S20.E08: Uncut Hems

[chitowngirl]

It's the halfway point and the designers are hitting the road to a denim explosion; in a throwback challenge, they'll create all denim looks while competing in head-to-head battles where only one designer can be safe from elimination.

[rhofmovalley]

Well, who didn't see that coming.

[T Summer]

Well, a few of you called that... Christian saving Rami!

Prajje should have gone. That was a hot mess, and it's not the first time!

[DEL901]

I can’t believe they liked the nipple dress.   I mean I can believe Julia Fox did, but….

As for Julia, I only knew her as Kanye’s ex who liked to show as much skin as possible, but I thought she was a great guest judge and I liked that she could laugh at herself.  

I had hopes we would finally see Anna go, but I knew it would be Rami.  But thank goodness for the Siriano Save.  

[T Summer]

Did anyone but me not like Launant's? I appreciate that she can really sew but I didn't like the "gown". I could appreciate the sewing that went into  especially the cut out back, but I didn't  like the front... the round breast things AT ALL!

[WaltersHair]

Oh, I was gonna be out, out, out if they actually sent Rami home.

These guest judges should not have this much input. 'Going viral just going to the grocery store' is a qualification? I'll bet I could go viral in that outfit, and not for good reasons.

This season is pissing me off. Why is it such an ill fitting dress on a couture show?

[TexasGal]

Awwww everybody loves Rami, including Christian!  (And especially me, so huzzah!)

But yeah, how was Prajje not the worst?  

[T Summer]

1 minute ago, TexasGal said:

But yeah, how was Prajje not the worst?  

By miles, I thought!

[Jordan Baker]

I felt as though two of the judges were watching a different runway show than the one I watched. Elaine was . . . well, Elaine. And I have no idea who the guest was (I'm old), but I didn't think much of her comments, either. Only Brandon and the guest designer got it right, IMO.

I'd have selected Bishme's outfit for the win, because I though the jacket was fantastic. Plus, as amazing as Laurence is, she's done the cone bra thing twice now.

Anna should have been on the bottom. Didn't Brandon say he could see the crotch on Anna's model? Shouldn't that be disqualifying?

Yes, we all knew, if Rami were ousted, Christian would save him. I, for one, am glad he did.

I think the guests are getting worse each week. One of the Real Housewives next week? Blech.

 

[TakomaSnark]

I thought Anna’s was the clear loser. Embarrassing the way Elaine was praising it.

[roctavia]

I'm glad Christian saved Rami... I loved him on his original season and wasn't ready to see him go yet. I didn't think his out fit was bad, though the high waist weaving was probably the main issue to me, but aside from that I liked it. 

Prajie's look was interesting and I liked the jumpsuit idea... I thought Anna's was terrible and she should have gone home. In white it wouldn't have been any better. 

KaraSaun's was okay- but would have just been safe to me. 

I did really loke Korto's look and what she did with the fabric to make it look different. She should have been the winner.

I would have put Laurance in the bottom... that boobs/ vagina arrow were terrible... If she hadn't pieced it together that way, I would have liked it a lot more. I didn't mind the shoulder spike at all and did like the back of the dress... but that front, oof. 

Bishme's coat was cool and I liked the top of the dress, but the skirt wasn't anything special.

Overall though, it wasn't a bad runway for all denim looks. Some of the styling choices probably also didn't help the bottom looks. 

I forgot about the head to head thing until halfway through judging... but I think that's just me not giving the show my undivided attention.

[Aerobicidal]

When this person says "I would wear all of these outfits" . . .

. . . Project Runway can be canceled because no funnier (intentional or not) shade will ever be expressed by a judge.

(I appreciated her general self-awareness, although I would appreciate it more if she had been blissfully un-self aware ala Hester.)

Speaking of cancelations, Prajjé's look reminded me of when County Seat closed in 1999 after they commissioned an ungodly all-jumpsuit collection in collaboration with Marithé + François Girbaud and Z. Cavaricci.

