Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[PikaScrewChu]

I'm predicting a February 14th wedding as well. JRod will be inviting every fundie she can think of. Nurie will have 20 bridesmaids and Jana Duggar will be one somehow. As is tradition. 

Ma and Pa Keller must be relieved to get Nathan married off before he discovers that there is a secular world out there. 

[sondraK]

I wonder if he went to Jared

[Sew Sumi]

3 minutes ago, sondraK said:

I wonder if he went to Jared

Nah, that looks like a Zales special. 😁

[PikaScrewChu]

Probably just went on Wish and hoped for the best when the ring came from China. 

Maybe that's why it took so long for them to get engaged! 😱

[Annb67]

Does Nurie have a speech problem. Her voice is so...so...WEIRD.

[Steff]

9 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Nope. She's the only one who is a Duggar now. As I said that did not bring the rest of her family into the fold, so I don't see it bringing in Nathan and Nuri in either.

They don't have to be brought into the fold for Jill to still brag & talk about how she's related to the Duggars (by marriage).  No one else has to acknowledge the connection for Jill to think & feel more important because she's technically now a Duggar (in her mind). 

[awaken]

I’ll be fascinated to see if any of the big names in fundie-dom attend the wedding!

i feel for the other kids with nurie leaving. It must be hard for the little kids and older girls to have an important caretaker gone. 

Guarantee the wedding dress, hair, and makeup will be over the top!  

[Zella]

48 minutes ago, Annb67 said:

Does Nurie have a speech problem. Her voice is so...so...WEIRD.

I've not heard the other Rod kids talk, but she and Tim both sounded a bit odd to me when I've heard them speak. I kind of wondered if if was how isolated they grew up from other kids? I've met some really isolated homeschoolers who had weird intonations. Not quite like theirs but still it makes me wonder. 

[sondraK]

I think Jill has trained them to speak oddly? Nurie sounds like a weird version of her.In any event,it gets attention

[Snow Fairy]

The first and second pictures should be enough. Poor child.

And what's with the constant P.O. Box mentioning?

[GeeGolly]

Not once does she mention her child's name in that entire post. Sierra emphasizes her pleasure in being the one who is able to comfort her baby, not that the baby is comfortable. All that emphasizing and then the next picture is her son sound asleep in the hospital bed. 

Seven kids later and it's still all about the sacrificing mommy.

With all that said, healing thoughts for poor little Urkel. 

[becca3891]

5 hours ago, Zella said:

I've not heard the other Rod kids talk, but she and Tim both sounded a bit odd to me when I've heard them speak. I kind of wondered if if was how isolated they grew up from other kids? I've met some really isolated homeschoolers who had weird intonations. Not quite like theirs but still it makes me wonder. 

I think it's their extreme isolation, yes. They feed off each other and become caricatures of their own selves.

5 hours ago, awaken said:

I’ll be fascinated to see if any of the big names in fundie-dom attend the wedding!

i feel for the other kids with nurie leaving. It must be hard for the little kids and older girls to have an important caretaker gone. 

Guarantee the wedding dress, hair, and makeup will be over the top!  

I always feel bad for the younger Duggars and Bateses when an older sibling, particularly a sister mom, gets married. It has to be as traumatic as a parent moving out, but they don't seem to recognize that when they preach about the evils of divorce and what that does to a child.

[CalicoKitty]

I would think Anna would be the "Dugger" in the wedding party since she is the sister of the groom.  I can't wait for this fiasco.

[GeeGolly]

1. Wedding dress for Nuri. 2. Mother of the bride dress for JillR. 3. Bridesmaid dress. 4. Flower Girl dress.

[GeeGolly]

Who woulda thunk that this family would become a Sweet Fellowship family?

[sondraK]

It won't surprise me if Jill goes with a Gone with the Wind theme for the dresses.It'll be what she wants,not the bride to be or her fiance want

Edited November 11, 2019 by sondraK

[doodlebug]

10 hours ago, Annb67 said:

Does Nurie have a speech problem. Her voice is so...so...WEIRD.

If she did have a speech impediment, it would never have been diagnosed and treated since Mama does all the schoolin' and the kids have very little contact with anyone outside the family.  As others have noted, Tim speaks oddly, too, and it is probably a combination of their isolated upbringing and  nerves from being taped.

