The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

[Sew Sumi]

Jessa only seems sentimental when it comes to her kids.

[flyingdi]

5 hours ago, lascuba said:

She said, "But where would I put them?" Which her mother and sisters thought was just the most awful thing to say to a man being so "romantic."

If anything, I think Jana makes a better precher's wife--well, really, my idea of a preacher's wife, because everything I know about them I learned via fiction--than Jinger. Jinger just seems so childish to me. I can't imagine her in any sort of leadership role. Of course, Jeremy doesn't want to be preacher so much as he wants some way to be famous via worshipful followers.

Honestly, that was the moment that Jessa became my favorite Duggar, because fuck that one-size-fits-all "romanticism" that Ben was peddling.

This and Jesssa telling her mom, "Ben said I love you!"

Michelle-"What did you say?"

Jessa-"I said Thank you."

Michelle-"Oh, Jessa!"

 

I loved that whole conversation.  Ben is more easily emotional than Jessa, and for now, I think that fascinates her.

[flyingdi]

18 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

Believe me, I get that!  When I was in grade school, my mother made me keep my hair short, and I did hate it.  Anyone here remember Pixie Haircuts?  Ugh.

When I was finally in junior high school, I got to let it grow.  And grow, it did, right up until my late 20's.  I got my waist length hair cut to shoulder length, and thus it's been ever since!  I swear I'll never go back to short hair, just because I think medium length works for me, even though now I'm old.  It's curly, and I love that too, but didn't always!  Jinjer is young and cute, no matter what she does hair-wise and fashion-wise.  Her hero worship of Jeremeeeee is a bit off-putting, but like I've said before, she is probably so ever grateful to get away from Boob and Ma Kettle, I can't blame her at all.  Go Jinjer, even if you never cut that hair.

Ah Pixie haircuts!  My dad thought everyone, male and female, should have short hair.  As in a trim every 6 weeks short.  I think he had a phobia about the "dirty dead stuff growing out of people's heads.". I think he would run screaming from the Duggar household!

[sometimesy]

Pigtails hunh Jinge. Is having a childlike wife Jeremy's kink? 

[floridamom]

I had the dreaded pixie hair cut every summer beginning in 1964-1969.  We also got one pair of white sandals and one pair of PF Flyer sneakers for the summer on the last day of school I hated that short haircut and it made me look worse than I looked already. Once I was 12, I let my hair grow half way down my back.

[ariel]

1 hour ago, floridamom said:

I had the dreaded pixie hair cut every summer beginning in 1964-1969.  We also got one pair of white sandals and one pair of PF Flyer sneakers for the summer on the last day of school I hated that short haircut and it made me look worse than I looked already. Once I was 12, I let my hair grow half way down my back.

We must be twins.  I had the same crappy experiences at the same time.  The only difference was that I was 13 when my parents allowed me to grow my hair long.

Edited November 1, 2017 by ariel

[floridamom]

ariel: I grew up at that time in Booklyn, NY, then moved to Ft. Lauderdale, FL...I didn't care that it was hot with my longer hair...I wanted to look like Marcia Brady and the other non-Italian girls in school that were in my class. I never achieved that, sadly.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I think we should lay off on Jinjer's hair. She wears pants. She reads (well, at least she reads more than Wisdom Booklets). She isn't knocked up yet. She lives far away from JB's compound. Long hair is the one physical aspect about herself from her pre-Jeremy life she hangs on to strongly, it seems.  Give her time. Her hair will be shorter when she's ready. She still has more deprogramming to do....hair may be one of the last Gothardite/Fundamentalist attributes she lets go of. 

[Nysha]

On 11/1/2017 at 5:27 AM, lascuba said:

If anything, I think Jana makes a better precher's wife--well, really, my idea of a preacher's wife, because everything I know about them I learned via fiction--than Jinger. Jinger just seems so childish to me. I can't imagine her in any sort of leadership role.

