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Despite the awkward date: still loving Sutton.  At least she isn’t pimping herself out like a hooker in a casino talking crude like some people. 
 

I’m happy Erika is being satisfied by a senior citizen there is way too much ageism on the show.  Go Erika!  Keep on keeping on!  I’m sure this will help your thriving career as a “singer”.

And Rinna: birds of a feather flock together.  You and Erika deserve each other.

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I kind of get why Rinna gravitated toward Erika. Even though I don't like Diana, I'm somewhat surprised (really) that she would bother with someone like Erika. She clearly has more celebrity connections than Erika ever did. I'm a little confused. If I had Diana's money and rep, I'd steer clear of Erika, based off principle alone.

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Damnnnnn Dorit was giving PK a ration of shit about his DUI. On camera, not telling her about it and lying in general, not caring who sees it. I liked that Dorito. I bet that's not the only thing PeeKaaay lies about. 

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5 hours ago, amarante said:

I can't imagine anyone who was *serious* about finding a "partner" would agree to be filmed on a second date.

Not only that but Sutton said their first date was a month prior!  I admit it's been a very long time since I've had a first date (thankfully, lol) but I would think a month between first and second dates was weird.  I mean, if you really want to see someone again why wait a month? 

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Rofl wait doesn’t Marisol on RHOM have this same cup in her talking heads last season? 

Yes - and I think she also brought it with her to the Miami reunion taping!  

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3 hours ago, Surrealist said:

kind of get why Rinna gravitated toward Erika. Even though I don't like Diana, I'm somewhat surprised (really) that she would bother with someone like Erika. She clearly has more celebrity connections than Erika ever did. I'm a little confused. If I had Diana's money and rep, I'd steer clear of Erika, based off principle alone.

This threesome just returned from a luxury vacation in Hawaii. I am assuming that Diana treated. As Erica arrived back here in the airport, there is video of her being served with a $50 million lawsuit, her latest. 

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1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

I kind of get why Rinna gravitated toward Erika. Even though I don't like Diana, I'm somewhat surprised (really) that she would bother with someone like Erika. She clearly has more celebrity connections than Erika ever did. I'm a little confused. If I had Diana's money and rep, I'd steer clear of Erika, based off principle alone.

She wants Erika's Cartier panther ring for her collection?

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8 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Yanno….I’m starting to wonder that myself, the more I think back on this episode. The matter-of-fact way she talked about her blackout — which for a lot of people is a huge, frightening wake-up call; the way she sat and pretty much agreed with Rinna during the “intervention;” her show of reform at the dinner with Garcelle — her whole attitude is beginning to not sit right with me. What a more perfect way to get away from the whole heartless, thieving bitch image than to remake herself as a lost, tragic figure slowly giving in to drink. Poor Erika. 

Her actions do look staged to me now — like she’s playing (badly) the role of a lush. Shame on me, I guess, for ever thinking otherwise. You’d think I’d know better by now.

  I dove back in and watched the fauxtervention. That was a waste of airtime. I wonder if the scene with Garcelle and the cognac was chronologically before or after, because if it was after, then what was the point of the intervention? (Except to show that Rinna was wearing the same top she wore to Sutton's muddy yard party!)

  If you look at Dorinda from RHONY, when she's as schwasted as Erika's claiming to be, her makeup gets smeared, her hair ends up wild, her eyes are glassy and unfocused, and Bravo even writes [unintelligible] because she's slurring so heavily. I don't see *any* of that with Erika. Maybe some slight cotton mouth sounding speech, which had me wondering if she's partaking a bit of another substance on top of everything else, but that's it.

 No shame on you at all, it's all her. She's throwing out everything she can to distract, deflect, and garner pity to change public opinion -and possibly keep her job since she's not at all forthcoming about her legal mountain like we were promised before the season started. None of her legal mess has really been brought up this season, except in the "Aw, the poor thing is going through a lot" way. Wish we knew what her lawyers and Tom really say to her.

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2 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Not only that but Sutton said their first date was a month prior!  I admit it's been a very long time since I've had a first date (thankfully, lol) but I would think a month between first and second dates was weird.  I mean, if you really want to see someone again why wait a month? 

Sutton had Covid in that timeframe, so that put her out of commission for a while.

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1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Sutton had Covid in that timeframe, so that put her out of commission for a while.

And, it was the Holidays? I mean, I question anyone (who isn’t contracted by the show) agreeing to having their second date filmed, but I don’t question the timeframe.

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42 minutes ago, CSunshine76 said:

And, it was the Holidays? I mean, I question anyone (who isn’t contracted by the show) agreeing to having their second date filmed, but I don’t question the timeframe.

Sutton said she gave herself covid for Christmas. It wasn't made clear how much time they took off filming over the actual holidays. 

