S20.E08: Uncut Hems

[dleighg]

10 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

The wonky cone boobs took away from Laurence’s dress, but it looked beautiful from the back.

Yeah, on the runway walk-through I hated that look, especially the boobs. But when they showed it in more detail, the back was quite nice, with the belt loops encircling the back. She did a nice job. I still hated it. 

[TakomaSnark]

9 minutes ago, sempervivum said:

Julia Fox generally shows up on gossip/trash sites looking like she just crawled naked through a pile of laundry, so I was surprised by her lack of enthusiasm for Anna's look. 

Am I misremembering? It seemed she and Elaine were the ones gushing over Anna's thing.

[dleighg]

when Christian saved Rami, everyone cheered. Are they idiots? That's one more competitor, and no chance for your own save.

[jackjill]

13 minutes ago, dleighg said:

when Christian saved Rami, everyone cheered. Are they idiots? That's one more competitor, and no chance for your own save.

I think it just goes to show how much they like Rami. 

[swankie]

49 minutes ago, TakomaSnark said:

Am I misremembering? It seemed she and Elaine were the ones gushing over Anna's thing.

She was.  Guest judge actually said she would wear Anna's piece of crap creation.  But looking back at her taste (or lack thereof) in clothes I'm not surprised. 

[Fukui San]

I think Anna's look would have been more interesting if she had used different colors of denim to create "stripes" instead of a monocolor outfit. (Also if it were better made, but given the time constraints it was what it was.)

The only thing I remember from the previous denim challenge unprompted was that Victorya made a long jacket/dress because her long jacket/dress was praised by the judges in the previous challenge with her avant garde collaboration with Jillian. But that time it didn't come off well. Also, people did stuff with little red "Levi's" tags as a design element.

[SuburbanHangSuite]

1 hour ago, meep.meep said:

So why didn't Anna just rinse her fabric like everyone else?  It was already white.

So I have a theory that Anna didn't believe Korto when she told her that she needed to rinse the whole garment.  I think she planned to ignore that advice and just dress her model in the bleachy garments until the other designers (and maybe production) stepped in and set her straight.   

[jabRI]

14 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

thought Anna’s was the worst and she shouldn’t get credit because she made it in five hours, she had the same time as everyone else.

AND korto was suprisingly nice enuf to give her bleach tips that she was too tired to implement.  So over Anna.

[cinsays]

11 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

The wonky cone boobs took away from Laurence’s dress, but it looked beautiful from the back. I was surprised to have loved Korto’s design, because I haven’t enjoyed many of her looks this season. I thought it looked very chic and I loved the double sleeve. I, too, loved Bishme’s jacket and Brittany’s outfit. Prajje was very lucky this week- his look was too much.

so i guess laurence wanted the boob area to be distracting? otherwise, she could easily have lined that area with more denim layers, no?

[BlackberryJam]

I thought Anna's dress idea had real potential, if she'd had another 3 days to work on it. I just don't get the Anna hate. It reminded me a lopsided tiered cake. It could have been really cool. At least she had an idea with interest and merit, unlike Prajje. Ugh. Seriously, UGH. I like Anna's ideas and vision, so her personality doesn't grate on me. 

I love me some Rami and I want him to dress Rania, Queen of Jordan every single day, but his aesthetic has become stale. He's in his wheelhouse dressing women in their 40s, when the show wants him to dress 20 year olds. His attempts at fresh and young just fail. And I love him. It hurts me every single time I see him putting together something as dowdy as that outfit. Not even Mimi could have sold that. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by BlackberryJam

[Brynnjk]

15 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

Oh, I was gonna be out, out, out if they actually sent Rami home.

These guest judges should not have this much input. 'Going viral just going to the grocery store' is a qualification? I'll bet I could go viral in that outfit, and not for good reasons.

This season is pissing me off. Why is it such an ill fitting dress on a couture show?

Right there with you.  I am soooooooooooooooo over Korto and all her talking heads.  Rami is one of the few left that I actually enjoy watching.  

