S08.E15: All Bets Are Off

[Tara Ariano]

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Jules lashes out after listening to the ladies trash LuAnn. Meanwhile, Ramona tries to make amends with LuAnn; Sonja is set up on a blind date when she hosts an elegant dinner party; and the ladies hit the road for the Mohegan Sun casino.

[dianagerace]

Poor Jules, she is just not good at arguing or confrontation and those are Bethany's greatest strengths. 

[shoegal]

Ramona: "If LuAnn doesn't care, then what is she so upset about?.."

LOL, LuAnn isn't doing so well with this zero fucks thing!

[motorcitymom65]

So Lu's guy was on a date with another woman, but then tossed her to the side and left with Lu? And she feels good about that? There are all kinds of alarms going off about this guy. 

[MadLove]

Michael sure loves his showers, He must be the best smelling piece of shit in NYC!

[hoodooznoodooz]

7 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

So Lu's guy was on a date with another woman, but then tossed her to the side and left with Lu? And she feels good about that? There are all kinds of alarms going off about this guy. 

Ugh.  Maybe Lu and Tom really are "soulmates." (From Before They were Housewives:) She dumped that guy she was living with to run off with the Count.  I really wonder what Victoria and No-Elle will be like, ten years from now with Lu as a role model.  

[KFC]

I'm still debating whether the engagement is real or just another one of Lu's "I'm trying to get pregnant with Jacques" storylines.

[Sai]

So Jules is upset with Bethenny and she tells her how she feels and now Bethenny is done with her?  Gimme a break.  Jules was nowhere near as nasty as Bethenny was to LuAnn or all the zillions of other people she's so nasty to.  

No matter what an ass Bethenny has been in the past I always gave her a pass because I think she's super smart, she can be funny and I think her ex is a real asshole who royally screwed her.  I even buy her products  but she's really, really losing me this season.  If you're not kissing her ass and, God forbid, you have something even slightly negative to say she's done with you.  And what grade is she in that when she's upset with you she ignores you but then talks about you when you are two feet away.  Cripes!!!  Jules specifically said she doesn't like to be talked about behind her back and Bethenny is doing exactly that but in front of her, if that makes any sense, lol.  So freaking childish.  

[Bronzedog]

I'm getting the impression Tom and Luanne deserve each other.  Hope she remembers that when she's talking to him in public and he leaves with someone else.

[motorcitymom65]

Carole's text to Lu was incredibly sweet and kind. 

[Straycat80]

Classic Bethenny. Jules tries to explain why she is upset with her and B. (Snarky comments about dumbness and eating disorder), Turns it around to be all about her. And then Carole chimes in to also make it about her too. And Ramona couldn't stand not being in the conversation for five minutes and interrupts everyone to invite them to go on a road trip. These women are exhausting! 

Jules husband is always late and takes a shower as soon as he gets home. Red flags, Jules, red flags! 

And after B. Talks incessantly about her uterine bleeding and Jules talks about her injured vagina, they are grossed out by Sonja's dental surgery? 

[bosawks]

Luanne really needs to retire "BL-Before Lu".....

[motorcitymom65]

3 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I'm getting the impression Tom and Luanne deserve each other.  Hope she remembers that when she's talking to him in public and he leaves with someone else.

What's that old saying? Something like: "the way you got them is the way you will lose them". 

[sasha206]

9 minutes ago, Sai said:

So Jules is upset with Bethenny and she tells her how she feels and now Bethenny is done with her?  Gimme a break.  Jules was nowhere near as nasty as Bethenny was to LuAnn or all the zillions of other people she's so nasty to.  

No matter what an ass Bethenny has been in the past I always gave her a pass because I think she's super smart, she can be funny and I think her ex is a real asshole who royally screwed her.  I even buy her products  but she's really, really losing me this season.  If you're not kissing her ass and, God forbid, you have something even slightly negative to say she's done with you.  And what grade is she in that when she's upset with you she ignores you but then talks about you when you are two feet away.  Cripes!!!  Jules specifically said she doesn't like to be talked about behind her back and Bethenny is doing exactly that but in front of her, if that makes any sense, lol.  So freaking childish.  

Amen.  I LOVED HER first RHONY before the comeback.  She was funny, smart, but she was actually self-deprecating and you wanted to root for her.  For someone whose mantra is "zero fucks" she certainly gives a lot of fucks when that attitude is turned back on her.  She's a self-absorbed toxic person at this point.

