Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[BitterApple]

27 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

I've wondered about this. Michael and Brandon courted for a lifetime (in fundie circles). They started courting January 2014 and married August 2015. Benessa I could understand courting so long because Ben was so young. But Michael and Brandon teenagers. Plus weren't they "special friends" before Brandon officially asked her to court?

IIRC, they had met several years prior to starting a courtship. The only problem was Michael fell in love instantly while Brandon didn't even remember who she was until his family decided it was time to marry and "nudged" him in her direction. He was also in school at the time and was pretty adamant about not getting engaged until after he graduated. 

[louannems]

18 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

He was the first one that came up for me. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010785102971

Thanks a lot!  When I was searching, I assumed the Jeramiahs pictured with kids were married.

He looks best with the kids.  Nurie will be blessed with a filled womb in no time!

I agree their future kids will need lots of dental work.

[Punkadoo]

You all see Jeremiah Johnson, all I see is Chet from Weird Science. 

[floridamom]

I think Brandon would have been quite happy remaining "special friends" with Michaela...emphasis on FRIENDS. The guy, for whatever reason, just didn't seem to be excited about getting married. It was Michaela who held all of the enthusiasm.

[flyingdi]

I think Brandon, at heart, is truly a loner.  Nothing wrong with that.  I also think, having no idea how many siblings Brandon has, he is overwhelmed by the Bates family.  I get the feeling Brandon is not a noise person.

Edited October 20, 2017 by flyingdi

[PikaScrewChu]

14 hours ago, BitterApple said:

IIRC, they had met several years prior to starting a courtship. The only problem was Michael fell in love instantly while Brandon didn't even remember who she was until his family decided it was time to marry and "nudged" him in her direction. He was also in school at the time and was pretty adamant about not getting engaged until after he graduated. 

Yeah because I remember Brandon being talked about incessantly before there was even a courtship announced.

I'm guessing he went the David Waller route of getting married because he had to.

[flyingdi]

I know Brandon pings a lot of people's gaydar but I don't see him that way.  I quite honestly don't see Brandon being attracted to either sex or enjoying anything physical at all.

[BitterApple]

7 minutes ago, flyingdi said:

I know Brandon pings a lot of people's gaydar but I don't see him that way.  I quite honestly don't see Brandon being attracted to either sex or enjoying anything physical at all.

I agree. I definitely don't think he's gay either. I think he was perfectly happy being single and probably would've married in his early 30s if it weren't for the cultural pressure pushing him to get hitched fairly young. 

[Absolom]

Plus Brandon seems shy and not infatuated with being on camera.  He's going to appear standoffish because of that no matter how he feels inside.

[flyingdi]

I just see Brandon and Michael both after sex being like, "Eh, is that what the fuss is all about?  Well, I guess it'll give us a baby."

[Genevrier]

On 10/20/2017 at 0:42 PM, flyingdi said:

I know Brandon pings a lot of people's gaydar but I don't see him that way.  I quite honestly don't see Brandon being attracted to either sex or enjoying anything physical at all.

Well, that might explain why she is not pregnant yet. Did anyone remember to give them the “Legos Talk?” ?

[TeeMo]

22 hours ago, flyingdi said:

I just see Brandon and Michael both after sex being like, "Eh, is that what the fuss is all about?  Well, I guess it'll give us a baby."

I am not so sure about that when it comes to Michael. I remember on the episode about their honeymoon they had some afternoon activity and then were trying to decide the rest of their day and Michael was pretty adament about thinking they should "go back to their room for a bit" and she could not hide her big goofy grin about it. Brandon didn't seem to care one way or the other. 

[flyingdi]

I also think now that half of Michael's looks at her touchy feely sisters were jealousy and half were, "Stop touching Brandon, guys, you know he doesn't like to be touched!"

[floridamom]

My former husband didn't like to be touched either. Not a good thing for a married couple. If this is true of Brandon, this is not a good relationship thing for Michaela. She may begin to feel rejected by her husband as she seems to be a 'touchy feely' person. Not a good combo going on over there.

[Scarlett45]

15 minutes ago, floridamom said:

My former husband didn't like to be touched either. Not a good thing for a married couple. If this is true of Brandon, this is not a good relationship thing for Michaela. She may begin to feel rejected by her husband as she seems to be a 'touchy feely' person. Not a good combo going on over there.

