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It's righting a wrong TPTB did the first time around when they had ass Ridge break up the Brill wedding

 

I'm going to disagree because I don't think Brill was a right in the first place. The pairing made no sense given Bill's dislike of Brooke in the past and that Brooke could get past all the stuff Bill did to Hope. I never saw chemistry and I don't see it now.

 

I like Bill and Katie but I guess I'm alone with that opinion!

 

I'm not suggesting Brooke be sitting at home giving out sage advice to the youngsters but it would be nice to see the character grow up already. She loves Bill? So what? How about do the unexpected and actually have her respect the fact that he's married to her sister. And honestly would it kill Brooke to actually focus on work and not be with a man (particularly a man who is married to a member of her family)?

 

As for Katie or any other character cheating? I don't care. For this particular topic I'm only discussing Brooke and her 25 + years of terror on her family members.

 

Though when Brill happens, I'd like Katie to hook up with Liam. I do see chemistry there.

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You're not alone, Hypnotoad, I too like Bill & Katie. Though it was clear that when she was lounging around in that gorgeous lingerie and they were congratulating themselves on being so happy, that disaster loomed ahead. But their interactions as a married couple have fondness and humor, and their enjoyment of each other and of Will has been refreshingly angst-free. Brooke should finally act like an adult, the old "destiny" stuff is too ancient to be revived once more, but again she'll be swept away and leave destruction in her wake. I can blame Bill too, but she should have kept her mouth shut about "feelings."

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So, that's it with "Model-gate?" Nicole was feeling all hormonal and insecure, so Sasha accepted her apology and they hugged it out? Poof! Over! Another insta-story and subsequent letdown. Actually, I'm glad that plug was pulled quickly. We didn't need another triangle, and maybe now the writers will go back and create a decent surrogacy SL that will have Nicole fight Raya for the baby or flip out over discovering that Nicole's her other sister and tock. Yeah. And I saw a unicorn in my backyard today.

 

I don't think I really heard a word exchanged between Liam and Steffy today because I was just staring in horror at JMW's face. I hate to say it, but she just looks hideous. Her features are all completely out of proportion and defy nature. Don't get me started on her hair. (It's like she's wearing Khloe' Kardashian's recently discarded extensions.)

 

I don't really care about Brooke/Bill/Katie.  I wish that the show would just realize that it's sunk, and just go full-blown camp. I think for starters, Brooke should reprise the "Logan Chronicles." Remember when Stephanie did those webcasts for "Eye on Fashion?" (Chalk that up as another really shitty thing that Bill did to Brooke -- and Donna -- that was obviously forgiven and forgotten.) Obviously, instead of trashing her own family, Brooke could talk about love, romance, fashion, lingerie, etc. Then maybe bring back that show, "The Catwalk" (which was actually pretty good, as long as Pam was a co-host.) Lastly, her monthly editorial could be "From Destiny's Desk ..."  Brooke should channel her inner Sally Spectra and either go big or go home. I think that KKL would be hilarious in a role like that and would probably love it! Alas, the only thing that's going to come off of "destiny's desk," will be splinter's in Brooke's bum from screwing Bill on top of it!

 

Another story idea would be for Carter to take Zende to a high-class "gentlemen's entertainment" establishment. It would be the first time for both of them and we'd see some wide-eyed and slack-jawed wonder, then they'd get whisked off to the private rooms for ... female impersonators!!!

 

Maybe the B&B writers need to thumb through a few Jackie Collins' novels ... SOMETHING!

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When JMW (Steffy) was trying to emote through all the Botox and fillers, I thought of the show FaceOff. Sometimes the judges will ask the models to try to be expressive to see if the prosthetic is functional. JMW would fail that test!

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I'm going to disagree because I don't think Brill was a right in the first place. The pairing made no sense given Bill's dislike of Brooke in the past and that Brooke could get past all the stuff Bill did to Hope. I never saw chemistry and I don't see it now.

 

Same here. I saw the chemistry but that wasn't enough to overwrite the various other reasons beyond the obvious one that they never should've been together in the first place. I mean, this was only months removed from Bill bringing Deacon back to torpedo Hope's wedding plans...she may have been a self entitled ice princess but she should expect some loyalty from her mother....or not, given her very existence.