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12 hours ago, MaggieG said:

I'm hoping the date was only awkward because they were being filmed. Didn't Sutton say they had a few dates before?

Since I have never had a desire to be on tv, I can never stop thinking that they are, so I was wondering how that goes - "Hey, would you like to be on tv?  I'm on a show - would you like to have a date and film it?"

12 hours ago, Dixie Sugarbaker said:

Does Bravo pay Mikey when he is shown on air? It makes no sense that he is there all the time and Erika being “I am so broke” otherwise. I could just see Erika saying “ I can’t pay you, but we can get you a contract with Bravo and have you appear every episode and get paid!” Her makeup sucks, her hair is atrocious, and her looks are horrid therefore he is obviously not actually working, so the only logical reason he is around is to pick up a Bravo paycheck.

Yeah - I was wondering how he went from choreographer to Hair Extension Consultant; then when Rinna arrived and Erika told him to stay and the other dude to take off - he was there for the Bravo Intervention.

10 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Because of my older cousins, I got into all the punk bands (still like the music), and I never looked or dressed punk. Some people have eclectic music taste. We've seen photos of Sutton when she was younger, and she dressed preppy, but her music taste probably ran the gamut.

What amused me was her comment that last date they talked about books and movies, so now it was time to Dive Deep.  "So, what kind of music do you like?" 😄. That's deep.

9 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Kathy is really out there isn't she.

Oh she's a card.  Hiding someone's purse - what a clever prankster.  She apparently likes Erika enough to invite her to her daughter's wedding.

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12 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

My very young zaftig coworker has begun wearing these to work.  Super tight, super short. For her type of work and client, it is way inappropriate.  Poor thing must not have any female friends.  

Sure but Sutton actually PAYS a stylist to choose these outfits.  As does Diana.  What a waste of money. 

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What a boring episode. Way too much of Diana's party. Her home is so cold and soulless, kind of like its owner I guess. Asher in his red suit looked and sounded like a lounge singer on a discount cruise ship. All that was missing was the drunken heckler. Oh wait, she was there. 

At this point the only howife I really enjoy is Sutton. Though she can be awkward, I find her funny and endearing. I'd hang out with her anytime. 

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On 7/27/2022 at 6:17 PM, bencr said:

Did I hear that right? Erika's quest is to regain everything she's lost from her prior life which was funded on the backs of orphans and burn victims? How about making it your quest to pay back the people who were defrauded to support your "career"?

Yep.  Kind of amazing isn't it.  She found out that her "fabulous lifestyle" was funded with money stolen from Tom's clients and she vows to get it all back.   Nothing to learn here folks. 

And seriously, only by RH standards does a half a million dollar salary, an address in Beverly Hills, a personal assistant and whatever she pays Mikey for qualify as "broke.

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That party felt like it lasted three days…

Anyhoo. Gotta love Kyle and her rationalizations. Garcelle talking about the nastiness she’s experienced from Erika, and Kyle being all “Well that wasn’t DRUNK behavior” in a way that sounded like she was saying “I mean, it’s not as though she was HAMMERED and out of her gourd when she said it… she was COMPLETELY SOBER so, like, lay off the truth-telling, lady.”

She reminds me of an old friend who would always justify and defend the nastiness with which some of her other friends treated me when we were teenagers. Taking their side years later—when she wasn’t even in contact with any of them—and saying stuff like “oh, that was a long time ago. I’m sure they didn’t mean anything. I never had a problem with them.” Like, how about you, at minimum, acknowledge that bullying (pushing, shoving, insults, ostracizing someone) is WRONG? And that’s where I feel Kyle is at. Never able to see outside her own experiences to acknowledge that maybe—just maybe—these people she’s put on a pedestal are WRONG and HURTFUL on occasion? Garcelle’s reaction was very relatable.

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14 hours ago, Dixie Sugarbaker said:

I could just see Erika saying “ I can’t pay you, but we can get you a contract with Bravo and have you appear every episode and get paid!” Her makeup sucks, her hair is atrocious, and her looks are horrid therefore he is obviously not actually working, so the only logical reason he is around is to pick up a Bravo paycheck.

@Dixie Sugarbaker 

Really?!?

It’s called “friendship”!!!!

Snerk.

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On 7/28/2022 at 2:12 AM, Lady of nod said:

Just wondering what’s up with Erika’s son that she had to spend the holidays all alone. Did he jump the sinking Ghiradi ship of thieves?  Could she not afford a plane ticket to see Mom or has mom disowned her? And none of her good (fake tv) friends reached out to her. How bout Mikey? Poor Erika. 

Saw at least two posts with this. And yet another drinking game is born.

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2 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Asher in his red suit looked and sounded like a lounge singer on a discount cruise ship. All that was missing was the drunken heckler. Oh wait, she was there. 

