ProudMary November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 Regardless of the original St. Julien's contributions to Charleston and the glamorous, exciting world of fertilizers, St. Julien is still a ridiculous and pretentious name for a 21st century human baby - for a racehorse, okay; a new craft beer, fine; a canonized performer of miracles, no problem - but for the offspring of two reality TV c-list stars it's laughable. Seriously, am I the only one who laughed out loud when they read the name of the newest Ravenel? It's appropriate that a baby whose parents are so full of shit would be named after someone who was so fond of fertilizer. One of my brothers has long lamented the family name he was saddled with. I think I'll tell him this kid's name. It might make him feel better. You guys are cracking me up tonight! Great stuff! 1 Link to comment
zenme November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 Yes, the name certainly is pretentious. Especially for a disgraced former jailbird/cokehead, and a trashy Kiki. 2 Link to comment
Emme November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 I expected nothing less from these two. They are hellbent on tarnishing the "family name" (Calhoun, Ravenel, etc.) with their ridiculous exploits, but then go on and on about how vaunted and respected those same names are. My friend's husband is French (born and raised in France). They named their baby boy Julien. He's five now and I think it's a really cute name for him. No "St." however. I'm going to have to tell my friend they messed up! 1 Link to comment
Pachengala November 15, 2015 Share November 15, 2015 Regardless of the original St. Julien's contributions to Charleston and the glamorous, exciting world of fertilizers, St. Julien is still a ridiculous and pretentious name for a 21st century human baby - for a racehorse, okay; a new craft beer, fine; a canonized performer of miracles, no problem - but for the offspring of two reality TV c-list stars it's laughable. Seriously, am I the only one who laughed out loud when they read the name of the newest Ravenel? No no, you most certainly are not. It's a ridiculous name (though actually, it's brilliant for a craft beer. A stout, I think, would be catchy). but Kensington is terrible too. I think both names are Kathryn's influence, mostly because they seem so trashy and try-hard and she's SUCH a thirsty social climber. Also TRav seems like he's too drunk and/or checked out to care much what she names them. 4 Link to comment
MissMel November 15, 2015 Share November 15, 2015 I thought Dennis Ravenel would be a perfectly fine name for a young man. This is just trying too hard. Poor child is probably going to be called Julien by his mother and JR by his father. Nothing wrong with either of those names but come on. Pick one. Link to comment
ProudMary November 16, 2015 Share November 16, 2015 (edited) Tweet from Cooper:https://twitter.com/KCooperRayCHS/status/665988987220336640 K. Cooper Ray @KCooperRayCHS 8h8 hours ago South Carolina, USA#Polo in the #Lowcountry. #SouthernCharm for real. @kathryn_dennis back in the saddle. @ Limehouse… https://instagram.com/p/-HmlxaiTGq/ The Instagram link is video of Thomas playing polo, with Kathryn and Cooper in attendance. Edited November 16, 2015 by ProudMary 1 Link to comment
cooksdelight November 16, 2015 Author Share November 16, 2015 I love Cooper, I follow him on Facebook. He is a big part of the social scene in Charleston, which is why he was brought in, I think. As Patricia said, when she needs a gentleman escort, she calls him. He seems like a very funny, friendly guy and I'd love to hang out with him at JD's restaurant sometime. Link to comment
Babyfoot November 16, 2015 Share November 16, 2015 I loved Cooper, too, until I unofficially followed him on social media. I think he's an insufferable snob. I myself find snobs amusing (Hi Whitney! Hi Patricia! Love you! Mean it!) but now that he's palling around with Kathryn, my affection for him is waning. If he's just doing it for the sake of filming then I'll forgive him. Back to the forum topic question, will he put a ring on it? This is totally my opinion, but I am of the firm belief that Kathryn and Thomas really dislike each other. Oh sure, they'll play out their on/off/off/on/off/off/off/on/off relationship as long as a Bravo camera or two is aimed at them; they might even film a wedding or two - although the possibility of three or four is not out of the question with those two. Their relationship is the dead horse that just keeps beating itself. Link to comment