I expect Jill to announce any day that Nurie has either begged Mama and Chubby Hubby to renew their vows alongside her and Nathan or she has tearfully implored Mama to be her matron of honor because she is just her bestest friend in the whole wide world.  And, I fully expect Jill to be dressed totally over the top and inappropriately for the wedding to draw attention to herself.   She'll either find a wedding gown that is bigger and pouffier than Nurie's, or she'll go the Southern belle route, complete with parasol covered with flowers.

4 hours ago, Snow Fairy said:

The first and second pictures should be enough. Poor child.

And what's with the constant P.O. Box mentioning?

Well, the baby is obviously much too young to care about Get Well cards, but his illness isn't about him, is it?  And people can reply online to her sending good wishes, but good wishes won't pay for anyChik-Fil-A will they? Sierra is undoubtedly fishing for mail for herself, praising her for her selfless Mommy Martyrdom as though she is the first parent ever to go through this.  And, of course, she is also hoping for gift cards and cash.  I expect we'll be seeing a post in a day or two lamenting the tremendous expenses they've incurred and wondering how they will ever be able to pay the bills.  She keeps mentioning the PO box because SHE wants mail, preferably stuffed with  $$$$$.

Edited November 11, 2019 by doodlebug

[galaxychaser]

Yes all Sierra wants is $$$. She didn’t even mention the kids name. 

She did not thank the doctors and nurses either. 

[Chicklet]

Do they even have insurance? I mean 7 kids and no insurance seems impossible to me but I'm not Sierra thank goodness. Ok, to be real, 7 kids seems impossible and nearly insane, but that's just me. Their cult beliefs are unpossible to me also.

This sounds about a $20,000 hospitalization to begin with. And that's crazy too but that's America.

Edited November 11, 2019 by Chicklet
ack no SDRT for me

[Minivanessa]

51 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Yes all Sierra wants is $$$. She didn’t even mention the kids name. 

She did not thank the doctors and nurses either. 

Just what I was thinking. Especially about the baby's name. My SM feeds aren't heavy with young mother and baby content but I do have friends and family in that stage of life, and I've seen plenty of posts about tiny babies and little children who are very sick, in the hospital, etc. And FFS, every damned one of those posts names the child. It's ABOUT the child. Whether it's "pray for our little Freddie as he fights to live," or "we are so thankful that our tiny Chloe is breathing more easily today," or "I got to hold our sweet little Tanner in the hospital today." 

I do not remember any mother in such a situation posting anything that was all about her and didn't mention her baby's name.

Maybe Sierra didn't realize that she did it, I'm sure she was stressed. I'm editing this post because I'm thinking about how seriously ill her child is, and on reflection I regret speaking so harshly about any mother in her current circumstances.

I'm so sorry her child is so ill. I hope he survives and thrives. But that post is disturbing in its self-centeredness. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Jeeves

[galaxygirl76]

I can see Nurie ending up in a Lady Di wedding monstrosity. 

[doodlebug]

25 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Do they even have insurance? I mean 7 kids and no insurance seems impossible to me but I'm not Sierra thank goodness. Ok, to be real, 7 kids seems impossible and nearly insane, but that's just me. Their cult beliefs are unpossible to me also.

This sounds about a $20,000 hospitalization to being with. And that's crazy too but that's America.

Sierra's husband has a real job in a furniture store as I recall, so they may have actual health insurance.  And, if they don't, with 7 kids, the ones under 4, at least, should be eligible for Medicaid.

$20,000 would be low, at least twice that, I suspect.

[louannems]

15 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said:

I can see Nurie ending up in a Lady Di wedding monstrosity. 

Yes, but the problem is the Rod's are poor as church mice.  The whole wedding will need to be grifted.  I can see a thrifted wedding dress for Nurie (which she already has; Jill bought her one when she was 14!), a potluck supper, free church and fellowship hall for the service and reception since they are members, and using existing December decorations.

Edited to add:. But of course Jill will have a new overthetop dress, probably white!

Edited November 11, 2019 by louannems

[Minivanessa]

1 hour ago, doodlebug said:

If she did have a speech impediment, it would never have been diagnosed and treated since Mama does all the schoolin' and the kids have very little contact with anyone outside the family.  As others have noted, Tim speaks oddly, too, and it is probably a combination of their isolated upbringing and  nerves from being taped.

