S18.E18: One on One Part 4

[islandgal140]

Loathe as I am to admit this, I have to say this season's tell nothing is more like tell a lil' something.  The melted down ring and confirmation of Robyn's catfish connection were truly eye opening revelations. Four parts was still too long albeit I watched all 4.  

The melted down ring reveals the whole premise of the show was a lie from the word GO, which as far as I am concerned they are all a part of! Meri can be mad at Christine all she wants for spilling the beans and "telling her story" but Christine is a part of her marriage and made Christine a part of the lie when she had to nod her head on that interview couch together and falsely try to live up to the lie that Kody's love was multiplied. That SOB was subtracting since he added Robyn to the family. 

10 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

Yeah, it has got to chap Kootie's a$$ that he won't get anything from Christine's wedding show! I do sincerely hope she has her own contract w/TLC now...she must! Right?

I think they are getting paid because they showed a brief preview and there was a split second unnecessary scene of Robyn and Kody, which pissed me off more than it should because they really was no need for them to be shown and comment on Christine wedding. 

[Roslyn]

9 hours ago, TexasTiffany said:

Christine is sharing a bit more about what her sex life with Kody was like. He didn't kiss her even during sex. Made her feel inadequate. Ridiculed her even when intimate. She shouldn't have put up with that for years. She didn't deserve that. No wonder Kody is worried. The whole truth is starting to come to the surface. 

I think it's coming clear that Christine/Kody's relationship was 100% transactional and he used her as a brood mare and childcare. It went bad when Robyn came in because Christine saw that Kody was fully capable of being an attentive and loving husband/father...just not for her/her kids.

[laurakaye]

9 hours ago, eskimo said:

I am super pissed right now because I do not have this episode on D+. It's 11 pm MST and should have been available hours ago, like every other week. I have reset my Roku and logged in and out of D+ and...nothing. Everyone else here seems to have it, so what gives. F me in particular, I guess. 😡

Mine also did not show up on Hulu this morning like it has for the past million episodes.  I too was pissed off.  I don't ask for much, just that I get to watch my trashy cringe reality shows in the morning over coffee and Cheerios so I can come here and snark.  How can I snark now, Hulu?!  HOW??

[65mickey]

7 hours ago, xls said:

Did Koty say in part 3 or 4 that he wanted to punch someone? did I hear right?

the guy is scary psychopathic now!  

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He did say this. He said he was getting so fed up with complaints about Robyn that they better shut up or he felt like he wanted  to punch them in the mouth. I have to assume that he was talking about his 3 nonRobyn wives. No one called him on this??  Can you imagine a man saying this publicly that he felt like hitting his wives in the mouth? You are right he is scary and despicable. 

[mythoughtis]

7 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

He said he was getting so fed up with complaints about Robyn that they better shut up or he felt like he wanted  to punch them in the mouth. I have to assume that he was talking about his 3 nonRobyn wives.

I think he was talking about some of his non-Robyn offspring.  He called them a**holes in a previous episode. Regardless of which family members he was referring to, both statements were uncalled for. I repeat my earlier thought: if numerous people tell you the same thing as to what the problem is, they are usually correct. 

 

Edited December 18, 2023 by mythoughtis

[65mickey]

So he wanted to punch his children in the mouth. Father of the year he is not. Did you happen to see the clip of Kody and Christine while they were having lunch in the Mexican restaurant? He told said how mad he was with her and then he made a vulgar arm gesture with the clinched fist thrown over his chest and grabbing that arm with his other arm. He is trash. And he knew he was on camera. He has no impulse control. I wonder if he thinks this makes him look macho? It makes him look like a creep.  

[Gramto6]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

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I think they are getting paid because they showed a brief preview and there was a split second unnecessary scene of Robyn and Kody, which pissed me off more than it should because they really was no need for them to be shown and comment on Christine wedding. 

Well, I hope it is a pittance, just as a walk on appearance, not the "star" of the show rates! Jacka$$  and Crybrows just have to be inserted in everything! There is a reason Christine and David didn't invite them. I doubt they wanted him in "their day" show. Probably a concession to TLC so they would air it separately from SW.

 

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

1 hour ago, Roslyn said:

I think it's coming clear that Christine/Kody's relationship was 100% transactional and he used her as a brood mare and childcare. It went bad when Robyn came in because Christine saw that Kody was fully capable of being an attentive and loving husband/father...just not for her/her kids.

 

(Ack! Messed up the multi quote feature!)

I think another draw for marrying Christine is that she was AUB(?) royalty. So he wanted that boasting right. As far as wanting Christine in any romantic fashion, not even on his radar!