[parisprincess]

The people having dinner at Sonja's were having a really good time. Think it has anything to do with the fact that Bethenny wasn't there to insult or belittle anyone? Then there's the party bus where there is already awkwardness; and guess what? Bethenny IS there. Should be a really fun trip!

What the fuck is wrong with Bethenny? She talks about people when they're sitting just a few feet away from her. In fact, she's done that to Jules before. Then she tells Dorinda that SHE's talking too loud.  Stay klassy, Bethie!

I can't keep track of which mouth Dorinda is talking out of. First she tells Jules what she should say to Beth, then tells Beth what she should say to Jules. I just hope Jules sticks with her vow to never tell Beth or Carole anything again. It just gives them more to gossip about.

I had to laugh when Beth said at Carole's that Jules was yelling at her. Did she not hear herself screeching at Lu at Dorinda's and the screeching she does any time she's insulting and being mean to the person she thinks needs to hear "her truth". She really does have a high opinion of herself! What a bitch!

[KFC]

I feel like I'm being gaslit everytime Dorinda appears on my screen. Ladies, she is not to be trusted!

[nexxie]

My bet: Bethenny has narcissistic personality disorder AND an eating disorder (it's not just her mom).

Carole comes off as a mean girl.

Both lack empathy.

Creeps.

[Southernbelle55]

In Bethenny's own words, "I have tried to be as respectful as I possibly could about her eating disorder, particularly with how it relates to me...". She's so awful. I guess no one else can have an eating disorder because Bethenny's mother had one. And give me a break, Bethenny has a very unhealthy attitude towards food and I'm sure she's passing that on to her daughter. You think any of Brynn's friends share their pajamas with their mothers? And Carole--is she a zombie? Does she not have any opinions of her own? No wonder Bethenny thinks Carole is so wonderful. I used to watch this show as a diversion, but now I find it takes me a few nights to get through an episode and it depresses me. These are not nice people.

[lunastartron]

So Carole can get physical with Aviva in her own home and Bethenny can bellow "whore" and "you're a slut" at the top of her lungs while a guest at someone else's gathering but the heavens forbid that Jules raise her voice and speak forcefully across a dinner table?

I have to echo the appreciation for B's ability to somehow make Jules's mental health struggles all about her own childhood trauma mythology. Her mom, her ex, her blood-gushing orifice - whenever she behaves hatefully, it's always someone or something else's fault.

[SnarkKitty]

Texted 100 times...or, you know, 3. Same difference. Jules saying "I don't appreciate you portraying me as "a" stupid" made me giggle .

Dorinda, stop acting brand new. You know damned well it's not the place or the party. You keep bringing the same damned PEOPLE to these events and you know how it goes. And it won't change so quit playing. 

Ramona and Lou walking on Madison Avenue*, loved the film, it looked classic housewives. Funny they acted like they were walking but really didn't move 10 feet from the corner for all their movement during the whole conversation. Ha! *Cheap thrills to see them on my avenue. Even if it was 40+blocks away.

"When you know, you know, I'm going to my deathbed with this guy." Yeah, this will end well.

Sooo... thought DORINDA set LuAnn up with Tom, and Ramona's story was fabricated from thin air?  But now there's something to it, except Lu claims she didn't jump on the guy when he was with another girl; she merely saw him with her and he allegedly fell in love at first sight, let HER hand go, took yours, and you left with him. Because that's the kind of man you want to be with - one that would ditch someone he was dating for several months and close enough with to be holding hands while on a date to leave with another woman. Even if that woman is you. Oh Lu. You double talking, double dealing shitty version of womanhood, you. You're a lying liar who lies and makes up her own versions of shit with her own justifications that supposedly makes everything okay. 

I dunno. Every guy that ever tried to get with me even after being told I had a boyfriend/husband just made me think less of him - I would even ask "why would you even WANT me for yourself seeing how easy I go off with someone else?"

It's times like this I reflect on the wisdom of Mint Condition. "What kind of man would I be, and what kind of girl would you be, if you did the same?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORva1mGyyJ0

Oh wait, I know. One who has clearly been working on bagging a Real Housewife for years now. Ramona was too nuts and Sonja clearly only wanted him for his ... benefits. I'm sure he picked up on Lu's absolute thirst and realized this was a closer. We'll soon see why he wanted one.