I expect Jill to announce any day that Nurie has either begged Mama and Chubby Hubby to renew their vows alongside her and Nathan or she has tearfully implored Mama to be her matron of honor because she is just her bestest friend in the whole wide world.  And, I fully expect Jill to be dressed totally over the top and inappropriately for the wedding to draw attention to herself.   She'll either find a wedding gown that is bigger and pouffier than Nurie's, or she'll go the Southern belle route, complete with parasol covered with flowers.

Well, the baby is obviously much too young to care about Get Well cards, but his illness isn't about him, is it?  And people can reply online to her sending good wishes, but good wishes won't pay for anyChik-Fil-A will they? Sierra is undoubtedly fishing for mail for herself, praising her for her selfless Mommy Martyrdom as though she is the first parent ever to go through this.  And, of course, she is also hoping for gift cards and cash.  I expect we'll be seeing a post in a day or two lamenting the tremendous expenses they've incurred and wondering how they will ever be able to pay the bills.  She keeps mentioning the PO box because SHE wants mail, preferably stuffed with  $$$$$.

@doodlebug, Two thirds of that post deserves the "laugh" reaction and the last part is just so sad. You nailed all the subjects, IMO.

I hope that some psychology grad student somewhere is tracking all of JillR's SM posts and activities for a project or thesis, because in my inexpert opinion, that woman is a serious walking CASE of something in the personality disorder line. I think narcissism is a main ingredient. For SM watchers, JillR is just the gift that keeps on giving. For her kids, she's still The One around whom the universe revolves, the World's Best Mostest Wonderful Mother We Are Blessed to Belong To. And to CPS, she's probably always going to be the one who got away, dancing on the line separating neglect from just exercising her freedom of religion in the rearing of her kids. I hope to hell those kids are never beaten but in my darker moments I wouldn't bet against it.

[Minivanessa]

17 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said:

I can see Nurie ending up in a Lady Di wedding monstrosity. 

3 minutes ago, louannems said:

Yes, but the problem is the Rod's are poor as church mice.  The whole wedding will need to be grifted.  I can see a thrifted wedding dress for Nurie (which she already has; Jill bought her one when she was 14!), a potluck supper, free church and fellowship hall for the service and reception since they are members, and using existing December decorations.

Isn't the Diana style wedding dress is so passé? I know there are lots of over the top wedding dresses now, but I'd think that you can probably find a used Diana style dress going cheap. Later in her life Diana herself cringed about that dress. It was definitely a teenager's romantic fantasy choice, c. 1981. 

But I'm intrigued that Jill bought Nurie a wedding dress 4 years ago. Does anybody know what it looks like? 

I'm loving the fashion snark here about this. Go, snarkers! 😂

[GeeGolly]

4 hours ago, Jeeves said:

@doodlebug, Two thirds of that post deserves the "laugh" reaction and the last part is just so sad. You nailed all the subjects, IMO.

I hope that some psychology grad student somewhere is tracking all of JillR's SM posts and activities for a project or thesis, because in my inexpert opinion, that woman is a serious walking CASE of something in the personality disorder line. I think narcissism is a main ingredient. For SM watchers, JillR is just the gift that keeps on giving. For her kids, she's still The One around whom the universe revolves, the World's Best Mostest Wonderful Mother We Are Blessed to Belong To. And to CPS, she's probably always going to be the one who got away, dancing on the line separating neglect from just exercising her freedom of religion in the rearing of her kids. I hope to hell those kids are never beaten but in my darker moments I wouldn't bet against it.

I really don't think JillR is diagnosable. Some folks are just selfish, entitled assholes. The Bible supposedly supports her grifting. But she might have a scoosh of narcissism and histrionics. 

But I bet JillR spends a fair amount of time worrying how they'll pay utilities and buy groceries. Grifters can only grift so much.

Edited November 11, 2019 by GeeGolly

[TresGatos]

On 11/9/2019 at 7:51 PM, ginger90 said:

The video quality was pretty bad. Screenshots:

Jill wouldn’t shut up. At one point she talked over Nurie.

It looks like Nathan is doing the Time Warp again!

[Chicklet]

Those two look so awkward it's painful. 

[doodlebug]

1 hour ago, Jeeves said:

Isn't the Diana style wedding dress is so passé?