Sun-Bun November 17, 2015 Share November 17, 2015 I loved Cooper, too, until I unofficially followed him on social media. I think he's an insufferable snob. I myself find snobs amusing (Hi Whitney! Hi Patricia! Love you! Mean it!) but now that he's palling around with Kathryn, my affection for him is waning. If he's just doing it for the sake of filming then I'll forgive him. Back to the forum topic question, will he put a ring on it? This is totally my opinion, but I am of the firm belief that Kathryn and Thomas really dislike each other. Oh sure, they'll play out their on/off/off/on/off/off/off/on/off relationship as long as a Bravo camera or two is aimed at them; they might even film a wedding or two - although the possibility of three or four is not out of the question with those two. Their relationship is the dead horse that just keeps beating itself. Agreed on all accounts, Babyfoot! And I think if Kathryn were older and thus wiser/less crazy, Thomas would go ahead and make her his wife. But she's still firmly entrenched in her young and stupid phase, even despite being such a young mother. By time she's outgrown the childish antics, the jealous fits, the wild and drunken "Kiki" scenes at night and the need to express her trashier side in both her fashion sense and her social graces((or lack thereof)), Thomas will likely have moved on to the next potential wife candidate. Or he'll just be too old to care about enduring any more years of her constant bullshit. At his age, I doubt he's got the patience or the stamina to wait until Kathryn has hit age 30 and knows to slow her roll enough to behave like a true "Ravenel wife" should in his book. He's definitely turned on by her, digs her similarly historic bloodlines and likes how she looks on his arm, but her trashy crazy side seems to completely turn him off...basically, he doesn't love her and barely seems to like her, but man, she must be a helluva good fuck for him. There's a definite lack of respect between the two of them, that much is evident. And that's just sad...it's obvious that if she wasn't a "scion" and he didn't find her hot, Thomas wouldn't even have bothered with her---and vise versa, only she obviously only likes him for the fringe benefits of being a rich man's arm candy. 4 Link to comment
biakbiak November 17, 2015 Share November 17, 2015 I find that Thomas and Kathryn have the same maturity level. Kensie will probably be more mature in a year if they have good nannies. 5 Link to comment
RedHawk November 17, 2015 Share November 17, 2015 I think that Thomas will wait a few years until Kathryn is more mature and then when he wants to marry her she will find him "too old". People often age a lot between 50 and 60, especially hard-drinking men. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get a down-on-one-knee romantic-background proposal as the season finale. T-Rav and Kiki are probably concocting it now because IMO those two will do anything to stay in the spotloght and keep "their" show going. 3 Link to comment
biakbiak November 17, 2015 Share November 17, 2015 This may make me an awful person but if Cameron is not casually reminding Shep that he hit that and got to easily walk away she is a better person than I am. 2 Link to comment
JenE4 November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 I can understand naming a child after a saint if that's your thing, but wouldn't everyone just go with the name but leave off the Saint part? Or I could also see Saint as a trendy new celebrity name thing, but wouldn't they write out the word? The kid's name is truly an abbreviation?! Oh, boy, this kid is going to grow up as St. Ravenel and have people calling him Street, which might be a better name...especially if he becomes a rapper. But these two black sheep of the Ravenel and Calhoun "dynasties" name their kid St? What are the chances this kid will live up to this name? Then again, he'll likely grow up resenting these dysfunctional parents and doing okay for himself. But I can imagine that decision... What's more pretentious sounding than Kennsington? Well, the answer to that is absolutely no other name in the world except for St. Julien Rembert. 2 Link to comment
Petunia13 November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 Regardless of the original St. Julien's contributions to Charleston and the glamorous, exciting world of fertilizers, St. Julien is still a ridiculous and pretentious name for a 21st century human baby - for a racehorse, okay; a new craft beer, fine; a canonized performer of miracles, no problem - but for the offspring of two reality TV c-list stars it's laughable. Seriously, am I the only one who laughed out loud when they read the name of the newest Ravenel? I agree with every word of this post so much. 2 Link to comment
scrb November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 The kid will probably have to go by his initials, either SJ or SJR. Link to comment