Yeah if someone's primary love language is "physical touch" and their spouse isn't a naturally affectionate person (I am NOT, that's my last love language) that may cause problems. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yeah if someone's primary love language is "physical touch" and their spouse isn't a naturally affectionate person (I am NOT, that's my last love language) that may cause problems. 

Yup...my languages are physical touch and verbal confirmation (compliments and such), which my husband tends to brush off personally and not give out easily. His are hard work (which I certainly appreciate, but don't naturally see as a loving gesture) and generosity, as in buying gifts that I don't need and would much rather save the money on. Amazing that  we'e been together going on 34 years!

[lianau]

Coming back to Paine baby 3 , Everly Hope does not get along with Paine , to many Ps . Everly Hopaine  .

[PikaScrewChu]

On 10/20/2017 at 0:42 PM, flyingdi said:

I know Brandon pings a lot of people's gaydar but I don't see him that way.  I quite honestly don't see Brandon being attracted to either sex or enjoying anything physical at all.

Yeah I don't think he's gay. It seems like a case when you're working for IBLP/ATI you have to project some sort of family image. Even though Gothard himself was not married or had children.

[andromeda331]

I don't think Brandon's gay either I agree he seems just not interested in marriage. I don't think he ever wanted to get married. Michael is the opposite. She was definitely way more into him and so happy to be with him. He never seems happy to be around Michael's siblings although to be fair that probably would be my reaction too. Seeing how the Bates siblings behaved in their grandparents' house and Alyssa's I wouldn't want to be around them either.

[DangerousMinds]

8 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

Yeah I don't think he's gay. It seems like a case when you're working for IBLP/ATI you have to project some sort of family image. Even though Gothard himself was not married or had children.

I was just thinking the same. Got hard was never married, so why the need for everyone else to be?

[GeeGolly]

10 hours ago, lianau said:

Coming back to Paine baby 3 , Everly Hope does not get along with Paine , to many Ps . Everly Hopaine  .

Yes, and the word hope before pain just doesn't quite work either. If they Everly Hope for Paine it should be directed at Derick's Twittering fingers.

[Jynnan tonnix]

41 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Yes, and the word hope before pain just doesn't quite work either. If they Everly Hope for Paine it should be directed at Derick's Twittering fingers.

Or just Ever Paine. Paine is a rather unfortunate last name in that so many uncomplimentary things can be done with it, but that just seems as though they didn't quite think it through.

Edited October 22, 2017 by Jynnan tonnix

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said:

I was just thinking the same. Got hard was never married, so why the need for everyone else to be?

So they'd produce a second and then a third generation of cowed, deluded brainwashees for him to scam out of dollars, plus a lot of young girls in flip flops and long curly dos for him to strong-arm into serving as his "office assistants"? 

Edited October 22, 2017 by Churchhoney

[SoupyShoes]

 

 Alyssa is rocking those shorts!

Edited October 22, 2017 by SoupyShoes
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[BradandJanet]

Jeremiah Johnson likes Glenn Beck, Ted Cruz, and Russian Extreme Off road Trucks. He's homeschooled and knows how to tackle a giant, drippy, birthday sundae. Culturally, he should fit right in with the Rods. The job part could be a bit of a problem for him, however. Jill and David need cash for their date nights, vow renewal celebrations, and occasional meals for their growing pack of kids. Wonder how many people one construction worker's salary can support. I guess we'll find out. 

[BitterApple]

Jean shorts?! Isn't that a combination of the two deadliest sins in Fundiedom? 

Regarding Erin, I think Everly Hope is a pretty name but it doesn't pair well with Paine.

[ChiCricket]

14 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Jean shorts?! Isn't that a combination of the two deadliest sins in Fundiedom? 

Regarding Erin, I think Everly Hope is a pretty name but it doesn't pair well with Paine.

That's ok..as a lowly female, she'll be changing her last name if (when) she gets married.

[Churchhoney]

3 minutes ago, ChiCricket said:

That's ok..as a lowly female, she'll be changing her last name if (when) she gets married.

Let's just hope her father's pickier about her future spouse than he was about his sister's when they married her off to the anal rapist who continued throwing shade at his victim years after the fact. 

[GeeGolly]

5 minutes ago, ChiCricket said:

That's ok..as a lowly female, she'll be changing her last name if (when) she gets married.

Everly Hope Goldsmith - Walsh.