Have you seen the makeup and hairstyles Jill foists upon her daughters?  She's trapped in the 80's stylewise, so a big 'ole Princess Diana cupcake dress is just what she'd want.

[Rabbittron]

1 hour ago, louannems said:

Edited to add:. But of course Jill will have a new overthetop dress, probably white!

With a matching cathedral veil

[MargeGunderson]

Interesting that Sierra has a nanny. 

[Fuzzysox]

3 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said:

I can see Nurie ending up in a Lady Di wedding monstrosity. 

Or a Gypsy Wedding reject dress.

Who else is going to brake out their tinfoil dress for this illustrious event?  

[CalicoKitty]

7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

1. Wedding dress for Nuri. 2. Mother of the bride dress for JillR. 3. Bridesmaid dress. 4. Flower Girl dress.

@GEEGOLLY, you nailed this.  You need to offer your services as their wedding planner.  Notice that even the model in the pink creation does not look happy.

[DangerousMinds]

35 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

Interesting that Sierra has a nanny. 

How can they possibly afford this?

[Bewitched]

40 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

Interesting that Sierra has a nanny. 

The nanny is Sierra's mom (her IG post clarifies it).   Nanny was my name for my grandmother so I don't know if her kids also use that name instead of Grandma or if Sierra just wanted it to sound like they had a paid caregiver.  

[Rabbittron]

1 hour ago, Fuzzysox said:

Or a Gypsy Wedding reject dress.

Who else is going to brake out their tinfoil dress for this illustrious event?  

I just braved the snow and brought my tin foil gown to the dry cleaners.

[ChocolateAddict]

Y'all SEVERELY underestimate Jill. She locked down that job literally years ago when PRECIOUS Nurie asked her to be her Matron of Honour at their vow renewal. No doubt Jill will make sure that Nurie is the centre of attention at this BLESSED event by wearing white, singing at the ceremony and being in absolutely every photo of the SWEET couple. Bonus points if there is a couple's photo of Nurie and Tim and Jill talks about her wedding fifty thousand times.

I'd put money on her asking the M kids to be flower girls/ring bearers because there is no way Anna is being a bridesmaid. 

This post is from September 2017 

Edited November 11, 2019 by ChocolateAddict

[Minivanessa]

OMG, good old JillR. She's right up there with Teddy Roosevelt in need for attention. TR's daughter Alice famously said that he "always wanted to be the corpse at every funeral, the bride at every wedding and the baby at every christening.”

[farmgal4]

17 hours ago, Annb67 said:

Does Nurie have a speech problem. Her voice is so...so...WEIRD.

I mentioned her voice back a few pages ago.  She has this sort of breathless-sounding, somewhat high-pitched, weird voice.  I noticed it for the first time when she was showing her collection of homemade jewelry on a FB video.  I don’t know if that’s her normal speaking voice or if she only uses it on videos, but it would get on my last nerve if I had to listen to it everyday.  Poor Nathan.

[laurakaye]

This might be a stupid question, but do these poor kids just sit around and think about the best way to get through the day by demonstrating how they live to serve their mother?  Is this how they manage to get a bigger slice of the pie - literally - by being the kid that puts mommy on the highest pedestal?  Because it seems that the crap that Jill writes, she either writes it first and demands that her kids follow her script, or she (or her nutjob husband) drop anvil-like suggestions on the kids about some way to shine a spotlight on Jill, and then Jill acts stunned that her children are just so darn thoughtful and crafts a social media post around that.

I don't know, it's very weird and unsettling.

[farmgal4]

6 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Just what I was thinking. Especially about the baby's name. My SM feeds aren't heavy with young mother and baby content but I do have friends and family in that stage of life, and I've seen plenty of posts about tiny babies and little children who are very sick, in the hospital, etc. And FFS, every damned one of those posts names the child. It's ABOUT the child. Whether it's "pray for our little Freddie as he fights to live," or "we are so thankful that our tiny Chloe is breathing more easily today," or "I got to hold our sweet little Tanner in the hospital today." 

I do not remember any mother in such a situation posting anything that was all about her and didn't mention her baby's name.

Maybe Sierra didn't realize that she did it, I'm sure she was stressed. I'm editing this post because I'm thinking about how seriously ill her child is, and on reflection I regret speaking so harshly about any mother in her current circumstances.

I'm so sorry her child is so ill. I hope he survives and thrives. But that post is disturbing in its self-centeredness. 