RedHawk November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 St. Julien may be somewhat pretentious but I don't agree that "Julien" is such a terrible name and that he'll be teased and called "Julie" or have to use his initials. (There is no name that a kid can't be teased about.) "Jules" is a perfectly acceptable nickname. My friend's 26-year-old son was named and has always gone by Julian, another friend just named his son (2 weeks old today) Julian. Maybe it's more of a Southern name? 3 Link to comment
MyAimIsTrue November 22, 2015 Share November 22, 2015 A friend of my father's (men in their mid to late 70's) is named Julius but everyone calls him Julie. While the Saint part is pretentious as hell I think Julien is a fine name. 2 Link to comment
Petunia13 November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 Julian McMahon -"Christian Troy" (wolf whistles) Julian Lennon It's actually not that unusual of a name but the St. part is idiotic. Link to comment
nexxie November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 Sorry Kanye, St. is taken. St. Julien may be somewhat pretentious but I don't agree that "Julien" is such a terrible name and that he'll be teased and called "Julie" or have to use his initials. (There is no name that a kid can't be teased about.) "Jules" is a perfectly acceptable nickname. My friend's 26-year-old son was named and has always gone by Julian, another friend just named his son (2 weeks old today) Julian. Maybe it's more of a Southern name? Hey, Jude would work. ;) 1 Link to comment
Sun-Bun November 27, 2015 Share November 27, 2015 Judging from her latest Instagram pic, I'd say Kathryn finally got that rock---it was a rather sneaky pic jokingly trying to deflect attention from a lovey and large canary diamond engagement ring clearly on her pointer finger, while a giant gumball machine-style toy ring is on her ring finger. Hmmmmm...and so the plot thickens...!! ((it would be quite a major coup for the third season though if Thomas and Kathryn ended up having their likely giant and lavish wedding filmed)) Also, can homegirl seriously afford an Hermes Birkin bag, or is that just a good fake?!((I can't imagine TRav buying her such a crazy expensive bag as a gift, but maybe things really have changed for the better for those two)) 1 Link to comment
racked December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Judging from her latest Instagram pic, I'd say Kathryn finally got that rock---it was a rather sneaky pic jokingly trying to deflect attention from a lovey and large canary diamond engagement ring clearly on her pointer finger, while a giant gumball machine-style toy ring is on her ring finger. Hmmmmm...and so the plot thickens...!! ((it would be quite a major coup for the third season though if Thomas and Kathryn ended up having their likely giant and lavish wedding filmed)) Also, can homegirl seriously afford an Hermes Birkin bag, or is that just a good fake?!((I can't imagine TRav buying her such a crazy expensive bag as a gift, but maybe things really have changed for the better for those two)) Oh she is just so subtle with that picture! I want to like Kathyrn, because she feels like the underdog, but she really is not very likable. I do think the Birkin is real. Link to comment
RedHawk December 7, 2015 Share December 7, 2015 Sorry Kanye, St. is taken. Apparently not, if today's news sources are correct Kanye and Kim are naming their new son Saint West. Well, now T-Rav can say he did it first. 2 Link to comment
nexxie December 7, 2015 Share December 7, 2015 Apparently not, if today's news sources are correct Kanye and Kim are naming their new son Saint West. Well, now T-Rav can say he did it first. Too much! Makes North seem commonplace. Link to comment
Emme December 7, 2015 Share December 7, 2015 Apparently not, if today's news sources are correct Kanye and Kim are naming their new son Saint West. Well, now T-Rav can say he did it first. Actually, Pete Wentz (Fall Out Boy) has a son named Saint. I think he's one or two... Link to comment
TexasGal February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Kathryn was on a Twitter tear yesterday - sorry, too lame to figure out how to link them. Sounds like Rav spent Valentines Day away from Charleston and with someone else. What a surprise. 4 Link to comment
Lola16 February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 Ahhhhh. When is this coming back on? Link to comment
Sun-Bun February 16, 2016 Share February 16, 2016 (edited) According to Andy in a tweeted response to Patricia's question about that just last week: "SOON." Edited February 16, 2016 by Sun-Bun 2 Link to comment
ProudMary February 18, 2016 Share February 18, 2016 Thomas Ravenel responds to Kathryn Dennis' critical tweets http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/HolyCinema/archives/2016/02/17/southern-charm-stars-spar-over-online-photoTo me, Kathryn's most interesting tweet was last week (Feb 10) before the "he's running around with other women while I'm home with the babies" tweets:https://twitter.com/kathryn_dennis/status/697454647427125248 Kathryn C. Dennis @kathryn_dennis Feb 10PI's are so obvious. If you need to get a PI to watch me at home. With my children. Being a mom. Maybe it's you that's paranoid (guilty). It is absolutely unbelievable how these two play it all out on social media! 2 Link to comment
