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Did Uncle Bad Touch really call a one year old a "whiny bitch"? 

That lake looks like some place Uncle Dave would dump Jenelle's body when the inevitable blow up between them happens and he snaps. 

I love how Jenelle tried to emotionally manipulate Jace and he basically told her that he likes her house because he gets to play COD.

What is going on with Javi's mother and discipline because Lincoln is getting out of control?

Leah looks like a porn star at the tail end of her career.

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Am I the only one terrified that we'll see a story soon about Kaiser being hospitalized or worse? Uncle Bad Touch is extra scary. We all know he's eventually going to beat the crap out of Janelle if he hasn't already, but he's the only man ever featured on the show I feel like is a real danger to the kids. 

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Javi wants a third kid because he thinks it'll make Kail settle her ass down.  Maybe she won't run off to see the Pinterest house girl so much.  Maybe she'll droop out of school and then he won't have to worry so much about what she's up to.  Even if it's a fake storyline I'm glad Kail told him to go screw.  At least she's smart enough to not bring more kids into bullshit.

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Wow, David sitting there bitching at Jace and Kaiser makes me sick! He has NO business yelling at Jace to stop screaming. And, of course, David is allowed to do whatever all day. No way that clown has a fucking job. Nether of them have any patience for Kaiser. Can't even "handle" her own kid.

Also. I'm super jealous of the ice cream parlors these girls go to. Chelsea has gone to one and Leah went today. We don't have any open bar/serve yourself shops here. Sounds SO good right now.

 

David, it's none of your fucking business why Barbara doesn't want to meet you. You have Jace, so YOU guys can take him back. Guarantee you if Barb had him and she wanted them to meet her halfway, they'd so NO!

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Poor Kaiser and Jace. Jenelle and David are both absolutely disgusting.

It's funny listening to Leah and family talk up 50/50 custody after years of that don't make no sense. Leah looked awful. What was up with her BBQ outfit lol.

Kail and Javi were never going to last. Poor Isaac waiting for Javi to come home.

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Jenelle is just such a mentally ill individual. She fully buys into her own bullshit and delusion. It's sad and scary. Poor kids.

Chelsea whatever.

Kail...there's clearly a shitton more going on than we know about. I think Javi sounded cold, but this is about a LOT more than babies. I do think Kail is really saying, "I don't want more kids WITH YOU." I feel so sorry for poor Isaac. 

Leah, you don't get to dictate how Jeremy spends his time with his kid. It sucks, maybe, but it's just reality. She may be over drama with Miranda, but she's going hard with this new chick. Also, while she looks too thin, I'll say that she doesn't look cracked out. It makes sense that she was/is dating a personal trainer, but she needs to increase her caloric intake as she's looking 35 instead of 25. Her arms looked good, though. Nice little tone.

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I agree that Javi and Kail should get a divorce.  Karl doesn't want any more kids and she wants to focus on her broadcasting "career".  Convenient timing on that divorce though.  How is Kailyn going to be a big time TV correspondent when Javi's military career may force them to relocate at some point.  She pushed Javi into the Air Force and now when things aren't convenient for her .....  Who didn't see that coming?

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6 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Javi wants a third kid because he thinks it'll make Kail settle her ass down.  Maybe she won't run off to see the Pinterest house girl so much.  Maybe she'll droop out of school and then he won't have to worry so much about what she's up to.  Even if it's a fake storyline I'm glad Kail told him to go screw.  At least she's smart enough to not bring more kids into bullshit.

Kail almost did tho right ? Wasn't there a miscarriage ? A miscarriage is very sad but she was spared being trapped with jealous immature Javi ( she's no prize either but hope she can move on and find happiness if that's possible for her) 

poor isaac - that little sweetheart is going to be so sad about javi ?

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So J& K are getting divorce over future kids? What if one of them was unable physically to have more kids? They'd break up over that too? Not buying it.

So how did Jace get home? Hope Barbara didn't drive after her big glass of wine (no shade, I love Barb).