[Madding crowd]

23 minutes ago, BlackberryJam said:

I thought Anna's dress idea had real potential, if she'd had another 3 days to work on it. I just don't get the Anna hate. It reminded me a lopsided tiered cake. It could have been really cool. At least she had an idea with interest and merit, unlike Prajje. Ugh. Seriously, UGH. I like Anna's ideas and vision, so her personality doesn't grate on me. 

I love me some Rami and I want him to dress Rania, Queen of Jordan every single day, but his aesthetic has become stale. He's in his wheelhouse dressing women in their 40s, when the show wants him to dress 20 year olds. His attempts at fresh and young just fail. And I love him. It hurts me every single time I see him putting together something as dowdy as that outfit. Not even Mimi could have sold that. 

None of the judges are 20 year olds so I don’t think that is what they are looking for or want. They do like things that are different and not seen before but they also want it well made which is difficult given the time limits. They also could have brought back PR juniors if they are more interested in teen/college age fashion. 

[carrps]

1 hour ago, SuburbanHangSuite said:

So I have a theory that Anna didn't believe Korto when she told her that she needed to rinse the whole garment.  I think she planned to ignore that advice and just dress her model in the bleachy garments until the other designers (and maybe production) stepped in and set her straight. 

Anna is an f'ing liar who lies. I'm sure she was going to just pretend she rinsed her bleached denim, because Korto told her when no one else was there. When it was brought up at their ice cream social, Anna knew the jig was up. Waaah, poor me, I did this in only five hours. Gah. I really want to swear right now.

Elaine is looking like mutton dressed as lamb. She's not all that old, but she looks like she's trying to be younger and cooler than she is. 

I don't follow much gossip, so I think I may have heard Julie Fox's name, but I had no idea who she was. The first thing on google was that she was a Kanye ex. I said 'yep, that tracks."

[buttersister]

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wanted to add that it really disappointed me when Korto said that she told someone she was ready to go all 'Rosa Parks … and Martin Luther King

Oh yeah. Sorry, Korto, not their style. Unless you meant you were going to sit down and not move, wth? I’d wear her outfit, though, and bless her for telling Anna not to be burning her model. Obviously, Anna didn’t care.

Cant wait until CS grows up and doesn’t gloat over his shop, er, atelier to other, less famous designers. Dude.

 I believe Christian’s save of Rami will be my favorite moment of this entire season. Unless, you know, Rami wins. 🎁

[dleighg]

1 minute ago, buttersister said:

Cant wait until CS grows up and doesn’t gloat over his shop, er, atelier to other, less famous designers. Dude.

Yeah, and he's also getting really full of himself in his workroom critiques. And his swanning about is getting old. Maybe he can't help himself, but he seems to think that is his "signature." It doesn't have to be. He has plenty of good ideas which can be his "signature."

[Salacious Kitty]

20 minutes ago, dleighg said:

Yeah, and he's also getting really full of himself in his workroom critiques. And his swanning about is getting old. Maybe he can't help himself, but he seems to think that is his "signature." It doesn't have to be. He has plenty of good ideas which can be his "signature."

Going to Christian's store was probably production's idea. Why go all the way to Connecticut to load up on jeans? They could have done that in Brooklyn. 

[TakomaSnark]

15 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Going to Christian's store was probably production's idea. Why go all the way to Connecticut to load up on jeans? They could have done that in Brooklyn. 

That location opened in 2022, so I'm sure this was seen as a good way to promote the place. What I'm wondering is what is up with his gorgeous spot in Manhattan, which has been 'temporarily closed' for a while now.

 

[carrps]

3 minutes ago, TakomaSnark said:

What I'm wondering is what is up with his gorgeous spot in Manhattan, which has been 'temporarily closed' for a while now.

 

Are they doing massive remodeling or something? I remember it being gorgeous, but seriously small. Maybe's he outgrown it and is looking for a new place.