Lola16 February 19, 2016 Share February 19, 2016 OMG this tweet response to K was riotously funny: ZeroFucks @Zzzzznoname Feb 10 @BrooksTellsAll @kathryn_dennis She needs to put that big white fur coat on and chase his ass down like a deranged polar bear again!!! 4 Link to comment
Major Bigtime February 19, 2016 Share February 19, 2016 Kathryn could have been "somebody" but she hitched her wagon to the wrong star. I feel sorry for the kids who will be used as pawns their entire young lives, it seems. $3,100 per month to see his kids 4 days? Kathryn needs to shut her complaining piehole. 2 Link to comment
Sun-Bun February 19, 2016 Share February 19, 2016 Kathryn could have been "somebody" but she hitched her wagon to the wrong star. I feel sorry for the kids who will be used as pawns their entire young lives, it seems. $3,100 per month to see his kids 4 days? Kathryn needs to shut her complaining piehole. EXACTLY. I know he's a dirtbag too, but good lord, based on her flair for the melodramatics that we've seen in the show, it doesn't surprise me one bit that she's difficult to deal with and probably makes it Hell for him when he wants to schedule his dad time with the kids. I'm willing to bet money that she's the type who uses her kids as pawns in her ongoing love games. It probably doesn't help that she obviously has no other aspirations in life than to be a kept stay-at-home mom/partygirl with a nanny---how about finding a career already instead of chasing after a lazy babydaddy?! She likely could've had Thomas eating out of the palm of her hand had she played it cool and not forced her own agenda on him---but alas, her naive youth and stupidity didn't work in their favor. Again, I'm just so sad for their kids at this point. Thomas is obviously NOT interested in settling down whatsoever. He's just a big manchild who likes the idea of having a wife/kids in theory, but isn't willing to deal with the reality, sacrifice and hard work that this lifestyle requires. It's a damned shame that he's so immature as well...but I hate it even more that he's not even smart enough to realize that bachelorhood gets really lonely and boring for most men after a while. He needs to grow up and find an easygoing, more age-appropriate woman who jives with his personality and lifestyle and quit trying to settle down with young chicks he finds suitable due to their "physicality"!! Shep's going to be T-Rav 2.0 if he's not careful---fingers crossed that he's the wisest of this crazy bunch, because Whitney is a lost cause and Craig's an entirely different story anyway. 7 Link to comment
Lola16 February 19, 2016 Share February 19, 2016 Who knows how much of what either tweet are true? Thomas claims he doesn't have to pay child support but he does. Kathryn has often stated that he doesn't pay consistently. Thomas says Kathryn only lets him see the kids 4 days a month and that the court won't back him since he's never married her. K says Thomas isn't around to see the kids. Some say Thomas doesn't want to go to court to get visitation because then the court would decide what he has to pay and when and it would be tracked. That's a possibility. It's also possible that Thomas can see the kids more often but prefers to see them when he decides (versus a set out schedule) and K gets pissy about that. It's a shame that in 2 years, the kids will be more mature than their parents. 5 Link to comment
bosawks February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 It's a shame that in 2 years, the kids will be more mature than their parents. Two years!?!?!? How about hours......... 3 Link to comment
nexxie February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 Jeez, did this girl never figure out how she got pregnant the first time!? Why in the hell would she have another child with that idiot? 4 Link to comment
RedHawk February 23, 2016 Share February 23, 2016 Does anyone know the identity of the blonde Thomas is out and about with on Valentine's Day? Link to comment
Bronzedog February 24, 2016 Share February 24, 2016 Thomas and Kathryn are two co-dependent fucks. 5 Link to comment
