Kailyn: Kail Smash!

[DoctorWhovian]

Depending on Delaware law, because Javi voluntarily moved to a new place and established residency there, it is possible that Kail has an expectation of privacy in the home and Javi can't just come and go as he pleases. Some jurisdictions do it this way, others don't. Either way, Javi's whole "I can break the window if I want", stated on camera, makes him look unstable. Kail's behavior is deplorable (although had she filed for divorce before any cheating, I think that changes the narrative a bit, but wavering back and forth between Javi and divorce is playing with his and her children's emotions), but Javi is doing himself no favors.

[ChocolateAddict]

I'm getting a massive kick out of how jealous Kail must be of Vee right now.  

Vee has the body that Kail always wanted and eventually had surgery to get.  When she was pregnant, she barely put on any weight and looked like she could still be a model while Kail gets a puffy face and looks like she is eating for 4.  Vee got the little mini-me on the first try and while Kail got two boys.  Vee has the snapback body that Kail could only dream of and goddamn it I want to know what she does to get her hair looking so good.  Meanwhile Kail has an out of proportion, fake looking ass, greasy looking hair and ill applied make up. 

Not to mention that now Vee is sitting in the house that she and Jo share with their daughter while Kail is getting slammed left, right and centre for being pregnant by a third man while she refinances the house and gets into social media fights with Javi.  Vee and Jo are planning their wedding while Kail is getting a divorce. 

This is all to say that I hope Kail doesn't take this jealousy out on the pair of them.  She lashes out when she makes a mistake and over the years her favourite target has been Jo.  Jo and Vee have been nothing but accommodating to Kail especially with her endless demands about "come and pick up Isaac" and listen to her bitch in their kitchen at least once a week.  Kail is a soul sucking, fun crushing Dementor and I hope that she doesn't infect Jo and Vee. 

[SPLAIN]

3 hours ago, DoctorWhovian said:

Depending on Delaware law, because Javi voluntarily moved to a new place and established residency there, it is possible that Kail has an expectation of privacy in the home and Javi can't just come and go as he pleases. Some jurisdictions do it this way, others don't. Either way, Javi's whole "I can break the window if I want", stated on camera, makes him look unstable. Kail's behavior is deplorable (although had she filed for divorce before any cheating, I think that changes the narrative a bit, but wavering back and forth between Javi and divorce is playing with his and her children's emotions), but Javi is doing himself no favors.

Bolding: That may not be the case. I am with the camp that Kail did cheat before filing for marriage.

If there was a question about Delaware law, I am sure the police would have informed Kail about it and she would surely use it to her advantage. Kail does expect privacy and she should have it. However, that home also belongs to her two boys, the children she keeps putting on the back burner. One of those boys is Javi's son by law. Javi has a right to go and check on his child until a visitation order is set and signed. Should he go breaking windows? No, of course not. Can he drive up at will to see if his son needs anything or if he can just see him? He sure can. Kail knows this which is why she is so adamant to keep Javi away. She knows the law is on his side during this time.

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I'm getting a massive kick out of how jealous Kail must be of Vee right now.  

This.

I so believe Kail has never gotten over the fact Jo dumped her and chose Vee. Kail has carried that grudge and animosity ever since. It is her downfall. She can't get over the anger she has with people who she feels have slighted her.

[DoctorWhovian]

Cop's aren't exactly experts in the law. I'm not saying this is definitely the case, but at least in some jurisdictions, once you voluntarily leave and establish residency in a new place, you do not get to just go in and out as you please. It may be your house, but it is not your home. They're both being dicks here, but Javi would look a whole lot better if he wasn't coming in through the basement and going through his wife's things.

[SPLAIN]

Cops are not attorneys, but they certainly do know the law when it comes to domiciles and all that it entails such as who is allowed where and when. It is a must when dealing with people who are having domestic issues since that is the kind of call they receive on a weekly basis. My nephew-in-law is a police officer and he had to be taught the rights of who is allowed in a home, apartment, dwelling of any kind including squatters.

It must burn up Kail to know she doesn't have the rights to the house as she assumed. I noticed how she told Javi how she knows it is his house but he doesn't have the right to enter uninvited. He rambled on how he can do whatever he sees fit to the home. Those two surely called up their respective attorneys and inquired as to what is in fact the law. No doubt about it. Kail would love to have the upper hand in any situation. I would be shocked if she did not call her attorney to inquire what her rights were in that home and if she could legally keep Javi away from the home.

