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The Duggars: In the Media and TLC

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As a reminder, the site's Politics Policy remains in effect.  Yes, Jim Bob is apparently running for office again. That does not make it an acceptable topic of conversation in here - unless for some mysterious reason, TLC brings the show back and it is discussed on there. Even then, it would be limited to how it was discussed on the show.

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Featherhat

Featherhat

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I think anyone that joined ATI/IBLP via the Duggars was probably already leaning heavily that way. Most of the people I know who watched it as actual fans seemed more into the "bless their hearts, apple pie, lovely well behaved kids, good to see some people being Godly" types who appreciate it in other people but would never commit to the fundie lifestyle themselves. Though maybe there was an increase in fans attending Big Sandy or fundie churches they spoke at. You actually do have to do some (basic) googling to find out about Gothardism from the Duggars (or even the Bates)they may be stealth recruiting but watching the show gives you very little idea about what their sect actually is, they are just random "very conservative Christians" as far as TLC showed.

Does anyone remember if the Jill/Jessa spin off was talked about pre Joshgate 1.0? Because the aftermath of that was when I first heard about, but there have been several articles when it seemed talk of a "married Duggar girls" spin off was already in the works when it broke. Just interested because it adds a slightly different perspective to their public interviews/behaviour. If it was a mooted for a couple of weeks as a maybe test flag after it became clear that the 19 kids format would have to change, that's a hope that was quickly quashed, if it was already in the works then the scandals destroyed two TV shows, and the two young couples stood to gain a lot of extra money and publicity, which might explain certain things.

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I was thinking about this and the idea that the girls weren't "harmed" and weren't "damaged goods" which led me to realize that ALL of the Duggar children are "damaged goods" and I think that's becomi

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They put themselves on tv and have proclaimed over and over and over and over again that their way of life is the way to ensure that your children are totally safe from every evil of the world, and in

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I don't know where to post this but I fucking met Michelle Duggar. Let me set the scene. So my cousin is getting married and we were at a shop looking at dresses here in Kentucky when the Duggars marc

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Just a year before the abuse revelations broke, Josh Duggar spoke at a May 2014 ATI conference, extolling the importance of living “a life of holiness” for the sake of one’s children. His siblings, he said, looked up to him as the oldest: “I had a greater influence on my younger siblings than my parents did in so many ways,” he said.

This part literally made the hairs on my neck and arms stand up in revulsion. You had "greater influence" on your younger siblings than your parents did, Josh? Well, that's probably true in a lot of ways but it's not really something I'd publically brag about if I were you. Eugh.

 

He hinted vaguely at his past, saying that when he was 15 his father “got me connected with some people who were really solid that would spiritually guide me” toward a “path of righteousness.”

Ok, this actually makes me wonder if Josh is an actual sociopath or if he is just extremely good at compartmentalising different parts of his life and morals. I just don't get how a person can stand up in public and claim righteousness all the while they are using cheating websites and bonking porn stars.

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SometimesBites

SometimesBites

Seconded, heartily.  Also:

 

“'As we commit the work of buying a toothbrush to Him,' one Wisdom Book advises, 'He has promised to make His will known to us.'"

 

Clearly God laid it on my heart to own a Crest Spinbrush. 

"Hey, Dim Bulb: I gave you a large forebrain. Isn't that enough? Pick out your own freaking toothbrush and leave me alone. I have a universe to run." --God.

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CofCinci

CofCinci

09/11/15: Duggar records protected, motion says

Records related to a 911 call from the Jim Bob Duggar residence and letters from a judge to Springdale city officials aren't subject to release under a Freedom of Information Act, according to a motion to intervene in a lawsuit filed on behalf of a "Jane Doe" minor.

The Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette sued Sept. 3 in Washington County Circuit Court after Springdale officials refused requests for the documents. They include the recording of the 911 call and supporting documents from May 27 and correspondence between Circuit Judge Stacey Zimmerman and Ernest Cate, Springdale city attorney.

The 911 call is from the case worker when the Duggars weren't cooperative.

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Quilt Fairy

Quilt Fairy

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Just to make it clear, that is not a ruling from a judge, it's a motion from the complainant.

 

"I do not believe that the intervention is warranted," said Brandon Cate, an attorney for the newspaper. "We do not seek juvenile court records. We seek public records held by the city of Springdale."

 

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Guest

Guest

I feel like TLC would make a killing if they waited a few more months for appearance sake and then released the canned season directly to Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc. Jessa's pregnancy announcement, Derick/Jill's decision to go "overseas," Ben's college graduation, the Marsiah courtship that ended in flames...

 

Confession: I would buy the heck out of that season if it ever saw daylight.  

kokapetl

kokapetl

I feel like TLC would make a killing if they waited a few more months for appearance sake and then released the canned season directly to Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc. Jessa's pregnancy announcement, Derick/Jill's decision to go "overseas," Ben's college graduation, the Marsiah courtship that ended in flames...

Confession: I would buy the heck out of that season if it ever saw daylight.

I would too.
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WhineandCheez

WhineandCheez

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How has this not been seen before? How do you pick the best moment?  "I love cousin Jamie, too bad she's going to Hell."  The kid wanting to buy broccoli-- "Sometimes my bones hurt". "Michelle's" wig. Josh being called "BJ" or "Beej?"  All priceless.

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Liz Tudor

Liz Tudor

If you haven't yet, you need to watch ALL the episodes of Kid Farm. There are only 7 or 8, and it's been a great long while since the last one was made. Pete Holmes and friends watched as much or more of the Duggars than the people on this forum and went to town. I've re-watched them, because, like with a lot of good comedy, there's stuff you miss while you're crying laughing. If only there was a real J.P. lurking around...Mechelle would just LOVE that!!!