Sage47 March 14, 2016 Share March 14, 2016 When you look on Kathryn's Twitter (which I just did), it is sad to me that she never mentions the new baby (St. Julien, Ha!). She seems besotted with Kensington and shows her off a lot but nada for her son. The poor baby. Kathryn is a very interesting character. And crazy. I kind of get why she tried to lure Thomas initially. She liked him, maybe even really thought she loved him, but mainly just wanted that life-staying home with his child, wealthy...the good life. But after everything derailed and she realized that Thomas had no intention of settling with one woman-even the mother of his child-why didn't she move on? Why did she saddle herself with ANOTHER child out of wedlock by him? She could have been a young party girl, enjoying life and having fun at the bars with her friends. Instead she is settled down very prematurely as a single mother to two babies. Not to mention the guy is 30 years older than her. 30! She really does seem to be mentally off. 5 Link to comment
Sun-Bun March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 (edited) When you look on Kathryn's Twitter (which I just did), it is sad to me that she never mentions the new baby (St. Julien, Ha!). She seems besotted with Kensington and shows her off a lot but nada for her son. The poor baby. Kathryn is a very interesting character. And crazy. I kind of get why she tried to lure Thomas initially. She liked him, maybe even really thought she loved him, but mainly just wanted that life-staying home with his child, wealthy...the good life. But after everything derailed and she realized that Thomas had no intention of settling with one woman-even the mother of his child-why didn't she move on? Why did she saddle herself with ANOTHER child out of wedlock by him? She could have been a young party girl, enjoying life and having fun at the bars with her friends. Instead she is settled down very prematurely as a single mother to two babies. Not to mention the guy is 30 years older than her. 30! She really does seem to be mentally off. Kathryn fascinates me as much as she repulses me. I think you hit the nail on the head as to why she initially thought tying her ship to Thomas's yacht was a great idea---he seemed fun and charismatic, he's filthy rich from an old monied Southern family, hangs with an upscale party crowd while living the good life---she probably was willing to overlook his felon past for the whole "bad boy" allure that most gals her age are attracted to, despite his own advanced age. It probably helped that he's in shape and looks good for a guy his age. I'm sure she thought she was young and hot enough to entrap him and live the good life as his well-kept trophy wife. Unfortunately, her lack of a good education/breeding((despite her family name)), her hot temper and her youthful stupidity/ignorance ruined her chances in the end. Honestly though, T-Rav really has proven that he just can't settle down with any one woman---he's just not mature enough to put his money where his mouth is. Way too spoiled and self-absorbed to put the time and patience into any long-term relationship, unfortunately. But Kathryn really made the rookie mistake of thinking she could "change" that old leopard's spots, didn't she? I think the second pregnancy was her last ditch effort to desperately keep him tied to her. It is weird that neither of them have mentioned the son much though, the supposed "golden child"...maybe the child has a disability and/or he's been tested as having special needs and they're too embarrassed to come out with the news publicly? Maybe he's grown a weird birthmark on his face?? Maybe Thomas doesn't want a redheaded son??? As ludicrous as all that sounds, I could see either of them being shallow enough to feel that way. Edited March 15, 2016 by Sun-Bun 9 Link to comment
Sage47 March 16, 2016 Share March 16, 2016 Good points Sun-Bun. I hope it's not true but I too wondered if something might be wrong with St. Julien (I hate typing that name, just so strange). They were all over the place showing off beautiful Kensington and there is barely a peep about their baby boy. Very strange. Even if they aren't getting along, you still would think that Kathryn would be showing him off on her own. She really did think that her youth and beauty would settle Thomas down with her and she would live the good life. He seemed headed in that direction initially, when he discussed her with that political advisor friend, Will Folks. But then I think the reality of settling down and particularly with HER reared up and he couldn't get away fast enough. Remember how disrespectful he was to her at that dinner party at his house in season one? Talking about Beverage Cart Girl in front of her? He only wanted to sleep with Kathryn really, and now he has two children with a hot headed "strumpet". Danni was smart and didn't fall for his BS. I think being such a young mom is unfortunately going to age Kathryn prematurely. 4 Link to comment
