

She has access to see a military doctor and every other doctor where she worked - and unless they treated people by boring holes in people skull, used leeches or blooded people, she had a bunch of options open to her. There is NO WAY on the planet she could get anyone to treat or give her a referral to another doctor.

I have yet to meet any HCP that can't figure out how to use the system to their advantage?

[Kiss my mutt]

I sure bet Vicki took time away from work to take care of brooks who didn't need it but won't for her daughter who is clearly sick. 

[farmgal4]

12 hours ago, Almost 3000 said:

What's with all the furry dress-up with buddies...

I think they're all smoking/ingesting the really good shit.  Nobody eats that much food at midnight unless they've got a serious case of munchies.

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I sure bet Vicki took time away from work to take care of brooks who didn't need it but won't for her daughter who is clearly sick. 

Nah, she didn't even for him. LOL The only time she went to a Dr.'s appointment was when it was filmed and she claims she sat in the waiting room when he faked getting chemo. LOL Oh, and she even said on camera that she couldn't be around him when he faked throwing up! So, No, Vicki didn't take care of Brooks either.

[Almost 3000]

19 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Nah, she didn't even for him. LOL The only time she went to a Dr.'s appointment was when it was filmed and she claims she sat in the waiting room when he faked getting chemo. LOL Oh, and she even said on camera that she couldn't be around him when he faked throwing up! So, No, Vicki didn't take care of Brooks either.

Well she did juice for him. No wait, they got some holistic juice that they tried to sell which was probably yet another of Vicki's MLM schemes. That Vic is such a giver...

[ElDosEquis]

1 hour ago, farmgal4 said:

I think they're all smoking/ingesting the really good shit.  Nobody eats that much food at midnight unless they've got a serious case of munchies.

He probably has a prescription for med marijuana, for the stress of running an insurance empire.

He better party now, when bicki is out of the picture, he is going to have to really work - funny how some people don't realize that you'll get the bill when you finish your meal?

[Snarky McSnarky]

So Ryan's "hierarchies" aren't adhering to Vicki's timeline and he hasn't been discharged from the Marine Corps soon enough for her?  "Welcome to our government."  Really, Vicki?  The U.S. Government is at fault for not moving fast enough to suit your ass?  Fuck you, Vicki.  Military personnel are still in harm's way on the other side of the World, so there are other priorities at the moment.  Ryan will be discharged when the Marine Corps is ready to discharge him.
 

[NYCFree]

I resisted go the ER one time when I had a sore throat and 103 degree fever and I had been on antibiotics for two days.  I was waiting for my own doctor to call me back and just lying around and feeling crappy.  My husband told me to just call my brother (a doctor) and ask him what I should do.  I've been to the ER for accident related injuries, it literally didn't occur to me one should go for sickness as well.  

My brother listened to me for less than a minute and just said "go to the ER now."  I went from being seen by triage to being whisked to a private station and hooked up to a vast array of monitors with an IV drip within minutes.  That frankly scared me more than anything else as I was like "just what the hell is so wrong with me that I need all this special attention?"  It turns out that I had become dangerously dehydrated and it had started to affect my heart.

I understand hesitating to go to an ER.  Even a nurse would be unknown in a new hospital and may think she would be spending hours in a waiting room when she'd rather be asleep in bed.

[Giselle]

2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Nah, she didn't even for him. LOL The only time she went to a Dr.'s appointment was when it was filmed and she claims she sat in the waiting room when he faked getting chemo. LOL Oh, and she even said on camera that she couldn't be around him when he faked throwing up! So, No, Vicki didn't take care of Brooks either.

Yes the Vickmonster did, it was when she called Terry for the fake IV in the middle of the night. ;-P

[HumblePi]

1 hour ago, NYCFree said:

I resisted go the ER one time when I had a sore throat and 103 degree fever and I had been on antibiotics for two days.  I was waiting for my own doctor to call me back and just lying around and feeling crappy.  My husband told me to just call my brother (a doctor) and ask him what I should do.  I've been to the ER for accident related injuries, it literally didn't occur to me one should go for sickness as well.  