It’s always been more than obvious that Sierra believes herself to be quite special.

[MamaMax]

On 11/10/2019 at 8:45 AM, BigBingerBro said:

Perhaps they sold the house partly so they could have cash for Nurie's wedding?  I'm not looking forward to all of the wedding planning madness.

No way. I would bet Jill only spends her money on herself. The kids get the grifted goods and leftovers. I wouldn't be surprised to see Nurie wearing Jills "renewal" wedding dress while Jill gets a new Matron of honor gown.  She will gush about how Nurie ASKED her to wear her DRESS because it was so Severely Modest and she wants to be JUST LIKE her Momma!!!!!!!!

[Chicklet]

Oh I might just pray that they livestream this clusterfluck of a wedding. This might make the Duggars, and Cilla and David weddings look mainstream.

[Zella]

44 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

This might be a stupid question, but do these poor kids just sit around and think about the best way to get through the day by demonstrating how they live to serve their mother?  Is this how they manage to get a bigger slice of the pie - literally - by being the kid that puts mommy on the highest pedestal?  Because it seems that the crap that Jill writes, she either writes it first and demands that her kids follow her script, or she (or her nutjob husband) drop anvil-like suggestions on the kids about some way to shine a spotlight on Jill, and then Jill acts stunned that her children are just so darn thoughtful and crafts a social media post around that.

I don't know, it's very weird and unsettling.

My guess--based on my experience with dysfunctional families--is the kids are very well-trained and know (whether instinctively or consciously) that they have to kiss Jill's ass for anything and they behave accordingly. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they compete with each other to see who can praise Mommy the most and even if there is some resentment among them over whoever is the best at blowing sunshine up Mommy's ass. They very well may not even be aware of this dynamic, but it seems such a central aspect of dealing with Jill I am sure they all pick up on it when they are quite young, even if they are unable to recognize how fucked up it is or even even be aware that this dynamic is present in the house. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Zella

[Minivanessa]

4 minutes ago, Zella said:

My guess--based on my experience with dysfunctional families--is the kids are very well-trained and know (whether instinctively or consciously) that they have to kiss Jill's ass for anything and they behave accordingly. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they compete with each other to see who can praise Mommy the most and even if there is some resentment among them over whoever is the best at blowing sunshine up Mommy's ass. They very well may not even be aware of this dynamic, but it seems such a central aspect of dealing with Jill I am sure they all pick up on it when they are quite young, even if they are unable to recognize how fucked up it is. 

I think you really nailed it. Kids do what they need to survive, in this case it's keeping Mama happy.  Sigh.

[Churchhoney]

3 hours ago, MargeGunderson said:

Interesting that Sierra has a nanny. 

Well, given how much Sierra is the star of the show even where her own kids are concerned, I'm not too surprised that she's managed to moan and guilt her mother into providing free (sorry -- I can't imagine it's otherwise) child care whenever she wants it. ....

After all, her mom only had three kids -- so surely she's got plenty of childcare energy left that she can turn to the godly duty of supporting her (no doubt) holiest daughter, the Mommy Martyr for Jesus. 

I guess I should be grateful that Sierra says a few complimentary words about her mom. She's at least pretending to be grateful and not treating her entirely like a Jslave. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Churchhoney

[galaxychaser]

Someone can get a PhD studying the dysfunctional Rod family.

My guess that’s not Nuri real voice. She speaks like that to sound godly/subservient to men.

[Temperance]

23 hours ago, Ocean Chick said:

I wonder if after the wedding poor second class Kaylee will move up from (and Kaylee) to plain old Kaylee. She won’t know how to handle the sudden promotion, I’m sure. 

I think Kaylee will remain just Kaylee, but one of the other girls may get promoted to being a replacement Nurie. Anybody from Kaylee to Janessa. 

As for Jill being the matron of honor, she does close to Nurie and it doesn't bother me too much. I'll reserve judgment for when Kaylee gets married and asks Jill to be the matron of honor. 

[farmgal4]

1 hour ago, Chicklet said:

Oh I might just pray that they livestream this clusterfluck of a wedding. This might make the Duggars, and Cilla and David weddings look mainstream.

Oh course they’ll livestream it, and I’ll be watching! (at least as much of it as I can stomach anyway)

[Annb67]

You know that JillR is going to sing...I feel it in my bones.