[CrazyInAlabama]

The NYC store, The Curated NYC,  is 'temporarily closed', it was a multibrand boutique, and included a lot of different clothing and houseware lines.  Last year Christian opened a store in Connecticut, called The Collective West.  New store is in Westport, CT.   I suspect they went to Connecticut because that's where Christian's store is.   

I had tears in my eyes last night when Christian saved Rami.   I still wonder how anyone could like Laurance's dress with the empty chest pointy cups.    Anna's creation was just as awful. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by CrazyInAlabama

[TakomaSnark]

30 minutes ago, carrps said:

Are they doing massive remodeling or something? I remember it being gorgeous, but seriously small. Maybe's he outgrown it and is looking for a new place.

I want to say that it might have been an asset he and Brad Walsh were fighting over in their divorce but I may be Mandela Effect-ing that memory.

[BloggerAloud]

17 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

Bishme's coat was amazing. On the subject of coats, I am sick of the oversized puffer coats that seem to make a regular appearance on the runway.

 

The best talking head of the episode was Laurence talking about exactly how many puffer coats are they going to make this season of the show.

[dleighg]

8 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

The best talking head of the episode was Laurence talking about exactly how many puffer coats are they going to make this season of the show

It does seem rather lazy. You get a lot of "drama" (if you're into that sort of thing) without a lot of technical difficulty. Fit? Shmit!

[anniebird]

I love Christian Siriano and would probably not still be watching Project Runway were it not for him. 

[T Summer]

1 hour ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

The NYC store, The Curated NYC,  is 'temporarily closed', it was a multibrand boutique, and included a lot of different clothing and houseware lines.  Last year Christian opened a store in Connecticut, called The Collective West.  New store is in Westport, CT.

Get Out! I did not know that! I'm a hop. skip and a jump away!

Now,  if I only had the budget 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[Kitty Redstone]

Like many others I'm very happy that Rami was saved, though he shouldn't have been the one to be aufed. I rarely understand the judging on this show.

To wit, the bullseye boobs on Laurance's dress. Fucking hideous.

Bishme's coat was amazing and I actually liked the dress underneath. Korto's look should have been the winner. It was innovative and the way she dyed the fabric was beautiful. 

[dleighg]

32 minutes ago, Kitty Redstone said:

It was innovative and the way she dyed the fabric was beautiful

As a teen of the seventies, and a child of the sixties, I raised an eyebrow at the extended description of "what tie dye is" with the rubber bands, etc. 

I did that in girl scout troops. Maybe kids these days have no idea how it worked.

[Kitty Redstone]

Maybe. I've seen a lot of bad (ugly) tie dye and appreciated the simple yet beautiful pattern she created on the denim. It's the first thing she's made all season that I really liked.

[Wicked]

I really don't think there were any bad looks tonight

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Going to Christian's store was probably production's idea. Why go all the way to Connecticut to load up on jeans? They could have done that in Brooklyn. 

I think it was also a way to promote Christian's partnership with Gloria Vanderbilt on a line of jeans, etc., and also a good way to get rid of all those old GV jeans that were probably sitting in a warehouse somewhere (and, as someone said - clean out that one room in Christian's store).

[retired watcher]

Did not like Laurence's dress at all. Korto really thought she was the winner. She should have gone home last week.

[candall]

11 hours ago, BAForever said:

Agree with all comments- what a shitshow judging was. Prajje should have been gone. I'm all for model inclusion, but to keep a level field how about a challenge where all models are "curvy"? This one would have been really interesting with that caveat.

Or just throw everything on Mimi, one after another.  I'll wait.

 

5 hours ago, meep.meep said:

...

I think Rami's model being heavier was one reason why he ended up in the bottom.  The judges seem to have unrecognized bias against the larger models.

...

 

I can't believe there isn't more debate and/or outrage about the model size discrepancy in this head-to-head showdown. 