Speaking of ungodly, after cone boobs already won a challenge, now thirty minute bleached mini-cone boobs win a challenge. It's problematic! Cancel it!

I was glad Rami got the save, even if it contradicts the spirit of my other thoughts on this episode.

[CraftyHazel]

10 minutes ago, WaltersHair said:

Oh, I was gonna be out, out, out if they actually sent Rami home.

These guest judges should not have this much input. 'Going viral just going to the grocery store' is a qualification? I'll bet I could go viral in that outfit, and not for good reasons.

This season is pissing me off. Why is it such an ill fitting dress on a couture show?

You and me both!!  I forgot about the Siriano Save for a minute and almost turned it off in frustration.  I adore Rami, and yes, he IS a class act.  I’m glad Christian saved him, and that moment between Rami and Christian made me tear up.

[SouthernChick]

I really liked Brittany’s look. She should have been the winner.

[TexasGal]

I did like Laurence’s look but floved Bishme’s jacket.  I would have been ok with either of them winning.  Korto’s was a good look too I thought.  
 

Still recovering from seeing Christian and Rami get emotional lol.  <sniff>

And, Kara Saun would have lost against anyone else (except Prajje?) so I guess that winner credit from last week did do her some good after all?

[Fellaway]

The bromance is for real! Not gonna lie, that really got me in the feels. It felt really genuine on both Rami's and Christian's parts. Not gonna discount the possibility that it was always the plan for Christian to use his Save for Rami, but, whatever, I loved it.

As to the actual challenge, I would've cried foul if Laurence hadn't won. Her design this week was on a whole other level than everyone else's, even with the spikes and the weird breast cups, hats... what have yous.

I think the judges got the top and bottom right for each pairing, with the exception of Kara Saun and Anna's matchup. I would've switched them. Anna's wasn't great, but I hated Kara Saun's. Talk about dated and fugly. I would've sent Prajje home. His was a hideous hot mess.

Every week, I dislike Brandon and Elaine more and more as judges. I just don't feel they have the bona fides to be judging these designers.

Oh yeah, and Korto, it's not the best "person" who wins. (You'd have a hard time winning that contest against Rami. Anyone would, he's so lovely and gracious and grounded.) It's not even necessarily the best designer, just the best design this week.

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[Madding crowd]

I thought Anna’s was the worst and she shouldn’t get credit because she made it in five hours, she had the same time as everyone else. I didn’t like the guest judge and Elaine will never appreciate someone like Rami because he is too classic design for her. Glad Rami got the save.

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[Pi237]

Cone boob dress was so ugly! The boobs didn’t fit and the model could barely walk in it. Yet, they made the ‘Cant walk’ critique to Anna?  I’ll never understand this judging.

[roctavia]

1 minute ago, Pi237 said:

  I’ll never understand this judging.

That's because the rules are made up and the points don't matter...

[rhofmovalley]

It bugged me that the judges exclaimed to Anna "you only had five hours!" No, she didn't. She squandered the entire first day because she refused to pay attention when Korto told her she would need to rinse the denim after bleaching it. Then she (disingenuously) claimed she "didn't know" it would have to be rinsed. Maybe she thought Korto was lying to get her kicked off or something. But no, she didn't only have five hours. Lies!

[Stats Queen]

So tired of these bad guest judges and Elaine.

I hated the cone bra on Laurence’s outfit. 

Anna’s outfit was awful and so was Prajie’s. 

Rami’s shouldn’t have been voted out. I think Elaine, so some reason, has it out for Rami. 

Bishme’s jacket was 🔥 

[Real4real]

Did I totally imagine them saying there was NO Siriano Save this season?  I thought that was supposedly some big twist this time—that if they were out, they were actually out.

That was such a sweet moment between Christian and Rami.  I have seen some beautiful things from Rami and think he is so talented, but I feel like this show is not a good fit for him.  He seems very thoughtful in his designs and a one day challenge just doesn’t give you the time to be thoughtful.  I seriously thought if he wasn’t out, he might decide to leave.  He seemed so dejected to be in the bottom again . . .