[zamp33]

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And now Robyn needs the OG wives to go up to her to give their permission for her and Kody to live in monogamy. Why should they have to do that?

I was rewatching season 14 - (I cannot remember the ep number now but I can re-edit this post later and post it.) Robyn said at least 3 times in that episode if someone was not happy they were free to leave, no one was forcing wives to stay. Kody said the same thing.

I do not understand why now Robyn says she needs  "permission" to be happy from Kody's ex-wives. Does she expect them to grovel to her and apologize  and then give her their blessing- (I think she does.)

 

Also Kody saying that he has to be made out to be the bad guy so David will accept Christine - is that what happened with Robyn and her ex- she had to say she was in an abusive marriage in order to be accepted by Kody?

 

 

[dariafan]

13 hours ago, Ms.Lulu said:

So Christine can't say anything negative about Robyn or Kody if she is in love with David?

I don't believe that is how it works. When you exit a bad relationship and move on to a better relationship it doesn't mean that you forget about the pain of the previous relationship.

You remember the pain, but it isn't front and center in your thoughts. And Christine is still helping her children and Janelle's children deal with the effective loss of their father.

Kody chose Robyn over his kids so Christine doesn't need to pretend that she used to have a great relationship with Kody or Robyn.

Kootie is in love with Robyn , so he shouldn’t have anything bad  I say about Christine.  Janelle.  Or meri.  According to his line of thinking 

[Gramto6]

17 minutes ago, dariafan said:

Kootie is in love with Robyn , so he shouldn’t have anything bad  I say about Christine.  Janelle.  Or meri.  According to his line of thinking 

I think Kootie is just pissed he can't strut around anymore and brag "I have 4 wives, did you hear that? 4 wives!!" 

Nothing "special" about having one wife. Poor Kootie!

Edited December 18, 2023 by Gramto6
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[dariafan]

Haven’t watched it yet.  So I have a question .. did he at least pronounce Machiavellian correctly ??    

[TexasTiffany]

2 hours ago, Roslyn said:

I think it's coming clear that Christine/Kody's relationship was 100% transactional and he used her as a brood mare and childcare. It went bad when Robyn came in because Christine saw that Kody was fully capable of being an attentive and loving husband/father...just not for her/her kids.

Isn't that disgusting! He didn't care about them in the bedroom either. Just about his own pleasure. When each of his OG3 wives stopped having children, he had no use for them. 

 

1 hour ago, Gramto6 said:

Well, I hope it is a pittance, just as a walk on appearance, not the "star" of the show rates! Jacka$$  and Crybrows just have to be inserted in everything! There is a reason Christine and David didn't invite them. I doubt they wanted him in "their day" show. Probably a concession to TLC so they would air it separately from SW.

I feel the same way. I didn't want K and R being included either. I want them to be left out in the cold and not profit from this. Since they are going to be shown, what I'm hoping now is we get to see K/R's reaction to seeing Christine win. I'm calling it a win. Christine got away, found love with a good guy, and moved on with her life. 

I'm sure Kody thought no one would ever want Christine since he loathed her. In his mind Christine was worthless but David and Christine getting married is confirmation that she's a catch. Kody, you loser! Christine wasn't alone for long. Another wound in Kody's side. She's not yesterday's leftovers to be thrown out in the trash. 

[laurakaye]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

Did you happen to see the clip of Kody and Christine while they were having lunch in the Mexican restaurant? He told said how mad he was with her and then he made a vulgar arm gesture with the clinched fist thrown over his chest and grabbing that arm with his other arm. He is trash. And he knew he was on camera. He has no impulse control. I wonder if he thinks this makes him look macho? It makes him look like a creep.  

I am positive he was thinking, "wait until all the cool dudes from my manosphere website see this!  I'll be their hero!  They're gonna freakin' LOVE this!  I am gonna have SO MANY private messages to read, I can't wait!"  And then ran home, pounded his chest and looked for a mirror where he could admire his pecs.

 

1 hour ago, dariafan said:

Kootie is in love with Robyn , so he shouldn’t have anything bad  I say about Christine.  Janelle.  Or meri.  According to his line of thinking 

Is he, though?  Do we think?  Because I think he may think he's in love with Robyn based on comparing her to those other awful harpies he married...Robyn, sweet unassuming cap-in-hand Robyn cemented her status by subtly putting down the other wives and their pesky kids, not filling safe, and being the damsel in distress for him to rescue like a manly-man would do.  I seriously wonder if the bloom is going to quickly come off the rose for both of them, and which one will bail first.  I think their relationship only worked when the other three were knocking on the door of Kody and Robyn's blanket fort, asking if they could play too, while Kody and Robyn giggled and told them to go away, because no one liked them.  If they have no common enemies over which to bond, what on earth will they even have in common besides a love of questionable art and jool'ry?