And of course, while he's far from Victor Newman territory, despite his sphleals about family, $Bill is all about himself first. Who uses her PPD as an excuse that they fell for each other?

As for this go around, this story is at Ludicrous Speed in pacing. At least it took six months before they got together, but now thismay all wrap up within the weeek.

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I'm torn because I like Bill and Katie in the good girl mellows the bad boy angle but am intrigued by Bill and Brooke because we haven't seen them as a true blue couple and I wonder what that would be like. Since she accepted him for who he is and even turned a blind eye about his going after Hope, what would their 'issues' be? And as intrigued as I am in the potential of Brill, I did love that Bill was the ONE man in town who wasn't entranced by the irresistible Brooke Logan and wasn't afraid to call her on it, but that time has sadly passed.

 

Liam seems primed to have a fling with someone. Quinn seems obvious so I'm thinking either Katie or Brooke the reason being that if he's throwing himself into his work then he'll be at SP a lot more hanging out with both women. Brooke took over one of his responsibilities so either he'll gravitate away from her to assist Katie (and they get too close for comfort) or he'll be asked to assist Brooke (on behalf of Bill) and Liam feel the pull of Brooke for himself. The things against Liam and Brooke are that she's Hope's mother and Liam already got a woman due to Bill asking him to take care of her after he dumped her (Steffy).

 

Liam and Katie having a fling could be the thing that causes a big enough rift between Liam and Bill so that Wyatt can slip in as number 1 son. And the Bill/Liam relationship hasn't been tested in a true way as of yet so there's story there but I'd hate to see them become the next Eric/Ridge and I do like Liam and Katie's son/step-mother relationship.

 

Can't we just bring on Allison's hot mom or hot older sister (someone like Anne Heche) to come for a stint to break Liam's back and set him straight? Actually, Liam's mom was a former model, couldn't we have one of her friends from her modeling days, now running a modeling agency or fashion empire or her own magazine come to town to visit him and relive the good old days with Bill, renew a rivalry with Quinn and Liam just go gaga over her and they start a fling?

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Bill was an ass, pure and simple, when he first came on the scene and yes, he was a jerk to all of the Logans, Brooke included, but he didn't even really know her then, so I'm not going to play judge and jury and sentence him on his actions when he first came to town and say, that's all she wrote, because that was years ago. If I did that, I couldn't watch the show at all as so many people started out so, so wrong on the show.

 

Brooke herself has done some incredibly hurtful things over the years but she has been my favorite from day one and I accept her for the flawed character she is. Which is not to say I don't call her out on the carpet when she does stupid and/or hurtful things - I absolutely do, but find me a single character on this show that is perfect and I'll eat my keyboard. I brought up Katie's past as a mirror of Brooke to show that everyone on this show has hurt someone. There are no saints, there are no victims, but flawed individuals who are going to stumble from time to time. And I can't just sit on my hands while Brooke's history is often the only one examined here and taken to task.

 

Where Hope is concerned, I can understand why Hope felt about Bill the way that she did and wanted Brooke to have nothing to do with him. Yet Ridge treated her mother like dog shit on his shoe for years and funny, she didn't have the same animosity towards him. In fact, she was over the moon to have Ridge and Brooke reunite until she learned that he was cheating with Katie behind Brooke's back. Oh and that reminds me, since we're on the subject of loyalty and all, Hope knew about the cheating and said NOTHING to Brooke - so I guess it's just one-way loyalty then? And finally, most importantly, when Bill fell in love with Brooke, he tried to atone with Hope and not just with his words, but with his actions - he stepped completely away from any interference and during that time, Hope had a million opportunities to marry Liam but wait - what's this? It didn't happen, you say? She married Wyatt instead???? Well, Liam was a few minutes late so I guess that's what he deserves. So Hope can a thousand seats - she could have married Liam years ago and be with him now but her childish pride got in the way - not 
$ Bill. But like the entitle little delusional princess that she is, she'll go on hating him and blaming Bill for her mistakes.

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In fact, she was over the moon to have Ridge and Brooke reunite until she learned that he was cheating with Katie behind Brooke's back. Oh and that reminds me, since we're on the subject of loyalty and all, Hope knew about the cheating and said NOTHING to Brooke - so I guess it's just one-way loyalty then?