My brother listened to me for less than a minute and just said "go to the ER now."  I went from being seen by triage to being whisked to a private station and hooked up to a vast array of monitors with an IV drip within minutes.  That frankly scared me more than anything else as I was like "just what the hell is so wrong with me that I need all this special attention?"  It turns out that I had become dangerously dehydrated and it had started to affect my heart.

I understand hesitating to go to an ER.  Even a nurse would be unknown in a new hospital and may think she would be spending hours in a waiting room when she'd rather be asleep in bed.

This made me laugh because I was at Target on the Saturday before Easter Sunday and went into atrial fibrillation on my way into the store. I recognized it and thought 'oh shit, I have a lot to do' so I kept shopping and when I finished I did some grocery shopping. Three hours later, I got home and told my husband , 'um, maybe I should go to the ER'. I knew it wasn't a life-threatening situation but when it didn't end I must admit I got a little nervous and it was tiring me out anyway. So, Briana being the big competent registered nurse with ER experience, she probably didn't want to appear to be the little crybaby by running right to the emergency room but then her breathing began to get compromised and she panicked. Briana was too ill to be left alone with two kids to care for. Vicki could have easily afforded to get a nanny or housekeeper in the house with her to help out and also to be sure Briana didn't enter into a dangerous stage of a health crisis.

[Snarky McSnarky]

On 7/19/2016 at 10:26 PM, OhGromit said:

Michael uses his birthname, Michael Wolfsmith.  His instagram is below.  He seems to spend his life eating and partying.  No way in hell would I let this perpetual adolescent handle my life insurance.  I'm guessing he still collects allowance from mommy in addition to whatever commission he gets from selling auto and rental insurance to his buddies.  

https://www.instagram.com/mikewolfsmith/?hl=en

There's also the house she bought him.  The strings reach all the way to San Diego, but he doesn't care because he has her number.

[Snarky McSnarky]

Delete.

Edited July 22, 2016 by Snarky McSnarky

[swankie]

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 9:06 PM, zoeysmom said:

So they should be very grateful to Vicki for buying and most likely over improving a home for them.  I feel like if the Bravo gravy train stopped for Vicki she would be struggling and juggling the financial commitments she has made to help her children.

According to Vicki, Ryan and Brianna are supposed to pay her back from the money they get selling the OK house.  I'm confused.  They haven't been in that house very long and surely they still have a mortgage, so how much money would they actually clear from selling that house?  I think Vicki is probably taking the same attitude as Tamra about loaning money to kids.  You probably shouldn't expect to get it back.  I think having Brianna back so that she can have a storyline is payment enough for Vicki.

 

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Briana was too ill to be left alone with two kids to care for. Vicki could have easily afforded to get a nanny or housekeeper in the house with her to help out and also to be sure Briana didn't enter into a dangerous stage of a health crisis.

If Brianna was in the hospital for a month like she claims, you'd best believe that Vicki hired someone to watch over those kids while she was in there.  Whether she kept them on after Brianna returned home is another story though.

Edited July 21, 2016 by swankie

[SCS]

This is the show in which a cast member, in essence, said she was a Republican because she wore closed-toe pumps or a high neckline or something so I'm going to cut Vicki a tiny bit of slack on her comments that the Corps isn't moving quickly enough. I doubt Civilian Vix, despite her daughter's possible attempts at enlightenment, is especially attuned to the regulations that come with being in the military, let alone the very real threats US service personnel confront daily. None of these broads strike me as terribly interested in topical issues but rather lifestyle, real estate, fashion (Benghazi? Isn't he the designer whose trunk show Saks is hosting next month?) and, in Cindy Lou Who's case, why she wasn't invited to read for random TV pilot. 

[FamilyVan]

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 Vickie said 'well someone has to earn a paycheck' and rushed out the door to work.

And keep in mind, that her duty to "work" is not just her insurance business, it's filming for the show.  So having to leave for Kelly's beach party?  Work.  Cameras in the driveway while we are leaving for the hospital?  "Someone has to earn a paycheck".  To keep her house and her lifestyle, Vicki needs to put work first, and the show is her main income.

[WireWrap]

9 hours ago, Giselle said:

Yes the Vickmonster did, it was when she called Terry for the fake IV in the middle of the night. ;-P

Oh, I can see Vicki claiming lies as taking care of someone! LOL

[bosawks]

My big question is whether Brianna rates a binder?