I think Jinger is in a much better position to be a preacher's wife than Jana. Jeremy's congregation will make allowances for her immaturity, lack of social skills, and even her lack of basic knowledge from being horribly homeschooled because of her age. The fact that she looks even younger than she really is, is going to give her even more grace. If Jeremy had married Jana, she would be expected to be a preacher's wife from day 1 because she's older, yet her social skills and basic knowledge is just as lacking as Jinger's skills.

[lascuba]

3 hours ago, Nysha said:

I think Jinger is in a much better position to be a preacher's wife than Jana. Jeremy's congregation will make allowances for her immaturity, lack of social skills, and even her lack of basic knowledge from being horribly homeschooled because of her age. The fact that she looks even younger than she really is, is going to give her even more grace. If Jeremy had married Jana, she would be expected to be a preacher's wife from day 1 because she's older, yet her social skills and basic knowledge is just as lacking as Jinger's skills.

I don't think the average person in Jeremy's congregation would have the first clue about how horrible her upbringing and education were. It's unlikely many of them watched the show and Jinger and Jeremy certainly aren't going to inform people that she has no education, assuming Jinger even knows how uneducated she is.  To them, she's just a bizarrely childish adult married to a man who looks and acts a hell of a lot older. Weird and eccentric at best, super creepy at worst. 

[louannems]

3 hours ago, Nysha said:

I think Jinger is in a much better position to be a preacher's wife than Jana. Jeremy's congregation will make allowances for her immaturity, lack of social skills, and even her lack of basic knowledge from being horribly homeschooled because of her age. The fact that she looks even younger than she really is, is going to give her even more grace. If Jeremy had married Jana, she would be expected to be a preacher's wife from day 1 because she's older, yet her social skills and basic knowledge is just as lacking as Jinger's skills.

My sister is married to a preacher (2nd preacher) of a huge mega church.  He is also an author and travels all over the world giving talks based on his books.

My sister has never had to work a single day of her life.  She has a bachelor's degree and she did homeschool her 3 kids til high school.  They live in a 4,ooo sf house that cost over a million (in Houston where homes cost way less than Seattle).

My sister married at age 20 and is extremely immature, even now.  She has never had to do much at all as a pastor's wife since the church has a huge staff.

[GeeGolly]

It doesn't seem Jeremy spends a lot of time pastoring, so I'm guessing Jinger's pastor's wife duties are between slim and none, not counting bringing Jeremy coffee while he is reading his BOOKS.

[drafan]

On 11/1/2017 at 0:45 PM, Sew Sumi said:

Jessa only seems sentimental when it comes to her kids.

I'm not even sure about that. I think everything we see is a show for the cameras (TLC and Instagram posts).

Oops! This is the Babes' thread. Did we know that? I like Jinge's heeled boots. She needs to cut her hair, but most 20-somethings have length just like hers....can't see her cutting it like her MIL's.

[bigskygirl]

On ‎10‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 7:00 PM, ariel said:

Maybe he has spent some time in her closet.

There is a comment I want to make, but I will keep it to myself.

[Marigold]

I wonder if JereME is compensating something with his Big Books?  ;)

[ariel]

11 minutes ago, Marigold said:

I wonder if JereME is compensating something with his Big Books?  ;)

Unlike a more "worldly woman"  poor Jinger wouldn't know.  Maybe that's why he chose her. 

[Marigold]

2 minutes ago, ariel said:

Unlike a more "worldly woman"  poor Jinger wouldn't know.  Maybe that's why he chose her. 

Oh yes!  JereMe likes Jinger very innocent and childlike. 

He does encourage her but I think he gets off on being her teacher . He loves being the "big man" with the "big books"  and showing Jinger the world! 

[Love2dance]

1 minute ago, Marigold said:

Oh yes!  JereMe likes Jinger very innocent and childlike. 

He does encourage her but I think he gets off on being her teacher . He loves being the "big man" with the "big books"  and showing Jinger the world! 

True. But isn’t that exactly what some of us wished would happen....a young(ish) man would come and sweep Jinger off her feet, take her away from the Duggar compound, and show her the world? If he enjoys that, even better.