In the first pairing, the first model has very distinctive back creases trapped under the suspenders in her nude back square, which the camera only shows for a split second.  She's followed immediately by Mimi prancing in and dazzling everyone with the fluffy jacket.  Mimi stop, turns, and looks over her shoulder on the way out, emphasizing another nude back.  But I don't think "hey, no back flab," I just think, "ooh, pretty."  

In the second pairing, Korto has bundled her stick-thin model into a heavy voluminous jacket with a pronounced peplum and little peek-a-boo flashes in front.  Rami's model pooches out through his cage design.  It was painful; I couldn't stop wincing.  Switch 'em up and let's take another look.

In the third pairing, I expected Anna's diagonal jean yokes on the conventionally tall thin model to win over Kara Saun's plus size gladiator button strips.  Was it that stupid lip chain?  Or was it too obvious to choose the thin model design over the big model design three times in a row?

 

I'm just keenly frustrated because I think it's an unfair disadvantage.  People come in all different shapes and sizes--the one that best showcases clothing designs on the runway is the coatrack model.  There aren't any 5'2" models in the mix just to even out the statuesque numbers, even though most women aren't up around six feet tall.

Pfaaa.

 

 

[OlderThanDirt]

I wish that Rami would play to his strength and do some draping. But of course they have been controlling the fabric choices in the most recent episodes.  

[gorgy]

• I was exited for this challenge, since I spent a long time trying to find a similar pair of jeans Christian made where denim jacket sleeves were the leg openings. (it was 2006 and I was like 20 years old, okay)
• I hate one day challenges (I repeat again and again)
• I liked Prajje's look just fine. Similar to all black outfits, denim can have a hard time reading the details on a television screen, so I think his look would come off better in real life. Bishme's was kinda boring, to be honest. The jacket saved him.
• Kara Saun and Anna had the two worst looks for me. I actually appreciated what Anna was going for more so, even though I'm a Kara fanboy.
• Korto had a strong showing, but her skirt looked like bike shorts to me for some reason. 
• Rami's top was good, but I agreed with the judges that his bottom was awful in this fabrication. Oh well, he'll be back back back again.

[BAForever]

20 minutes ago, candall said:

I'm just keenly frustrated because I think it's an unfair disadvantage.  People come in all different shapes and sizes--the one that best showcases clothing designs on the runway is the coatrack model.  There aren't any 5'2" models in the mix just to even out the statuesque numbers, even though most women aren't up around six feet tall.

Pfaaa.

It's bothered me for awhile, but I'm hesitant to speak out as I'm afraid I'll misspeak (misstype) and it will come out wrong. Thank you for stating in a coherent, yet kind way. 

Edited July 29, 2023 by BAForever
Clarity

[Leeds]

Unlike a lot of people here, I like Nina.  I hope she's okay, because it seems odd that she'd be out on a "planned absence" for two consecutive weeks on a relatively short series.  In the past there has sometimes been at least a quick explanation - "X is in LA", or even those weird Sheldon-esque (How I Met your Mother) Heidi on a screen episodes.

Does anyone have any news as to where she is?

[Blueboxes]

11 hours ago, SuburbanHangSuite said:

until the other designers (and maybe production) stepped in and set her straight.   

I absolutely think production said something to Anna. Because she was pouting in her ice cream which is what caused Pradje to ask what was bothering her. I suspect production pulled her aside and said "you cannot burn your model tomorrow."

Overall this was one of the better runways I've seen on the show. Even the losing looks had merit. 

That "celebrity" judge was awful.

Poor Rami, I think his client base is not what the judges are looking for and he knows that. I knew Christian was going to save him but it may have been kinder to let him leave. He's trying to be something he's not when there's really nothing wrong with what he does irl. 

I may be in the minority but I love Christian. I think his critiques are very spot on and he makes me laugh.

[T Summer]

I would love to see  the contestants have to show their design on  both someone with  a traditional fashion model 's   height and proportions and a plus size model!

 

Not the first time I've suggested this.

 

[30 Helens]

 

On 7/27/2023 at 9:44 PM, roctavia said:

I would have put Laurance in the bottom... that boobs/ vagina arrow were terrible... 