[UsernameFatigue]

The second best thing about Christine getting married, behind Christine finally finding true love, is that TLC has finally had to bring the series up to real time, rather than showing us footage that was shot a year and a half ago. In fact it seems that the footage they showed of Kody and Christine at lunch was a scene that we had never seen before? I don't remember it.

It appears that the one-on-one episodes were filmed after the wedding while pretending they were filmed before it? When Christine showed her engagement ring I am sure that there was also a wedding band. Not that that would be a surprise, given how TLC has manipulated the entire series for 18 seasons. 

David seems like a sweetie, it is so great to see Christine so happy. I do hope though that the series does not continue with a focus on Christine and David. I don't think it would be healthy for their marriage, given that David is not a publicity hound like Kody. 

If nothing else the 4 one-on-one episodes put Kody and his narcissism on blast. Over and over again. The look on Suki's face at times was priceless. If the series does continue with the other wives and kids, I really hope Robyn and Kody are relegated to bit players, if they are shown at all. I can't imagine anyone would miss them. 

[OlderThanDirt]

And what was the deal with that celebrity crush rubbish? That time could have been used to grill Kody about his individual relationships with the forgotten 13 or even with Robyn's kids.

[procrasstinator]

4 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

 

 

Is he, though?  Do we think?  Because I think he may think he's in love with Robyn based on comparing her to those other awful harpies he married...Robyn, sweet unassuming cap-in-hand Robyn cemented her status by subtly putting down the other wives and their pesky kids, not filling safe, and being the damsel in distress for him to rescue like a manly-man would do.  I seriously wonder if the bloom is going to quickly come off the rose for both of them, and which one will bail first.  I think their relationship only worked when the other three were knocking on the door of Kody and Robyn's blanket fort, asking if they could play too, while Kody and Robyn giggled and told them to go away, because no one liked them.  If they have no common enemies over which to bond, what on earth will they even have in common besides a love of questionable art and jool'ry?

I think you're on to something here.  I'm wondering if this is why Kody can't seem to get over his anger at Christine.  What will Robyn and Kody complain about then?  Christine has been their scapegoat for so long how will they manage without her?  Of course, people sometimes stay angry at their exes for a long time after a divorce.  Just what Kody was doing during the tell all going on about how he wouldn't let it go that Christine trashed talked him to the kids.  Grasping at straws to fill the void that is his relationship with Robyn?

[Chris Knight]

6 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

The second best thing about Christine getting married, behind Christine finally finding true love, is that TLC has finally had to bring the series up to real time, rather than showing us footage that was shot a year and a half ago. In fact it seems that the footage they showed of Kody and Christine at lunch was a scene that we had never seen before? I don't remember it.

It appears that the one-on-one episodes were filmed after the wedding while pretending they were filmed before it? When Christine showed her engagement ring I am sure that there was also a wedding band. Not that that would be a surprise, given how TLC has manipulated the entire series for 18 seasons. 

David seems like a sweetie, it is so great to see Christine so happy. I do hope though that the series does not continue with a focus on Christine and David. I don't think it would be healthy for their marriage, given that David is not a publicity hound like Kody. 

If nothing else the 4 one-on-one episodes put Kody and his narcissism on blast. Over and over again. The look on Suki's face at times was priceless. If the series does continue with the other wives and kids, I really hope Robyn and Kody are relegated to bit players, if they are shown at all. I can't imagine anyone would miss them. 

I also thought she wore both a wedding and engagement ring in the clip.

I hope David doesn't turn out to have his own dirty laundry/skeletons in the closet. 

[Roslyn]

7 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

If they have no common enemies over which to bond, what on earth will they even have in common besides a love of questionable art and jool'ry?

They will bond quite well over their blame/hatred for Christine.

Ran out of milk ? Thanks Christine !!

Kids late for school ? Thanks Christine !!

Kody's curls go flat ? Thanks Christine !!

Flat tire ? Thanks Christine !!

Ari raids the mountain of cardboard boxes and makes a sled to ride down the stairs ? Thanks Christine !!

[LotusFlower]

1 hour ago, dariafan said:

Haven’t watched it yet.  So I have a question .. did he at least pronounce Machiavellian correctly ??    

No!!

[Rabbit Hutch]

I think Kootie shot it straight when he said he's angry over how he believes Christine turned the kids against him when she left.  He doesn't love her or miss her, but Christine is the gateway mom for many if not most of the nonRobyn kids. Meri's checked out, Robyn is a friend to NO ONE, and often Janelle comes across as disinterested.