[Mkay]

[SPLAIN]

She looks pregnant from both sides.

[ghoulina]

LITTLEST???

[FairyDusted]

Wow. Well I hope she just has pregnancy face and is working her face rather than injectables. 

[Tatum]

17 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

She looks pregnant from both sides.

hahahahahaha. She is like the letter "S" backwards.

Edited March 17, 2017 by Tatum

[Mkay]

https://instagram.com/p/BRt67CnFaHs/

[BitterApple]

Ewww!!! Aside from being traumatized at the sight of Karl in a bra, I'm nauseous over that nasty ass shower in the background. Karl, if you have money for BMW's and Botox, you have money for a housekeeper. Invest in one, please.

Edited March 17, 2017 by BitterApple

[guilfoyleatpp]

What's up with her using the black heart all the time? I keep seeing it in her tweets.

Is she touring with Joan Jett now?

[CofCinci]

6 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

What's up with her using the black heart all the time? I keep seeing it in her tweets.

Is she touring with Joan Jett now?

It's part of her 'brand.'

Also, I can't find the tweet because it was probably 2+ years ago, but when she was criticized for cultural misappropriation and her use of the "N" word, she replied that she had a "Black heart."

[Calm81]

10 hours ago, Mkay said:

https://instagram.com/p/BRt67CnFaHs/

I had the sound off and I was afraid my husband would think I was looking at the beginning of a porno ??

Warning next time, I don't need to see that beast looking like that before breakfast . ?

18 hours ago, Mkay said:

Oh look! Kail has a skinny mirror.

You all know that mirror, the one mirror in the house that literally makes you look two inches shorter and smaller all around. I love me skinny mirror. I look so cute and petite instead of the 5'8" jolly green giant ??

Edited March 17, 2017 by Calm81

[Uncle JUICE]

Cocking her hips like that only makes it look like she just farted, or is just about to. 

[polandspring]

On 3/15/2017 at 10:53 AM, Lm2162 said:

Jo went to school a while ago and dropped out. I don't think there's any proof he goes now, given his social media. But there's nothing wrong with him being a stay at home dad and Vee working if that's what they choose, that choice should be more socially accepted. He tweets about cooking and that sort of thing. Maybe he's just into that lifestyle. I'd love for my husband to be a SAHD if we could afford it. 

Is Vee working full time?

12 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Ewww!!! Aside from being traumatized at the sight of Karl in a bra, I'm nauseous over that nasty ass shower in the background. Karl, if you have money for BMW's and Botox, you have money for a housekeeper. Invest in one, please.

I think this about her and therapy all the time :/

Edited March 17, 2017 by polandspring

[MissMel]

13 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Ewww!!! Aside from being traumatized at the sight of Karl in a bra, I'm nauseous over that nasty ass shower in the background. Karl, if you have money for BMW's and Botox, you have money for a housekeeper. Invest in one, please.

See?  I have a problem with the idea Javi 'went through her drawers and stuff' after he walked in, unannounced, through the cellar door.  Why would he need to look through her drawers?  Clearly, she doesn't use them.  She posts pictures constantly with bras and clothes displayed for all the world to see.  I think she just took the opportunity to blame him for her mess.  And she's mad her housekeeper (Javi's mom) left with him.  

[BitterApple]

7 minutes ago, MissMel said:

I think she just took the opportunity to blame him for her mess.  And she's mad her housekeeper (Javi's mom) left with him.  

I think so as well. When Javi was telling the story to his friends, he said there was shit everywhere when he walked into the house. I think Kail is a filthy, nasty slob when the cameras aren't rolling. We all have normal house clutter, but she strikes me as being dirty, rather than disorganized.

[Tatum]

48 minutes ago, MissMel said:

See?  I have a problem with the idea Javi 'went through her drawers and stuff' after he walked in, unannounced, through the cellar door.  Why would he need to look through her drawers?  Clearly, she doesn't use them.  She posts pictures constantly with bras and clothes displayed for all the world to see.  I think she just took the opportunity to blame him for her mess.  And she's mad her housekeeper (Javi's mom) left with him.  

Excellent point. Kail has bragged about her sex life on twitter, discussed her vibrator on national television, broadcasted her ass surgery, shills for bra companies, takes pictures of herself while driving (and cleverly includes the speedometer)- just what kind of mind blowing revelation could one find in her drawers anyways? Or is she implying that Javi is some sad sack loser that wants to steal her panties?