In the judge’s segment, I was channeling Michael Kors making fun of the arrow pointing straight to the vagina. And Heidi was agreeing with him. Ah, those were the days, when judging made sense.

Also, apparently nobody told Laurence that for most women, one boob is always bigger than the other. I wouldn’t have liked the dress even if both boobs had matched, but with more thorough measuring, maybe she could have avoided the messy display of One Puckered Nipple. 

I don’t hate Anna like so many others here, and I thought her design was very interesting albeit unfinished, but I really hated her wide-eyed innocent act over the bleach. Do you not see the cameras, Liar? We know Korto told you to rinse it. (And I was really puzzled as to why she didn’t. Had time already run out? Did she not think it would dry overnight? Or is she really so conceited that she can’t take advice?)

15 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

 I just love looking at Christian's hair styles from the season.  I may giggle a bit when I see them.  That was a great season (RIP Chris March).

Ah, Cockatoo Christian. What a lovable annoying (fierce!) little brat he was.  It’s really remarkable to see how far he’s come from that tiny little room he was living and designing in before that 4th season. I can still picture Tim Gunn’s visit to that glorified walk-in closet. Christian’s focus and dedication were evident from the start, and I’m so happy for the success he has achieved. (And I agree with you about Chris March— what a joy he was to watch, and what a sad loss of energy and talent.)

I’m really touched to see that the bond between Christian and Rami has endured. Back then, they were true peers and Rami was perhaps seen as the more likely to succeed, even. But while Rami has not achieved the same level of success, he does not seem to hold any bitterness. They both clearly have great respect for each other, and I think that’s why Christian used his save. Not out of nostalgia, not from pity, but because he knows first hand how great (fierce!) Rami really is. Not gonna lie, that save made me tear up a little.

3 hours ago, candall said:

I'm just keenly frustrated because I think it's an unfair disadvantage.  People come in all different shapes and sizes--the one that best showcases clothing designs on the runway is the coatrack model.  

I agree with your analysis. I’m all for inclusion— in no way should Size One exemplify the ultimate standard. But it’s one thing to advocate for appreciation of all sizes and shapes, it’s another to have these different shapes affect the outcome of a competition where all things should be equal.

I’m not saying that the plus size size models place their designers at a disadvantage— not at all. But if the focus is on the garment, then all garments should be presented in a similar context. Ideally, one model would wear all the designs. But barring that, the models should at least share a very similar height and body size. This could change week to week, as long as it stayed consistent across designers.

I also get annoyed when the judges take off points for styling, because they don’t like the footwear or jewelry that the designer didn’t even create and had limited options for. But that’s an argument for another day.

[Fake Jan Brady]

The Siriano Save would've been more of a surprise if we hadn't already seen Christian asking Rami if he really wants to be there on the "coming up" bits in at least two episodes already, which we haven't seen actually happen yet.

Plus Christian kind of owed him, after telling Rami "you have to make this skirt" when Rami was wavering about it during the walk through.

Edited July 29, 2023 by Fake Jan Brady

[GeorgiaRai]

I have no fashion sense or knowledge, so my references are pop culture:

Laurence's design: The wedding dress fitting scene in The Proposal where Sandra Bullock doesn't have boobs to fill out Betty White's gown. 

Anna's design: Flashback to General Larry Platt's American Idol classic, "Pants on the Ground."

Korto's design: Kimmy Gibler called & wants her outfit back; please add a hair scrunchie. 

Edited July 29, 2023 by GeorgiaRai

[peachmangosteen]

14 hours ago, dleighg said:

As a teen of the seventies, and a child of the sixties, I raised an eyebrow at the extended description of "what tie dye is" with the rubber bands, etc. 

Yea, I was so confused by everyone acting like they'd never heard of tie dye before.

10 hours ago, Leeds said:

Unlike a lot of people here, I like Nina.  I hope she's okay, because it seems odd that she'd be out on a "planned absence" for two consecutive weeks on a relatively short series.  In the past there has sometimes been at least a quick explanation - "X is in LA", or even those weird Sheldon-esque (How I Met your Mother) Heidi on a screen episodes.

