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4 minutes ago, Future Cat Lady said:

Why are these young people hanging out with this old dude?

My guess is that Mr Old Dude and his pals are attaching themselves to the young ones to attract a younger crowd into their cult.

He has deep enough pockets and is generous?

1 minute ago, galaxychaser said:

Cades hair is uneven. He needs a trim. But his face is punchable 🤣.

His belt buckle is also too big.  I've lived in the South long enough to know that the bigger the belt buckle or pickup truck, the smaller the penis. 

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My push presents after having my kids were my kids. 

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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

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That's okay. He's forgotten it a few times himself. 

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I wouldn't be able to survive an all day food crawl with Mahoney.  I haven't been back, but they do have a long list of activities going on there.  It might be a seminary activity offered to all first year MDiv students for them to get their families socializing.  Then again it could equally be something else entirely. 

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3 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

One of my favorite quotes. This seemed to be the perfect scenario to bust it out.

It's one of mine too! I, um, have used that for graffiti before. 😂

2 minutes ago, Absolom said:

I wouldn't be able to survive an all day food crawl with Mahoney.  I haven't been back, but they do have a long list of activities going on there.  It might be a seminary activity offered to all first year MDiv students for them to get their families socializing.  Then again it could equally be something else entirely. 

That's interesting! So, in person he's really hard to take? Is it because he comes off as fake or is he obnoxiously earnest and chipper? 

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Churchhoney

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11 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Does fellowship with all new members include an all day food crawl? 

It seems that some new members are more equal than others.

Thus the very long very critical WASC report that focuses on MacArthur's general behavior, apparent principles (or lack thereof) and approach to life, I guess.....Also the angry commentary around the internet about the favoritism, nepotism, bought-off board members and meanness-toward-non-favorites that JM also is said to foster among his whole crowd.

His patterns carry over from the schools to his church and vice versa, it seems, and some people I've read who attended the seminary seemed to see the church and the seminary as sort of one enterprise. Some write about having gone to leadership staff at Grace Church to seek support for stuff that was happening at the seminary and being told to go away and shut up....i.e., the same message they got from MacArthur at the seminary.

This particular piece of stupidity with Jer and Cade/Gabby is quite a commentary on the power and perceived power of social-media and television fame, seems to me.

The church has about 8,000 regularly attending members (according to the last official count I can find, from about 10 years ago) and the seminary has about 600 students. but these particular people are all over Mr. Welcome-In's instagram. And the thousands of other people who, in fact, bear the exact same relationships to Mahoney and MacArthur as these guys? Not so much.

Cade and Gabby at least have some musical talent and seem to have worked hard to make something out of that talent, at ages 23 and 19. The fawning still looks ridiculous, but you might think Mahoney's just a sucker for musicians or something. 

When you add Jer to the ass-constantly-kissed mix, though, you get the real story, I'm thinking.

Jer, at 31, is a person of pretty average talents and accomplishments. BUT he inherited from Jingle 600,000 social-media followers and a TeeVee show on its last legs but still with close to a million regular viewers. So it's ass-kissing time in the Valley. 

Jingle, of course, got the fame and followers by being dragooned as a kid onto a tv freakshow about arrogant, ignorant, stupid people with zero accomplishments and loon-crazy, idiotic abhorrent cult beliefs that encouraged them to have way more kids than they could afford or even know enough about to write personalized birthday wishes for. 

So that's where Jer's fame and followers come from. Nevertheless, the fame and followers are apparently so important that non-stop ass-kissing follows. 

And I expect Jer by now believes his ass is getting kissed because he's actually done something to deserve it. Because most of us would start to think that after a while, I imagine. Believing that when it's not true is probably not very good for your character in the long run. 

ELTA: Just got an email announcing a course for business owners and marketers on how to avoid losing money on influencer advertising. 😀

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15 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Ditto for Mahoney and Gabby&Cade. 

Wonder what the guy's deal is? Is it his special assignment from JM to make sure Jer&Jingle and Cade&Gabby attach themselves to JM's institutions for...whatever reason? So when he follows them around like a puppy he's just doing his job? 

Or does Mahoney also have some kind of addiction to reality-tv-people? He shows up with them on instagram and with that goofy smile on his face so often it's embarrassing.

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The long haired guy looks like a douchebag.  

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Churchhoney

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44 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

The long haired guy looks like a douchebag.  

Seems to be the consensus here. Yeah. 

However, Mahoney and MacArthur and Jer (and, of course, Gabby) have all seemed quite intent on making him a big part of their lives going forward for some reason. Go figure. 

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1 minute ago, Churchhoney said:

Such is the life of a determined influencer, I guess.

Pathetic and, apparently, wealthy. The Warhol (yeah, you and Jer and Andy. Perfect threesome. Right, Jinge) rings the register at $6.50. 

Someone needs to suggest she watch a few movies from The Warhol Factory!  Such a silly young woman.

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4 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Such is the life of a determined influencer, I guess.

Pathetic and, apparently, wealthy. The Warhol (yeah, you and Jer and Andy. Perfect threesome. Right, Jinge) rings the register at $6.50. 

