Bethenny Frankel: Skinny Girl

[ScoobieDoobs]

I suspect she realized having a small child in SoHo ain't so great.  And while Tribeca is a great neighborhood, she's probably got too many bad memories over there to consider moving back.  I would bet she's looking closer to the park on either the East Side or West.  Townhouses like Sonja's don't come cheap -- especially near the park (and Sonja's is kinda nowhere near the park, it's on top of a garage & it's tiny compared to almost every other townhouse nearby).  The next step up for her would be a townhouse near the park.  Can she afford it on her own?  Cuz buying in with this guy sounds like trouble to me.  Bethenny & relationships don't mix well or last long.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Wow, wow, wow-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3824065/Bethenny-Frankel-lists-sleek-NYC-apartment-shared-ex-Jason-Hoppy-cool-6-95m.html

The place looks great.  Is it gonna sell for 7 mil?  Kinda doubt it, but it's possible.  She did say on Wendy the place is worth 7 mil with what she did to it.  Guess she'll see if it really is worth that much.  But I give her that wherever she goes, it's sell, sell, sell -- for SG or for her properties.

[QuinnM]

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The next step up for her would be a townhouse near the park.  Can she afford it on her own?  Cuz buying in with this guy sounds like trouble to me.  Bethenny & relationships don't mix well or last long.

She's looking in the same neighborhood.  I suspect she is still too burned about the apartment issue with her ex to share with anyone.  But who knows? She's looking alone with Fredrik, from Million Dollar Listing.  He was the one that brokered her current place. Her place is about $2.5 and the other one is $7.  So she can obviously afford Sonja's.  Dang, that would be fun.  If she bought Sonja's, gutted it.  But I doubt she'll go that far uptown when Brynn's school is downtown.

[breezy424]

Beth will stay downtown because she's 'cool'.  I do find it a little weird that she's looking for a new place already.  Isn't she the $125 million dollar 'girl'?  So why didn't she get what she wanted when she bought the post divorce, homeless no more, place?  Maybe she's not a rich as has been reported.  Take the 'maybe' out IMO.

Heck, I would never buy a home for the amount she paid in which the master bedroom looks like a basement room with those high little windows.  Heck, I wouldn't want to live in that home or the one she's selling.  Too sterile.  Too white.  I'm sure many would disagree. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

As far as townhouses go (I mean cost), don't go by Sonja's.  Sheesh, there so many negatives!  The location is so-so (altho the block is rather nice), it's right next-door to a 24/7 EXTREMELY busy garage, there's major construction going on (which will probably continue for years) directly across the street, and the interior & exterior badly need major renovations.  When asked what it's worth on WWHL, Fredrik quickly said 5 mil.  He'd know.  That's very, very low for a townhouse in Manhattan these days (anywhere, let alone a primo location).

I can't imagine choice of school for Brynn being a reason she's only staying in SoHo.  Guess it's possible, but why?  So many great schools uptown.

As far as what she could afford?  Well, SJP sold one of her townhouses near Lower Fifth for about 18 mil maybe 6 months ago.  Can Bethenny afford that kinda coin on her own?  Me doubts it.  That 100 mil figure thrown around was always thought to be way over-inflated.

Gosh, I would so love for Bethenny to move back up the Upper East Side.  Why?  She actually was pretty funny commenting on the weirdly alien-looking frozen-faced women there.

Edited October 6, 2016 by ScoobieDoobs

[zoeysmom]

11 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Beth will stay downtown because she's 'cool'.  I do find it a little weird that she's looking for a new place already.  Isn't she the $125 million dollar 'girl'?  So why didn't she get what she wanted when she bought the post divorce, homeless no more, place?  Maybe she's not a rich as has been reported.  Take the 'maybe' out IMO.

Heck, I would never buy a home for the amount she paid in which the master bedroom looks like a basement room with those high little windows.  Heck, I wouldn't want to live in that home or the one she's selling.  Too sterile.  Too white.  I'm sure many would disagree. 

Remember Bethenny's Skinnygirl sale involved a 50% partner, so at best she saw $62.5 million before taxes.  Oh and then there was the lawsuit with her former agent. 

I never understood why she planned it so there were windows in her closet-oh that's right it was suppose to be the man cave, and then the nursery and finally her closet.