[LBS]

I'm so confused about that IG video of her shilling that bra.   Where is she?  That can't be her home bathroom.   Why does she have department store racks of crappy crystal bracelets in front of her?  Do people really own that many bracelets?  Am I an anomaly?

[heatherchandler]

On 3/12/2017 at 5:42 PM, GreatKazu said:

 

Definitely. I have watched Vee's tutorials out of curiosity and she really knows how to apply make-up. She can do different looks on herself which is what I really like. I tend to stick with the same ol' crap. Vee can pull off different looks and can be without make-up as she has such a pretty face. I wish her much success.

I would love to watch a tutorial by Vee.  Are they on youtube?

5 hours ago, Calm81 said:

Oh look! Kail has a skinny mirror.

You all know that mirror, the one mirror in the house that literally makes you look two inches shorter and smaller all around. I love me skinny mirror. I look so cute and petite instead of the 5'8" jolly green giant ??

I had the BEST skinny mirror and my son broke it.  I was beyond upset.

[GreatKazu]

44 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

I would love to watch a tutorial by Vee.  Are they on youtube?

I had the BEST skinny mirror and my son broke it.  I was beyond upset.

She has posted tutorials on her Instagram. Not sure if she has any on Youtube. I didn't even know she had the tutorials until the link to her Instagram was posted. I have checked out her Instagram from time to time and came across various tutorials.

2 hours ago, MissMel said:

See?  I have a problem with the idea Javi 'went through her drawers and stuff' after he walked in, unannounced, through the cellar door.  Why would he need to look through her drawers?  Clearly, she doesn't use them.  She posts pictures constantly with bras and clothes displayed for all the world to see.  I think she just took the opportunity to blame him for her mess.  And she's mad her housekeeper (Javi's mom) left with him.  

Excellent point.

 

2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I think so as well. When Javi was telling the story to his friends, he said there was shit everywhere when he walked into the house. I think Kail is a filthy, nasty slob when the cameras aren't rolling. We all have normal house clutter, but she strikes me as being dirty, rather than disorganized.

Pretty darn sure she is a messy slob. Now, I myself don't have always have a pristine home. I am looking around my house and I see I really need to get to that pile of clothes in my bedroom. Living room needs my attention. The thing is there is a difference between having normal house clutter and actually cleaning it up versus having a messy, filthy dirty house all the damn time! Especially when one is not working like Kail.

[MissMel]

1 hour ago, LBS said:

I'm so confused about that IG video of her shilling that bra.   Where is she?  That can't be her home bathroom.   Why does she have department store racks of crappy crystal bracelets in front of her?  Do people really own that many bracelets?  Am I an anomaly?

I don't know but if you are, so am I.  I'm not judging though.  My own bathroom looks like Bath & Body Works threw up all over it.  I don't take selfies or show it off to other people, so there's that.  And I don't keep my jewelry in there, either.?

[Christina]

I wandered off to find the links where Farrah was calling out Kailyn for getting pregnant with Lincoln, not this one, but now can't find those posts so I'm linking here. She has been calling out all the girls for having additional children to keep the shows going. She did it to Cate, Chelsea, Maci and Janelle. I can't find the old Too Fab article where she says it, but it is discussed on this Intouch Weekly article. Almost all of my searches are on her current pregnancy.

I'm linking this Radar Online article because it has a video of Kail being a hypocrite and I heard it and must spread the hate. 

I can't get the tweet of Farrah's to load where she says the baby's father is right under our noses, but that was in March. She implies it is the producer.

[Christina]

My computer froze and then posted the above paragraphs but I wasn't done whining. It now won't let me edit it, but may just merge these two posts. My computer is trying to give me an intervention from Teen Mom.

Farrah has given interviews in the past where she claimed Kail got pregnant to get another season of Teen Mom 2, and also said the same about Janelle. In December, during that tweet fight, I don't believe Farrah knew Kail was pregnant because I think she actually kept it secret while waiting to see the gender. Kail was saying that Farrah always brings her pregnancy into it, because Farrah does. In March, Farrah tweeted a congratulations and then tweets that it's the producer. I see no reason Farrah would know that, and if the production did talk about it around or with her, JC wouldn't still be there, in my opinion, he would have been fired or moved to another "talent" {gag}.