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SomePity1066

SomePity1066

"Body dancing"...

 

"Shopping is when we leave the house. Which can be fun. And scary..."

 

"It's like when Pacassi was painting on the walls of the Sissy Chapel..."

 

And, oh, my GOD !!! How much does "Elizabeth" remind me of Anna ?!?! I've said this before, but the only phrase that fits is "freshly tasered". 

 

I would trade just about anything - ANYTHING - to have the Duggars watch Kid Farm ! My bet is that they'd take it seriously, Michelle would be jealous, and JB would be trying to hook up with them for another TV gig. 

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Liz Tudor

Liz Tudor

And, oh, my GOD !!! How much does "Elizabeth" remind me of Anna ?!?! I've said this before, but the only phrase that fits is "freshly tasered". 

 

I would trade just about anything - ANYTHING - to have the Duggars watch Kid Farm ! My bet is that they'd take it seriously, Michelle would be jealous, and JB would be trying to hook up with them for another TV gig.

Bwhahahahaha! "Freshly tasered!" Alone in the house, and my cackling startled a cat.

Don't you know M & JB would probably look on this family as a total threat (hey! They have a show and ONLY have 17 kids!!) and wonder why they never ran into them at Big Sandy.

Since I've binge watched all the episodes recently, something that really cracks me up is Batron (the African-American kid) is a different actor in every single episode, including in the beginning credits where all the kids are "counted." And of course, the parents never notice...

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SomePity1066

SomePity1066

Bwhahahahaha! "Freshly tasered!" Alone in the house, and my cackling startled a cat.

Don't you know M & JB would probably look on this family as a total threat (hey! They have a show and ONLY have 17 kids!!) and wonder why they never ran into them at Big Sandy.

Since I've binge watched all the episodes recently, something that really cracks me up is Batron (the African-American kid) is a different actor in every single episode, including in the beginning credits where all the kids are "counted." And of course, the parents never notice...

Okay, errr... so I'm not the only one here that binge-watched the entire Kid Farm caboodle ? Guilty as charged, but laughing all the way to the jailhouse ! Liz Tudor (love the name !) you can sit next to me at lunch anytime !!! Sorry to have freaked out your kitty  :)

 

I found the whole parody series to be eerily, even uncomfortably, accurate, from the spot-on Michelle perm-y, crispy hair that resembles a Top Ramen waterfall, to the far-off, distant attitude of the featured children. They absolutely NAILED the dynamic of the Duggars' group lobotomy...

 

The home-foolin' segment was of particular interest to me - when a child can't distinguish learning from lunch, and every day starts with the letter "A" then you know you're an uneducated, colossal twat. I'm not even sure if that was from Kid Farm or the actual 19K & Counting show. 

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Liz Tudor

Liz Tudor

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17 kids ... give or take. That gets me every time. 16, 17, 18? We're not sure, but it's a lot! Makes me think they might lose track of one, which sounds familiar.

Not to be a spoiler, but there's one episode centered around them going out, and after counting heads, they spend the whole time looking for a named child that doesn't exist.

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kokapetl

kokapetl

I don't think JimChelle would be very different had the Duggars and TLC never crossed paths, but I think the daughters would've been far more proactive and less discriminating with their choice in husbands. Jana would've had 2 kids by now. They may not have been so keen with the ill advised Josie and Jubilee pregnancies either.

Oldernowiser

Oldernowiser

If TLC had never come along, where would the Duggars be today?  Would they be as famewhorish or would their lives had stayed the same?

Interesting question. It's my belief that they view their children as merit badges from God...like He keeps sending these "gifts" to tell them how great they are. So I suspect the relentless baby production might have stayed the same, as there doesn't seem to be any human intelligence devoted to the practical question of, "can we afford another child financially or emotionally?" They just would have shoved their fecundity into the faces of their fellow cult members and been even bigger buttheads to the other locals instead.

But the TLC attention and $$$ was the perfect incubator for their inherent narcissism. See, God really really likes us best! We're rich!!! We have idiot leghumpers who kiss our asses!!! We are awesome and you aren't!!!

So my prediction would have been the same crap would have happened, but on a much, much smaller scale.

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Julia

Julia

Not to be a spoiler, but there's one episode centered around them going out, and after counting heads, they spend the whole time looking for a named child that doesn't exist.

 

And they showed this on the air? I was a class mom for my kid's PreK and I knew the names of that many children who had never actually passed from my uterus.

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Featherhat

Featherhat

They probably still wouldn't have finished the TTH, or it would be "finished" to a much worse standard, since TLC stepped in an did it for that special. Also the less photogenic prairie dresses and jumpers would have stayed longer and they'd probably be less inclined to loads of slap. More of the girls would have had courtships/marriages by now.

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

If TLC had never come along, where would the Duggars be today?  Would they be as famewhorish or would their lives had stayed the same?

I think they'd be living in the TTH that would have 3 bedrooms (w/ tons of bunk-beds) and 2 bathrooms upstairs, and one massive room downstairs, with a half-assed kitchen and w/ 2 more bathrooms. I think they would have 19 kids, girls with perms all dressed in Green Blouse type shirts, jean skirts and flip-flops, boys in khakis, polos and taped up cowboy boots. The boys would be working at the used car lot/towing business. They would be making soap and bread and would be living off love offerings. And everyone from Jinger on up would be married (well maybe not JD).

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ramble

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Not to be a spoiler, but there's one episode centered around them going out, and after counting heads, they spend the whole time looking for a named child that doesn't exist.

Is that Bacon? (Or however they spelled it.) I loved the oldest, BJ, with the tambourine solo during the song about the lost kid. I doubt the Duggars have seen this, but I wonder if Amy has. Edited by ramble
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