It looks like there was affair amount of updating to the place.  The marble is beautiful. 

I think the Skinnygirl bar was a good thing to remove.  http://www.bravotv.com/bethenny-ever-after/season-3/videos/bethennys-new-apartment

Notice in the video, their wedding book-the cover photo has the top of Jason's head cut off.

[QuinnM]

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As far as townhouses go (I mean cost), don't go by Sonja's.

I just think there could be a 2-3 season arch of Bethenny tearing out everything and renovating to an all white space and Sonja clutching her pearls and crying like someone just married her friend with benefits.  You know, it just occured to me.  Bethenny's white sterile aesthetic is downtown.  Tha's why she can't buy a nice pre-war on the UES. 

[film noire]

13 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Heck, I would never buy a home for the amount she paid in which the master bedroom looks like a basement room with those high little windows.  Heck, I wouldn't want to live in that home or the one she's selling.  Too sterile.  Too white.  I'm sure many would disagree. 

In apartments like that, the scale always feels off to me -- the proportions feel like either a hotel lobby or (if really badly done) the space becomes weirdly reminiscent of a high end mall.  

[chick binewski]

For those of us real estate porn lovers, NY Magazine has a CA-style renovation in mid-town. Hard to believe that living area started out as a plain white box.

OK, I get divorce is very tough for everyone. But you spend millions to marry, buy, renovate and split. Jason can't have the house. Bethenny won't stay in the house. So Bryn gets carted around from place to place? When you have means to make your child's life somewhat easier during a breakup why not take advantage of that? 

[zoeysmom]

We've seen Bethenny buy and design a home, we have seen her be homeless (except for her home in the Hamptons) so what is new about this part of her life?  She is selling two staged homes and buying and designing a new one?  Yawn.  About as exciting as new Skinnygirl drink flavor.   Sound like it might be a storyline for Million Dollar Listing New York.  Of course Sonja already used one of the guys to have her summer Hamptons party.

[WireWrap]

Bethenny's response to being "fired" from Sirius.   http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/real-housewives-of-nyc-star-be-61548.aspx

Maybe it was just a typo but notice where Bryn falls into her lists of reasons. Also, when did she get a deal with HSN? I checked their site and she is not listed at all. AND, she has "4 reality TV projects"? Where? LOL

[breezy424]

2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Bethenny's response to being "fired" from Sirius.   http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/real-housewives-of-nyc-star-be-61548.aspx

Maybe it was just a typo but notice where Bryn falls into her lists of reasons. Also, when did she get a deal with HSN? I checked their site and she is not listed at all. AND, she has "4 reality TV projects"? Where? LOL

A very different response from the 'I'll be back in September' doing her radio show.

She's got RHNY, some cooking show, and is probably trying to sell others. 

Oh, yeah, there's her daughter.

For me, Beth just is all over the place hoping that something 'big' will happen or stick again.  Nothing significant really has.  Failed talk show and return to RHNY.  Talk about swallowing your 'pride'.  Then the sirius show and now she's too busy.  Yeah, right.  Her chips and popcorn have disappeared from my supermarket. They have her small stock of protein bars on sale all the time.  Never seen the chocolate and her booze has been relegated from the end of the aisle to a small spot among all the other RTD products.  The shapewear is crap compared to Yummy by Heather Thomson. 

Yeah, she's making money but she's just not 'that', and 'that' is what means the most to her.

[izabella]

6 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

She is selling two staged homes and buying and designing a new one?  Yawn. 

Wait, let me guess...the new place will end up being all white, marble, and hard edges with lots of white furniture.  She'll have one room with barely there wallpaper and will call that A Pop of Color, plus a SG red accent here and there.  The entire design will give the appearance of sterile office parks and the feel of the inside of a refrigerator. 

Edited October 7, 2016 by izabella

[ScoobieDoobs]

17 hours ago, QuinnM said:

I just think there could be a 2-3 season arch of Bethenny tearing out everything and renovating to an all white space and Sonja clutching her pearls and crying like someone just married her friend with benefits.  You know, it just occured to me.  Bethenny's white sterile aesthetic is downtown.  Tha's why she can't buy a nice pre-war on the UES. 