When Christine left many of the kids agreed with her decision.  Not saying there weren't other events and repercussions going on to help drive this, but the crap really hit the fan, then.  

Kootie is pretty uncomplicated, which is why Robyn shuts him down in conversations so often.  When he tell us what he is or what he's thinking, I think we can believe him.

[Granny58]

45 minutes ago, OlderThanDirt said:

And what was the deal with that celebrity crush rubbish? That time could have been used to grill Kody about his individual relationships with the forgotten 13 or even with Robyn's kids.

true, but at least SOMEBODY'S was Ryan Reynolds.  Back off Robyn, he's mine.    Also, notice in the clip for the wedding that Robyn was "speaking Kody," and telling him they were happy for Christine. 

[islandgal140]

We've had evidence that Robyn is a hoarder and in particular collects Precious Moments figurines. I must say that it dawned on me recently that this is what the family is to her - not a lived daily experience that is the fabric of her daily life, but rather a precious moments figurine to be put on her shelf and only dusted off and interacted with when it suits or conveniences her, like holidays and birthdays. Nothing more, which is why she is hung up on the mythical porch with her sister wives. That is just a precious moments scene she wanted to act out with the OG3 before putting them back in storage or in the shelf collecting dust while she goes back to living monogamy with her husband and 5 kids.

Robyn needs permission to be happy! Really? Did she need permission when she and Kody got rid of the family claddagh rings? Did she need permission when they bought the pair of matching gold jackass rings? Did she need permission when she got a new wedding ring set? 

That imaginary conversation Kody was creaming over having with David in the future bonding over how horrible Christine is was wild man! He really thinks at some point, David would come to him, out of all people, to basically tell him he was right, David should've steered clear and seen how terrible she was because she left a good man like Kody. Even Suki's kiss ass self had to put a stop to that, which let you know Kody was in involuntary psych hold territory! WTF!!!!

10 minutes ago, Rabbit Hutch said:

I think Kootie shot it straight when he said he's angry over how he believes Christine turned the kids against him when she left.  He doesn't love her or miss her, but Christine is the gateway mom for many if not most of the nonRobyn kids.

Last season during all the fallout after she announced she was leaving, he called her the Pied Piper who all the kids would follow. She is the heart of the family and as big as a delulu jackwagon he is, he got that fact 100% right. 

 

[Quickbeam]

6 kids and he wouldn’t kiss her. That’s animal husbandry, not a marriage. 

[HoneyBeach]

16 hours ago, Roslyn said:

So Kody vetted...and vetted Robyn HARD!

 

The petty teen in me is giggling a LOT

 

Whatever Kody. He saw the "Diesel Jeans" model, who "liked" HIM more than the thousand other men vying for her attention, and had to have her no matter which of his wives he had to run rough-shod over. Didn't care that she was divorced, with 3 children and a ton of debt, she was "pretty" and that's all it took to get her in.

He's so full of shit, if you planted him in Janelle's garden, you could grow a whole other Kody. God forbid.

[laurakaye]

26 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

Last season during all the fallout after she announced she was leaving, he called her the Pied Piper who all the kids would follow. She is the heart of the family and as big as a delulu jackwagon he is, he got that fact 100% right. 

What alternative story would he have wanted, I wonder?  One in which his kids all come running back to him, decrying Christine for lying about their wonderful blameless father?  Given how Kody has disparaged many of his kids on national  television, called them names and made them feel like garbage, that was never going to happen. 

Or maybe in another version, they wander around the planet as orphans, because Christine is a terrible human but Kody wants nothing to do with them, either.  Would that make him happy?

I think he rages at Christine because deep down, in that over-permed brain of his, he knows he messed up beyond repair with most of his non-Robyn kids, and it's far easier to blame Christine for turning those precious kids against him than it is to look in the mirror and see himself for who he really is.

 

1 minute ago, HoneyBeach said:

He's so full of shit, if you planted him in Janelle's garden, you could grow a whole other Kody. God forbid.

If Kody were fertilizer, that would be one messed-up strain of weed Janelle harvested. 

Edited December 18, 2023 by laurakaye

[RazzleberryPie]

Kody getting all upset at Christine laughing at him describing his mild Covid symptoms, meanwhile how many years was ysabel in pain needing back surgery, truly almost dying, etc while he burned steaks and chased after Robyn! Zero sympathy for Kodys ‘pain’ from me. 

Also Kody - just because your other family members do no see Robyn as the same person that you do, does not mean they never tried to be nice or have a relationship with her. It just means they saw what they saw and they don’t want to see any more. 