Does anyone have any news as to where she is?

I just assume she had covid.

[Leeds]

9 hours ago, Blueboxes said:

I absolutely think production said something to Anna. Because she was pouting in her ice cream which is what caused Pradje to ask what was bothering her. I suspect production pulled her aside and said "you cannot burn your model tomorrow."

Overall this was one of the better runways I've seen on the show. Even the losing looks had merit. 

That "celebrity" judge was awful. 

I may be in the minority but I love Christian. I think his critiques are very spot on and he makes me laugh.

I love him too and his schtick makes me laugh.

 

[ichbin]

On 7/28/2023 at 5:55 AM, BAForever said:

Agree with all comments- what a shitshow judging was. Prajje should have been gone. I'm all for model inclusion, but to keep a level field how about a challenge where all models are "curvy"?

I agree, but my caveat is that they all actually can walk instead of lumbering along like some of them have been doing.  Remember when a model's ability to walk well was one of the reasons they were chosen for runway work, when. a model could really sell a look? Like Mimi.  Even Laurence's model this week played a part in her getting the win. Imagine that gown on the same model if she wasn't able to glide and present it in the best way possible. The models in this season and several of the recent past have put a lot of designers at a disadvantage.  

[Cheyanne11]

Anna giving Christian that "I didn't knowwww" routine about the bleach was so manipulative.  Korto and then Laurenc later both told her about rinsing it.  Seriously think she's working the "everyone feel sorry for me" routine and it's annoying af.

As to the judging, what else is new--it's always been insane.  I'm just glad Elaine has toned down the "my man Praije" comments she made continuously during his other season.  Like, maybe make it less obvious you've got a pet/favorite.

So happy Rami was saved and love his and Christian's dynamic.  A save well used.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

I was catching up on episodes because I missed a few.  These judges have been unduly harsh to Rami throughout the season.  He is so skillful but they do not appreciate those skills. I do think they see him as old fashioned or outdated rather than classic.  I think his outfit this time would have been more successful if he got rid of the caging at the top and only left it at the bottom.  The top was interesting and flattering. 

Elaine is just a useless, highly biased judge.  Then add in the guest judge for the week and we have two people with no taste desperate to prove how cool and edgy they are.  Also the guest judge seemed to be unable to sit up.  It was very distracting.  I would have loved to have seen Nina's reaction to her.  Nina can give a look. 

I liked everything about Laurence's dress except the cone boobs.  The funny moment was when the voiceover was of one of the judges saying it looked couture and the camera focused in on the cones.  That's what makes it couture?  😁

I generally like Christian, but I am finding him too intrusive in his critiques.  He goes beyond pointing out his concerns by telling people how he thinks he should fix them.  If it was sewing advice, fine.  But it is often a major design change. 

 

[ichbin]

43 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Elaine is just a useless, highly biased judge. 

I'm gong to add that her bias seems to not be based on fashion either.  

But as has been pointed to repeatedly in this forum, the judging overall has become ridiculous.  This week one of them praised the outstanding fit of one of the skirts (Bishme's??) while the camera clearly showed that was the worst part of the design.  It did not fit properly at all.  It was hiked up and bunched in the back at the waist. 

 

6 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

21 hours ago, dleighg said:

As a teen of the seventies, and a child of the sixties, I raised an eyebrow at the extended description of "what tie dye is" with the rubber bands, etc. 

Yea, I was so confused by everyone acting like they'd never heard of tie dye before.

Don't even have to go back that far.  Even my kids both did tie-dye projects during summer activities at camps and even the library and there's a decade between them.  It's not exactly a forgotten art. This show has become an exercise in gaslighting.

[carrps]

11 minutes ago, ichbin said:

I'm gong to add that her bias seems to not be based on fashion either.

Give her the gong!