Is there much that can be done with Sonja's townhouse?  I pass it every day on my way to the subway, so I can only judge from the outside, but I can kinda tell the ceilings are low.  I don't know much about renovations.  I know walls are easily busted out, but what about floors?  Can Bethenny turn Sonja's 4 story joint into a 2 story loft space?  Well, it would leave higher ceilings, but still tight space.  Honestly, even I sneer when I pass by Sonja's place.  Why?  Cuz the noisy construction across the street & that insanely busy garage next door, where cars always seem to be zooming in and out, is such a big turnoff to me.  If I'm not thrilled with it, Bethenny would surely never consider it.

Yeah, I agree that awful white look (sorry, I just hate it) is really downtown.  I was just walking along 7th Ave below 23rd, and looking up from the street I could spot tons of places in the newish buildings that had the same sorta shit goin' on.  Guess it's a thing?  So Bethenny's design sense, along with her "jokes" & wisecracks, ain't original, eh?  Still, while not my taste, I think both of her places look kinda chic, if unoriginal.

[QuinnM]

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Is there much that can be done with Sonja's townhouse? 

I always wondered why they bought it.  It was a purchase back when she was a Morgan.  It's a nice townhouse. Pretty typical of that era, nothing to special, garden, terraces, 4th floor apartment.  But like you say its next to that garage.  The construction might be new but that garage has always been there.  It might be very convenient if one had cars.  But I would love to Sonja come into money and get it back up to snuff.  Update and refurnish.

I find that white look so sterile.  Notice that in the bedrooms Bethenny has a lot of wallpaper.  They did add wood fronts to some of the kitchen cabinets.  So since it was updated for resale maybe that means that the white look is starting to go off trend.  The thing about that space that I found so odd was that all of the windows were at the edges.  That means that the living/dining actually has no windows.  Good decision to sell that, sell the temporary apartment (I never thought she meant to stay in that small space forever).  That's why I'm up for a reno story line.  I like that real estate pron.  I am fascinated by the class structure of location in NYC. 

I have a friend whose biggest issue in the divorce was that she could come out of it with the money to stay on the UES.  And then we met Dorinda who downsized after her husbands death but stayed on the UES.  That small condo with the two story closets yikes.  There are so many other neighborhoods where that money and monthly coverage would buy her 10 times that.  But I know she is not leaving UES.  So Bethenny is not buying in the UES.  That's not her hood.  And it's not Beensomeone's either.  She aint't moving uptown.

[Otherkate]

I've lived in Soho and UES and I would personally choose Soho any day of the week. It's totally personal preference. 

I'm redoing a house right now and the white trend is one of the most FRUSTRATING parts of trying to find inspiration and ideas. It's everywhere you look and I am SO sick of it. 

[zoeysmom]

7 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Is there much that can be done with Sonja's townhouse?  I pass it every day on my way to the subway, so I can only judge from the outside, but I can kinda tell the ceilings are low.  I don't know much about renovations.  I know walls are easily busted out, but what about floors?  Can Bethenny turn Sonja's 4 story joint into a 2 story loft space?  Well, it would leave higher ceilings, but still tight space.  Honestly, even I sneer when I pass by Sonja's place.  Why?  Cuz the noisy construction across the street & that insanely busy garage next door, where cars always seem to be zooming in and out, is such a big turnoff to me.  If I'm not thrilled with it, Bethenny would surely never consider it.

Yeah, I agree that awful white look (sorry, I just hate it) is really downtown.  I was just walking along 7th Ave below 23rd, and looking up from the street I could spot tons of places in the newish buildings that had the same sorta shit goin' on.  Guess it's a thing?  So Bethenny's design sense, along with her "jokes" & wisecracks, ain't original, eh?  Still, while not my taste, I think both of her places look kinda chic, if unoriginal.

Something happened with Sonja's townhouse-they paid $9 million for it and at best it will fetch $5 million.  For all the reason you cited it just seems Sonja's biggest issue is a bad location in a very good neighborhood.  Sonja's bathrooms and kitchen are on point, the rest feels musty or very caught in time.  I don't think she need to turn it into a white wonder wall less house.  I think the place is as good as it gets.  I just don't think anyone should take real estate from Sonja anytime soon.