Seeing/hearing the (non)word “legit” makes me stabby when anyone says it(yes, get off my lawn), but somehow even more so coming from a Duggar!

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19 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Seeing/hearing the (non)word “legit” makes me stabby when anyone says it(yes, get off my lawn), but somehow even more so coming from a Duggar!

Is a drink that's a "game changer" better or worse than one that's "legit"?

Something tells me there's a glossary of coffee bar influencer words out there that they're pulling from. 

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DangerousMinds

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40 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Is a drink that's a "game changer" better or worse than one that's "legit"?

Something tells me there's a glossary of coffee bar influencer words out there that they're pulling from. 

She also called something a “win” the other day and described Prop’s outfit as having “hipster vibes.” SMDH.

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36 minutes ago, Tasya said:

I'm so glad that Jinger is living a life that makes her happy. I think that if she wants to spend her well-earned money (being a Duggar kid qualifies) on fancy drinks, then more power to her.

Since Jinger's posts are veritable ads for the various fancy drink places, I think it is safe to say that she isn't spending a dime of her TV money on fancy coffee or tea.  In fact, she probably gets paid to post for these places.  To paraphrase Dire Straits, 'Money for nothin' and her drinks for free'.

I find it sorta pathetic that Jing, after less than 3 years of marriage, now has the words 'legit' and 'game changer' and 'hipster' in her vocabulary.  She really is just a sheep following her headship.

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Churchhoney

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48 minutes ago, Tasya said:

I'm so glad that Jinger is living a life that makes her happy. I think that if she wants to spend her well-earned money (being a Duggar kid qualifies) on fancy drinks, then more power to her.

If they actually have the money and if she's actually writing about spending money that she actually has to actually pay for things she actually wants, then I generally agree.

However, I don't see how somebody who already has a kid, won't be working herself, gets most of her money from a tv show that may or may not survive more seasons, and has a husband who still has two or three more years of seminary before he can get a full-time job actually has enough money to be trotting around LA buying the very priciest caffeinated drinks available. 

Unless, as I've argued before, Jer has family money that's helping them out. 

If Jer doesn't have family money -- as most people here think he doesn't - then I think they're either playing with financial fire by spending too much money on frivolous stuff when they have some years of dicey economics ahead -- and they have a child...

 Or....they're doing something a lot of influencers do and that I think is unethical -- i.e,she's getting stuff for free because she's advertising it and then using her "influence" to tell other people to buy it even though it's hella expensive, Frankly, a whole lot of the people who are most likely to feel "influenced" by Jinger probably don't have budgets that allow them to spend so much money for frivolities.

So...one of the possibilities I'm kind of okay with-- that they are just fine financially and know they'll be just fine for the years it takes him to finish school....and they're buying their own pricey drinks and pocket squares. (although I still think it's a better choice for pastors' families to refrain from trying to "influence' people to buy what they may not be able to afford.)

Two of the possibilities I' think are seriously problematic  -- that they're buying a lot of expensive frivolous stuff even though they have a child and they're not very financially stable at present because he's a student. ... Or that they're getting their expensive stuff free and then trying to "influence" people who admire them to actually buy it -- when it is quite expensive. 

I think the first of those possibilities is bad financial planning when you have a kid. And I think the second is flat-out unethical -- not in any gray area -- for people who recently have been and are soon to be again a pastor and his wife. 

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2 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Frankly, a whole lot of the people who are most likely to feel "influenced" by Jinger probably don't have budgets that allow them to spend so much money for frivolities.

Yes, and how many of them are living/visiting in that hotbed of sin and corruption, Los Angeles? I would imagine that almost all of Jinger's followers are living in the South or Midwest, seldom travel to LA and have no access to the coffee shops and restaurants Jinger is shilling for. 

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2 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

Yes, and how many of them are living/visiting in that hotbed of sin and corruption, Los Angeles? I would imagine that almost all of Jinger's followers are living in the South or Midwest, seldom travel to LA and have no access to the coffee shops and restaurants Jinger is shilling for. 

Yep. Hence the online course for business owners I got a pitch for today -- "How not to lose money on influencer marketing" ! 

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16 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

Since Jinger's posts are veritable ads for the various fancy drink places, I think it is safe to say that she isn't spending a dime of her TV money on fancy coffee or tea.  In fact, she probably gets paid to post for these places.  To paraphrase Dire Straits, 'Money for nothin' and her drinks for free'.

I find it sorta pathetic that Jing, after less than 3 years of marriage, now has the words 'legit' and 'game changer' and 'hipster' in her vocabulary.  She really is just a sheep following her headship.

I also find it quite sad and pathetic.

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1 minute ago, DangerousMinds said:

I also find it quite sad and pathetic.

I think she learned very well from her family how to go along to get along. She's a gosling imprinting on whoever the leader is. It'd be nice if she could find out more about who she actually is and not just adopt somebody else's ways. But that's a big ask for many if not most of the Duggarlings, I expect. 

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Getting a $6.50 drink for posting a picture online is about minimum wage, if it takes about a half hour from start to finish. And getting free products doesn't pay the bills.

I still think they're living off TLC money and like many young adults, they're not saving for their futures.