Babyfoot March 18, 2016 Share March 18, 2016 I agree, Sun-Bun, I'm equally fascinated and repulsed by her as well. I can't quite figure out exactly why she's so off-putting and yet so ickily watchable when she's completely charmless, especially when compared to the rest of the cast. She's petulant, spoiled and ill- tempered (so she obviously checks all Bravo's boxes for any housewives franchise) and her talking heads are never quite as quoteable as the others. I think she and Thomas are naturally awful on their own but I've always had the sense that Kathryn manufactures some of the drama, and perhaps a child or two, to stay relevant. I'm sure Thomas is no picnic to deal with as a co-parent but for some inexplicable reason I find him the more endearing than her. I for one cannot wait to hear Patricia's take on these two. Whitney's, too. Shep. Cameran. Craig. Want to hear them all. 3 Link to comment
Sage47 March 21, 2016 Share March 21, 2016 Sadly all Kathryn really has going for her is her good looks. She seems to be a drunk and either shows no personality or a petulant one. Thinking back, the first few times they showed her staying over at Thomas' place I remember thinking she was strangely flatlined in personality. He was chatting to her and she was grunting one word answers. And that was in the beginning when things should have been amazing between them and she should have been bubbly and happy around him. There is something really missing in her. I would love to know more about her upbringing and why she is like this. My parents would have flipped if I was dating a 50 year old man when I was 21 but Kathryn's parents barely blinked. Very creepy. I truly feel for her children. She is very unstable. 8 Link to comment
Vivigirl10 March 21, 2016 Share March 21, 2016 Sadly all Kathryn really has going for her is her good looks. It's really true and I imagine she's gotten a lot of breaks along the way (and will continue to) due to this simple fact. I think the fascination with her will continue because she appears quite glamorous and well dressed. Too bad the outside package is so deceptive! She just recently posted a pic of St. Julien on her instagram. He was a cutie. 1 Link to comment
Major Bigtime March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 I dread having to listen to Kathryn's horrible vocal fry, and seeing those really bad hairdos. 3 Link to comment
Gam2 March 24, 2016 Share March 24, 2016 I don't give a rat's ass about K and T but holy cow, those poor babies. They had no right to have those children when they're so damaged themselves. Those sweet, innocent children don't stand a chance with these morons for parents. God bless and protect them. 3 Link to comment
Major Bigtime March 25, 2016 Share March 25, 2016 Go to Facebook and look at Southern Charm's page. I don't know how to get it in here but there's a photo of Kathryn holding Kelsie. I think she's had some serious work done to her face. And not all of her nails are painted. She's still dressing like a dime-store floozy. 1 Link to comment
RedHawk March 30, 2016 Share March 30, 2016 I for one cannot wait to hear Patricia's take on these two. Whitney's, too. Shep. Cameran. Craig. Want to hear them all. We already got Patricia's in the season preview clip: "Total morons." Whitney is sure to have some choice phrases. Link to comment
Neurochick April 4, 2016 Share April 4, 2016 (edited) Those two deserve each other. I don't give a rat's ass about K and T but holy cow, those poor babies. They had no right to have those children when they're so damaged themselves. Those sweet, innocent children don't stand a chance with these morons for parents. God bless and protect them. In a way I agree with this, but I am glad that I live in a country where no one can tell another person that they don't have the right to have a child or they don't have the right to not have a child. Patricia is right, "total morons." Edited April 4, 2016 by Neurochick 4 Link to comment
hoosier80 April 5, 2016 Share April 5, 2016 I think Kathryn went for baby #2 in the hopes it'd be a male. I could see an ass like Thomas wanting a son, to carry on the family name. She's stupid enough to think that would then seal the deal, as it were. Now she's stuck with two kids while he goes about partying with some new blonde. I think I saw it online that the blonde is an Eastern European, whom he met in a Barnes & Noble self help section. Ya can't make this stuff up. I'm just surprised he wasn't struck by a bolt of lightening while in the self help section. I think he's too far set in his ways to be helped. 3 Link to comment
Neurochick April 5, 2016 Share April 5, 2016 I saw that in the Daily Mail yesterday about Thomas. The sad part is, he doesn't want a relationship with Kathryn, he is using her as a broodmare. She has produced his son and heir, and now she is no longer useful, unless Thomas wants a spare too. Katheryn wants a relationship and I fear she'll never get it from Thomas, even if they marry, he'll always cheat on her. 1 Link to comment
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