[CofCinci]

Why would he be fired or moved?  It's not like he's a therapist with laws and code of ethics to punish him for sleeping with a client.  He's an MTV reality show field producer and they've been sleeping with the talent since the dawn of reality television. The producer that slept with Real World Season 1's Becky was fired because the original concept of RW - but 4 years later RW: Seattle's David is crying in the street for Kira.  

Crew/Cast hookups are now the norm. https://mom.me/baby/21351-how-real-lifetimes-unreal-reality-producer-tells-all/. Perhaps it took years for these pairing to happen on the series because teen moms hold little social value.  Unlike other producers who have been with their TM's since the start, JC has worked with Amber and Farrah.  I wouldn't be surprised if the EPs kept bouncing the new guy (started in 2015) to the single-ish women in hopes that he'd fuck one of them. 

[Calm81]

Could someone please explain to me why everyone thinks it could be JC the producer? What ignited this rumor/truth? Was it in a blind or....? 

Thanks in advance ?

Edited March 18, 2017 by Calm81
Phone placed it's instead of it

[CofCinci]

36 minutes ago, Calm81 said:

Could someone please explain to me why everyone thinks it's could be JC the producer? What ignited this rumor/truth? Was it in a blind or....? 

Thanks in advance ?

A month before the pregnancy reveal, they were rumored to have hooked up on the gossip sites/magazines.   He was in Hawaii with her but yet nothing was filmed for the series.  Those Hawaii pictures Kail tried to show an upset Isaac, were most likely taken by JC. If you're bored one night, you can probably search this thread and see references to their relationship but I think we didn't know his name early on. He was 'producing' her during the possible conception window. 

You can probably find all the info on Reddit because that's where a lot of the real truth is found and then we carry it over here for discussion. 

She Tweeted this on 10/13, when she most likely learned she was pregnant:

https://out.reddit.com/t3_5vv6p8?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.reddituploads.com%2Faecdb0e8b6094aceb3480ff04caf41c8%3Ffit%3Dmax%26h%3D1536%26w%3D1536%26s%3Dc41e3d71db458f5ad5b8457c38707d57&token=AQAAgjvNWDYrrGQVvDOOfTWL5uedmRspnPYG1sx5MXjSL6oua-ST&app_name=mweb2x

Edited March 18, 2017 by CofCinci

[Calm81]

37 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

A month before the pregnancy reveal, they were rumored to have hooked up on the gossip sites/magazines.   He was in Hawaii with her but yet nothing was filmed for the series.  Those Hawaii pictures Kail tried to show an upset Isaac, were most likely taken by JC. If you're bored one night, you can probably search this thread and see references to their relationship but I think we didn't know his name early on. He was 'producing' her during the possible conception window. 

You can probably find all the info on Reddit because that's where a lot of the real truth is found and then we carry it over here for discussion. 

She Tweeted this on 10/13, when she most likely learned she was pregnant:

https://out.reddit.com/t3_5vv6p8?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.reddituploads.com%2Faecdb0e8b6094aceb3480ff04caf41c8%3Ffit%3Dmax%26h%3D1536%26w%3D1536%26s%3Dc41e3d71db458f5ad5b8457c38707d57&token=AQAAgjvNWDYrrGQVvDOOfTWL5uedmRspnPYG1sx5MXjSL6oua-ST&app_name=mweb2x

Thanks!!!!! A very in-depth answer to my question lol. You people rock! I didn't quite understand how the tweet coincided with the producer because I couldn't make out the name on the music video screen but either way thanks for the detailed response. ??

[druzy]

20 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

I would love to watch a tutorial by Vee.  Are they on youtube?

I had the BEST skinny mirror and my son broke it.  I was beyond upset.

Vee's You Tube

I love a skinny mirror! 

[Mkay]

4 hours ago, Calm81 said:

Could someone please explain to me why everyone thinks it could be JC the producer? What ignited this rumor/truth? Was it in a blind or....? 

Thanks in advance ?

I still believe it's Chris Lopez.  

3 hours ago, Calm81 said:

Thanks!!!!! A very in-depth answer to my question lol. You people rock! I didn't quite understand how the tweet coincided with the producer because I couldn't make out the name on the music video screen but either way thanks for the detailed response. ??

I also never saw proof of JC in Hawaii.  

