NFL Thread

[catlover79]

10 hours ago, Moose135 said:

 

So sad but so true. Most of these were worn in early 2018 at the 0-16 parade. 😝😂

[xaxat]

On 7/20/2020 at 5:59 PM, xaxat said:

Antonio Brown tweeted that he is done with football, maybe?

Well, that didn't take long.

[Moose135]

"Let's Go Washington Football Team!!!"

D.C.’s NFL franchise to go by ‘Washington Football Team’ this season, delays permanent name change

Washington’s NFL franchise will go by the name “Washington Football Team” this season as a placeholder until a new name can be chosen, the club announced Thursday.

The generic name replaces “Redskins,” the organization’s 87-year-old name that had become a target for many who believed it was offensive and a slur toward Native Americans. The team said July 13 it would “retire” the name Redskins at the end of a “thorough review” of the name that the club started July 3 in response to increased criticism and pressure from sponsors.

“For updated brand clarity and consistency purposes, we will call ourselves the “Washington Football Team” pending adoption of a new name,” the team said in a release. “We encourage fans, media and all other parties to use “Washington Football Team” immediately. The Redskins name and logo will officially be retired by the start of the 2020 season.”

[xaxat]

That's funny. Because a lot of people pushing for the name change have called them that for years.

I was hoping for Washington FC.

[Popples]

1 hour ago, xaxat said:

That's funny. Because a lot of people pushing for the name change have called them that for years.

I was hoping for Washington FC.

They could have been the DC/FC and ripped off the AC/DC logo for the merchandise. Their entire marketing department needs to be fired. Along with Snyder.

[Growsonwalls]

Lebron is laughing:

 

[Irlandesa]

6 hours ago, xaxat said:

That's funny. Because a lot of people pushing for the name change have called them that for years.

I was hoping for Washington FC.

That would have been cheeky and fun.  So of course not.

[Court]

 

[AimingforYoko]

Alex Smith cleared by doctors to return to football.

Glad he's made it to this point. OTOH, just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Whatever, he's a grown man of sound mind, as the great philosopher Shock G once said, "Doowatchalike."

[BitterApple]

I can't believe Alex is going to attempt a comeback. Dude, go into broadcasting. I understand wanting to end your career on your own terms, but he nearly lost his life. 

[Carey]

About 3 decades ago, really more than that, the lead model on the Price is Right almost died due to a freak accident, a situation that was very rare as she was handing Bob Barker his microphone.  She returned and continued with that task for another 12 years. Sports-related, NASCAR's Ryan Newman was in a scarier accident and returned as if it never happened.

The life threatening thing is something to take seriously, but when you love something, one would probably conclude that they'll die with a decision to abandoning his or her chosen/favorite sport as opposed to losing their life from it.

That being said, I wouldn't return if I was in Alex Smith's shoes.  At that age, and given the nature of everything, it wouldn't be worth it.  I guess he got his blessings from his family, and therefore I'm okay with the attempt.  The family aspect is more of a reason to call it quits.  If he was 26 I might have had a different opinion on the situation.  It even isn't so much a matter of life and death; it's about the ability to function as a human being outside of football.

Not sure if the league will take a chance on him anyway.  Only Washington can do the right thing, or has a chance to do the best thing.  I wouldn't bet that Dan Snyder will get it right a la Art Rooney II and Pittsburgh with Shazier.  Hats off for Alex for going for it.  Even if it means one play, and conservative and successful one

[merylinkid]

His doctors have cleared him, he has not passed an NFL physical yet.   before he can return to the field he has to do that.   I think the "cleared to play" is more, hey you are recovered than he is really thinks he is going to hit the field.   Injury aside he hasn't played in over 2 years, isn't that past it by NFL standards even if 100% healthy?

[meowmommy]

First NFL player opts out of 2020 season

Quote

Offensive lineman Laurent Duvernay-Tardif became the first player to opt out of the upcoming NFL season on Friday, choosing to put his medical degree to use on the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic rather than helping the Kansas City Chiefs defend their first Super Bowl title in 50 years.

Duvernay-Tardif has been working to fulfill his requirements to become a doctor in the offseason, and has spent this summer working at a clinic in his native Canada. He said that experience helped him decide that if he was going to take any risks with his health, it would be to help patients dealing with the virus.