I do believe Bethenny's next venture is in real estate.  Wouldn't it be nice if she and Frederick teamed up and had their own spin-off?  As long as she takes a sabbatical from RHONY.

[LIMOM]

Not a big fan of Sonja's neighborhood at all. I won't call it prime either but I am an UPWS girl anyways.

The only plus to me, is its proximity to Bloomies.

 I would have expected a Morgan to live on Park.

[ElDosEquis]

On ‎10‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 0:15 AM, breezy424 said:

Beth will stay downtown because she's 'cool'.  I do find it a little weird that she's looking for a new place already.  Isn't she the $125 million dollar 'girl'?  So why didn't she get what she wanted when she bought the post divorce, homeless no more, place?  Maybe she's not a rich as has been reported.  Take the 'maybe' out IMO.

Heck, I would never buy a home for the amount she paid in which the master bedroom looks like a basement room with those high little windows.  Heck, I wouldn't want to live in that home or the one she's selling.  Too sterile.  Too white.  I'm sure many would disagree. 

I fucking hate sterile - especially Architectural Digest sterile.

When I walk into a home that looks like no one lives in it, I want to walk out.

I like to see a newspaper or pile of mags - a pair of shoes next to the door - an ashtray on the table or a puzzle on the kitchen table.

[Ellee]

Yeah...well...I got nothing.  Just stopped to say Hi to everybody!  :D

[HunterHunted]

It's funny that everyone is talking about how much they don't like the white look because I feel like that's the only solution for Sonja's place. It's next to a parking garage, on the small side for the area (4500sq ft), and low ceilings. I would blow out the walls on the first and second floors. Open concept. Light walls. Maybe have bigger windows overlooking the yard. Try to be judicious in keeping some architectural details, but try to keep the crown molding and keep the fireplaces. I'd rip out her weird herringbone floors and just have plain wood for the first and second floors. There is a townhouse over on East 62nd that's for sale and reminds a little of Sonja's. I think they went a little too modern.

And the gardens, I would rip the guts out of it. I can tell the type of English country garden that she's alluding to, but the house isn't massive and the yard should feel like an extension of the living space. Her garden feels a little oppressive. I'd get rid the uneven stones and go with uniform pavers. I'd put most of the plants in boxes or pots. Anything to indicate that they aren't going to have to spend $20,000 just to be able to go outside.

I don't think Bethenny would ever get a townhouse. I think she likes the security of a doorman.

[Almost 3000]

I like B's staging in the unit that's now for sale, better than her original design. It looked so much more open.

Question: I don't remember all those windows in the common areas. Did she take out some walls?

[ElDosEquis]

42 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

I like B's staging in the unit that's now for sale, better than her original design. It looked so much more open.

Question: I don't remember all those windows in the common areas. Did she take out some walls?

I think she took out the husband and father........

[ScoobieDoobs]

Should Ms. Brutally Honest have been lookin' in a mirror when she called Lu a slut & ho & fuckdoll?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3829635/Bethenny-Frankel-s-sex-scene-90s-B-movie-Hollywood-Hills-90028-internet-howling.html

Or maybe she sees herself diff cuz she likes to have sex on water so that excuses her from such accusations?

[ElDosEquis]

15 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Should Ms. Brutally Honest have been lookin' in a mirror when she called Lu a slut & ho & fuckdoll?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3829635/Bethenny-Frankel-s-sex-scene-90s-B-movie-Hollywood-Hills-90028-internet-howling.html

Or maybe she sees herself diff cuz she likes to have sex on water so that excuses her from such accusations?

Well that puts her a little above Jesus Christ, he could only walk on water?

 

TV show - Husband +howling asshole -couth + excuses + fibroids -bloody pillow = God, am I stupid.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Any Bethenny fans wanna listen to that horribly shrill voice for an hour?  Give it a go & have a ball, but please report back.  I haven't the strength to listen to that voice & hear her bullshit . . .  er, excuse me, "brutally honest" crapola.

http://fortune.com/2016/10/10/bethenny-frankel-skinnygirl-fortune-unfiltered/

People gives a little peekie-poo into what she's blathering about-

http://people.com/tv/bethenny-frankel-reveals-new-bravo-television-show/

She may have a new show on Bravo or maybe not.  Sounds like nothing is definite yet, so I'd say she's merely puffing herself up, at best.