[Arwen Evenstar]

3 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

Jeremiah Johnson likes Glenn Beck, Ted Cruz, and Russian Extreme Off road Trucks. He's homeschooled and knows how to tackle a giant, drippy, birthday sundae. Culturally, he should fit right in with the Rods. The job part could be a bit of a problem for him, however. Jill and David need cash for their date nights, vow renewal celebrations, and occasional meals for their growing pack of kids. Wonder how many people one construction worker's salary can support. I guess we'll find out. 

 Nurie being married off means one more chicken leg for the feral brood to fight over like a pack of hyenas.  Or does that mean Chimpy now has an extra one to stuff in his fat face, while his brood salivates and looks on?

[riverblue22]

Well, the good news for Nurie is that her intended lives in Nashville and has a job.  I forget where the Rodriguii live but I don't think it is Tennessee.

[Arwen Evenstar]

54 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

Well, the good news for Nurie is that her intended lives in Nashville and has a job.  I forget where the Rodriguii live but I don't think it is Tennessee.

These Fundie parents do such a good job of filling their children with fear that even though they leave home, they never really leave home emotionally.   They are still living at home hundreds of miles away.

[doodlebug]

1 hour ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

 Nurie being married off means one more chicken leg for the feral brood to fight over like a pack of hyenas.  Or does that mean Chimpy now has an extra one to stuff in his fat face, while his brood salivates and looks on?

Nope, Chimpy is a breast man all the way, chicken legs are for kids.  Marrying off Nurie means more chocolate and other treats for him and JRod once the kids are in bed.

They live in West Virginia and I am sure they will be hopping in the old RV for Tennessee so Nurie and Jeremiah can feed them all for months at a time.

[pinkelephant3]

Alyssa and the lurch went on a cruise...she was wearing a tank top and real short shorts! Maybe she's in competition with jinger for the rebel role!

[xwordfanatik]

3 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Let's just hope her father's pickier about her future spouse than he was about his sister's when they married her off to the anal rapist who continued throwing shade at his victim years after the fact. 

I remember reading about this awhile back...who exactly are the Paines?  Duggar friends?  Like the Bates?

[Nysha]

On 10/19/2017 at 4:45 PM, Sew Sumi said:

I doubt the Keilens would adopt through the foster care system.

I adopted children through the foster care system and I hope to God that the Keilens do not go that route. Kids who have been abused, as most foster children who are released for adoption have been, do not need to be put into a Gothard or Gothard-lite home. Abused children need parents who understand that they will have to work for their children's love and respect, who are flexible and willing to use relationship-building discipline (such as Love & Logic or Foster Cline's attachment parenting), not "spare the rod, spoil the child" methods.

[floridamom]

At first I thought perhaps those nice shorts and t-shirt that Alyssa's wearing on the deck of the ship was something she could swim in. I hope the cruise line informed her that clothing is not allowed in the pool; only normal swimwear allowed. Did her husband remove his tank top when swimming? I see he's wearing a normal guys bathing suit. I hope they told him to remove his top if he was in the pool also. Perhaps that will reinforce to the Websters just how unusual and odd their upbringing has been. I can swim in a very modest one piece bathing suit with no problem, and I do have one. A little ruffle goes a lot way at my age.

[Absolom]

Alyssa has been seen in regular one piece swim suits.  I don't think there is a problem with those two knowing about appropriate swim apparel.

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, xwordfanatik said:

I remember reading about this awhile back...who exactly are the Paines?  Duggar friends?  Like the Bates?

They're high muckety-mucks in the Gothard empire. Dad, Doc Paine, has been on the Gothard board, so he's been an enabler of Bill's antics for some time. They have 10 kids. Chad's married to Erin Bates, as you see. And Tabitha, the oldest, was the Duggs' tutor for a while. Until her various umbrellas of protection (father, mother, brothers, etc.) folded up and left her under the leaky umbrella of the creepy unrepentant sex offender. 

 https://iblp.org/about-iblp/corporate-information/board-directors

http://heresyintheheartland.blogspot.com/2014/02/who-is-institute-in-basic-life.html

http://www.freejinger.org/topic/28703-tabitha-paine-tim-robertson-engagement-includes-sexual-assault-discussion/?page=2

http://thepainefamblog.blogspot.com/2017/04/chad-and-erin-attended-wedding.html

[xwordfanatik]

Truly horrifying.  

So in their fucked-up belief system, marrying a sex-offender is better than remaining single?  