[Marigold]

Jeremy just seems to insincere about it.  He does it because he gets off on it.

I hope everyone finds a partner who loves them and shows them new and fun aspects of life! No problem there.

Jeremy?  I think he loooves being the master .  He enjoys that teacher-student relationship (not the underage kind, just to clarify!).   I guess it is better than some of the other creeps they could've gotten stuck with but it just seems like Jeremy is a tour guide.  I wanted Jinger to develop as a woman...not be dependent on a man and be so grateful to him all the time.  Michelle knows her daughter...she is a follower and I suspect that whatever jeremy likes, she will gladly do. 

Plus, Jeremy is a try hard, another annoying thing about him.

[floridamom]

Perhaps the 'meek' wife, Jinger, is great now, but after some years, I think it will weigh on Jeremy to have a child-wife who can't handle anything by herself. Jer will age and he'll tire of having to 'figure everything out' himself for the two of them in the future.  It happened to me...I had a child-like husband who left everything up to me. I felt the weight of that more and more every year that I was aging. Hence, I have a pro-active husband now who is a grown up himself and can handle it for me and/or with me.

[Churchhoney]

4 hours ago, floridamom said:

Perhaps the 'meek' wife, Jinger, is great now, but after some years, I think it will weigh on Jeremy to have a child-wife who can't handle anything by herself. Jer will age and he'll tire of having to 'figure everything out' himself for the two of them in the future.  It happened to me...I had a child-like husband who left everything up to me. I felt the weight of that more and more every year that I was aging. Hence, I have a pro-active husband now who is a grown up himself and can handle it for me and/or with me.

I'm hoping that Jingle eventually rises to the challenge of emerging from childhood and clingerdom. It's hard for me to believe that none of the Duggarlings has any true grit in them. Or at least I really don't want to believe it. 

[BitterApple]

One thing about Jinger is I don't think she's helpless like Jill nor do I think she's afraid to cut the cord like Jessa. Even though I'm on the fence about Jeremy, I can't help but acknowledge Jinger looks happy and confident in every picture I've seen of her since getting married. She comes home for weddings and such, but she doesn't seem desperate for her family the way Jill did in Danger America. Like the rest of you, I'm a bit skeeved out by the master/puppet dynamic, but I think Jinger is arguably better off now than she would be if she was still marinating at the TTH with Jana.

[Arwen Evenstar]

38 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I'm a bit skeeved out by the master/puppet dynamic,

OK, now Metallica’s Master of Puppets is playing in my head.  Of course, being a headbanger isn’t the same without my mane of long hair!

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

One thing about Jinger is I don't think she's helpless like Jill nor do I think she's afraid to cut the cord like Jessa. Even though I'm on the fence about Jeremy, I can't help but acknowledge Jinger looks happy and confident in every picture I've seen of her since getting married. She comes home for weddings and such, but she doesn't seem desperate for her family the way Jill did in Danger America. Like the rest of you, I'm a bit skeeved out by the master/puppet dynamic, but I think Jinger is arguably better off now than she would be if she was still marinating at the TTH with Jana.

I agree.

Of course, I think that, in the long run, it will be better for Jill to have been married and gone through what she has than it would be for her to have stayed at the TTH. They have to see something different in order to have the slightest chance to get out their stupors, it seems. And being JB and M's perpetual slaves won't do that for anybody. 

I personally don't think Jingle misses her family and her home one tiny bit. And rightly so, in my opinion. 

And I can't stand Jeremy. But is he way better for Jingle than her parents, especially because he lives elsewhere? Absolutely. 

JB and M are highly toxic to everybody who gets near them, as far as I can see. 

[drafan]

12 hours ago, floridamom said:

Perhaps the 'meek' wife, Jinger, is great now, but after some years, I think it will weigh on Jeremy to have a child-wife who can't handle anything by herself.

Not to defend any of them, since I think they're all nuts, but I get the feeling that all the Duggs use the word "meek" to mean more like "humble". "Meek" is an easier spelling word at  the SOTDRT.