Janelle - you’re prob going to lose that $1k. If it gives them one more TLC season, and if Robyn can’t find another escape route out, there will be another sister wife. Now I will bet $1 that Robyn will eventually leave. She’s trying her best to set the stage now. That’s what Machiavellian behavior is like Kodster.

Also Machiavellian - trying to force the OG3 who are done with you and want to move on to come off camera and tell you it’s ok to have him by yourself. You’re legal wife, Kody chose you and your kids over everyone else, what do you want? A trophy? Wait you do have that million dollar house.

99% of Robyn’s problem is she is a control freak who has a hissy fit if anyone attempts to breathe without her approval. She takes no one else into consideration besides what they can do for her or how she sees them fitting in her life. Sometimes you don’t get the closure you want, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Have the life you deserve Robyn.

Meri - yeah she was treated like crap and manipulated, but she also treated others like crap and manipulated them. I still can’t muster much sympathy for her. 

 

[OldWiseOne]

16 hours ago, Ms.Lulu said:

Kody thinks Christine is asking the kids to side her. But that isn't what happened. She didn't pit Kody's kids against him. 

Kody is the one that chose not to have Christmas with his kids. Kody is the one that said the relationship would no longer be intimate. Kody is the one that left Christine's kids to go and get Robyn's kids to school.

Dude still believes Christine should have stayed and accepted scraps.

51 minutes ago, Rabbit Hutch said:

When Christine left many of the kids agreed with her decision.  Not saying there weren't other events and repercussions going on to help drive this, but the crap really hit the fan, then.  

Kootie is pretty uncomplicated, which is why Robyn shuts him down in conversations so often.  When he tell us what he is or what he's thinking, I think we can believe him.

When Christine decided that scraps weren't enough for her and left, it let the kids see that they didn't have to accept their father's scraps either.  She didn't need to trash talk him, those kids already knew how she had been treated because they had been treated in much the same way - as afterthoughts!

15 hours ago, CSunshine76 said:

Oh F off with your six pack abs Kody. You are no competition to Ryan Reynolds, I mean come on. DELUSIONAL.

Seriously, how many times did he mention his six pack abs? Dude you are on tv, we can clearly see there is no six pack hiding under that checked shirt and ill-fitting blazer!

 

[ButterQueen]

That little clip at the end of Robyn and Kody saying they are SO HAPPY for Christine was scary…..they came off as psychotic.

I really like David, and am so happy for Christine.  I loved rewatching the clips about dating again.  She cracked me up.  It was fun to watch the lunch clip again.  Poor Kooter was rolled up in a fetal position and meanie Christine laughed….as did Gwen apparently.  😂😂😂

I hope the kids stay away from Robyn and Kody.  She is such a liar and fraud, and he is the biggest ***hole on television.  His face looked so odd to me….like one cheek was almost flat.  It was way too smooth.  He and Robyn both look like dog poop.  They are aging horribly, while Janelle and Christine look so fresh and happy.  I don’t see Janelle ever resuming anything but a superficial friendship with Kody.  As usual, Meri looked like she just rolled out of bed.  Her makeup is too dark and her eyebrows look ridiculous.  I did appreciate her reply that she understood why she wouldn’t be invited to the wedding…..she didn’t want Christine to have anything negative on that day.  I imagine the OG3 will eventually be closer.  I love Janelle and Christine’s friendship.  It just shocks the sh*t out of me that Kody prefers unattractive, dowdy, frowny, no personality whatsoever Robyn over Christine’s fun and playful personality.  I felt so bad for Christine when she said Kody wouldn’t kiss her.  He’s a jack wagon.  I heard him again say “his” kids will need to come to him, Suki cut him off, but he’s despicable.  
 

 

Edited December 18, 2023 by ButterQueen

[islandgal140]

5 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

What alternative story would he have wanted, I wonder?  One in which his kids all come running back to him, decrying Christine for lying about their wonderful blameless father?  Given how Kody has disparaged many of his kids on national  television, called them names and made them feel like garbage, that was never going to happen. 

Or maybe in another version, they wander around the planet as orphans, because Christine is a terrible human but Kody wants nothing to do with them, either.  Would that make him happy?

 

He wanted a good old fashion, olde time religion shunning. Plain and simple. 

[ButterQueen]

It cracks me up how Kody keeps mentioning, ad nauseam, how Christine trashes him, but he keeps repeating that she was a “shitty sister wife”, he was never in love with her or attracted to her.  I loved when he said he hoped Christine could get over it and Suki replied, I think she’s over it….in a mocking tone.  😂😂

[HoneyBeach]

2 hours ago, TexasTiffany said:

Isn't that disgusting! He didn't care about them in the bedroom either. Just about his own pleasure. When each of his OG3 wives stopped having children, he had no use for them. 