 

[RoseAllDay]

I did not like Laurance’s look at all. From the cone boobs to the spikes to the crotch, nope. But what do I know? Based on the decision — not much, apparently.

The passive-aggressiveness was just oozing from Kara Saun toward Anna, and I didn’t care. The fact that Anna wanted her model to wear a garment with unwashed bleach? Really? That shit BURNS. Her “new” garment was a mess, and I was kind of pissed that the judges felt the need to bring her into Kara Saun’s critique, and give her a bit of praise to boot. It looked like she just pinned a bunch of denim shorts together and called it a day. I can’t stand her fragile flower act, and I cannot wait until she’s gone.

Korto brings her African aesthetic almost every week, in quiet ways that make a statement without hitting us over the head with it, like was discussed last week as per other designers. I respect that. 

I have to say Mimi is about the most stunning model PR has ever had. She takes my breath away. 

No problem with the Siriano Save used for Rami.

Who is this Julia Fox person?

Oh, goody…Cap’n Sandy infests the runway next week. My deepest and heartfelt sympathies to whoever gets her. Get ready to be micromanaged into oblivion.

2 hours ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

I was catching up on episodes because I missed a few.  These judges have been unduly harsh to Rami throughout the season.  He is so skillful but they do not appreciate those skills. I do think they see him as old fashioned or outdated rather than classic.  I think his outfit this time would have been more successful if he got rid of the caging at the top and only left it at the bottom.  The top was interesting and flattering. 

Elaine is just a useless, highly biased judge.  Then add in the guest judge for the week and we have two people with no taste desperate to prove how cool and edgy they are.  Also the guest judge seemed to be unable to sit up.  It was very distracting.  I would have loved to have seen Nina's reaction to her.  Nina can give a look. 

I liked everything about Laurence's dress except the cone boobs.  The funny moment was when the voiceover was of one of the judges saying it looked couture and the camera focused in on the cones.  That's what makes it couture?  😁

I generally like Christian, but I am finding him too intrusive in his critiques.  He goes beyond pointing out his concerns by telling people how he thinks he should fix them.  If it was sewing advice, fine.  But it is often a major design change. 

 

He’s got a way of making them doubt themselves, which leads to the last-minute massive overhauls in design, and it’s something I don’t particularly care for in him. It’s not helpful. He’s supposed to be offering constructive criticism, not messing with their heads. These are the times I miss Tim Gunn.

Edited July 29, 2023 by RoseAllDay

[dleighg]

45 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

I did not like Laurance’s look at all. From the cone boobs to the spikes to the crotch, nope. But what do I know? Based on the decision — not much, apparently.

I was taking notes about each pairing with who I thought should win each (I was two for four). For Laurance I wrote "hate it, but the judges will probably love it"

[cinsays]

3 hours ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

I was catching up on episodes because I missed a few.  These judges have been unduly harsh to Rami throughout the season.  He is so skillful but they do not appreciate those skills. I do think they see him as old fashioned or outdated rather than classic.  I think his outfit this time would have been more successful if he got rid of the caging at the top and only left it at the bottom.  The top was interesting and flattering. 

Elaine is just a useless, highly biased judge.  Then add in the guest judge for the week and we have two people with no taste desperate to prove how cool and edgy they are.  Also the guest judge seemed to be unable to sit up.  It was very distracting.  I would have loved to have seen Nina's reaction to her.  Nina can give a look. 

I liked everything about Laurence's dress except the cone boobs.  The funny moment was when the voiceover was of one of the judges saying it looked couture and the camera focused in on the cones.  That's what makes it couture?  😁

I generally like Christian, but I am finding him too intrusive in his critiques.  He goes beyond pointing out his concerns by telling people how he thinks he should fix them.  If it was sewing advice, fine.  But it is often a major design change. 

 

i thiank the guest judge was bending over hoping her boobs would accidently be exposed. that fits with what i have read about her.

agreed on christian's influence.  he needs to just let them go with whatever they dream up without having them change to what he feels.

and who was that other guest judge?