The Duggars: In the Media and TLC

[sheshark]

Do the Duggars get any kind of compensation from the state for Tyler?  I know foster parents get a subsidy.  And foster children in NJ get Medicaid and free pre-schooling, tutoring, summer programs and school lunches (not that he would).

Edited December 4, 2016 by sheshark

[BitterApple]

2 hours ago, sheshark said:

Do the Duggars get any kind of compensation from the state for Tyler?  I know foster parents get a subsidy.  And foster children in NJ get Medicaid and free pre-schooling, tutoring, summer programs and school lunches (not that he would).

It probably depends on the State. My aunt and uncle in Mass. have legal guardianship of three of their grandchildren. The only help they get is the kids are on the State health insurance. They make too much money to qualify for Food Stamps or daycare subsidies, so they're pretty much on their own.

Honestly J'Tyler would've been better off in foster care. At least there'd be some accountability with the authorities. Now the poor kid is just going to be swept up in the Duggar vortex of neglect and ignorance. I guess "white" and "Christian" are the only criteria judges in Arkansas use to determine if a couple are capable guardians.

Edited December 4, 2016 by BitterApple

[ginger90]

7 hours ago, sheshark said:

Do the Duggars get any kind of compensation from the state for Tyler?  I know foster parents get a subsidy.  And foster children in NJ get Medicaid and free pre-schooling, tutoring, summer programs and school lunches (not that he would).

I don't know about the Duggars, but I Found this:

What is the Arkansas Subsidized Guardianship Act?

Arkansas guardianships under the Subsidized Guardianship Act receive funding—just as in foster care—from the Department of Human Services (DHS).  There are a large number of qualifying factors for these types of Arkansas guardianships, and section 9-8-204 of the state code lists qualifying factors: 

1. the child has been removed from the custody of their parents because continued care would decrease the welfare of the child

2. the department is responsible for the placement and care of the child

3. being returned home or being adopted is not an option for the child

4. permanent placement within an Arkansas guardianship meets the best interests of the child

5. the child demonstrates a strong attachment to the guardian and the guardians shows strong commitment to the child

6. if the child is 14, the child has been consulted regarding Arkansas guardianships

7. the guardian is qualified to a means-based test

8. if required, a certain degree or relationship exists between the child and the guardian

9. the child has special needs

That's a bit spread out, sorry.

(fixed for easier reading --frenchtoast)

Edited December 5, 2016 by frenchtoast
Removed extra spaces

[Rabbittron]

I  have guardianship of my 2 nephews due to my sister is in the army .  I  have drop in surprise ss visits once a week and I  have to give them a weekly report and so do their teachers. I  do not get any assistance as they are still dependants of my sister and gets benefits from her . 

[JoanArc]

49 minutes ago, Rabbittron said:

I  have guardianship of my 2 nephews due to my sister is in the army .  I  have drop in surprise ss visits once a week and I  have to give them a weekly report and so do their teachers. I  do not get any assistance as they are still dependants of my sister and gets benefits from her . 

These kinds of rules may vary by state, just like phone schooling laws, etc.

[Sew Sumi]

1 hour ago, Rabbittron said:

I  have guardianship of my 2 nephews due to my sister is in the army .  I  have drop in surprise ss visits once a week and I  have to give them a weekly report and so do their teachers. I  do not get any assistance as they are still dependants of my sister and gets benefits from her . 

Is this a temporary guardianship? I ask because your sister is certainly competent to raise her kids once her deployment(s) is/are over. The Duggars now have permanent guardianship over Tyler because the birth mother declared herself (or a court ordered her) incompetent. 

[Rabbittron]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Is this a temporary guardianship? I ask because your sister is certainly competent to raise her kids once her deployment(s) is/are over. The Duggars now have permanent guardianship over Tyler because the birth mother declared herself (or a court ordered her) incompetent. 