[Fukui San]

No immunity was the big twist along with more lucrative prizes for winning throughout the season. 

[Misslindsey]

I am glad Rami got the save. I just enjoy him. He is a class act. I liked the moment between Christian and Rami. I do have to admit that I have been rooting more for the older contestants.

I would have liked Laurance's more if the cone boobs were gone. I do like that she made a gown.

Bishme's coat was amazing. On the subject of coats, I am sick of the oversized puffer coats that seem to make a regular appearance on the runway.

I am so tired of Anna. I really was hoping she would leave this week.

I do not know what to make of the judging this season. It has always been a bit all over the place, but this season it feels like it is way more all over the place than before. Is Nina back next week?

 

[Real4real]

11 minutes ago, Fukui San said:

No immunity was the big twist along with more lucrative prizes for winning throughout the season. 

Aha!  Thank you for reminding me!  ‘No immunity’ morphed into ‘no save’ in my tired brain!

[swankie]

 

3 hours ago, T Summer said:

Well, a few of you called that... Christian saving Rami!

Prajje should have gone. That was a hot mess, and it's not the first time!

Hey, can I call it or what?!  Yes, I called Rami being saved.  Out of all of the contestants he is the only one with a history with Christian.  I will say I was thrown for a loop when Prajje wasn't sent home but I feel if he was, Christian definitely would not have saved him. That save had Rami's name on it from the first day.  Let's be real! 

I think Korto should have won that one.  I covet that garment she created.  It was gorgeous!  Laurence's looked plain to me.  And please please please let Anna go home next!  Please!!!

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[pvandal]

Until they showed her in next week’s preview I’d totally forgotten this was the second week without Nina judging. Haven’t missed her at all.

Laurence’s dress was fine except the boob part. They didn’t appear to be cut right to fit the bodice correctly and looked a little puckery. And who wants puckery boobs?

My vote was for Korto. Happy for the Rami save.

[Salacious Kitty]

In what world was Anna's dress better than Rami's? Hers was hot buttered garbage.

So glad Rami was saved. He's a class act, so rare on reality TV. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

The wonky cone boobs took away from Laurence’s dress, but it looked beautiful from the back. I was surprised to have loved Korto’s design, because I haven’t enjoyed many of her looks this season. I thought it looked very chic and I loved the double sleeve. I, too, loved Bishme’s jacket and Brittany’s outfit. Prajje was very lucky this week- his look was too much.

[Leeds]

Oy, I'm all verklempt.

I think I need to come back in the morning once I've gathered my thoughts to comment about the actual clothes.

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[T Summer]

I agree with those who really liked  Korto's look the most!

Brittany and Bishme did well too. Kara Saun's was uninspired. I usually like what Laurent makes but  now I've  taken a second look and I just don't like her denim puff sleeve gown.

It's kind of annoying the save was wasted... of course Rami deserved to be saved, but he never should have been on the hook in the first place! Prajje  absolutely had that coming. Even though the judges thought Anna had the seed of a good idea one certainly could make a case for sending her home,   if not Prajje. At least Rami's  top was attractive. He should've been third from the bottom IMHO.

[String Theory]

6 hours ago, rhofmovalley said:

It bugged me that the judges exclaimed to Anna "you only had five hours!" No, she didn't. She squandered the entire first day because she refused to pay attention when Korto told her she would need to rinse the denim after bleaching it. Then she (disingenuously) claimed she "didn't know" it would have to be rinsed. Maybe she thought Korto was lying to get her kicked off or something. But no, she didn't only have five hours. Lies!

Word.  I'm so over Anna's boo-ho's and "poor me" in every episode. It's always something or someone else who's responsible for her shortcomings.   There's always an excuse!

I'm sorry, the necessity to rinse fabric after bleaching seems obvious.  I have no sewing experience (outside of 9th grade Home Ec class decades ago) but know bleach is a chemical that needs respecting. SMH, this is just common sense.  I'm really getting tired of the judges (looking at you Elaine) who buy into her B.S.