Leah: don't care. Chelsea: too boring

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MTV  really needs to cancel this show. These idiots need to not be on camera anymore because those poor kids are being subjected to too many adult conversations they shouldn't hear.  Poor Jace is always between Janelle, Barb and now Uncle Dave who may or may not be around much longer. Jenelle is such an attention ho maybe if a camera wasn't in her face she would let up on her imaginary illnesses, her freak outs and stop trying to make people believe she's a good mother. Maybe she'd leave Jace alone and leave him with Barb. Poor Roll, I don't know who he's better off with. Nathan doesn't seem to be doing anything to see him. Unless MTV hasn't been showing it. What happened with his girlfriends charges against Jenelle? 

I think it's good Kail and Javi are getting divorced. I feel bad for Isaac, he really loves Javi, I hope he'll stay in his life.

I'm happy for Chelsea, Cole and Aubree. They'll be a cute family. 

Jeremy has been wanting Leah back? Since when?  

So now we'll have two episodes of reunion shows with Dr. Drew which is like comedic relief to me. He'll ask stupid, mundane questions and treat everyone with kid gloves. I'd love to see someone like Nancy Grace do these shows. Those girls wouldn't know what hit them! 

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I don't think she would ever admit it on camera, but i think kail is trying to get herself into jo's grungy sweatpants. She's been hanging around jo and vee so much and being so uncharacteristically happy-go-lucky. It wouldn't surprise me if jo, one day, falls for her manipulative ways and is then trying to make it up to vee.

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Is uncle Dave still on the scene in real life? I think it's a given that he's already gotten physical with Jace and Kaiser and it will continue until Jace goes home bruised to Babs (if she physically disciplines him as well he may not even report back on when Uncle Bad Touch gives him the odd smack or two - so it won't be an issue until it goes "too far". And with poor Kaiser it will continue until he's in an actual day care or school setting where reporting is required. It seems right now most of his child care is done by a bunch of randoms and don't doubt for a second that they are people who wouldn't report it even if they saw it.

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JC, Leah eat a sandwich. Jenelle sucks and I love the sounding like she was crying then turns around with no tears and dead eyes. Why does Barb always have to come get Jace and drop him off. She fucking works and those two don't do shit all day. And Jenelle should not have had that conversation on speaker with Barb, she is trying to turn Jace against Barb and she might, but when he gets older he will see how Barbara didn't take him away, Jenelle gave him away.

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2 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I don't blame Barb for not wanting to pick Jace up at Jenelle's. The last time she did Jenelle was locked in her bedroom and Uncle Dave called the police on Barb. 

And she seems to be the one making the drive. all. the. time.

If Janelle wants to have him, she needs to come pick him up 

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5 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I don't blame Barb for not wanting to pick Jace up at Jenelle's. The last time she did Jenelle was locked in her bedroom and Uncle Dave called the police on Barb. 

I wonder if that's what Barb was referring to when she said, "that's not what we agreed on" or something to that effect." I'm wondering if after that debacle Barb may have tried to make bringing Jace home (so she didn't have to set foot in Janelle's house for pick-up) a pre-condition. But maybe it was just a time/convenience factor on this one occasion.

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Oooh, this bullshit Face-Timing. So, last week Javi was complaining Kail doesn't ask him how he's doing. Why is he so bothered when they were already broken up? And now this bollocks about their marriage. Fuck off already! 

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I hope Jenelle loses custody of Kaiser. I was so nervous when they were angry at the *baby* for crying, and then taking them all out in that little boat. 

The filming timeline has really confused me. Leah was high as hell at the start of the season, but now she looks OK (Except for the dinner with Jeremy) and has been out of rehab for a year. Vee gave birth a few episodes back, but the baby looked older than a newborn. 

I wish it hadn't taken me all season to realize to mute Chelsea's stupid voice! 