 

[Carey]

Merylinkid, AFAIK, and as far as I can recall right now, only Mike Vick returned after an absence exceeding 24 months.  He also suffered a lower body / leg injury.  Vick returned from both; the year after his injury his led his team to the NFC Title Game, and his team following his 2-year absence made the playoffs twice in as many seasons (with one division title).  So there's motivation for Alex Smith.  The difference is that Michael Vick returned at 29, and his injury occurred earlier in his career (at 23).  Gotta say that isn't the best news as it relates to an Alex Smith return.

 

Meowmommy, I think we may have seen the last of Laurent in the NFL.  I guess it could depend on how much he made and how much he saved, but he played a position that isn't exactly one that lasts forever.  Given the fact that he earned his ring, and also suffered a significant injury the year before, if it works out well as an M.D. that may be the best path, a chosen path for him

 

[AimingforYoko]

Vikings' Infection Control Officer tests positive for COVID-19.

You can't make it up, folks.

[TVbitch]

After seeing Alex Smith's amazing 30 for 30 on ESPN, I'm not at all surprised he might try for a comeback. Dude was a rockstar mentally and physically in dealing with his life-threatening injury. His doctors were blown away by his effort and spirit, so if he is fit for it, I think he deserves a chance. 

[merylinkid]

Alex Smith is starting camp on PUP.   He did not pass his physical.   

The NFL is NOT going to get it right on Covid.   They have baseball's example right in front of them and Roger Goodell still sent out that fan letter that was basically "Yaaay football is back, have fun."   It's gonna be a hot mess.

[Fukui San]

Are voluntary opt outs starting to trickle into everyone’s teams? Patriots have three so far: FB Danny Vitale, LB D’ante Hightower, and RT Marcus Cannon, who is a cancer survivor. 

[meowmommy]

1 hour ago, Fukui San said:

Are voluntary opt outs starting to trickle into everyone’s teams? Patriots have three so far: FB Danny Vitale, LB D’ante Hightower, and RT Marcus Cannon, who is a cancer survivor. 

We've already had guys, some very early in their careers, say no to CTE and opt out of football, so it's only surprising that even more haven't opted out rather than catch a deadly virus.  They should listen to players like Von Miller who survived COVID-19 but had a rough go of it.

[Moose135]

2 hours ago, Fukui San said:

Are voluntary opt outs starting to trickle into everyone’s teams? Patriots have three so far: FB Danny Vitale, LB D’ante Hightower, and RT Marcus Cannon, who is a cancer survivor. 

From this ESPN story updated this morning, at least 10 players have opted out, including 5 from the Patriots.

[BitterApple]

Hightower's fiancee just gave birth, so he doesn't surprise me, nor does Goodwin. Marquise and his wife have been through the ringer trying to start a family. Now that she finally carried a baby to term, I can't blame him for not wanting to risk it.

I wonder if this will open the floodgates for other players opting out?

 

[Fukui San]

I think players have until Monday to opt out. 

[voiceover]

Meanwhiiiiiiiiiiiile, our darling MVP just became the youngest owner in MLB!

 

[merylinkid]

I love the Patrick Mahomes story.   I don't know any other active player who bought part of a team in another sport.  

The opt out deadline is 7 days from the signing of the revised CBA.   The revised CBA has not been signed yet.    I fully support any player who opts out -- even if its "ya know I just don't think they got this right."   Especially after seeing baseball's reaction to NINETEEN players on one team being exposed -- eh, that team won't play for awhile everyone else, keep playing.  

[BradyBunchFan]

Patriots open training camp as five players opt out

http://turnto10.com/sports/new-england-patriots/patriots-open-training-camp-with-coronavirus-testing

Patriots' Dont'a Hightower, Patrick Chung to opt out of 2020 season

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29551606/source-patriots-donta-hightower-opt-2020-season

[AimingforYoko]

Carole Scarsella of Lackawanna, NY died as she lived: Hating Tom Brady.

[Silver Raven]

Bills send their players home from rookie camp after five test positive.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-send-rookies-home-from-team-facility-after-five-positive-coronavirus-tests-per-report/

 

[AimingforYoko]

12 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Bills send their players home from rookie camp after five test positive.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-send-rookies-home-from-team-facility-after-five-positive-coronavirus-tests-per-report/

 

Oh yeah, this is gonna go well.

[BradyBunchFan]

Former Oklahoma defensive back Rickey Dixon dead at 53

https://247sports.com/Article/Rickey-Dixon-dead-at-53-Oklahoma-Sooners-football-149768904/

Former Oklahoma star Rickey Dixon dies at 53 after battle with ALS

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2020/08/01/rickey-dixon-oklahoma-star-college-football-hall-of-famer-dies/5564896002/

Edited August 1, 2020 by BradyBunchFan

[DrSpaceman73]

No opt outs for the Colts. 