It is considered permanent for the next 10 yrs until the younger brother is 18 because she is career army andshe doesn't want the kids to have an unstable life with her deployment every few years.

[Sew Sumi]

Wow, I didn't know that was a thing. I know you didn't mention the father, so I guess he's out of the equation. I bet there is no dispensation for women unfit to raise kids when a husband (or soon to be ex, or ex) is deployed. The wife seems to be stuck in her circumstance. This boggles my mind. We may need to move this to the Prayer Closet for further discussion. :)

[Rabbittron]

9 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Wow, I didn't know that was a thing. I know you didn't mention the father, so I guess he's out of the equation. I bet there is no dispensation for women unfit to raise kids when a husband (or soon to be ex, or ex) is deployed. The wife seems to be stuck in her circumstance. This boggles my mind. We may need to move this to the Prayer Closet for further discussion. :)

Answering in the prayer closet.

[zenme]

Just saw the new ad for the show. Looks like the Duggar girls finally got the memo about open toed booties. Looks like we know what shoe they'll be wearing for Joy's wedding and for the next 5 years to come!

[Arwen Evenstar]

13 minutes ago, zenme said:

Just saw the new ad for the show. Looks like the Duggar girls finally got the memo about open toed booties. Looks like we know what shoe they'll be wearing for Joy's wedding and for the next 5 years to come!

Shoes and Joy seem to be mutually exclusive.

[Churchhoney]

9 hours ago, zenme said:

Just saw the new ad for the show. Looks like the Duggar girls finally got the memo about open toed booties. Looks like we know what shoe they'll be wearing for Joy's wedding and for the next 5 years to come!

When I think of the Duggars and open-toed booties, I somehow feel that those are shoes Bill Gothard might have invented. Talk about the perfect shoes for a Puritanical fetishist.

[Arwen Evenstar]

4 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

When I think of the Duggars and open-toed booties, I somehow feel that those are shoes Bill Gothard might have invented. Talk about the perfect shoes for a Puritanical fetishist.

Touché, Churchie! You know that would be Gothard approved footwear. After all, "feet aren't sexual".

Straight from the Wisdumb Booklets to our ears!

[LilJen]

21 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Touché, Churchie! You know that would be Gothard approved footwear. After all, "feet aren't sexual".

Straight from the Wisdumb Booklets to our ears!

(Never mind that in the Old Testament, feet are often used as a metaphor for genitals. Presumably the Duggars have never heard this.)

[ChaChaSlide]

1 hour ago, LilJen said:

(Never mind that in the Old Testament, feet are often used as a metaphor for genitals. Presumably the Duggars have never heard this.)

In the Duggar world, biblical wine translates to grape juice, but feet is just feet y'all.

[sheshark]

God help us.  http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/32155/20161230/jill-duggar-jessa-counting-life-behind-reality-television-show.htm  

[WhineandCheez]

Quote

God help us. http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/32155/20161230/jill-duggar-jessa-counting-life-behind-reality-television-show.htm

THIS IS THE GREATEST THING I HAVE EVER READ!!  Some quick bullet points:

They evangelize people in the area like introducing them to a relationship with God.

Love the grammar

 The couple helped the needy and helpless in their place of assignment.

HOW exactly is that?  Helped how??  Painted toenails???

Their return to their mission field has not materialized as Jill is again heavy with child

Very King James.  "Lo there appeared before then a great stinkbus in the heavens.."

According to The Hollywood Gossip, the couple should have returned to El Salvador as promised but they failed. They have to refund donations for their missions to the donors

YA THINK???  Naw...

Behind the scenes, they must opt for regular jobs to sustain their families as all reality shows are bound to end.

THIS is the most incredulous statement OF ALL TIME!!!

Edited December 30, 2016 by WhineandCheez

[SMama]

WTF did I just read? 

[Lady Edith]

"Very King James.  'Lo there appeared before then a great stinkbus in the heavens..' "

Whine and Cheez, Lo, thou hast verily wonst the interwebs with thy comment.  