Edited October 11, 2016 by ScoobieDoobs

[NewDigs]

From the People article:

'Frankel, 45, also added, “We are selling a lot of different shows. I have a show called Food Porn that’s in its second season, so I’m a successful television producer off-camera, which is great. There’s another really kind of major show I’m about to start selling that I just remembered again, so that will be a successful leg of this business.”

Whaaa...?

And all that Food Porn show is pictures yanked from #foodporn.

What a producing genius. I think she also "branded" ClosetPorn and a couple of others. Wonder if they're as creative as her FoodPorn. Snooze.

[Mrs peel]

On ‎10‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 11:49 PM, izabella said:

Wait, let me guess...the new place will end up being all white, marble, and hard edges with lots of white furniture.  She'll have one room with barely there wallpaper and will call that A Pop of Color, plus a SG red accent here and there.  The entire design will give the appearance of sterile office parks and the feel of the inside of a refrigerator. 

Ah, now you ruined the surprise!  Darn.....

So she now can't manage a part-time job at Sirius because she has S-girl, HSN (what is she supposedly doing for them?  And that's periodic appearances, along with having others do all the serious work), tv projects that may or may not happen and her daughter.  It must be tough to not have to work, because there are loads of single mothers who manage way more than this each and every day.  In particular, assuming the S-girl staff is really a full-time staff, I strongly suspect they would get far more done if she isn't in the office all the time.  And they would handle the HSN stuff too.

I suspect this is all about hoping/knowing that one or more of the TV things comes through.  She'd rather have her face on TV than just her voice on the radio.

On moving away from Brynn's school, since they have joint custody, she can't unilaterally change the school.  Never mind that it would be extremely disruptive to a small child who has already had a ton of disruptions (not that I thing B would particularly care about that).

[QuinnM]

Ok, based on reading between the snapchat lines.  She is doing a luggage line for HSN based on carry on only with cute luggage tags and red quilted roller.  She is pitching something with Andy in LA.  She is piloting something else that has been filmed.  She has something else at Food Network where she has filmed a couple of times and it wouldn't be Food Porn since that is on the road.  She did do a 4-5 city eating thing all in a week as well.

And I agree about Brynn moving schools.  Both of the parents would have to agree since during those hours the commute for drop off in NYC could be an hour.  It would be crazy to have a drop off downtown and live uptown.

You know I want the apartment that they use for offices.  Just perfect for single in NYC.  But I don't know where it is.  I like the brick, decent living area and decent kitchen.

[Sai]

On 10/6/2016 at 4:49 PM, chick binewski said:

For those of us real estate porn lovers, NY Magazine has a CA-style renovation in mid-town. Hard to believe that living area started out as a plain white box.

OK, I get divorce is very tough for everyone. But you spend millions to marry, buy, renovate and split. Jason can't have the house. Bethenny won't stay in the house. So Bryn gets carted around from place to place? When you have means to make your child's life somewhat easier during a breakup why not take advantage of that? 

That place is gorgeous!

[Mrs peel]

23 hours ago, QuinnM said:

Ok, based on reading between the snapchat lines.  She is doing a luggage line for HSN based on carry on only with cute luggage tags and red quilted roller.  She is pitching something with Andy in LA.  She is piloting something else that has been filmed.  She has something else at Food Network where she has filmed a couple of times and it wouldn't be Food Porn since that is on the road.  She did do a 4-5 city eating thing all in a week as well.

And I agree about Brynn moving schools.  Both of the parents would have to agree since during those hours the commute for drop off in NYC could be an hour.  It would be crazy to have a drop off downtown and live uptown.

You know I want the apartment that they use for offices.  Just perfect for single in NYC.  But I don't know where it is.  I like the brick, decent living area and decent kitchen.

Cute luggage tags and one carry-on luggage piece?  Yeah, I'm exhausted just reading that, I can now understand why she couldn't keep a part-time job. <sarcasm off>

seriously, thanks for the info, but I don't see anything that would stop the radio gig.

[QuinnM]

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seriously, thanks for the info, but I don't see anything that would stop the radio gig.

Meh - if I was making good money with projects that allowed me to be flexible with when I had to have meetings etc. no way would I sign up for a gig that required to be in an office building every day. 