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I hope someone personally involved makes a call to child protective services on creepy Dave for suspected child abuse.  If he was able to show such contempt and irritation at Jace and Kaisers normal child behaviors, imagine what he's like in private?  Calling a baby boy a "whiny bitch" and tellin a six year old boy that he screams like a girl is abusive enough and that was in front of cameras!

 Jennelle  has no emotional connection to either child.  Currently Jennelle has no legal rights to Jace and all Barbara would have to do is call the police, show them the Guardianship documents and tell that that Jenelle refuses to bring the child home.

And Jennelle needs to stop asking Barb why she doesn't return Jace to her.  Jenelle does not need Barbs permission to ask the court to vacate the Guardianship and return Jace to her.  of course Jenelle knows that the court will appoint a GAL to investigate and give their opinion on what's best for Jace.  Jace would be appointed a lawyer to represent his best interests.  iF Jenelle really thinks she's doing fine and really wants Jace back, no one is stopping her from filling out the simple court forms and filing them with the court.  She's a lying piece of shit.

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4 minutes ago, missy jo said:

I hope Jenelle loses custody of Kaiser. I was so nervous when they were angry at the *baby* for crying, and then taking them all out in that little boat. 

The filming timeline has really confused me. Leah was high as hell at the start of the season, but now she looks OK (Except for the dinner with Jeremy) and has been out of rehab for a year. Vee gave birth a few episodes back, but the baby looked older than a newborn. 

I wish it hadn't taken me all season to realize to mute Chelsea's stupid voice! 

If they really are filming one week a month, it really works out just right. 

 

If they started the season at the beginning of the school year that is August/September. The daddy/daughter dance was feb 12 with Adumbs weight lifting thing on Feb 13.

This week, Janelles spring break week was the 2nd week of March. (I think) Leah had those pics taking around the same time.  

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1 hour ago, woodscommaelle said:

Thoughts at the four minute mark: I hope Jenelle and Dave die in a fire.

If I could like this 200 times, I would. 

Jenelle is basically falling apart so she's half dead already with her SelfishEvilBitch Syndrome. 

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28 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

MTV  really needs to cancel this show. These idiots need to not be on camera anymore because those poor kids are being subjected to too many adult conversations they shouldn't hear.  Poor Jace is always between Janelle, Barb and now Uncle Dave who may or may not be around much longer. Jenelle is such an attention ho maybe if a camera wasn't in her face she would let up on her imaginary illnesses, her freak outs and stop trying to make people believe she's a good mother. Maybe she'd leave Jace alone and leave him with Barb. Poor Roll, I don't know who he's better off with. Nathan doesn't seem to be doing anything to see him. Unless MTV hasn't been showing it. What happened with his girlfriends charges against Jenelle? 

I think it's good Kail and Javi are getting divorced. I feel bad for Isaac, he really loves Javi, I hope he'll stay in his life.

I'm happy for Chelsea, Cole and Aubree. They'll be a cute family. 

Jeremy has been wanting Leah back? Since when?  

So now we'll have two episodes of reunion shows with Dr. Drew which is like comedic relief to me. He'll ask stupid, mundane questions and treat everyone with kid gloves. I'd love to see someone like Nancy Grace do these shows. Those girls wouldn't know what hit them! 

Yes, thank you. I thought i'd misheard Leah when she said Jeremy had wanted her back. When did that happen or is that a drug induced delusion on Leah's part?

I really, really despise Jennelle!

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26 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

 

Oh my god the shit Leah feeds her kids is repulsive. Raw hot dogs? Sugar packets? Cake frosting! If the cameras weren't there, I'm sure she would've fed that one that fell on the floor to one of them.

Eh, I gave Leah a break on the hot dogs. They technically can be eaten straight out of the package, it's really just not as tasty. My brother has been known to eat a cold hot dog or two for breakfast. It's gross, I know. But yeah, I totally agree that the girlses diet is abysmal!

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Dr Derp, "I feel like the D word is on the tip of your tongue." Glad I looked up and saw he wasn't talking to Leah. Well, it could have been any of them, really. 