[DangerousMinds]

And yet none of them are humble.

[Adeejay]

22 hours ago, Love2dance said:

True. But isn’t that exactly what some of us wished would happen....a young(ish) man would come and sweep Jinger off her feet, take her away from the Duggar compound, and show her the world? If he enjoys that, even better.

For some, the very notion that Jinger and Jeremy might actually be happy is sacrilegious, so, perish the thought. 

Edited November 5, 2017 by Adeejay

[kalamac]

Maybe things will change, but for now, Jinger seems genuinely happy. Her smiles don't look stretched and forced like they did when she was back at the homestead.

[Temperance]

8 hours ago, drafan said:

Not to defend any of them, since I think they're all nuts, but I get the feeling that all the Duggs use the word "meek" to mean more like "humble". "Meek" is an easier spelling word at  the SOTDRT.

I think they use meek to mean "meek" or "humble" or "sweet" or "kind" or "polite" or "neat" or "cool" or "nice" or "great" or "good" etc.  It's a catchphrase they use to describe things they like.  Informal slang. 

Edited November 5, 2017 by Temperance

[Arwen Evenstar]

They also like meek people because meek people have ‘servant’s hearts”, as in slavish devotion to or groveling to do shit for lazy ass MeChelle.  They also leave love offerings /grift cards, etc.

[GeeGolly]

4 hours ago, Temperance said:

I think they use meek to mean "meek" or "humble" or "sweet" or "kind" or "polite" or "neat" or "cool" or "nice" or "great" or "good" etc.  It's a catchphrase they use to describe things they like.  Informal slang. 

I'm guessing meek is on the approved Fundy vocabulary list. Josie must have finally reached the Ms on the list, because meek appears to be trending with them now.

[Churchhoney]

12 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

And yet none of them are humble.

Well, they are in the Uriah Heep sense.  ;  ) 

 

 

Man, these deep-fried Twinkies are meek! 

This is the meekest big fat book about Calvinism that I've ever photographed and not read! 

Edited November 5, 2017 by Churchhoney

[beckie]

Isn't today their first anniversary?

[bigskygirl]

1 hour ago, beckie said:

Isn't today their first anniversary?

I will try my best to pretend I did not see this post. No offense @beckie

[Valerie]

A year without Jinger getting knocked up – they get a big gold star for that.

[Jynnan tonnix]

31 minutes ago, Valerie said:

A year without Jinger getting knocked up – they get a big gold star for that.

Of course, just because it's not been announced doesn't mean she actually made it to a year. But, in any event, even if she were to be pregnant they have still had a nice year to get to know each other and at least 8 months or so to go before a hypothetical baby comes along. 

[dargosmydaddy]

Yeah, I'm not going to congratulate her for a year without pregnancy until she's still visibly not pregnant in January or February. But I will give her a hearty congratulations for being the first Duggar sister/ sister-in-law to make it so long without reproducing. Go Jinger!

[Sew Sumi]

I'm surprised that there has been radio silence on all the Duggars' SM accounts. 

[SMama]

Maybe Jinger isn’t pregnant and the Duggars are at a lost on how to deal with this aberration. The first anniversary congratulations template includes mention of the little one in utero. They are just stumped.

Edited November 5, 2017 by SMama

[Albanyguy]

5 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I'm surprised that there has been radio silence on all the Duggars' SM accounts. 

I wouldn't be surprised if this was deliberate, a passive-aggressive way to "punish" Jinger and Jeremy for moving so far out from under Jim Bob and Michelle's umbrella. They must feel threatened by Jinger's newfound "independence" and Jeremy's influence over her. Despite all the talk about leaving and cleaving, the Duggars are used to sons-in-law who knuckle under and kowtow to them. The idea that the Vuolos could put off immediately having a baby, possibly by using birth control (gasp!), must be giving them fits. And the Seewalds and Dillards must resent the fact that Jeremy and Jinger can flout Mama and Daddy's authority, live their own lives and do exactly as they please while STILL appearing on Counting On and collecting TLC paychecks. 