Ok and now because I am responsible for the Bethenny snap report.  She sold the big apartment in 1 day.  It's off the market.  So things we need to look for.  Do we see a tabloid report on Jason buying something?  We got one on him renting a one bedroom in the neighborhood.  Which I have to say I don't buy at all.  No one with a small child has a one bedroom apartment.  Do we see a tabloid report on Bethenny buying something better than her current windowless and the loft combined?  Stay tuned.  If she snaps it I'll report it.

In other social media news, I follow Dorinda on twitter.  I liked the pics and such in the Berkshires.  But this summer?  Nada.  One or two tweets on an event she's doing, one or two on the debates.  But not much.

[Baltimore Betty]

Bethenny is moving out of the apartment she bought/renovated at the start of the season?  You mean she will be homeless again? Oh no, poor Bethenny will be relegated to a hobo lifestyle with only the finest hotel suites at her disposal and her house in the Hamptons? 

Can we survive that again?

[QuinnM]

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Bethenny is moving out of the apartment she bought/renovated at the start of the season? 

The apartment that was sold yesterday is the one she bought when she was married.  The one tied up in the divorce.  But yes she does have her current place on the market.  It was staged for sale last week.  She also has been looking heavy with Fredrick Eklund at the beginning of summer but we haven't seen that lately.  That leads me to believe she has found a place and was just waiting for the money from the big loft.  Is she going to reno the new place.  That's probably a safe bet.  She has reno'd every place she's bought.  Is she going to be homeless?  No.  The lack of residence beyond the loft was a divorce thing.  She bought an apt after the court hearing on the loft.  So my guess is if her current small place sells before the new place is finished she'll rent something. 

[NewDigs]

6 hours ago, QuinnM said:

 But yes she does have her current place on the market.  It was staged for sale last week.  She also has been looking heavy with Fredrick Eklund at the beginning of summer but we haven't seen that lately. 

 Were Bravo cameras with them?

Please say no.

[QuinnM]

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 Were Bravo cameras with them?

Please say no.

Nope - she snapped some of the two of them in the car, various tabloids had them together and she tweeted apartment hunting again, etc.  The snaps were things like her in a hard hat or once she was half through hair and make up and ran downstairs in her building to look at a unit there. We (the interweb) were guessing that she would look to combine the two units.  We were against that due to the windowless problem.

[ScoobieDoobs]

She sold her joint in one day, eh?  Uh, anyone think Ms. Brutally Honest is throwing out a heap of bullshit -- yet again?  Oh heavens, nooooo!  Not Ms. Brutally Honest!

[QuinnM]

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She sold her joint in one day, eh?  Uh, anyone think Ms. Brutally Honest is throwing out a heap of bullshit -- yet again?  Oh heavens, nooooo!  Not Ms. Brutally Honest!

It was reported by the WSJ.  Both Fredrik and Bethenny were like, I guess we can announce it now.  So not bullshit at all.  I'm sure whoever bought it knew they wanted it for the last four years.  That building is well known and only the first buyers in have deeded parking.  It could be someone on the same floor that wants to expand.  Who knows but the WSJ picked up the story when the contract was legally filed.  So not bullshit.  Hersnap noted that there was some update to be done, not much heavy construction, lots of paint and paper.  Then staging like the week before the sale.

[jinjer]

I like that apartment.  Good windows.  Jay Z and Beyonce were in that building, so it's probably a decent location.  Deeded parking? Give me $7 million and deal me in.

[QuinnM]

Gosh, I can't believe I'm the first over.  Well ROL has the loan documents from Jason's loan on his bachelor pad.  So let's remember this is ROL.  But they do have the documents.  So kind of true but maybe not. 

Jason took out a big loan on his condo the week before the divorce was settled.  That means he didn't sell his pre marriage place.  That maybe he needed money because he wasn't getting what he needed in the divorce?  That maybe he just wanted to get equity out and doing it before the settlement was better financially?  I'm thinking that anyone that needs over $700K didn't make out like a bandit in the divorce.

[Almost 3000]

It may have been a float loan that he will refinance after the settlement. He wouldn't be able to get that kind of a loan to begin with if the ink wasn't dry on those divorce papers. Anyway, I don't go to ROL or The Inquisitr so whatever.