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32 minutes ago, truelovekiss said:

They promised Isaac over and over that Javi was coming back and they'd be together again. He was relying on that. If Javi loved Isaac enough to get his face tattooed on himself, then I think he can spare an hour to talk to his stepson.

You're so right, yet I'm not shocked at Javi's behavior. I remember a previous season when Javi had his panties in a bunch because Kail got a text from some guy before going to a concert with friends, and in return Javi refused to take Isaac to Jo's as he had agreed to do. He said some shit about Isaac not being his responsibility. He went cold so fast when shit got messy.

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"One second he's with a bunch of girls and the next he's trying to get with me" Okay lol pause with your revisionist history Leah, Jeremy couldn't get away from your tragic ass fast enough. 

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1 hour ago, Madison Bumgarner said:

Babs should have called the cops when they refused to bring him home. Jenelle he has no custodial rights when it comes to him. I hope Babs follows through and doesn't let Jace see Jenelle for awhile. And way to scream at Babs when Jace is a foot away from you, you stupid bitch.

According the the tweet Janelle posted on, June 3, I think, it seems Babs gave in, sadly.  

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So much wrong in this episode. Starting with Leah. She mentions on the phone to her sister (?) that Jeremy is with a lot of girls and then he wants her back and then he's back to Brooke? Pump the brakes. When has Jeremy wanted you back, Leah? If anything, he's been the opposite of Corey. He's made it blatantly clear that he does not want anything to do with her. Also, getting upset because his mom was taking care of Adderall while he went to go pick up his girlfriend's kid? I can't with her. What about when her sister was watching the girlsies for reasons never explained? I guess it's only okay when she does it. I was also disgusted when she gave Adderall the raw hot dog. Corey and Jeremy should both be worried about all the girls' diets. She feeds them nothing but processed and prepackaged shit. I have no doubt that Corey may do that, too, but I'd bet good money that they get some home cooked meals. If anything, Leah has shown some growth in that she doesn't look completely drugged out in every scene now. That still doesn't mean she should have any custody of her children. She has to learn to take care of herself before caring for little ones. I almost laughed out loud when Leah's brother-in-law mentioned that custody should have been 50-50 since the beginning. You mean like when Corey was asking for it years ago? What I can't stand about Leah is that she doesn't accept responsibility for the things she does wrong, but she's quick to point the finger at others.

Jenelle is the biggest piece of shit. Stable is living in a home for six months? Barbara has been the most stable thing in Jace's entire life. She gives him a safe home, takes him to school. keeps him dressed, and fed. You should be thanking her every fucking day of your pathetic life that she has taken him in as her own son. I want to cry with the way Jenelle talks to her, degrading her for working at Walmart. She was an honest to goodness job and loves Jace to pieces. I hope MTV is paying her well so she can retire comfortably and save money for Jace's future. Jenelle is screaming at Barb to give her a reason why she can't have Jace back. Barbara reasonably tells her that she takes all these trips and is never home. Jenelle says they're for medical reasons and when Barbara sarcastically says that spring break was for medical reasons, Jenelle yells at her that it's none of her business. Guess what, Jenelle? It is her business. If you had primary custody of Jace, all these trips would stop, like being in LA for Farrah's birthday party. You'd have to figure out where Jace would stay and there's no doubt you'd want to dump him back at Barb's. If she wanted custody of Jace, she'd have pursued it by now. So long as the cameras are around, she'll keep pushing these empty threats just like resident POS, Nathan and Adam.

Not much to say about Kail and Javi, except that I kind of understand where Javi's coming from. He has every right to feel the way he does. He went into this marriage with both himself and Kail agreeing that they wanted more children. I can see why he'd be thrown for a loop when she says that's not likely going to happen. With that being said, it doesn't excuse the way he went about it. He was immature and so disconnected with that implied ultimatum. It's fucked up to throw away the marriage and his role in Issac's life. These games he's playing and being spiteful don't just affect Kail, Lincoln and Issac are going to be hurt in the process, too. All these people are so goddamn selfish. They rush into marriage and then head for divorce without a second thought. It's the kids that always suffer.