Julia Fox is a fashion 'influencer'.....sad, just sad.  I'm getting old.

I'm happy the Siriano save was used for Rami, the only thing right Project Runway got right this week.

P.S:  @Stats Queen ITA, loved Bishme's jacket; IMO it was the most unique & fresh looking item.  Wasn't particularly blown away by the dress, but that jacket......🤩

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That jacket..I want it!

[BAForever]

Agree with all comments- what a shitshow judging was. Prajje should have been gone. I'm all for model inclusion, but to keep a level field how about a challenge where all models are "curvy"? This one would have been really interesting with that caveat.

[zamp33]

I do not like the head to head challenges because I would rather have each outfit judged on its own and have a true top and bottom. 

I am so over Anna! I would love to see what would Michael Kors have to say about that dress.  And Brandon was totally right when he said she cut the tops off of a few pairs of jeans and sewed them together. The way Elaine and the guest judge were fawning all over it was ridiculous. And they dinged Prajje for not looking finished in the back yet you could see lots of Anna's model's body parts. The inconsistent judging makes the show hard to watch. I wonder if Nina would have sent Anna home if she were there?

I also hated the cone boobs on Laurence's dress.  The dress I thought was a good idea but the cone boobs again - no. And Bishme should have won -that jacket was everything!! And  he did it in one day - I hated they complained that his the dress was just basic so that took him out of winning.  I loved Korto's jacket and use of color- but her skirt was pretty basic - it did not looked finished on the bottom, but for a one day challenge the top was the star and with Bishme I felt like he had a complete outfit and the jacket was everything.

Poor Rami! He seems beaten down this season. I think he is a classic and not a trendy designer and some of he judges fall all over trendy - again Elaine's gushing over Anna's dress - (can you tell that makes me angry?) I hope Christian's save and faith in Rami's talents lift him up - but Like a poster said I do feel like Elaine does not like him. Brandon straight up said he disagreed with who they chose to send home. 

 

 

[rlc]

Anna has more lives than this guy.

 

 

[BAForever]

4 minutes ago, zamp33 said:

 And Brandon was totally right when he said she cut the tops off of a few pairs of jeans and sewed them together. The way Elaine and the guest judge were fawning all over it was ridiculous. And they dinged Prajje for not looking finished in the back yet you could see lots of Anna's model's body parts. 

If Anna had Kara Saun's or Rami's model, she would have been out. I'm getting whiffs of Gretchen this go-round- I stopped watching about S6 when the judging got so terrible.

[SuburbanHangSuite]

 Clearly the producers are effing with us because they know Anna should've been gone.  Giving Kara the "advantage" to choose her matchup was shady.  Kara's too sweet to tell Anna outright, "I chose you because I can beat you."  LOL. Laurence would though.  And speaking of Laurence, 

I join those who weren't crazy about her design.  She was so confident that she was going to beat Brittany but I don't know about that.  That match up was a draw to me.  

Bishme's was my favorite along with Korto's.  I didn't hate Prajje's like some of y'all.  It was so layered and intricate.  It may have looked better on a different model. 

Not mad at the Siriano save.  That was a sweet moment between Christian and Rami. 

 

[Lamb18]

9 hours ago, T Summer said:

Did anyone but me not like Launant's? I appreciate that she can really sew but I didn't like the "gown". I could appreciate the sewing that went into  especially the cut out back, but I didn't  like the front... the round breast things AT ALL!

I didn't like it. I thought she would be im the bottom. She stole Anna's idea of the bleeding nipple dress.

[EtheltoTillie]

When I saw the cone boob dress come down the runway I thought the judges were going to make fun of it, as it looked like a mistake, you know like the ones where people inadvertently place prints in the wrong places and end up emphasizing a body part in a comical way. 

[TakomaSnark]

6 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

In what world was Anna's dress better than Rami's? Hers was hot buttered garbage.