Dorinda. So shitty, you are. A liar and collaborator and kissing Bethenny's ass while stabbing Carole in the back. Why has she turned on her so suddenly after their London lovefest?

Somebody needs to look into Sonja's intern scam. Call them bitches volunteers or something.

For someone who doesn't want to talk about this ever again, Jules, ya just keep talking about it. And how exactly does Dorinda keep getting a pass when she's doing the same 2 feet away talking about Jules that Bethenny is doing? I'm ready for someone to call her out on her two-faced antics.

Ahh, liquor. While trapped on a bus. Truth serum in a situation that forces people to deal. I'm not mad at them though. Day drinking is my shit. As is forgiving people after enough cocktails.

Edited July 14, 2016 by SnarkKitty
Had to back that shit up to throw some more shade on Dorinda.

[archer1267]

I'm SO over Bethenny. And I wish Jules had said "you know, I can HEAR YOU" on the party bus. 

Cracked me up that Sonja was carrying a handbag to her dinner party...in her own house. Reminded me of my somewhat senile grandma carrying a purse everywhere in her old age. It contained Kleenex, a lipstick,a and loose change.

[sasha206]

Whatever Carole is injecting into her face, she needs to stop.  She's wandering into Mama Elsa territory.

[KFC]

4 minutes ago, archer1267 said:

I'm SO over Bethenny. And I wish Jules had said "you know, I can HEAR YOU" on the party bus. 

Cracked me up that Sonja was carrying a handbag to her dinner party...in her own house. Reminded me of my somewhat senile grandma carrying a purse everywhere in her old age. It contained Kleenex, a lipstick,a and loose change.

I actually thought Jules was pretty savvy to not say anything. Much as Bethenny said she didn't want to rehash the incident, she did, and Jules calling it out would have only ended in more bloodshed. Girl just can't go toe to toe with Bethenny, and you just know Bethenny was ready to go off on her, so it was probably for the best that Jules kept her mouth shut and saved the snark for the talking heads.

Edited July 14, 2016 by KFC

[UsernameFatigue]

So at Dorinda's party in the Berkshires Ramona told Luann that she had heard that Tom was with a girlfriend at the Mark restaurant and that he ended up leaving with Luann. Luann vigorously denied that that ever happened. I think she may have even denied that she was even at that restaurant,  if memory serves me correctly. Then Tom in January gave several interviews saying that he and Luann met at the Mark restaurant, sparks flew and they have been together ever since. So Luann finally now decides to tell the truth, which puts Tom in an even worse light. Wonder if there was a chapter on that type of behaviour in Luann's book on class? Or the fact that she became a Countess through classless behaviour? 

These two definitely deserve each other. And yes, they will spend the rest of their lives together. That is until one of them finds a new soulmate and leaves the other high and dry. Love the quote above - the way you got them is the way you will lose them. Couldn't happen to two more deserving people. 

[zoeysmom]

Luann weighs in.  I do agree you can't steal a man. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-8/blogs/luann-de-lesseps/luann-de-lesseps-jules-was-very  More importantly, why does Ramona care?  She should be happy for her friend not fighting some invisible battle.  Should Luann say, "you are right Ramona, I am going to send Tom back to the woman he was on a date with that night."  If the woman has an ounce of pride she is glad she was over and done with him.

1 minute ago, UsernameFatigue said:

So at Dorinda's party in the Berkshires Ramona told Luann that she had heard that Tom was with a girlfriend at the Mark restaurant and that he ended up leaving with Luann. Luann vigorously denied that that ever happened. I think she may have even denied that she was even at that restaurant,  if memory serves me correctly. Then Tom in January gave several interviews saying that he and Luann met at the Mark restaurant, sparks flew and they have been together ever since. So Luann finally now decides to tell the truth, which puts Tom in an even worse light. Wonder if there was a chapter on that type of behaviour in Luann's book on class? Or the fact that she became a Countess through classless behaviour? 

These two definitely deserve each other. And yes, they will spend the rest of their lives together. That is until one of them finds a new soulmate and leaves the other high and dry. Love the quote above - the way you got them is the way you will lose them. Couldn't happen to two more deserving people. 

What Luann denied was going up to Tom and saying I am next and rolling up on him.  I think it was the visual Luann disagreed with.  It is all in how you tell the story.