I heard CJ mosely is opting out for the Jets. 

So you get $150K if you opt out with no medical excuse and $350K if you opt out and have a medical excuse. 

Not huge money compared to some salaries, but a nice chunk of change for doing nothing for an average person. 

No opt outs for the Colts, good news for me as a fan

I was thinking recently the NFL really could have, and really had time to set up, a rotating "pod bubble" system.  The schedule the way it is actually lends itself to this and is an advantage.  You can set it up and rotate on a monthly basis, splitting up based on division and interdivision match ups and have from 6-8 sights across the country, rotate then each month.  And you do a bye week at the end of each month.  You may not get to 16 games, would probably get to 14, still working out the details in my head, but it would have been doable. 

But the NFL won't do or probably never considered it.  Their attitude just seems to be we're play a regular schedule, screw it.  Opt out if you want and maybe fans and preseason games reduced, but they are playing a regular 16 game schedule and don't care how any of it turns out

[DrSpaceman73]

Pod bubble plan for the NFL :

14 games each year are made up of 6 divisional games, 4 games with another division in conference and 4 games with another division out of conference.

Month one :  Set up 4 pods across the country made up of the 8 teams that play intra-conference division games each year.  This year that would be :

AFC North/AFC South

AFC East/AFC West

NFC South/NFC North

NFC East/NFC west

You still in that one city, all the teams, for 4 weeks and play the 4 games.

Month two :  4 pods based on inter-conference division games 

AFC South/NFC North

NFC South/AFC West

NFC East/AFC North

NFC West/AFC East

"Month" 3 :  This would really just require division teams, all divisional games for 6 weeks.  You could set up 8 pods for each division or 4 and double up again with two divisions in each place

You have a bye week in between the changing between sites after month one and two.  If you want, since they are traveling anyway, you can schedule the two games based on record each year (intra conference games against the two division not played) in those travels weeks since traveling is happening anyway

Of you could just skip those games OR wait until the end of the season, hope things are better by the first of the year and play them then.  

This adds an extra bye week.  AT worst its a week longer season.  If you take away the two extra games and go to a 14 game season its one less week overall.  

 

[shoregirl]

 

[merylinkid]

I hope he recovers, but training camp has opened.   How many people were exposed?    This is what happened to baseball (and they STILL haven't shut down).    They started having positive tests, and it spread.   

[BradyBunchFan]

Former Cardinals OL Tootie Robbins has died

[Carey]

16 hours ago, merylinkid said:

I hope he recovers, but training camp has opened.   How many people were exposed?    This is what happened to baseball (and they STILL haven't shut down).    They started having positive tests, and it spread.   

The difference, IMO is that baseball is, was, and will be more focused on money before safety.  That part was a mess even before things got started.  While it's early, it doesn't appear to be the case for the NFL.  MLB had a major breach; I don't think that'll occur with football

[merylinkid]

7 hours ago, Carey said:

The difference, IMO is that baseball is, was, and will be more focused on money before safety.  Tha

Serious question, what leads you to believe that the NFL puts safety before money?    The concussion danger was deliberately hidden by their own doctors for years.   They used to hand out pills like candy, toradol is STILL a thing so they can get players on the field.   The players are openly laughing at the NFL doctors who say its safe to play.   

Players are in training camp, where they are too busy to get into trouble.   Once the season starts you will have the same thing baseball is having -- players breaking isolation to go to dinner or, my personal favorite stupid act, a CASINO.   

[DrSpaceman73]

I love the NFL but I in no way think they care about player safety over money.  I can't say if they are more or less concerned about safety than MLB because I don't follow the MLB, but the NFL has had months to prepare for this and really hasn't done much.  

[Carey]

2 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Serious question, what leads you to believe that the NFL puts safety before money?    The concussion danger was deliberately hidden by their own doctors for years.   They used to hand out pills like candy, toradol is STILL a thing so they can get players on the field.   The players are openly laughing at the NFL doctors who say its safe to play.   

Players are in training camp, where they are too busy to get into trouble.   Once the season starts you will have the same thing baseball is having -- players breaking isolation to go to dinner or, my personal favorite stupid act, a CASINO.   