SICK.

[Sew Sumi]

Well, we've seen with Joshley how easily they are "forgiven" of any sin, as long as they repent. Who knows if they're sincere? 

Do we even know if Robertson served time? I know he pled guilty to avoid a trial but forget details beyond that.

[Fuzzysox]

2 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

I remember reading about this awhile back...who exactly are the Paines?  Duggar friends?  Like the Bates?

The Paines are just another fundie family that follow Gothard.

Erin Bates is married to Chad Paine.

[Turquoise]

5 hours ago, riverblue22 said:

Well, the good news for Nurie is that her intended lives in Nashville and has a job.  I forget where the Rodriguii live but I don't think it is Tennessee.

Holy crap...I live in Nashville. We don't need the Invasion of the Rodriguii.

[Misslindsey]

On Instagram Alyssa and Whitney are seen wearing pants in some photos. So they might dabble in pants wearing when not on television. I know Whitney has dressed her daughter in pants. I think Alyssa has as well, but am not positive.

[birkenstock]

Wasn't Alyssa in pants in one episode of Bringing Up Bates? It was a Florida update and she was at a baseball game or practice with John's side of the family? She's never addressed her wardrobe change on camera but is unapologetic on instagram about wearing jeans and has a few pictures of her daughters in pants. 

[Sew Sumi]

Yes, Alyssa wore pants on a couple episodes of BUB, but at HER home. I  know she did it in front of her siblings, but can't remember if she had the balls to wear them in front of her parents. 

They just got back from a cruise with John's family. Check this out. 

[SMama]

No children?

[mynextmistake]

On 10/22/2017 at 7:34 AM, Churchhoney said:

Let's just hope her father's pickier about her future spouse than he was about his sister's when they married her off to the anal rapist who continued throwing shade at his victim years after the fact. 

Wait, what?

[Arwen Evenstar]

2 hours ago, mynextmistake said:

Wait, what?

Her sister, Erin’s father in law married off his 31 year old daughter, Tabitha, to a 41 year old dude convicted of anally raping his roommate”s girlfriend who also lived with them. Story was, they were drunk or high abd boyfriend was out, and he poked her in the butt and she was having none of it.  He got some sort of a plea deal where he did little or no time, was on ornatiin thereafter and had to register as a sex offender.  I don’t remember all the deets, but that’s the long and short of it.  He then found Jesus, was forgiven and embraced by the church community , but still impugns this girl and never apologized to her. I’m all for people turning their lives around, but make it right for your victim, instead of blaming her because you couldn’t keep your dick in your pants.

 I guess in their world, marrying someone like that is preferable to being single all one’s  life.  So for his reward, he gets to marry a sweet, never been kissed until her wedding day virgin.  We’ve heard nothing about how they’re doing.  I pray for her sake he treats her right. He’s creepy, oily, and smug.

[mynextmistake]

52 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Her sister, Erin’s father in law married off his 31 year old daughter, Tabitha, to a 41 year old dude convicted of anally raping his roommate”s girlfriend who also lived with them. Story was, they were drunk or high abd boyfriend was out, and he poked her in the butt and she was having none of it.  He got some sort of a plea deal where he did little or no time, was on ornatiin thereafter and had to register as a sex offender.  I don’t remember all the deets, but that’s the long and short of it.  He then found Jesus, was forgiven and embraced by the church community , but still impugns this girl and never apologized to her. I’m all for people turning their lives around, but make it right for your victim, instead of blaming her because you couldn’t keep your dick in your pants.

 I guess in their world, marrying someone like that is preferable to being single all one’s  life.  So for his reward, he gets to marry a sweet, never been kissed until her wedding day virgin.  We’ve heard nothing about how they’re doing.  I pray for her sake he treats her right. He’s creepy, oily, and smug.

Oh my God. How can anyone encourage their daughter to marry a sex offender? How fucked up would your belief system have to be to say "yeah, honey, he did rape that girl up the ass but that was then and he's found Jesus now, so you just go pick out a pretty dress and your mom and I will make sure there's plenty of snack mix for the reception?" 

I mean, I have a 2-year-old daughter. I can't even imagine. These people are all such useless parents and human beings. Every last one of them. Michelle, Jim Bob, the Kellers, Gil and Kelly Bates, Josh, Jill, Jessa, Joy... their kids are all doomed. What a horrible world they live in. What a horrible thing to do to their kids.