 

I feel the same way. I didn't want K and R being included either. I want them to be left out in the cold and not profit from this. Since they are going to be shown, what I'm hoping now is we get to see K/R's reaction to seeing Christine win. I'm calling it a win. Christine got away, found love with a good guy, and moved on with her life. 

I'm sure Kody thought no one would ever want Christine since he loathed her. In his mind Christine was worthless but David and Christine getting married is confirmation that she's a catch. Kody, you loser! Christine wasn't alone for long. Another wound in Kody's side. She's not yesterday's leftovers to be thrown out in the trash. 

And deep down, Kody knows, Christine upgraded big time. (As far as we can currently see.) David is taller, broad-shouldered, doesn't need his wife to support him and doesn't appear to be anywhere near poverty, looks good bald and embraces it, has the love of his own children and some of Kody's too! I love it!!!

[applewood]

13 hours ago, xls said:

Did Kody say in part 3 or 4 that he wanted to punch someone? did I hear right?

the guy is scary psychopathic now!  

I remember way back in season 1 or 2 there was a scene where the whole family had either gone out to eat or gone to the mall or something as as the group was walking back to the car a couple of Janelle's boys got onto an argument I think with Paedon  over something stupid like who's going to sit where in the van and they really got loud and a police officer told them to break it up. Two seconds later Kody came over and thanked the officer and said something like "I was going to punch both of them in the face in a minute." At the time I thought: What a crappy father. He's the adult in this situation. Model better behavior for your sons.

[HoneyBeach]

38 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

What alternative story would he have wanted, I wonder?  One in which his kids all come running back to him, decrying Christine for lying about their wonderful blameless father?  Given how Kody has disparaged many of his kids on national  television, called them names and made them feel like garbage, that was never going to happen. 

Or maybe in another version, they wander around the planet as orphans, because Christine is a terrible human but Kody wants nothing to do with them, either.  Would that make him happy?

I think he rages at Christine because deep down, in that over-permed brain of his, he knows he messed up beyond repair with most of his non-Robyn kids, and it's far easier to blame Christine for turning those precious kids against him than it is to look in the mirror and see himself for who he really is.

 

If Kody were fertilizer, that would be one messed-up strain of weed Janelle harvested. 

I totally believe he KNOWS. He's just so far gone and prideful, he refuses to turn back. I think of the conversation with Ysabel and Christine regarding his refusal to get her the surgery, when she says "I won't do it daddy, I won't get the surgery, I promise." (paraphrased) For a split second, you can see it in his eyes, he KNOWS he's effing up, he KNOWS he's being a lousy dad. I actually held my breath during that clip thinking maybe he'd do the right thing, but he must of thought "Robyn won't like it" and poof, it's gone. He instead doubles down and makes her promise not to blame him or be bitter. I have to say, that scene was the point of no return for me with this jackass.

[Granny58]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

Robyn needs permission to be happy! Really? Did she need permission when she and Kody got rid of the family claddagh rings? Did she need permission when they bought the pair of matching gold jackass rings? Did she need permission when she got a new wedding ring set? 

THIS!   The permission BS is just to be a victim.  

[BAForever]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

I think he rages at Christine because deep down, in that over-permed brain of his, he knows he messed up beyond repair with most of his non-Robyn kids, and it's far easier to blame Christine for turning those precious kids against him than it is to look in the mirror and see himself for who he really is.

 

This times 1000. It's just like at the end of Pretty in Pink when Andrew McCarthy calls out Jes Spader as s***.  Kody knows he messed up, so he rages. (Had to get that movie reference in).

[OldWiseOne]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

I think he rages at Christine because deep down, in that over-permed brain of his, he knows he messed up beyond repair with most of his non-Robyn kids, and it's far easier to blame Christine for turning those precious kids against him than it is to look in the mirror and see himself for who he really is.

He is so jealous of the relationships that Christine has with those kids, and it is beyond his comprehension why they all love her more than they love their father! You get what you give douchebag.

[Roslyn]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

He wanted a good old fashion, olde time religion shunning. Plain and simple. 

Warren Jeffs style ?

[Absolom]

Did Discovery + fix the glitch to get the episode streaming?  Youtubetv hasn't.

[MsMalin]

Listen Kody, if parents get divorced,the kids will want to know why. And this "we grew apart" shit doesn't cut it. So Christine discussed that you no longer were attracted to her plus they can see everything right there on their tv.