-cut and pasted because I can't seem to work the single quote function. 

Edited December 30, 2016 by Lady Edith

[Arwen Evenstar]

2 hours ago, Lady Edith said:

"Very King James.  'Lo there appeared before then a great stinkbus in the heavens..' "

Whine and Cheez, Lo, thou hast verily wonst the interwebs with thy comment.  

-cut and pasted because I can't seem to work the single quote function. 

I wuv u!

[Churchhoney]

17 hours ago, SMama said:

WTF did I just read? 

I don't know, but thanks to that "article" I looked for the Evangelical Reformation Conference online and found that there's a page for it. (Tickets $40 to $100) They fancy themselves the second coming of folks like Luther (The illustration is priceless -- and it no doubt has live Lutherans shuddering and millions of dead Lutherans rolling over in their graves) and they describe themselves in prose that just about matches the writing in the "article."

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/evangelism-reformation-conference-tickets-30739961051?aff=erelexpmlt

 

"Description

Today's statistics show that the number one reason why the church in America doesn’t share the Gospel, is not due from a lack of training, but from a lack of trust in the Gospel’s power to save.

This unbelief in the Gospel’s power to rescue a sinner from death is the chief reason why we see so much pragmatism and man-centered gimmicks obsessively being pedaled among the church today.

There has been an attempt to compensate for this reality by filling in this great void by appealing to men by worldly means.

When the biblical Gospel is substituted by a pleasure-driven, man-centered message, we should expect to see the tragic reprucussion both within the church and without.

The church suffers from our cold indifference to God’s ordained means of reaching men, and the world around us suffers from not hearing the Truth. This is the reason for the upcoming conference. This is a call to return to the evangelism that has shaken the nations throughout history. Men like Martin Luther, John Knox, George Whitefield etc. Today we are in need of a greater reformation. We are in need of an Evangelism Reformation.

Speakers will include: Voddie Baucham, Jeff Rose, Mark Spence, Jeff Pollard, Scott Brown, Dr. Jason Lisle, Ben Seewald and Chuck O'Neal."

 

So this is what Bin will be bringing us. An Evangelism Reformation.

I'm eager to see that.

Edited December 31, 2016 by Churchhoney

[kokapetl]

20 hours ago, sheshark said:

God help us.  http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/32155/20161230/jill-duggar-jessa-counting-life-behind-reality-television-show.htm  

This sort of writing comes out of sweatshops, I think. 

[Sew Sumi]

 Good Lord, besides being 95% factually inaccurate, the grammar is atrocious.  I have a suspicion that this was written by an ESL student. Even my disabled students, with the exception of the one with the brain injury, can put together grammatically correct sentences more accurately than this "author."

smh

[DangerousMinds]

"Unbelief." LMAO.

Also, many words, but what exactly are they trying to say? Pragmatism and man-centered gimmicks? I need examples.

[GeeGolly]

From what I read see and hear, I thought the below quote is the basic premise of extreme Fundyism. Maybe it's more accurate with the word translated than substituted. IMO this guy has it backwards, because I would love to know where in the Bible it says TV is sinful unless you on it, that having friends from other religions is sinful, trusting your kids is sinful, allowing your kids an education is sinful, allowing your kids to date is sinful, working for others is sinful, females wearing pants is sinful, reading books is sinful, masturbating is sinful, oppressing woman is godly, owning your family is godly, being self-righteous is godly, judging others is godly ... 

"... biblical Gospel is substituted by a pleasure-driven, man- centered message ..."

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, Kokapetl said:

This sort of writing comes out of sweatshops, I think. 

Yeah, some poor fool, possibly not a native speaker, probably gets paid $5, total, for producing about 100 of these for various clickbait dens.

34 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

"Unbelief." LMAO.

Also, many words, but what exactly are they trying to say? Pragmatism and man-centered gimmicks? I need examples.