[Adiba]

2 hours ago, Mkay said:

I still believe it's Chris Lopez.  

I also never saw proof of JC in Hawaii.  

I also believe Chris is the likely father, but I wouldn't put it past Kail to have hooked up with more than one person during the conception period. Like others, I think she is waiting until the baby is born to see who the actual father is. When Javi and Kail were fighting, he said she was sleeping with " all these dudes" and while she did deny the phrase, she didn't say "just one" or " none."

[SPLAIN]

On 3/16/2017 at 1:00 PM, FairyDusted said:

Wow. Well I hope she just has pregnancy face and is working her face rather than injectables. 

No kidding. Her lips look as if she has received some work on them.

20 hours ago, Adiba said:

I also believe Chris is the likely father, but I wouldn't put it past Kail to have hooked up with more than one person during the conception period. Like others, I think she is waiting until the baby is born to see who the actual father is. When Javi and Kail were fighting, he said she was sleeping with " all these dudes" and while she did deny the phrase, she didn't say "just one" or " none."

Kail sure didn't deny the comment. Her reaction was like a nuclear bomb. Her face immediately became red, I swear her whole face seemed to become larger and her eyes seemed like they were bulging out of their sockets. I bet if the cameras hadn't been there, she would have gone after Javi physically. I swear, it appeared as if she was ready to bolt off the couch, but her large ass weighed her down.

I can't help but think Kail had unprotected sex with all "these dudes" and is hoping Chris is the father.

Kail's plastic surgeon has a reality show. I saw the promo on some channel. He seems like a lunatic.

Edited March 19, 2017 by SPLAIN

[CofCinci]

5 minutes ago, SPLAIN said:

I can't help but think Kail had unprotected sex with all "these dudes" and is hoping Chris is the father.

She most likely had unprotected sex with all of them --- but I don't believe she hopes Chris is the father.  If Chris was the father, I believe she would have aborted.  The guy has nothing.  She keeps the pregnancy when it secures a resource for her.

If Chris is the father, she continued the pregnancy to secure TM2 storyline (which is what Farrah accused her of back in December). 

If JC is the father, she continued the pregnancy to not only secure TM2 storyline but to gain whatever resources he could bring to the relationship.

[SPLAIN]

2 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

She most likely had unprotected sex with all of them --- but I don't believe she hopes Chris is the father.  If Chris was the father, I believe she would have aborted.  The guy has nothing.  She keeps the pregnancy when it secures a resource for her.

If Chris is the father, she continued the pregnancy to secure TM2 storyline (which is what Farrah accused her of back in December). 

If JC is the father, she continued the pregnancy to not only secure TM2 storyline but to gain whatever resources he could bring to the relationship.

As I typed out my comment, I had that very thing in the back of my head, what is Kail getting out of this pregnancy if Chris is the father? What does he bring to the table? Does he or his family have a lot of money? What prospects are in his future? I mean, I know nothing about the guy. He is the one she assaulted, right?

Her cryptic tweets about being in love, the slip-up about mentioning Chris' name and trying to backpedal by saying she meant to say her friend's name instead have me believing she at least believes it is Chris who is the father.

[Christina87]

On 3/14/2017 at 6:41 PM, Maharincess said:

The irony when somebody writes "your dumb" never fails to make me laugh. 

Another favorite of mine is when a high school dropout says, "only uneducated people think xyz..."

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, SPLAIN said:

As I typed out my comment, I had that very thing in the back of my head, what is Kail getting out of this pregnancy if Chris is the father? What does he bring to the table? Does he or his family have a lot of money? What prospects are in his future? I mean, I know nothing about the guy. He is the one she assaulted, right?

Her cryptic tweets about being in love, the slip-up about mentioning Chris' name and trying to backpedal by saying she meant to say her friend's name instead have me believing she at least believes it is Chris who is the father.

My thought is that he will be completely out of the picture and it will be alllll hers. (Or so she thinks)

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

4 hours ago, Mkay said:

My thought is that he will be completely out of the picture and it will be alllll hers. (Or so she thinks)

Maybe that's the appeal. She has to "share" Isaac and Lincoln with Jo and Javi. Having another child (preferably a girl) that she had all on her own with no dad in the picture probably sounds preferable. 

[polandspring]

7 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

Kail's plastic surgeon has a reality show. I saw the promo on some channel. He seems like a lunatic.

Do you remember what it was called?