So glad Rami was saved. He's a class act, so rare on reality TV. 

Right? I was convinced three of the four in the bottom were only there because they needed bottoms. Brittany's was very good, Rami's was fine, Prajje's was disappointing but nothing, NOTHING was the 'hot buttered garbage' (🤗🤗🤗) that Anna sent down there. I can't even believe this was a debate.

[Lamb18]

I'm so happy Christian saved Rami. Those moments at the end between them were so touching. I'll have to rewatch.

[seacliffsal]

You all have already identified my thoughts regarding the designs and outcomes.  However, I will add that every time they do a flashback to Christian and Rami's season, I just love looking at Christian's hair styles from the season.  I may giggle a bit when I see them.  That was a great season (RIP Chris March).

I think the designers should all have the same type of body type on their models for each competition.  All curvy, all thin, all young, all older, etc.  I heard Rami say to his model that she was bigger than her given measurements, so I think he had to redo some of his work.  I understand that a model's measurements may change as the season goes on, but when a new challenge begins all of the designers should have updated measurements as they often have most of a garment done by the time they see their models.  

Oh, and I wanted to add that it really disappointed me when Korto said that she told someone she was ready to go all 'Rosa Parks' this week if she was in the bottom as she was all 'Martin Luther King (Jr.)' last week.  Although she was probably kidding, it does show that they know their back stories may make a difference.

[Leeds]

1 hour ago, zamp33 said:

I do not like the head to head challenges because I would rather have each outfit judged on its own and have a true top and bottom. 

 

But in the long run it makes no difference.  Whether you agree with them or not, these particular judges would have given Laurence the win and sent Rami home, and Brittany and Bishme and Anna and would have been safe no matter how the competition was set up. 

[TakomaSnark]

9 minutes ago, Leeds said:

But in the long run it makes no difference.  Whether you agree with them or not, these particular judges would have given Laurence the win and sent Rami home, and Brittany and Bishme and Anna and would have been safe no matter how the competition was set up. 

I don't necessarily agree. If Brittany was being judged against everyone, vs. just needing a winner/loser in the matchup, I think she could have been in the top. The goalposts move when they're evaluating everyone individually, as compared with a competition that specifically says, we must have one winner and one loser from each pair.

[Leeds]

Of course Bishme's dress was simple, he spent all his time on the amazing jacket.  And if he'd made a more complex dress, he'd have been dinged for having "too much going on", "detracting from the main event", and, had Nina been there, she would have told him to "edit himself."

[MsMalin]

Very touching! I saw Christian on WWHL and he said he cried for the first time ever on PR and it had to do with Rami.

The nipple dress was just in bad taste. Shocked that it won.

[Leeds]

Is there any place to actually see the designs these days?  (I miss Tom and Lorenzo 😪.)

[meep.meep]

So why didn't Anna just rinse her fabric like everyone else?  It was already white.

I think Rami's model being heavier was one reason why he ended up in the bottom.  The judges seem to have unrecognized bias against the larger models.

I keep thinking back to the fabulous denim gown that Emilio Sosa made back in his season.  You couldn't tell it was denim.  Of course, he probably had more than a day to do it.

The denim challenge during Rami and Christian's season was the infamous one that Ricky (of the trucker hats) won, right?

[TakomaSnark]

17 minutes ago, meep.meep said:

The denim challenge during Rami and Christian's season was the infamous one that Ricky (of the trucker hats) won, right?

Yup!

 

 

[sempervivum]

I didn't understand why Anna didn't just wash her bleached dress pieces and continue sewing. I suppose they might have shrunk, but there was no real reason she had to start over, was there?

Julia Fox generally shows up on gossip/trash sites looking like she just crawled naked through a pile of laundry, so I was surprised by her lack of enthusiasm for Anna's look. 

Interesting comment from Korto re. her MLK 'moment' last week, which I actually don't even remember. I was sort of expecting Kara to somehow link her nondescript creation to, oh, the Dred Scott decision or something.