 

 

Not only didn't she tell, but wasn't she the one urging Ridge and Katie to spend some alone time together to figure things out?  

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Not only didn't she tell, but wasn't she the one urging Ridge and Katie to spend some alone time together to figure things out?  

Oh yes she was...so not only did she lie to Brooke's face (a lie of omission is a lie is a lie is a lie) but yes, she aided and abetted the affair. So again, she can GTFO with her whining about loyalty.

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*As someone from Illinois, the way they refer to the state cracks me up. Where are they supposed to be from, exactly? They've implied it's a small town where everyone is up in everyone else's business, but wasn't Mr. Avant a limo driver? So it can't have been that small. Plus, most people from a city would refer to that city, not the state, e.g. "back to Chicago/Peoria/Springfield", not "back to Illinois". It's a big state! Or simply say, "back home". It's like they constantly have to remind us that the Avants are Not From Here. lol

delurking, still not watching

It's kind of like how Y&R has characters escape to Canada.

back to lurking, still not watching, still missing all of y'all

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Nothing much to add.  I tried to watch yesterday but turned the channel to escape Wyatt's screeching and JMW's strange, immovable face. 

 

Nicole is as remorseful as Maya was for how bad she treated Aly. Not!! Maya and Nicole only give a shit about themselves.

 

They are the worst.  Selfish, manipulative, and conniving without an iota of charm or irony.  And could the woman playing Nicole be any more blank and flat? 

 

 

I like Bill and Katie but I guess I'm alone with that opinion!

 

I like them as well and am not looking forward to a Brooke &  Bill redux.

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I wasn't watching the last time Brill hooked up on top of Katie's sick bed but just because Katie has been a home wrecker in the past doesn't  make Brooke any less of one. IMO I don't like how she is smiling while watching Bill and Katie with their son knowing she is going to torpedo that. At least I think she knows exactly what she is doing.

I'm just glad KKL is getting story.

Even reading about Sasha and Nicole is boring me. And Zendoll, he is plastic.

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I gave in and watched yesterday's episode and now wish I could have that time back. Would it be so hard, writers, for Liam to tell Steffy he thinks she slept with Wyatt? Also, keep Quinn out of her son's business. It's beyond tiresome now.

 

Hey there, person (cause you sure as fuck aren't an actor) who plays Nicole: Are you taking the same medication that Dr. Ben Carson is on?

 

Steffy: Don't you have a mother or some BFFS or anyone warning you about the how you are fucking up your face and may soon cross over to that point of no return? Look at some old pics of yourself, girl. You were so attractive. WTF is your malfunction?

 

Caroline and Ridge: Hurry home, please! But don't bring you-know-who with you.

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OMG...everything you just said politichick!!    Times 1000!

 

Rena Sofer deserves  way  better than this stupidity.

 

Liam & Steffy...worst communication "skills" ever....

 

Woke my cat up laughing so hard....I will never look at Nicole & not think of Ben Carson again. ( Love the impression Trevor Noah/Daily show does of him. Gets me every time.)

 

I am so taken out of every scene with  Steffy's poor plastic face in it. WHAT is she thinking????

 

Caroline & Ridge will be so welcome.....yeah, hope creepy stalker son/stepson gets lost on his way back....

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I saw on Chris McKenna's Twitter (and, Daytime Confidential) that he's joining B&B. Supposedly, he's gonna be paired with a Logan sister. I guess for Brooke to get her away from Bill or Katie if/when she finds out Bill wants Brooke more than Katie. He was so good (and, wasted) on Y&R. He's a good looking dude and built like a brick house. Who knew little Joey from OLTL would grow up to be such a stud. His first day was today so I assume with B&B schedule he'll start airing next month.

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So Deacon and Quinn separated off screen?  Not surprising since their entire relationship has been off screen but seriously, WTF was the point of bringing Sean Kanan back and then marrying him to Quinn if Brad Bell was going to do shit with him?  I knew they would get a throwaway reason.  Can't give them two minutes of screen time together to at least have it make a little bit of sense.

 

I'm so irritated because I just don't fucking get it.

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So Deacon and Quinn separated off screen?  Not surprising since their entire relationship has been off screen but seriously, WTF was the point of bringing Sean Kanan back and then marrying him to Quinn if Brad Bell was going to do shit with him?  I knew they would get a throwaway reason.  Can't give them two minutes of screen time together to at least have it make a little bit of sense.