[lunastartron]

How are Tom and Lu different from Eileen Davidson and Vince Van Patten?

Neither is married.

With respect to the origin of their relationship: in RHOC-speak: hashtag shrug.

[dosodog]

So when Bethanny says "If you can't handle the truth,  you can't handle me." , what she really means is "I can say what ever I want about you and don't you dare question me on it. AND!  Your truth about me is always wrong.

Let's just call her Queen of the Oblivious and call it a day. 

52 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

So Lu's guy was on a date with another woman, but then tossed her to the side and left with Lu? And she feels good about that? There are all kinds of alarms going off about this guy. 

Heh.  Slightly embarrassed, but defiant heh....If not for my mom dumping her date after dancing with my dad.  Once......and then marrying him 30 days later.  There would be no Dosodog.  They stayed married for 38 years until he died.

Not that my mom's like Lu. ;)

Edited July 14, 2016 by dosodog

[Sai]

11 minutes ago, SnarkKitty said:

Texted 100 times...or, you know, 3. Same difference. Jules saying "I don't appreciate you portraying me as "a" stupid" made me giggle .

 

Yeah, same as Bethenny saying she was bleeding from every orifice of her body.

[Thumper]

5 minutes in and I'm yelling at my TV, "No, Beth -- YOU stop yelling!"  She would not let Jules speak; kept turning into how awful it is for HER (Beth) to hear about Jules's eating disorder.  I am firmly in Jules's corner on this one.  

I am, however, once again giving Dorinda the side-eye for "counseling" everyone and speaking out of both sides of her mouth.  Why didn't she speak up for Jules at the restaurant?  She's the one who told Jules to say something to Beth.  Grrr.

[Neeners]

Jules's blog is Everything. EVERYTHING. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-8/blogs/julianne-wainstein-we-are-on-planet-bethenny. It's so good I want to quote the entire thing, but will refrain. Here's a snippet to whet your appetite:

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Since coming into this group, I've often asked myself, "Why is there always yelling and screaming? Why is someone always storming out of the room in tears? Why is someone always being mocked, insulted, judged or left out? WHAT PLANET ARE WE ON?!" And then it hit me like a meteor: We are on planet Bethenny. Unlike on planet Earth where friendships are formed and shaped through mutual support and encouragement, on planet Bethenny (which is circled 24/7 by a moon named Carole) it is acceptable for friends to disparage one another behind their backs, to judge, berate and abandon one another on an almost constant basis.

Today they were filming the reunion, and if she brought just 1/10th of what she can deliver in her blog posts, and especially this one, it's gonna be *good*.

[zoeysmom]

2 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

How are Tom and Lu different from Eileen Davidson and Vince Van Patten?

Neither is married.

With respect to the origin of their relationship: in RHOC-speak: hashtag shrug.

I can't believe this group of 50 year old women get so wrapped up in each others' love lives.  It was wrong when Luann did it to Carole but it is somehow okay when Ramona, Bethenny and even Sonja try and drive a wedge between Tom and Luann.  Granted it was fairly new and they may feel differently today but they are coming off as busy old biddies.  Not every situation requires a negative comment. 

[FanOfTheFans]

18 minutes ago, nexxie said:

My bet: Bethenny has narcissistic personality disorder AND an eating disorder (it's not just her mom).

Carole comes off as a mean girl.

Both lack empathy.

Creeps.

I agree with this. She even had to one up Jules on her eating disorder.  It's like, oh yeah you have an eating disorder, well I get sick if I'm even around someone with an eating disorder, so there.  All roads lead back to Bethenny. 

[Sai]

4 minutes ago, Neeners said:

Jules's blog is Everything. EVERYTHING. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-8/blogs/julianne-wainstein-we-are-on-planet-bethenny. It's so good I want to quote the entire thing, but will refrain. Here's a snippet to whet your appetite:

Today they were filming the reunion, and if she brought just 1/10th of what she can deliver in her blog posts, and especially this one, it's gonna be *good*.

Ooooh, thanks for the heads up.  I just read her entire blog.  Excellent!!!!

[SnarkKitty]

8 minutes ago, Sai said:

Yeah, same as Bethenny saying she was bleeding from every orifice of her body.

It's a contest?