[altopower]

2 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said:

Sometimes you don’t get the closure you want, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Boy, here's a real truth that we've all experienced. I have no sympathy for Robyn on this. You don't get to tell the OG wives to come to you, kiss your horse ring, and depart from the fambly with your blessing and freedom to live with Kody in monogamy. That's not the way any of this works, you moron.

[General Days]

2 hours ago, HoneyBeach said:

He's so full of shit, if you planted him in Janelle's garden, you could grow a whole other Kody. God forbid.

 

That's hilarious!

 

2 hours ago, laurakaye said:

If Kody were fertilizer, that would be one messed-up strain of weed Janelle harvested. 

 

Also hilarious!

 

2 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

It cracks me up how Kody keeps mentioning, ad nauseam, how Christine trashes him, but he keeps repeating that she was a “shitty sister wife”, he was never in love with her or attracted to her.  I loved when he said he hoped Christine could get over it and Suki replied, I think she’s over it….in a mocking tone.  😂😂

 

Right? Kody trashes Christine all the time. To the extent that Kody doesn't trash Christine to the (OG13) kids, it's only that none of them will talk to him.

(Okay, that's not exactly true, but it is true in my heart.)

 

16 minutes ago, MsMalin said:

Listen Kody, if parents get divorced,the kids will want to know why. And this "we grew apart" shit doesn't cut it. So Christine discussed that you no longer were attracted to her plus they can see everything right there on their tv.

 

Christine's older girls (i.e. not Truely) knew their mom wasn't being treated right. They maybe didn't know about the end of intimacy, but they saw how he treated her (and them) in comparison to Robyn (and her children), and they told Christine how they felt about it. I believe this happened long before Christine talked about anything with them. 

I am pretty sure Christine started talking to them (and to Maddie) about it, only once she had made up her mind to leave and needed to summon her courage to do it.

[toodywoody]

6 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

I think he was talking about some of his non-Robyn offspring.  He called them a**holes in a previous episode. Regardless of which family members he was referring to, both statements were uncalled for. I repeat my earlier thought: if numerous people tell you the same thing as to what the problem is, they are usually correct. 

 

See, this is the shit why his kids don't talk to him. 

And if he's so fucking worried about being bad mouthed by Christine, then shouldn't he be making an effort to talk to them and be present in their lives to prove her trash talking wrong? 

But no, he continues to trash talk her, says he wants to punch anyone that talks bad about Robyn in the mouth and calls his own flesh and blood assholes. 

Hey, Kidney, no one needs to bad mouth you. All the shit is spewing from your own mouth because you're a nasty piece of crap to say everything you have said about your kids and their mothers.

[dariafan]

In the preview , Robyn is going to hurt herself thrashing around !

[surfgirl]

29 minutes ago, dariafan said:

In the preview , Robyn is going to hurt herself thrashing around !

Maybe she'll knife herself in her Kodney? 

[xwordfanatik]

On the plus side, for part 4:  David is a man in love.

On the minus side:  way too much Kootie.  For someone who never loved Christine, he certainly is seething that she left his rotten ass.  

Go ahead, Kootie, keep telling everyone what a good man you are, and how unfair it is that the wife you never loved, is trash-talking you to your kids.  You're full of shit, and prove it every time you open your mouth.  

Crybrows wanting the OG 3 wive's blessings is hilarious.  😂

[OldWiseOne]

2 hours ago, altopower said:

Boy, here's a real truth that we've all experienced. I have no sympathy for Robyn on this. You don't get to tell the OG wives to come to you, kiss your horse ring, and depart from the fambly with your blessing and freedom to live with Kody in monogamy. That's not the way any of this works, you moron.

Sorry Crybrows, the OG3 no longer need to bow to your wishes to stay in Kodouche's good books.

[Meow Mix]

So Kody vetted Robyn hard.  Eeewww, did not need the mental image that conjured up.

Christine got positively giddy when David came on the set.  It is clear the two of them are in love.  I hope things go well for them and that he is sincere and not just trying to get on TV.  I did like some of his answers, though I wish he would have shut things down when Suki tried to ask him why he thought Christine and Kody's marriage failed.  That's not something that's appropriate for him to answer.  I did love it when he responded to Kody's speculation that he was going to come to Kody one day complaining about Christine.  He just quietly said that wasn't going to happen.

I can understand why Christine is so smitten.  It has to be a revelation to her to have a guy who actually wants her.  Kody missed no opportunity to tell her and the viewing audience how he wasn't attracted to her, never loved her, and found her disgusting.  And the fact that he never kissed her must have been horrible.  I'm glad she gets to have someone who is showing her that she is desirable.  I hope all the OG3 get that from someone.