 

I'm so irritated because I just don't fucking get it.

I was all what in the what now, watching today's episode. So just like that, Deacon and Quinn, a couple I loved despite the scintilla of screentime they had, are broken up and for no reason other than to give SK the shaft again and have the tired, sad Quinn the off the rails meddling mama plot again?

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Almost worse than the off-screen separation of DeaQuinn, when she was talking to Wyatt, Quinn specifically mentioned (paraphrased): "Deacon wasn't a Spencer man, and it seems like they're the only ones who really capture my heart". How long before she's boning Liam, especially since she was with him during his collapse? She actually didn't look like she was rushing to save him, but I'm sure she will. I give it one month, if Steam stay broken up that long.

 

Gag, I wish Wyatt would get on Sasha or something, just so he could get away from Liam's leftovers and actually be with someone his brother hadn't discarded.Of those two, I'd pick Wyatt any day...until I met Quinn.

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"Deacon wasn't a Spencer man, and it seems like they're the only ones who really capture my heart".

 

 

So its either she wants the guy who told her to jump off a roof or she is going to fall for the guy she has pretty much called a p*&y in every way possible.

 

Either way Quinn looks pathetic.

 

What's Deacon gonna do in Europe? He ain't got no job.

 

 

Make it up.  That seems to be what the writers expect since they could never be bothered to put it

on screen. 

 

Another thing that is making me ragey is that on twitter yesterday B&B responded to a where's Deacon tweet with a  tune in tomorrow response like we were going to see him.  Seriously?  No wonder soaps are a dying breed.  Way to screw with your fans.

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RedRockRosie, on 20 Jan 2016 - 12:03 PM, said:

Rena Sofer deserves  way  better than this stupidity..

 

Truth.

 

Let me try ...

 

After giving the prone Liam a couple of taps with her foot, Quinn realizes he's unconscious. Rather than send up an alarm at Forrester Creations, letting Steffy know Liam's in trouble, Quinn pulls him into the passenger side of his car and drives him to hospital emergency. Liam is out of it but able to tell her he's done with Steffy for having sex with Wyatt in his bed, though Quinn knows no sexxxy times were involved. Liam exits the car with her help and she is about escort him to receiving, but a security officer tells her to move her car. She pours Liam into an available wheelchair, and asks the officer to watch Liam while she parks. A second emergency vehicle arrives and in the excitement Liam wanders off. Quinn returns. No Liam and no one has seen him. She searches for him with no luck. Quinn contacts $Bill, but he's an asshat, won't discuss Liam, and hangs up. After a bit of fuming, she contacts Katie and tells her she brought Liam to the hospital but he wandered off and is missing. Wyatt tenderly holds Steffy's hand, then shoulders, then ass while she attempts to move her face in a grimace of grief. Liam inadvertently joins the homeless and a Stephanie Forrester SL is rewritten starring a waffle.

 

 

If a waffle drinks Sterno and sleeps behind a dumpster, does the universe scratch its dandruff and consider trying a coal tar shampoo?

 

Nope.

 

 

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What's Deacon gonna do in Europe? He ain't got no job.

Don't gigolos do well in Europe? He could hop on the cruise ship/casino beat and start "dating" older, unattached women.

 

I saw on Chris McKenna's Twitter (and, Daytime Confidential) that he's joining B&B. Supposedly, he's gonna be paired with a Logan sister. I guess for Brooke to get her away from Bill or Katie if/when she finds out Bill wants Brooke more than Katie. He was so good (and, wasted) on Y&R. He's a good looking dude and built like a brick house.

This is the best news! If they weren't going to give Y&R's Det. Harding a twin brother I guess this is the next best thing. Yay! (But ugh, I hope he's not going to be wasted on Katie. Been there, done that with Ridge.)

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How long before she's boning Liam, especially since she was with him during his collapse? She actually didn't look like she was rushing to save him, but I'm sure she will. I give it one month, if Steam stay broken up that long.