Glad Chelsea's got her happy life. It's no surprise that she's the most well-adjusted, considering she has the best support system out of all the girls. She was also smart not to get pregnant again. I know she's planning to have kids right after marrying Cole, but after quickly getting engaged, it seems like they're taking it slow. I could see them going the distance. I also had to laugh at that quick scene where they're going to dinner and Cole's complaining about it being so busy at a restaurant on a Saturday evening. They appear to be a good match. And yes, her baby voice is still annoying, but it's a small blip on her radar.

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Damn. What a joy it would have been to have Jenelle and Dave fall into the water and drown as Jace and Kaiser stare with that same dead eye look that Jenelle does so well. *sigh*

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1 hour ago, charmed1 said:

Poor Jace. I say that every time, but that poor little boy. Jenelle allows her raggedy piece of shit man to talk to Jace any kind of way. That's the second time we've seen him say something slick to him. He's testing his boundaries to see just how far she'll let him go. I'm afraid for Jace. And once again, they've proven Jace was telling the truth about how they complain about him. They can't drive Jace back to his own home, but they can drop that moron's kid off at her house? GTFOH.  Poor baby said, "I can just stay here." He tries to keep the peace. Nicki Minaj should've saved all her social media scolding for Jenelle. Forget Farrah. Farrah is June Cleaver compared to Jenelle.

I think I finally figured the difference between Jenelle and Farrah. Both horrific people. Farrah thinks the sun shines out of her precious snowflake's ass. She's always dumping her daughter on her parents and her neighbour. Yet, Farrah idolizes Sophia. Jenelle gives no fucks. She cares about Jace purely because Barbara has him, that's the only reason why. To hurt Barbara.  Someone harshly disciplines Jace? Jenelle doesn't mind.

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Oh Leah, really likes to rewrite history. But..whatever. It's all the same, now it's just Jeremy and the new girlfriend who cause problems, not Leah.

I can't with Janelle. She's the worst. I can't wait to see how Panda spins this season into her favor next week. Barb is the best though "spring break is medical reasons?"

I felt for Kail, actually. This season, she kind of grew on me. Javi is kind of the worst, though. I think the recap was dead on with why he wants Kail to have another baby. It was nice to see Kail with Vee and Joe and the kids. I do feel bad for Issac and Lincoln who will be hurt by Javi and Kail's breakup, but Kail is kind of right in her reasons for wanting to break up. If they are so unhappy together, and if Javi just wants a baby to keep Kail which I kind of think he does, then no, this is not healthy for anybody.

I'm glad for Chelsea scenes. She's happy and it's nice to see a happy functioning mom out of these shows. I'm also including TM 1 as well. As sometimes I watch and I'm not sure if anyone is happy there. Maci does alright but even so I don't think she gets much help from her current partner and here, it seems like at least Cole is more than willing to step in.

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Why was Leah serving the girlseses raw ass s'mores? Chocolate wasn't even damn melted. Savage.

And the marshmallows weren't toasted. Those s'mores were a food hate crime.

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5 hours ago, Miss Chevious said:

I know, I saw that and thought surely she's not going to give her child an ice cold hot dog right out of the refrigerator. But she did. I guess by now nothing she does should surprise me.

Several people in my husband's family used to do this all the time, and it always grossed me out. It's like tiny baloney, I know, but still - I would gag if I ate a hotdog that did have some grilled goodness!

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4 hours ago, woodscommaelle said:

Thoughts at the four minute mark: I hope Jenelle and Dave die in a fire.

Thoughts at the four minute mark: I hope Jenelle and Dave die in a fire.

LOLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!! That made my night.

Kail to Javi: "Where are my professional goals going to take us....take me." She had no problem quickly changing the "us" to "me."