The NFL putting safety before money happens when their star players express concern about the possible conditions, which was done not too long ago.  If an unknown expressed concern about it, then the NFL would’ve suggested he opt out.  However, if it’s people like Mahomes, Wentz, and others like Watt & Brees, then that is a different story.  The NFL can’t afford to have their big stars opting out.
Really, while it looks like the league would put safety first, it is fair enough to say that it’s about money.  As for the misbehavior during the season, the league has been known to be tough on players for things that jeopardize the sports.  In addition to that, I can’t imagine a team that has two dozen players test positive and then say nothing.  Players breaking the rules (and getting in trouble for it)?  Absolutely.  
Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t picture the Cleveland Browns pulling a Miami Marlins to the point of putting the NFL season on life support.  If, say Cleveland has 2 or 3 dozen players test positive because they went to Atlanta to party, then the Browns would likely get punished to a point where they're kicked out for 2020.  I think they would be smart enough to report it, which would help avoid a spread.

I think the biggest concern, as mentioned, is with the injuries (over COVID) that'll happen this year due to the lack of training and conditioning.  The thing that'll suck is if there's a major injury that trickles into 2021.  People will say that these athletes could have worked out on their own & that they should've known better.  The problem is that they couldn't this year, obviously.

2 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

I love the NFL but I in no way think they care about player safety over money.  I can't say if they are more or less concerned about safety than MLB because I don't follow the MLB, but the NFL has had months to prepare for this and really hasn't done much.  

The NFL assumed that this would've gone away by now.  They concluded that they were luckily immune since they were in their off season while the other sports had their stuff cancelled.  The league would lose no time or no games and proceed normally.  That is not good on the NFL's part.  Those that said back in March they'd be shocked to see football are starting to look smart right now
 

[Irlandesa]

The NFL has some positives and negatives going for it. 

A positive is that they can see how things work out with other sports.  They have time to consider the options; although we're coming up on opening weekend pretty quickly.

A positive is that there are usually seven days in between games.  So if Player X on the Vikings gives it to Player Y on the Bears, Player Y will likely be tested and his teammates can also maybe be tested to see if there is team spread before they play their next opponent.

A negative is that there are usually seven days in between games.  They can't bubble up like the NBA is doing where they can stick players in a quarantined area for a week, test and then hold all the games at once.  The NFL is such a physical sport that they need that week in between games. 

Compared to other sports, there are so few games in the NFL.  I think that once games start getting cancelled, it's going to be a mess for records and seeding.  What is going to happen if a team gets this during the playoffs?

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't even think the NFL has a plan for these scenarios.  I'm kind of getting a "cross our fingers" vibe.

 

[ketchuplover]

The Rock buys XFL ... NFL folds ... Covid cured 🥰

[mojoween]

You know what makes me sad?

Broken ass Ben Roethlisberger is oozing his way back to camp, Fertile Phillip Rivers is starting over in Indy...and healthy as hell Eli Manning is sitting at home, tweeting about Frank’s Red Hot.

[TobinAlbers]

Vikings LB Cameron Smith reveals he needs open-heart surgery, will miss 2020 season

They found the issue after doing follow up tests due to his positive Covid-19 test. This is indeed a ‘Lord works in mysterious ways’ moment. Hope his surgery goes well and he’s back next season.

[BradyBunchFan]

Legendary NFL assistant coach Howard Mudd dies at 78

[mojoween]

I see Jerry Jones has oozed out of whatever crypt he spent his summer in so now we start another go-‘round of “is Dak worth anything?”

[DoctorAtomic]

He's also insistent about playing games in front of fans. Social media had a field day - "They can sit in the end zone because no one catches anything there."

 

[Sew Sumi]

Seattle has waived a rookie CB who tried to sneak a woman into the team hotel. 

[Moose135]

7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Seattle has waived a rookie CB who tried to sneak a woman into the team hotel. 

I wonder how many they haven't caught yet?

[BradyBunchFan]

Atlanta Falcons and Oakland Raiders player Quentin McCord has passed:

https://kentuckysportsradio.com/football-2/former-uk-football-star-quentin-mccord-dead-at-42/

[catlover79]

6 hours ago, Moose135 said:

I wonder how many they haven't caught yet?

That's the scary thing. Still, I don't think anyone is surprised. 

[Carey]

11 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:

He's also insistent about playing games in front of fans. Social media had a field day - "They can sit in the end zone because no one catches anything there."

 

I actually don't have a problem with him wanting fans there.  I wouldn't go.  I'm not sure I would pay the regular price for part of the fan experience.  When attending a game, you'd want the full deal with a ton of fans, full concessions, etc.  No restrictions.  Health and safety are important; that aside, no disrespect there, but it's like going to an amusement park where it's different, yet the prices are the same as they would have been with or without a pandemic.

 

AT&T Stadium would be the perfect place to allow fans, at the end of the day.  It is advanced and big enough!