Since coming into this group, I've often asked myself, "Why is there always yelling and screaming? Why is someone always storming out of the room in tears? Why is someone always being mocked, insulted, judged or left out? WHAT PLANET ARE WE ON?!" And then it hit me like a meteor: We are on planet Bethenny. Unlike on planet Earth where friendships are formed and shaped through mutual support and encouragement, on planet Bethenny (which is circled 24/7 by a moon named Carole) it is acceptable for friends to disparage one another behind their backs, to judge, berate and abandon one another on an almost constant basis.

I'm sorry, but why do these women - in this case, Dorinda and Jules - keep acting like they've joined some nice society ladies who lunch club, and they stay clutching their pearls at antics that built and have sustained an entire damned franchise for over a decade now? A franchise that they knew exactly what the fuck it was when they joined? This is irking me now. Stop with the Pollyanna shit, both of you. Dorinda, your man was desperate for you to sign up, and Jules, it's what you wanted forever. You both made your deals with the devil, so stop trying to show how above the material you both are. Ask Carole how well that's worked out for her.

And you both knew the deal about Bethenny and this show when you joined, surely Dorinda pulled her nose out of Bethenny's ass long enough to tell you.

What the hell happened to the quote button? And why the hell do I keep swearing/cursing in every post tonight??? Fuck if I know.

Edited July 14, 2016 by SnarkKitty

[KFC]

4 minutes ago, Neeners said:

Jules's blog is Everything. EVERYTHING. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-8/blogs/julianne-wainstein-we-are-on-planet-bethenny. It's so good I want to quote the entire thing, but will refrain. Here's a snippet to whet your appetite:

Today they were filming the reunion, and if she brought just 1/10th of what she can deliver in her blog posts, and especially this one, it's gonna be *good*.

I think she's kind of like Alex, in that she's not particularly fast on her feet. She needs more time than reality generally provides to form her thoughts on things. I'd like to see her express herself like that during the reunion, but in all likelihood, I think she'll probably stutter and stumble again. To be an ace on a reality show, you generally have to be a fast-talking, very direct/blunt-to-the-point-of-rude personality or someone who can keep their emotions in check and not get flustered, and I just don't think that's Jules at all.

[archer1267]

Tom's the one you're going to be with on your death bed, Lu? I'd see first if you can survive a season of Hamptons decadence together.

[njbchlover]

35 minutes ago, bosawks said:

Luanne really needs to retire "BL-Before Lu".....

Every time Luann said "BL", my mind immediately thought and "T" as in a BLT sandwich!   ;-)

[Knuckles]

1 minute ago, Southernbelle55 said:

And Carole--is she a zombie?

Apparently...all the evidence suggests that there is no one there. She exists as a wingman for Bethenny, nothing more. Even her face is utterly blank...there is no suggestion that she has a thought or an emotion or a reaction. 

And a bus trip...to a casino. Just like the grandmothers who line up for the casino buses in Chinatown...so, in Bravo world, this is the high life. If this show is really pulling in viewers the way Andy claims, why not do something fabulous...you want a casino, how about Monaco, Hong Kong or Macau? This is about as high-end as Ramona's extensions.

Ok, so we're on the bus, and old Bethy is trash-talking Jules to Dorinda, and then when Dorinda speaks, Bethy shushes her so loudly she might have been calling hogs. Ever so subtle. Thank god for cell phones and texting...instead of pretending to be deaf, Jules could amuse herself. And yes, not responding was smart...old Beth, as always, was looking for a screaming fight. Jules refused to take the bait.

Having failed to engage with Jules, Beth decides to "have a talk" with Sonja. This includes antagonistic body language, like using her hands as crab claws to keep Sonja at a distance. Poor woman looked so beaten down. On the other hand, the morning light is not kind to Beth's face...Sonja looks younger...so there's that.

I suspect Jules is actually a kind woman, and that Sonja has a good heart, despite all. Dorinda likes to play the go-between, keeping out of the line of fire, and Beth is pure ugly...mean as a snake, and always looking for someone else to tear apart. 

[shoegal]

8 minutes ago, Neeners said:

Jules's blog is Everything. EVERYTHING. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-8/blogs/julianne-wainstein-we-are-on-planet-bethenny. It's so good I want to quote the entire thing, but will refrain. Here's a snippet to whet your appetite:

Today they were filming the reunion, and if she brought just 1/10th of what she can deliver in her blog posts, and especially this one, it's gonna be *good*.