 

Hmmm, I think they're gonna go the other way with Quinn knowing Liam has a brain injury and is acting weird, but instead of helping him get it treated, she allows him to self-destruct a little more- first by alienating Steffy into Wyatt's comforting arms and perhaps even messing up his job at Spencer so Wyatt can rush in to save the day and slide up in Bill's eyes to #1 son. Everyone finds out about Liam's brain issue when it becomes life threatening but Quinn will keep quiet about knowing sooner (and catching the problem earlier will be a factor for how severe his condition becomes) because 'she didn't intend for it to go that far' and 'it's not her fault he injured himself' and 'he's not her kid to be responsible for'.

 

Wyatt will want to keep his mouth shut and protect her 1) because if the truth came out Steffy (who he's engaged to by this time) would go back to Liam and 2) to protect his newfound status with Bill and 3) he knows Bill would make Quinn disappear for her inaction to help Liam.

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Liam was strokin' to the east

and strokin' to the west

and strokin' to the woman that he loves best

Liam was strokin'

 

The Spencer Publications communal office was hysterical.

 

When Liam tells Steffy there's only one woman he couldn't get over, am I supposed to think he's not talking about Hope ?

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Det. Hardon is joining the cast? Woo-hoo! :-)

I'm surprised they showed that footage of pre-work JMW. For a while, they seemed to avoid showing her full face in the flashbacks. I agree that someone needs to do an intervention with her re: messing with her face.

Thank you for making me laugh, Scott Clifton. I needed it. A Victorian maiden couldn't swoon any better than you did!

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So, either Sean Kanan has bad luck or no one likes him. He came back to GH with great fanfare and then got shafted. He got scooped up again by B&B and didn't have that much to do after the Brooke & Quinn storyline. He was actually good as bad boy Deacon. Maybe, Y&R can bring him back again to get Nikki drinking again. Of course, he might be hated there too. Who knows what the real story is.

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They're talking about Hope a bit more so I'm wondering if they're going to recast the role?  They certainly need another cast member.  Det Hardon????  Say it's so !!!  That man boils my coffee.  

 

I'm screaming at my TV for the past few days, "Liam, you fucking idiot.  Just tell the Bratz doll that you saw her shacked up with his brother and that's why you're so pissed".  I have no idea why all soaps do this kind of thing, when it would be so easy to just tell the other person why you're so pissed at them.  But nooooooo.  They have to draw this out to drive us nuts.  

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Det. Hardon is joining the cast? Woo-hoo! :-)

I'm surprised they showed that footage of pre-work JMW. For a while, they seemed to avoid showing her full face in the flashbacks. I agree that someone needs to do an intervention with her re: messing with her face.

Thank you for making me laugh, Scott Clifton. I needed it. A Victorian maiden couldn't swoon any better than you did!

It's too late for an intervention, sadly.

 

This Deacon shit is depressing and stupid, but I am excited about the possibility of Det Hardon!

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I'm beginning to think that is the way Deacon will be written off. I expect a half assed comment that Quinn and Deacon's marriage is over and that is that. We might see him once or twice before.

You called it!
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I saw on Chris McKenna's Twitter (and, Daytime Confidential) that he's joining B&B. Supposedly, he's gonna be paired with a Logan sister. I guess for Brooke to get her away from Bill or Katie if/when she finds out Bill wants Brooke more than Katie. He was so good (and, wasted) on Y&R. He's a good looking dude and built like a brick house. Who knew little Joey from OLTL would grow up to be such a stud. His first day was today so I assume with B&B schedule he'll start airing next month.

Wow, glad to hear this news about Chris. Y&R totally wasted his character. I quite like him.

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Liam was strokin' to the east

and strokin' to the west

and strokin' to the woman that he loves best

Liam was strokin'

LOL, you owe Clarence Carter an apology.

When Liam tells Steffy there's only one woman he couldn't get over, am I supposed to think he's not talking about Hope ?

Survey says...Yup!

Seriously though, the typewriter monkeys let Three the Dull Way have an honest convo about Nic being jelly of Sasha Not Fierce, but Waffle can't directly ask Bratz about seeing her in bed with Wyatt? Bullshit. Pure unadulterated bullshit, with a side of deep fried fuckery for manufactured drama.

Le sigh. Why do I bother to watch this fakakta show when I work at home?

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So sorry to lose  Deacon, because I really like him and Quinn.  He seemed to keep her from being the crazy Mama. Of course now that he's gone she all back to being Quinnsane.  Was anyone lele expecting Brooke to say Hope was in Monte Carlo with Deacon?  Just Me?  OK then.