[MaddyMaeboxerbabe]

Dr Miami.  He seems like a crazy fame whore.  

[lovesnark]

3 hours ago, MaddyMaeboxerbabe said:

Dr Miami.  He seems like a crazy fame whore.  

He really does! I watch Law & Order on WE all the time and they've been running the commercials constantly. I wouldn't let that guy touch me with a surgical instrument for a gazillion dollars!

[IvyDancer]

On 3/17/2017 at 9:57 AM, LBS said:

I'm so confused about that IG video of her shilling that bra.   Where is she?  That can't be her home bathroom.   Why does she have department store racks of crappy crystal bracelets in front of her?  Do people really own that many bracelets?  Am I an anomaly?

I am tired and ill (dealing with a sinus infection and very little sleep) and read that as "that can't be her human bathroom." Glad I didn't wake my sleeping husband because I almost fell out of bed with that mental image. 

[Uncle JUICE]

13 hours ago, TeenMomAngerMgmt said:

Maybe that's the appeal. She has to "share" Isaac and Lincoln with Jo and Javi. Having another child (preferably a girl) that she had all on her own with no dad in the picture probably sounds preferable. 

To me, this one theory is the leaderin the clubhouse. She can finally have a child for whom she is the ONLY influence. Which, you know, great idea!

[Tatum]

1 hour ago, Uncle JUICE said:

To me, this one theory is the leaderin the clubhouse. She can finally have a child for whom she is the ONLY influence. Which, you know, great idea!

If this had happened a few years ago, I could see this, because I think she did want a second child and she picked Javi knowing that he:  1. would potentially be deployed and out of her hair, and 2. wouldn't give her any lip when he was home, thus allowing her all the control.

 

But at this point, it doesn't seem like she's that interested in raising the kids she has now, let alone adding a third to the mix, one that she won't be able to pawn off on anyone when she wants to go out with her friends. Assuming the baby's dad won't be in the picture, she won't have him or his family to provide childcare. Her days of going to concerts in other states or on adult only vacations are over for years. I just can't believe she'd be cool with that. Plus, she went to the trouble of ass surgery and now it might be all for naught.

I am with @CofCinci that there must have been something in it for her (other than the joys of parenting another child) that we are missing. I don't think she'd saddle herself with 18+ years of solo parenting just to say fuck you to Javi, I don't think she desperately wanted another child at this point in her life (with her career aspirations and plastic surgery spree), and I don't think she was that desperate to hold on to Chris, or whatever other college boy she was fucking (unless of course, there was something monetarily or career advancing in it for her, something that made it advantageous to have a baby).

[Uncle JUICE]

7 minutes ago, Tatum said:

 

I am with @CofCinci that there must have been something in it for her (other than the joys of parenting another child) that we are missing. I don't think she'd saddle herself with 18+ years of solo parenting just to say fuck you to Javi, I don't think she desperately wanted another child at this point in her life (with her career aspirations and plastic surgery spree), and I don't think she was that desperate to hold on to Chris, or whatever other college boy she was fucking (unless of course, there was something monetarily or career advancing in it for her, something that made it advantageous to have a baby).

You mean like maybe more seasons of this show? That's the only reason I can think of. It makes zero sense under any set of circumstances that do not include "TV show based on being a young mom" to have another child in her situation. I challenge anyone to make the case why she NEEDED a third child before she was 26, without a full time life partner to help out. I don't mean the case SHE tried to make with like medical nonsense. I mean a reality-based case. How many single moms with two baby daddies under 30 years old do you think are out there thinking "Know what this situation needs right now? Another mouth to feed!"

[Tatum]

5 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said:

You mean like maybe more seasons of this show? That's the only reason I can think of. It makes zero sense under any set of circumstances that do not include "TV show based on being a young mom" to have another child in her situation. I challenge anyone to make the case why she NEEDED a third child before she was 26, without a full time life partner to help out. I don't mean the case SHE tried to make with like medical nonsense. I mean a reality-based case. How many single moms with two baby daddies under 30 years old do you think are out there thinking "Know what this situation needs right now? Another mouth to feed!"

I guess maybe I watched too much Melrose Place (the original, not that ridiculous reboot) at an impressionable age, because my theory was that the baby daddy was someone married, (or just someone who does not want to be known as the guy that knocked up Kail Lowry), and he will buy her silence for however many years until she slips into obscurity. As an added bonus, Kail will, after milking this who's the father storyline for months, will name her fame hungry friend as the father in order to throw people off the trail of the REAL father. Everyone wins (except of course, the baby, but no one thinks about that).