"We have come to save the world from evils so evil that we will not even describe them to you!"  perhaps?

[Barb23]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

From what I read see and hear, I thought the below quote is the basic premise of extreme Fundyism. Maybe it's more accurate with the word translated than substituted. IMO this guy has it backwards, because I would love to know where in the Bible it says TV is sinful unless you on it, that having friends from other religions is sinful, trusting your kids is sinful, allowing your kids an education is sinful, allowing your kids to date is sinful, working for others is sinful, females wearing pants is sinful, reading books is sinful, masturbating is sinful, oppressing woman is godly, owning your family is godly, being self-righteous is godly, judging others is godly ... 

"... biblical Gospel is substituted by a pleasure-driven, man- centered message ..."

Even Pastor Schott (?sp) told Benessa  there wasn't anything in the Bible about saving your first kiss for the wedding day. 

[TaxNerd]

On 12/30/2016 at 2:25 PM, WhineandCheez said:

Their return to their mission field has not materialized as Jill is again heavy with child

Isn't she due in July?  Love how a four ounce fetus makes you too "heavy" to travel, especially when travel features so prominently in the story of Christ's birth.

Edited January 1, 2017 by TaxNerd

[Portia]

13 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

"Unbelief." LMAO.

Am I missing the joke? As far as I can tell, that's one word they managed to use correctly.

[DangerousMinds]

Disbelief?

[kalamac]

I think in this context it should be non-belief. As in, I personally am a nonbeliever.

[ginger90]

Unbelief, here you go....

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/unbelief/

[Missy Vixen]

On 12/30/2016 at 0:25 PM, WhineandCheez said:

 

Their return to their mission field has not materialized as Jill is again heavy with child

Very King James.  "Lo there appeared before then a great stinkbus in the heavens.."

 

 

Would you court with me? <3

On 12/31/2016 at 6:04 PM, TaxNerd said:

Isn't she due in July?  Love how a four ounce fetus makes you too "heavy" to travel, especially when travel features so prominently in the story of Christ's birth.

It's the mustard cardigan. Jilly Muffin will do ANYTHING to hang onto that piece of clothing!

[Arwen Evenstar]

4 hours ago, Missy Vixen said:

 

It's the mustard cardigan. Jilly Muffin will do ANYTHING to hang onto that piece of clothing!

Perhaps we should ask the mods to give us a page dedicated to All Things Mustard Cardigan.

[Portia]

6 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Perhaps we should ask the mods to give us a page dedicated to All Things Mustard Cardigan.

There's a "Carl's Hat" thread for the Walking Dead  forum, so . . . precedent?

[Oldernowiser]

"This unbelief in the Gospel’s power to rescue a sinner from death is the chief reason why we see so much pragmatism and man-centered gimmicks obsessively being pedaled among the church today."

Enjoying the hell out of the mental picture of one of them new-fangled rock music ministers on a bicycle conducting Spiritual Spin Class.

Morons.

Edited January 5, 2017 by Oldernowiser

[Lemur]

55 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

"This unbelief in the Gospel’s power to rescue a sinner from death is the chief reason why we see so much pragmatism and man-centered gimmicks obsessively being pedaled among the church today."

Enjoying the hell out of the mental picture of one of them new-fangled rock music ministers on a bicycle conducting Spiritual Spin Class.

Morons.

Pedaled?  Like in pedicabs?  Pedicabs full of secular humanists?

[Missy Vixen]

7 hours ago, Lemur said:

Pedaled?  Like in pedicabs?  Pedicabs full of secular humanists?

Secular humanists pedaling to hell...

Is anyone else hearing AC/DC in their heads right now? ;-)

[scriggle]

1 hour ago, Missy Vixen said:

Secular humanists pedaling to hell...

Is anyone else hearing AC/DC in their heads right now? ;-)

I'm hearing Queen. 