 

But Woo hoo!  Det Hardon my TV husband is joining!  Can't wait to see who his character will be.  Dare we hope that Bell reads here and has cast him as Loading Dock Guy, the hunky working guy all the women will fall for?

 

As much as I think this revisit to Brill is so tacky with Brooke working so hard to make it happen while appearing to be all about Batie, I think Katie and Hardon could be a great couple.

 

Think about it a moment, $Bill is all macho, macho, unbuttoned shirts, sword necklace, master of his universe. There is part of me that  has always though he's trying too hard to be this manly man (and he can be a first rate asshat).  What if Katie meet Hardon, a real manly man, but one who doesn't feel the need to prove it all the time like Bill does, He could be another tycoon or just a regular guy. but definitely someone Brooke has never been with.   Someone who sees Katie in all her insecurities and sour lemon faces and wants her anyway.  Some one who makes her happy.. And hopefully he will be the type of guy to resist the lure of the golden cooter.

 

 

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I like Bill and Katie but I guess I'm alone with that opinion!

 

 I'm not a fan of $Bill or Katie individually, but I think they should remain as the Smug Marrieds on Bn'B.

 

After all these years Brooke might have one shred of self-awareness that kissing $Bill 'goodbye,' working in the same office and talking about their 'friendship' incessantly is a waterpark flume ride to Fuck Me Baby One More Time. All it will take is One Perfect Tear ™ ... Manx, Spanx, self-control and self-respect out the window.

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What's Deacon gonna do in Europe? He ain't got no job.

 

When did Deacon need a job?

 

With the very specific conversation with Katie and the insulting $Bill, Brooke mentioned that Hope was in Monte Carlo with a 'friend' -- That 'friend' might be Deacon.

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Just read that Detective HardOn is coming to B&B! Guess I'm gonna have to start watching this show again. Although not thrilled over the idea of him with a Logan sister. I guess the show still makes every man who joins the cast first sleep with Brooke? Nothing changed there, huh?

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Think about it a moment, $Bill is all macho, macho, unbuttoned shirts, sword necklace, master of his universe.

Macho except for that waxed, smooth as a baby's butt chest...

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So, either Sean Kanan has bad luck or no one likes him.

 

 

I think its ADD on the part of the writers.  At least GH had a story in mind when they brought him back as AJ.  B&B seems to have never had any real clue why they wanted him in the first place.  He never had any real story.  His thing with Quinn revolved around Hope and once Hope was gone so were Deacon and Quinn.  Once KKL came back it was like 2 weeks of scenes with Brooke not wanting Deacon but not wanting Quinn to marry him either.  Then they got married and disappeared again.  It honestly boggles my mind. 

 

The other thing here is that RS isn't faring any better.  Her sole purpose is to be the Liam spoiler while being up her son's ass.  She has never had any real story either.

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Perhaps Bell couldn't figure out a way to shove Quinn and Deacon into a triangle, his favorite shape. It's just easier to make Quinn a peanut gallery for her son's hideous triangle.

Oh, Detective Harding, you have been missed. He was criminally misused at the end of his Y&R run.

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There was a question about Mr Avant's emphasis on respectability when he's just a limo driver. In some places especially small cities if one is from an old family or they or their relatives have done a lot of good works for the area they have an image and reputation, more so than in other areas where material wealth gives you automatic prestige. This is the impression I have on the Avants and why the parents are very concerned with image and conservative and into social organizations like Church groups and Golf clubs and fits their dapper prestine dressing styles.

It is out of left field Julius would have an affair with his wife's friend so casually. I can't see someone so meticulous doing something that messy & risky. And if he did stray he'd do it with a woman out of town, that was married herself to a big gun so she wouldn't come for him.

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Brooke mentioned that Hope was in Monte Carlo with a 'friend' -- That 'friend' might be Deacon.

Unless Hope is lying, Brooke told Katie that it was one of her girlfriends. My immediate thought was, girlfriends? As in plural? Maybe she made friends in Europe, because she certainly had none in LA.

Dare we hope that Bell reads here and has cast him as Loading Dock Guy, the hunky working guy all the women will fall for?

If he does become the much acclaimed LDG, I will be convinced TPTB are reading this board!
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