See, if this were Season 1 or 2 of the housewives, I would understand this reaction. What are we in now, Season 7? What the fuck did Jules think she was walking in to? If she is really taken aback by the screaming and fighting, then she really is stupid.

[Neeners]

6 minutes ago, KFC said:

I think she's kind of like Alex, in that she's not particularly fast on her feet. She needs more time than reality generally provides to form her thoughts on things. I'd like to see her express herself like that during the reunion, but in all likelihood, I think she'll probably stutter and stumble again. To be an ace on a reality show, you generally have to be a fast-talking, very direct/blunt-to-the-point-of-rude personality or someone who can keep their emotions in check and not get flustered, and I just don't think that's Jules at all.

I agree that she is like Alex. I just really, really, really want her to be 'on' for the reunion. I know the likelihood is pretty small, though. 

[SparkleznConfetti]

25 minutes ago, SnarkKitty said:

Texted 100 times...or, you know, 3. Same difference. Jules saying "I don't appreciate you portraying me as "a" stupid" made me giggle .

Dorinda, stop acting brand new. You know damned well it's not the place or the party. You keep bringing the same damned PEOPLE to these events and you know how it goes. And it won't change so quit playing. 

Ramona and Lou walking on Madison Avenue*, loved the film, it looked classic housewives. Funny they acted like they were walking but really didn't move 10 feet from the corner for all their movement during the whole conversation. Ha! *Cheap thrills to see them on my avenue. Even if it was 40+blocks away.

"When you know, you know, I'm going to my deathbed with this guy." Yeah, this will end well.

Sooo... thought DORINDA set LuAnn up with Tom, and Ramona's story was fabricated from thin air?  But now there's something to it, except Lu claims she didn't jump on the guy when he was with another girl; she merely saw him with her and he allegedly fell in love at first sight, let HER hand go, took yours, and you left with him. Because that's the kind of man you want to be with - one that would ditch someone he was dating for several months and close enough with to be holding hands while on a date to leave with another woman. Even if that woman is you. Oh Lu. You double talking, double dealing shitty version of womanhood, you. You're a lying liar who lies and makes up her own versions of shit with her own justifications that supposedly makes everything okay. 

I dunno. Every guy that ever tried to get with me even after being told I had a boyfriend/husband just made me think less of him - I would even ask "why would you even WANT me for yourself seeing how easy I go off with someone else?"

It's times like this I reflect on the wisdom of Mint Condition. "What kind of man would I be, and what kind of girl would you be, if you did the same?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORva1mGyyJ0

Oh wait, I know. One who has clearly been working on bagging a Real Housewife for years now. Ramona was too nuts and Sonja clearly only wanted him for his ... benefits. I'm sure he picked up on Lu's absolute thirst and realized this was a closer. We'll soon see why he wanted one.

Dorinda. So shitty, you are. A liar and collaborator and kissing Bethenny's ass while stabbing Carole in the back. Why has she turned on her so suddenly after their London lovefest?

Somebody needs to look into Sonja's intern scam. Call them bitches volunteers or something.

For someone who doesn't want to talk about this ever again, Jules, ya just keep talking about it. And how exactly does Dorinda keep getting a pass when she's doing the same 2 feet away talking about Jules that Bethenny is doing? I'm ready for someone to call her out on her two-faced antics.

Ahh, liquor. While trapped on a bus. Truth serum in a situation that forces people to deal. I'm not mad at them though. Day drinking is my shit. As is forgiving people after enough cocktails.

Dorinda is a shady, sinister, slippery, slithering shape -shifter.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

35 minutes ago, archer1267 said:

Reminded me of my somewhat senile grandma carrying a purse everywhere in her old age. It contained Kleenex, a lipstick,a and loose change.

No loose wintergreen Lifesavers or pink Canada mints ? 

25 minutes ago, dosodog said:

So when Bethanny says "If you can't handle the truth,  you can't handle me." , what she really means is "I can say what ever I want about you and don't you dare question me on it. AND!  Your truth about me is always wrong.

 

 

23 minutes ago, Sai said:

Yeah, same as Bethenny saying she was bleeding from every orifice of her body.

Lost at sea.

Doesn't have parents. 

Etc etc infinity ... 

 

WOW best blog ever by Jules!