Bicycle bicycle bicycle

I want to ride my bicycle bicycle bicycle

I want to ride my bicycle

I want to ride my bike…

[Lemur]

15 hours ago, Missy Vixen said:

Secular humanists pedaling to hell...

Is anyone else hearing AC/DC in their heads right now? ;-)

 

14 hours ago, scriggle said:

I'm hearing Queen. 

Bicycle bicycle bicycle

I want to ride my bicycle bicycle bicycle

I want to ride my bicycle

I want to ride my bike…

I love you both with all of my shriveled little blackened heart.

Here we go again with the whole "all good things come from the Gospel" crap.  Ugh.  I'm shutting down my rant before I get this excellent, excellent exchange shipped off to the "Things That Irritate" thread.

[flyingdi]

On 1/5/2017 at 6:44 PM, scriggle said:

I'm hearing Queen. 

Bicycle bicycle bicycle

I want to ride my bicycle bicycle bicycle

I want to ride my bicycle

I want to ride my bike…

Not if it's a used bicycle seat!

[Arwen Evenstar]

33 minutes ago, flyingdi said:

Not if it's a used bicycle seat!

Particularly one that's got "pieces of chewed gum" underneath it.

[Rabbittron]

In this family Highway to Hell is the perfect song.

[Arwen Evenstar]

38 minutes ago, Rabbittron said:

In this family Highway to Hell is the perfect song.

Rock anthems and Songs to Duggars wouldn't be complete without the following:

Paranoid by Black Sabbath

Highway to Hell by AC/DC

Crazy Train by Ozzy Osbourne

Satisfaction (I Can't Get No) by the Rolling Stones

Burning for You (Blue Oyster Cult)

The Unforgiven (Metallica)

Master of Puppets (Metallica)

Another Brick in the Wall by Pink Floyd

Run Like Hell by Pink Floyd

Dancing with Myself by Billy Idol

The Show Must Go On by Queen 

I'm sure there's others, but if I come up with more, I'll post in Parodies.

[Malvina]

http://www.duggarfamily.com/2017/1/a-brand-new-season

[Sew Sumi]

Saw that on TLC. Even remarked that the opening scene is not Pensacola. Someone who lives in the VA city recognized it. 

[riverblue22]

2 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Saw that on TLC. Even remarked that the opening scene is not Pensacola. Someone who lives in the VA city recognized it. 

That would be Fredericksburg, I believe.

[Arwen Evenstar]

Lookie what I found

http://www.inquisitr.com/3865491/duggar-family-news-jim-bob-and-michelle-keep-calling-their-kids-servants-on-facebook/

[DangerousMinds]

Found this just now:

http://www.inquisitr.com/3866831/duggar-family-slammed-for-facebook-post-about-money-being-the-root-of-all-evil/

Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar recently shared a Bible verse on their family Facebook page that raised a few eyebrows. Some of the Duggar family’s fans called the former 19 Kids and Counting stars hypocrites for quoting 1 Timothy 6:10, which says that “the love of money is the root of all evil.” The Duggars’ Facebook post included a photo of a young girl showing her love of money by hugging a big pile of coins.

 

Hypocrites much?

This quote really amuses me:

"The Duggars used to be frugal out of necessity. Long before they became reality show stars and could afford the tin mansion that they currently reside in, the Duggars lived in a cramped house with just one bathroom. Jim Bob credits a financial seminar he and Michelle attended at church for helping him figure out how to support his super-sized family, and he believes that God now controls his finances."

God, or TLC???

Edited January 9, 2017 by DangerousMinds

[Oldernowiser]

Matthew 19:24, JimBoob...

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

That prosperity gospel garbage annoys the crap out of me because first, it's used to pass judgment on the poor, since God's got the celestial checkbook and clearly must think the poor suck, and second, it's the basis of some of the most evil scams in history.

It makes my shriveled little heart rejoice on those few occasions when the Duggars' stunning hypocrisy gets called out for what it is.