I laughed at Robyn's fake crying yet again as she said that she just can't be happy unless the OG3 come to the precious moments emporium to release her from her bond or whatever she was on about.  I especially found it interesting that she wanted it off camera.  That tells me that if they actually did it, she would lie about what happened and no one could check previous episodes to see her lies.  Talk about Machiavellian.  My guess is she's setting the stage to leave him and putting the blame on the evil wives yet again.  Either way, it would be amusing if the OG3 called her bluff and went together to set her free.  They could even make up a huge banner to get it through to her.  They are clearly done.  

Kody is really getting a little scary.  When they showed the scene where Christine was talking with Aspyn and Mykelti you could feel the rage coming through the TV.  That little square in the corner was about to burst into flames.  I agree with everyone else, it's not trash talk when he has made no secret of his feelings for Christine all along.  Mykelti wasn't agreeing to gain favor with Christine (please), she was agreeing because she knew it was true.  She and most of the adult kids have watched the show and heard what Kody says about Christine.  And also about some of them.  Why would anyone want to talk to someone who called them an a**hole on national TV?

I know most won't agree, but on some level I do feel bad for Meri.  She made some terrible decisions which brought her to this point, but there does come a point where people just get in the habit of finding fault with you and it gets old.  i appreciated her gracious take on Christine's wedding and it seemed she genuinely wishes her the best.  I felt Christine came across as a bit of a mean girl talking about inviting Meri's child, but not her.  She has the right to invite who she wants, but at least be a little sensitive knowing that Kody treated Meri just as poorly as he treated Christine. 

I have said before that in some ways (not the terrible choices) I identify with Meri because I have a low speaking voice and I am not pretty and bubbly like Christine.  It does make a difference in how people treat you and respond to you.  If Meri had said some of the things Christine said in these episodes, she would have been labeled evil, but Christine being attractive can get away with it.  I hope Meri can get with a good therapist and get to the bottom of her issues and make better choices going forward.  I do want her to find people who lover her as she is rather than complaining that she doesn't fit into some box they created.  But she needs to quit lying to herself and quit filtering her pictures.  People will not love you for who you are if you keep pretending to be someone else.  

ETA: One more question, in the preview for Christine's wedding episode toward the very end of the preview there was a shot of someone in pink sweats and a white top sitting on the floor of what looked like a hotel seemingly upset.  I couldn't tell what they were saying or who it was.  Did anyone catch that or did I imagine it?  I did laugh at Kody and Robyn's "best wishes" for Christine.  And the stupid visor made another appearance.

Edited December 19, 2023 by Meow Mix
Forgot something.

[Julyolo]

6 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

He wanted a good old fashion, olde time religion shunning. Plain and simple. 

Well, this is one aspect of all the wives defecting I would have liked to hear about. My understanding was, like it our not, the religion that was the justification for the 4 marriages is patriarchal in nature, for the most part.  I would have liked to hear Kody mansplain how he now views his eternal future to be looking. Robyn acting as if other wives had to come to her, and let her know that her gig as a sister wife to them was over, seemed contradictory based on what rudimentary knowledge I possessed about how the faith works, or in this case, didnt. It came off to me as if Robyn viewed herself as wife #1, co-ruler with King Kody. The lack of discussion by Robyn and Kody about any plans they had for maintaining a relationship the remaining minor children of Christine's  was very strange. I totally agree with other posters that the glue holding Kody and Robyn's marriage together was the other 3 wives. He could visit the others to remind Robyn he was a superstud, and when he didn't go, Robyn was sure she was the world's most desirable woman...in Flagstaff anyway, lol. The other issue Kody and Robyn needed to be pressed on was how once children become adults, a parent can expect to still be in charge of, or control their decisions! They are both so dictatorial and judgemental, no wonder no one wants to have anything to do with either of them.

[whydoievencare]

My husband has never seen this show but was in hearing distance of it when Kody was talking - it only took him two minutes to ask what was up with that asshole!  Two minutes!!!

[LotusFlower]

48 minutes ago, Meow Mix said:

ETA: One more question, in the preview for Christine's wedding episode toward the very end of the preview there was a shot of someone in pink sweats and a white top sitting on the floor of what looked like a hotel seemingly upset.  I couldn't tell what they were saying or who it was.  Did anyone catch that or did I imagine it?  I did laugh at Kody and Robyn's "best wishes" for Christine.  And the stupid visor made another appearance.

That was Christine!  I agree she looked different.  And my prediction is that she's not really upset, she's probably more overwhelmed at everything that's happening. 

And Robyn's "we're so happy for Christine" wish was total sarcasm.  Mocking Christine for wishing her and Kody all the best.  Those two are the worst.