Edited July 14, 2016 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[SCS]

21 minutes ago, Neeners said:

Jules's blog is Everything. EVERYTHING. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-8/blogs/julianne-wainstein-we-are-on-planet-bethenny. It's so good I want to quote the entire thing, but will refrain. Here's a snippet to whet your appetite:

Today they were filming the reunion, and if she brought just 1/10th of what she can deliver in her blog posts, and especially this one, it's gonna be *good*.

 Can't wait. Beth is due for a smackdown.

Moaner grows increasingly twitchy with each episode. What the hell is she on?

When Rocco entered, for a brief moment I thought it was Lu's ex Alex.

It appears Sonja has engaged Moaner's MD for those massive funbags that dominate her THs. Bad teeth, dark roots, no AC in the summer but some serious implants. Ah, the life of a faded UES matron.

[shoegal]

14 minutes ago, KFC said:

I think she's kind of like Alex, in that she's not particularly fast on her feet. She needs more time than reality generally provides to form her thoughts on things. I'd like to see her express herself like that during the reunion, but in all likelihood, I think she'll probably stutter and stumble again. To be an ace on a reality show, you generally have to be a fast-talking, very direct/blunt-to-the-point-of-rude personality or someone who can keep their emotions in check and not get flustered, and I just don't think that's Jules at all.

Alex with a healthy dose of Kelly Bensimone (complete with constant references to her "integrity"). I still never really understood what Bethenny did to piss her off besides saying she needed a verb. Reminded me of Kelly and the Madonna comment.

[tenativelyyours]

Frankel is loud and abrasive.  But boy is she weak when all is said and done.  Last season she really did not go toe to toe with Kristin but pretended to brush her off pretentiously when all she did was play little brat games and ran away.

 

Same thing with Jules of all people.  Sure Jules is inarticulate and wavers.  But Frankel is that dog at the dog run that snaps and snarls but the minute it gets the slightest pushback shakes In the corner with pee running down a rear leg and is the o n  one to really be a weak mess.   

Frankel just can't engage where she does not feel she has a true upper hand.  Nothing but shakes and urine stream.

Edited July 14, 2016 by tenativelyyours
Spellcheck

[HunterHunted]

I can't applaud Jules' confrontation of Bethenny because Jules spent the first couple of weeks portraying herself as an incompetent nitwit and is now angry that they think she's an incompetent nitwit. If that's Jules' self deprecating humor, then it worked perfectly. Joke's on you dumbass. Additionally, the calzone thing wasn't a joke. It was fucking weird. Just say that you were loopy on pain meds that you shouldn't have mixed with booze.

I don't like Bethenny. I want to be on Jules' side in this stupidity, but I can't because I think she's so dumb and boring. It's clear that she's intimidated by Bethenny and starts stumbling over her thoughts, but none of this is entertaining. Her husband is a shitbag. She's a moron who is probably too sick to be on this show.

Dorinda Meddler is right. She's been messy as fuq this season. I'm also going to call bullshit on her labeling Bethenny as the one with the good heart and Carole as mean. Both of these heifers are mean. Dorinda is so afraid of being on Bethenny's bad side that she'll say stupid shit like that.

I feel like Bethenny only reconciled with Sonja because she could do it in front of Jules and demonstrate that she, Bethenny, is nice. It was a complete power play.

I think it's been 3 years since we've seen an event at Sonja's house. I'd say it was a pretty good effort on her part, except for her swanning around her own dinner party at her own home with her handbag and her letting it slip that they use the intercom in case it's Con Ed at the door. Girl, why you so scared of Con Ed at your door unless your power is about to be turned off.

Not surprised that LuAnn sidled up to Tom when he was on a date. You can't steal a man, but you can sure show up with a 90% off coupon.

[SparkleznConfetti]

16 minutes ago, shoegal said:

Alex with a healthy dose of Kelly Bensimone (complete with constant references to her "integrity"). I still never really understood what Bethenny did to piss her off besides saying she needed a verb. Reminded me of Kelly and the Madonna comment.

As much as it pains me to admit it. I can understand why Jules gets easily flustered. I was an only child that was raised in a very sheltered environment and as a result thinking quickly on my feet has always been my achilles heel. Add that in with my introverted personality and u can see why I abstained from playing the dozens. Which is where self- preservation kicks in. Because I know, I can't run with the big dogs is the exact reason I stay behind on the porch and am not on reality tv :-) bloop!