Oh please, like no one would eat the hot dog off the floor in the Messer house. I think Leah made it a point to say "ew" and make sure we saw that she threw it away since she knows she's let her kids eat off the floor in the past. She didn't want to have to read another thread about it!

Gracie somersaulting up the stairs looked like something out of The Grudge!

Leah said Ah Fill Ack at the yogurt shop, and I smiled inside again. But the "ack" actually sounded more like "ike" this time, so I pouted a little.

At the BBQ the girlses not only got s'mores (I mean s'moreses), but also ice cream cones and cupcakes. It was a well rounded meal, ya'll!

Jenelle: "Dude, this is gonna be a bad day for me!" David: "You're making it that way for yourself." The one and only time in the history of the galaxy that I have ever agreed with him. After this episode I think I am at my capacity for loathing Jenelle.

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I love that Janelle said it was going to be a bad day for her because Kaiser the baby started to cry and Janelle was like "stop crying!" at him as if that was going to do..anything, instead of, well, you know, seeing what the child needs. Both Janelle and David seemed to think that yelling at Kaiser Sushi to stop crying would stop him from doing so. Ugh. Why are these people parents? Can that be this shows subtitle? 

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14 minutes ago, AhFillAck said:

LOLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!! That made my night.

Kail to Javi: "Where are my professional goals going to take us....take me." She had no problem quickly changing the "us" to "me."

Oh please, like no one would eat the hot dog off the floor in the Messer house. I think Leah made it a point to say "ew" and make sure we saw that she threw it away since she knows she's let her kids eat off the floor in the past.

Gracie somersaulting up the stairs looked like something out of The Grudge!

Leah said Ah Fill Ack at the yogurt shop, and I smiled inside again. But the "ack" actually sounded more like "ike" this time, so I pouted a little.

At the BBQ the girlses not only got s'mores (I mean s'moreses), but also ice cream cones and cupcakes. It was a well rounded meal, ya'll!

Jenelle: "Dude, this is gonna be a bad day for me!" David: "You're making it that way for yourself." The one and only time in the history of the galaxy that I have ever agreed with him. After this episode I think I am at my capacity for loathing Jenelle.

She said it 3 times at the ice cream place. I giggled for you. Then had to explain why I kept giggling.  

 

Dont nut hate me but as a kid I was weird. I liked my hot dogs cold. I'm still a weird adult most times, but now I like my hot dogs cooked. ?? 

 

I'm so thankful when Chelsea is onscreen (except her makeup was way too dark in her early scenes). I never thought I'd be glad for her moments but it's pretty much the only time my blood pressure gets a break. Those other three girls stress me out! I can't with them. Yet, I can't turn away. 

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If it wouldn't be so detrimental to Jace, I'd love for Barb to say "ya know Janelle? Keep him".  Let Janelle spend one full week taking hi to school, getting him ready for bed, making him dinner, wiping his runny nose. How long it would take before  Janelle started in on her spiel about how she needed a break because she was seeing molecules? How long would it take before that Dave beast hurt Jace?

No. Barbs absolutely cannot send Jace back to Janelle.  Janelle will park Jace in front of the X-box, throw hot dogs at him occasionally and expect him to raise Kaiser.  It might be better for Kaiser to have his older brother over there to take care of him (just like Gracie at Leah's house) but I do understand why Barbs doesn't call Janelle's bluff.   Unfortunately, at 6 Jace is so self-sufficient that a nearly negligent parent can ignore him much more effectively than Kaiser. 

 

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Jeremy has been wanting Leah back? Since when?  

You didn't miss anything.  Jeremy never wanted Leah back.  He asked her to dinner to discuss something, which the forum members speculated was producer-driven or possibly about her drug addiction/custody of the kids.  Leah's face immediately lit up, and she assumed Jeremy wanted to get back together with her and discussed this with her various friends/relatives/free babysitters.  At the dinner, it was clear that Jeremy had absolutely no interest in dating Leah, but she thinks he wanted her.  

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