[glowbug]

My take is neither is 100% happy with the outcome. Bethenny's bitterness over it makes me think she paid out more than she wanted to but we know Jason didn't end up with everything he wanted either. The only ones that walked away happy were the lawyers on both sides.

[teapot]

25 minutes ago, glowbug said:

My take is neither is 100% happy with the outcome. Bethenny's bitterness over it makes me think she paid out more than she wanted to but we know Jason didn't end up with everything he wanted either. The only ones that walked away happy were the lawyers on both sides.

and all of us, because it's finally fucking over.

[Celia Rubenstein]

3 hours ago, QuinnM said:

Jason took out a big loan on his condo the week before the divorce was settled.  That means he didn't sell his pre marriage place.  That maybe he needed money because he wasn't getting what he needed in the divorce?  That maybe he just wanted to get equity out and doing it before the settlement was better financially?  I'm thinking that anyone that needs over $700K didn't make out like a bandit in the divorce.

That's what it looks like to me, too. I am not a financial planner but I don't know why someone would take out a big loan like that if he was about to receive a windfall in a divorce settlement.  Sounds to me like Jason had some hefty bills he needed to pay. 

He really should have settled things a long time ago and not eaten up so much in legal fees and getting in bed with that mysterious "investor." Bethenny has a huge income and could afford to play games.  But Jason couldn't.  That's what happens when you let yourself be blinded by greed and anger when you can't afford to lose.  Eventually the time comes to pay the piper and I guess for Jason, that means a big-ass loan to pay everyone involved what they are owed and keep a roof over his head.  

It's a good thing he held onto his old apartment and didn't sell it and co-mingle the funds in with their marital assets.  If he had, it wouldn't be there to take a loan against.  He might really have ended up back in PA living in his parents' basement.

[Otherkate]

5 hours ago, glowbug said:

My take is neither is 100% happy with the outcome. Bethenny's bitterness over it makes me think she paid out more than she wanted to but we know Jason didn't end up with everything he wanted either. The only ones that walked away happy were the lawyers on both sides.

And sadly that's exactly how it usually works out.

[Showthyme]

I wonder if the judge deducted the $10,000 a month alimony that Bethenny paid while they were separated from the divorce settlement. I think that something like that happened in the Betty and Dan Broderick case whereby the settlement was sizable but the judge deducted monies paid during the separation which left very little. Either way, Jason got paid a lot of money to go away and he still gets $10,000 a month or so for child support. I am no fan of Bethenny but I would be angry too each time that I had to write that check. 

Jason may have gotten the line of credit because his financial standing was better while married to Bethenny. It could have just been a strategic move to have the line of credit in place while not actually needing the money. 

[QuinnM]

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Jason may have gotten the line of credit because his financial standing was better while married to Bethenny. It could have just been a strategic move to have the line of credit in place while not actually needing the money

True.  Also the documents that had the judgement about the alimony being a mistake were some of the last public documents on the divorce.  It did state that it would be considered a debt against the final judgement.  Meaning, yes it would be paid back.  The other bit that was debt against final judgment was a large check Bethenny paid for Jason's lawyers.  So it is possible he ended with very little actual cash.  The last time it was public Bethenny was paying $13500 in child support.  So that's a decent amount.

However Jason is in the same position that millions of Betty Broderick's are.  The big wage earner goes on making money and flying private and taking fabulous vacations and buying big houses.  The other spouse not so much. 

[Nanny pants]

They were married for 2 years...just how long is the lower wage earner supposed to benefit???

[Almost 3000]

2 hours ago, Nanny pants said:

They were married for 2 years...just how long is the lower wage earner supposed to benefit???

Its not about the higher or lower wage but about maintenance for the child. Usually the lower wage spouse does OK in the short term but they need to get their act together.

[Bossa Nova]

Bethenney on her twitter criticizing protesters about the Trump win. Fuck her. White woman millionaire lashing out at others who have precious civil rights and equal rights in possible jeopardy.  Well, the richer you get ...empathy goes out the window.  I got mine so I get to be another sociopath ! Woo Hoo !

Uses freedom of speech (1st amendment) , to criticize others using freedom of speech. You go Skinny girl !

Edited November 11, 2016 by Bossa Nova