Edited July 14, 2016 by SparkleznConfetti
Yo mama... Lol.

[charmed1]

Did I read a caption that said "Jules's Husband?" I haven't been in school for years and I'm no grammar nazi, but I remember my possessives lessons. "Jules's" can't be correct, can it?

Jules reminds me of myself in some ways. I'm very articulate when I'm angry. Crystal Pepsi clear. Normally, I'm not a talker, but when I'm pissed, I am a walking, talking, bulleted white paper on why you ain't shit. 

I thought it was funny that Bethenny claimed she never said anything about Jules to her face. That's exactly what she accused you of, fool. And if you don't care about Jules being on the bus and she's just a "ficus tree" sitting in the corner, then why the hell are you talking about her on the bus? 

Dorinda's gesticulations are insane. I use my hands to talk, but not my arms too. I thought she was going to elbow Jules in the forehead.

Edited July 14, 2016 by charmed1

[njbchlover]

7 minutes ago, tenativelyyours said:

Frankel is loud and abrasive.  But boy is she weak when all is said and done.  Last season she really did not go toe to toe with Kristin but pretended to brush her off pretentiously when all she did was play little brat games and ran away.

 

Same thing with Jules of all people.  Sure Jules is inarticulate and wavers.  But Frankel is that dog at the dog run that snaps and snarls but the minute it gets the slightest pushback shakes In the corner with pee running down a rear leg and is the o n  one to really be a weak mess.   

Frankel just can't engage where she does not feel she has a true upper hand.  Nothing but shakes and urine stream.

She certainly didn't like being called out on her nastiness, did she?  It seemed like Bethenny was close to tears during Jules' pushback, and I doubt it was due to memories from her oh-so-awful childhood.  I think she was totally caught off guard and upset that someone actually had the nerve to call her out.  

[SnarkKitty]

15 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

I can't applaud Jules' confrontation of Bethenny because Jules spent the first couple of weeks portraying herself as an incompetent nitwit and is now angry that they think she's an incompetent nitwit. If that's Jules' self deprecating humor, then it worked perfectly. Joke's on you dumbass. Additionally, the calzone thing wasn't a joke. It was fucking weird. Just say that you were loopy on pain meds that you shouldn't have mixed with booze.

I don't like Bethenny. I want to be on Jules' side in this stupidity, but I can't because I think she's so dumb and boring. It's clear that she's intimidated by Bethenny and starts stumbling over her thoughts, but none of this is entertaining. Her husband is a shitbag. She's a moron who is probably too sick to be on this show.

Dorinda Meddler is right. She's been messy as fuq this season. I'm also going to call bullshit on her labeling Bethenny as the one with the good heart and Carole as mean. Both of these heifers are mean. Dorinda is so afraid of being on Bethenny's bad side that she'll say stupid shit like that.

I feel like Bethenny only reconciled with Sonja because she could do it in front of Jules and demonstrate that she, Bethenny, is nice. It was a complete power play.

I think it's been 3 years since we've seen an event at Sonja's house. I'd say it was a pretty good effort on her part, except for her swanning around her own dinner party at her own home with her handbag and her letting it slip that they use the intercom in case it's Con Ed at the door. Girl, why you so scared of Con Ed at your door unless your power is about to be turned off.

Not surprised that LuAnn sidled up to Tom when he was on a date. You can't steal a man, but you can sure show up with a 90% off coupon.

Hahahaha! I don't even know what the hell that means, but that cracks me up.  I agree with everything here except this:

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I feel like Bethenny only reconciled with Sonja because she could do it in front of Jules and demonstrate that she, Bethenny, is nice. It was a complete power play.

Jules says something similar in her blog, but I don't think it was that at all. You can hear the slurring at that point, and I think it was as simple as Bethenny really did feel bad after eviscerating Sonja, and was sufficiently lubricated enough to drop the wall and pull a "I love you, man" at that point. There had already been a thawing when Sonja reached out about her being sick. They have been friends and co-workers for years now, and always got along well before. Even a horrible being who is responsible for every evil in the world and undeserving of life can legitimately miss someone. Sometimes you curse someone out because you're more hurt than angry, and that only happens with the people who are close enough for that to happen.

Edited July 14, 2016 by SnarkKitty