 

I suppose it could be as simple as Kail was just careless and got knocked up by a classmate she was casually dating, but I just can't see that. This is a girl who, unlike probably every other Teen Mom, has likely read a few books on fertility and probably knows how ovulation works and when is a prime time to get pregnant. This is not someone who gets pregnant on accident. And I suppose it could have been intentional, but Kail is set to graduate, has her eye on a hosting/telecasting career, has been working on her "brand" for a number of years now, already has two kids and two custody arrangements- there is nothing in the time leading up to last fall where it seemed like a baby fit into her plans.

 

I suppose she could have just been thinking about staying relevant for a show renewal, but that was quite a gamble, and it seems rather short sighted making an 18 year commitment for a possibility of a 6 month season. Kail is selfish, immature, and self absorbed, but she strikes me as reasonably intelligent and calculating and I just don't think she'd do that. Plus, she's got enough of an inflated ego that I would imagine she thinks she's interesting enough to warrant a renewed season without the pregnancy/paternity gimmick.

 

Who knows, maybe I've read her wrong. Maybe she got really drunk and thought Chris was wearing a condom when he wasn't.

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3 hours ago, Tatum said:

I guess maybe I watched too much Melrose Place (the original, not that ridiculous reboot) at an impressionable age, because my theory was that the baby daddy was someone married, (or just someone who does not want to be known as the guy that knocked up Kail Lowry), and he will buy her silence for however many years until she slips into obscurity. As an added bonus, Kail will, after milking this who's the father storyline for months, will name her fame hungry friend as the father in order to throw people off the trail of the REAL father. Everyone wins (except of course, the baby, but no one thinks about that).

 

I suppose it could be as simple as Kail was just careless and got knocked up by a classmate she was casually dating, but I just can't see that. This is a girl who, unlike probably every other Teen Mom, has likely read a few books on fertility and probably knows how ovulation works and when is a prime time to get pregnant. This is not someone who gets pregnant on accident. And I suppose it could have been intentional, but Kail is set to graduate, has her eye on a hosting/telecasting career, has been working on her "brand" for a number of years now, already has two kids and two custody arrangements- there is nothing in the time leading up to last fall where it seemed like a baby fit into her plans.

 

I suppose she could have just been thinking about staying relevant for a show renewal, but that was quite a gamble, and it seems rather short sighted making an 18 year commitment for a possibility of a 6 month season. Kail is selfish, immature, and self absorbed, but she strikes me as reasonably intelligent and calculating and I just don't think she'd do that. Plus, she's got enough of an inflated ego that I would imagine she thinks she's interesting enough to warrant a renewed season without the pregnancy/paternity gimmick.

 

Who knows, maybe I've read her wrong. Maybe she got really drunk and thought Chris was wearing a condom when he wasn't.

I could see the father of the child being married and him promising her hearty "off the books" child support for her silence. He may have "sweet-talked her" with promises to leave his wife and this was her way to "stick it to him". There's SOMETHING in it for Kailyn, she didn't just decide to have a 3rd child cause she loves kids so much. She's also got a higher iq than Jenelle, who breeds just to breed. No there's a story here.

 

The only woman on this series that I think actually enjoys her kid/being a Mom is Chelsea, who would have a child just because she liked being a Mom. 

[BXD]

On March 15, 2017 at 3:08 PM, politichick said:

And don't forget "Bob took Jane and I to the mall."

Please tell me you read Matt Baier's (Teen Mom OG) book excerpt. If not, go over to the Amber thread right now and see first-hand how amazing his grammar is!

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4 hours ago, Uncle JUICE said:

You mean like maybe more seasons of this show? That's the only reason I can think of. It makes zero sense under any set of circumstances that do not include "TV show based on being a young mom" to have another child in her situation. I challenge anyone to make the case why she NEEDED a third child before she was 26, without a full time life partner to help out. I don't mean the case SHE tried to make with like medical nonsense. I mean a reality-based case. How many single moms with two baby daddies under 30 years old do you think are out there thinking "Know what this situation needs right now? Another mouth to feed!"

But why get pregnant when by all appearances she doesn't want to be on the show any more?!  It's mind boggling.