[Sew Sumi]

#1 from Jinger

[lascuba]

36 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this was deliberate, a passive-aggressive way to "punish" Jinger and Jeremy for moving so far out from under Jim Bob and Michelle's umbrella. They must feel threatened by Jinger's newfound "independence" and Jeremy's influence over her. Despite all the talk about leaving and cleaving, the Duggars are used to sons-in-law who knuckle under and kowtow to them. The idea that the Vuolos could put off immediately having a baby, possibly by using birth control (gasp!), must be giving them fits. And the Seewalds and Dillards must resent the fact that Jeremy and Jinger can flout Mama and Daddy's authority, live their own lives and do exactly as they please while STILL appearing on Counting On and collecting TLC paychecks. 

That's something I think about a lot, the fact that the Duggar kids have a hell of a lot of power over their parents. Because there's no reason that every one of them couldn't do whatever they wanted in terms of who to marry, what job--and whether to even have one--to have, and how soon  and how many kids to have. JB isn't going to disown his children over something that's perfectly normal to the vast majority of people--he can't risk what that type of publicity would do to his brand. All any of the kids would have to do is threaten him with exposure if he, say, refuses to let one of them marry who they want. While I don't think Jinger has done that, I think JB is very aware of this fact, so when emotional manipulation doesn't work, there's nothing else he can do. He can be passive aggressive and encourage his other kids to do the same, but he can't forbid contact. 

It speak volumes about just how emotionally damaged and/or how deep is their religious fanaticism that more of the kids haven't openly flouted JB and Michelle's edicts. 

[ginger90]

It seems as if when there is a married couple involved, the rest wait for one of them to post first. I always hope to be spared a video from Michelle and Jim Bob.

[GeeGolly]

Again, not Duggar speak. Jeremy must have written that.

[Temperance]

57 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this was deliberate, a passive-aggressive way to "punish" Jinger and Jeremy for moving so far out from under Jim Bob and Michelle's umbrella. They must feel threatened by Jinger's newfound "independence" and Jeremy's influence over her. Despite all the talk about leaving and cleaving, the Duggars are used to sons-in-law who knuckle under and kowtow to them. The idea that the Vuolos could put off immediately having a baby, possibly by using birth control (gasp!), must be giving them fits. And the Seewalds and Dillards must resent the fact that Jeremy and Jinger can flout Mama and Daddy's authority, live their own lives and do exactly as they please while STILL appearing on Counting On and collecting TLC paychecks. 

There are so many events. Did they post anything for Jessa's birthday or was that just Jessa (a tribute to Michelle) and Jinger?

[dargosmydaddy]

Nah, I think Jeremy has broken Jinger of Duggar-speak, to a certain extent. And I would hope a college grad like Jer would know to use ARE with a compound subject (but maybe I'm giving him too much credit).

Bringing my hypothetical over from the Joy thread, if the Duggar parents knew for sure that a) Joy was pregnant before marriage, and b) Jinger was using birth control, who do you think they'd be more upset with? (I sadly think I know the answer...)

[Sew Sumi]

21 minutes ago, Temperance said:

There are so many events. Did they post anything for Jessa's birthday or was that just Jessa (a tribute to Michelle) and Jinger?

Yes, DFO posted a birthday tribute for Jessa, naming her three times in the space of one paragraph. Totally written by Mechelle; it was a painful read.

[ginger90]

5 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yes, DFO posted a birthday tribute for Jessa, naming her three times in the space of one paragraph. Totally written by Mechelle; it was a painful read.

And Jessa is spunky, and eloquent !!

[Temperance]

17 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yes, DFO posted a birthday tribute for Jessa, naming her three times in the space of one paragraph. Totally written by Mechelle; it was a painful read.

I don't read DFO so I didn't see it.

[Sew Sumi]

I don't read it either. I just went there to check for a JinJer tribute post and saw the Jessa one.

eta: Just checked again, and they have a Spurgeon post up, but still nothing about JinJer.

Edited November 5, 2017 by Sew Sumi