While I think a preacher being a SM influencer is a contradiction in beliefs, many preachers and congregants don't seem to think preachers living extravagant lifestyles is wrong. 

At least J & J are selling a tangible product and not some abstract promise. And that's if they're actually selling anything at all. I think right now they're advertising themselves and are hoping to be picked up by enough folks who will actually pay them.

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

At least J & J are selling a tangible product and not some abstract promise. And that's if they're actually selling anything at all. I think right now they're advertising themselves and are hoping to be picked up by enough folks who will actually pay them.

Yeah, I think this is right on. 

I doubt they're going to make this happen to a significant degree, though, for a few reasons.

For one thing, they're not specializing much. So when your feed is kind of all over the place in topics, you diffuse your influence too much and it doesn't have much impact -- they kind of randomly go after foodie stuff, men's fashion, and conservative-theology items, with maybe a side of baby stuff thrown in. People tend to want a feed that has a single strong personality and topic set -- to avoid having to scroll past a bunch of posts in which they have no interest.

And there's also the issue of this essentially being a Duggar-driven operation -- and a fair number of brands in the more lucrative spaces will find the Duggar brand somewhat toxic or can be convinced to do so (it's already happened). And since any Duggar feed has a ton of anti-Duggar people on it, there are already people geared up to complain. And there's no such thing as a niche publisher that has particularly deep pockets in the non-reading 21st century, so they can't depend on that. 

They can still make some money off it, obviously, because they do have the followers. But if they have any ambitions to go really big, then that's unlikely, seems to me.  They seem to be relying entirely on ad-type posts featuring product photos and sales-y text. The influencers who really do well add something akin to content marketing to that mix. They provide interest, entertainment, information and value on their chosen topic that goes way beyond just ads like these.

When you look at really big influncers' feeds, you're not just getting ad, family-photo-unrelated-to-topic, family photo, family photo, ad, ad, ad, ad, family photo the way the Vuolos are doing. Instead, you get something more like an online magazine where that stuff is interspersed with informative stuff about the topic area, photos like fashion shots or whatever that position you as a person kind of living life within that topic, and so on. Now, the Vs certainly could do that .... Jinger, at least, has the time....but will they put in all that effort? Seems unlikely to me. 

Their sheer numbers can get them some money from somewhere, no doubt, especially if they specialize a little more when it comes to topics. But if they do have any dreams of being really big-time influencers, I think it's likely to turn out more like all those businesses we're always thinking of that various Duggarlings could start and do well with....but they never do. Because aside from Jim Bob, Duggars don't seem to have career or entrepreneurship mindsets.....And going big would have to depend mainly on Jingle at the moment, since Jer has a divinity degree to finish. 

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fonfereksglen

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36 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Yeah, I think this is right on. 

I doubt they're going to make this happen to a significant degree, though, for a few reasons.

For one thing, they're not specializing much. So when your feed is kind of all over the place in topics, you diffuse your influence too much and it doesn't have much impact -- they kind of randomly go after foodie stuff, men's fashion, and conservative-theology items, with maybe a side of baby stuff thrown in. People tend to want a feed that has a single strong personality and topic set -- to avoid having to scroll past a bunch of posts in which they have no interest.

And there's also the issue of this essentially being a Duggar-driven operation -- and a fair number of brands in the more lucrative spaces will find the Duggar brand somewhat toxic or can be convinced to do so (it's already happened). And since any Duggar feed has a ton of anti-Duggar people on it, there are already people geared up to complain. And there's no such thing as a niche publisher that has particularly deep pockets in the non-reading 21st century, so they can't depend on that. 

They can still make some money off it, obviously, because they do have the followers. But if they have any ambitions to go really big, then that's unlikely, seems to me.  They seem to be relying entirely on ad-type posts featuring product photos and sales-y text. The influencers who really do well add something akin to content marketing to that mix. They provide interest, entertainment, information and value on their chosen topic that goes way beyond just ads like these.

When you look at really big influncers' feeds, you're not just getting ad, family-photo-unrelated-to-topic, family photo, family photo, ad, ad, ad, ad, family photo the way the Vuolos are doing. Instead, you get something more like an online magazine where that stuff is interspersed with informative stuff about the topic area, photos like fashion shots or whatever that position you as a person kind of living life within that topic, and so on. Now, the Vs certainly could do that .... Jinger, at least, has the time....but will they put in all that effort? Seems unlikely to me. 

Their sheer numbers can get them some money from somewhere, no doubt, especially if they specialize a little more when it comes to topics. But if they do have any dreams of being really big-time influencers, I think it's likely to turn out more like all those businesses we're always thinking of that various Duggarlings could start and do well with....but they never do. Because aside from Jim Bob, Duggars don't seem to have career or entrepreneurship mindsets.....And going big would have to depend mainly on Jingle at the moment, since Jer has a divinity degree to finish. 

Jing's lack of education and huge gaps in cultural literacy,  as seen with her choice of Warhol as her coffee du jour, make her unlikely to succeed as an influencer without Jer controlling everything.  She should stick to picking out bows and using dated catch phrases.

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