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I loved Kathy’s expression when Erika apologized for not attending. Priceless.  Even funnier that Erika thought it mattered. 

Yeah, Kathy was pretty much "We didn't even notice you weren't there".

But from Ericka's POV, it seemed more about her again trying to garner sympathy from the audience and playing it up to the camera.

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If someone spoke to Portia like that, Kyle would probably try to get them fired. 

At the very least, there would a A LOT of finger pointing in someone's face.

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So the very wealthy Diana has a fancy Christmas party and serves chicken fingers with ranch sauce? I wonder if there was more food like a buffet and the women didn't want to be filmed eating. The one good thing that I can say about Kyle is that when she has a party she feeds people. 

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On 7/28/2022 at 12:28 AM, dmeets said:

That preview! Oooh Lisa, you’re so angry.

Speaking of Lisa, I thought these episodes were filmed during the holidays. So what’s with the Halloween mask during one of her confessionals?

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This picture is truely horrifying. Her lipsseem to go up and down. Is this permanent or does she have to get injections  to keep them puffed up? I envision a time when they  over fill them and her lips burst like an over-inflated bicycle tire. 

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6 hours ago, ivygirl said:

That party felt like it lasted three days…

Anyhoo. Gotta love Kyle and her rationalizations. Garcelle talking about the nastiness she’s experienced from Erika, and Kyle being all “Well that wasn’t DRUNK behavior” in a way that sounded like she was saying “I mean, it’s not as though she was HAMMERED and out of her gourd when she said it… she was COMPLETELY SOBER so, like, lay off the truth-telling, lady.”

She reminds me of an old friend who would always justify and defend the nastiness with which some of her other friends treated me when we were teenagers. Taking their side years later—when she wasn’t even in contact with any of them—and saying stuff like “oh, that was a long time ago. I’m sure they didn’t mean anything. I never had a problem with them.” Like, how about you, at minimum, acknowledge that bullying (pushing, shoving, insults, ostracizing someone) is WRONG? And that’s where I feel Kyle is at. Never able to see outside her own experiences to acknowledge that maybe—just maybe—these people she’s put on a pedestal are WRONG and HURTFUL on occasion? Garcelle’s reaction was very relatable.

That’s because if it isn’t happening to Kyle, like your old  friend, then it isn’t happening at all.  These people are egocentric and really believe that truth is subjective and relative.  Personally, I’d drop that friend you referenced.  Who needs a person like that? You deserve better.

I bet Kyle would whistle a different tune if Erika cursed out her daughters or husband.   However,  this wouldn’t apply  to Kathy or Kim because Kyle enjoys watching them get roasted. She is also a jealous and competitive person in a neurotic sense when it comes to them—probably rooted in the nasty upbringing she had.

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15 hours ago, Mar said:

Freudian slip? That was her fiance.I also felt bad for him.

I know now but in an earlier episode when her son and fiancé were hanging out I wasn’t sure who was who.  I actually thought he sounded pretty good  but everyone is scared shitless of Erika and would never tell her to shut up and let the guy sing.

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Why is everyone so afraid of Erika? What power does she hold over them? Other than yellling or cursing at them she is powerless. Diana could have said to her please Erika this is a solo. Let Asher have his moment. 

Kyle, Rinna and Diana can say mean things to Sutton who has done nothing to them and is not holding on to ill-gotten goods.  But with Erika they tiptoe around her and fawn over her like she is some kind of goddess.  

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Bravo brought back disgraced Erika as a ratings draw.  Humans love to hate and pick sides.  Unfortunately without the showy obscene wealth she’s boring. She’s cheap slutty instead of expensive slutty. We don’t watch for that.  So her storyline has switched from cold hearted bitch to sad drunk on meds….. poor thing. 😢

It’s an act. Erika is totally self absorbed.  Bravo is encouraging this behaviour for sympathy and ratings and the other cast members are going along with it. 

I mean, no way would Diana grin indulgently as Erika ruined her fiancé’s Christmas song unless it was in the script.

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I think Erika is mixing something else with her meds.  I've been on Lexapro with the Wellbutrin for about 4-5 years, (20 mg Lexapro, 300 WB) and don't get shitfaced with 2 drinks.  4 or 5 drinks, sure.  But 2?  Come on now.  She's adding something else in there.  I regularly have a glass of wine or two and it's no big deal.  or champagne. 

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2 hours ago, tranquilidade said:

That’s because if it isn’t happening to Kyle, like your old  friend, then it isn’t happening at all.  These people are egocentric and really believe that truth is subjective and relative.  Personally, I’d drop that friend you referenced.  Who needs a person like that? You deserve better.

Thank you. I pretty much have, for the reasons you describe. It was tough because we’ve known each other forever, but it’s much better for my sanity. 

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3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

This picture is truly horrifying. Her lips seem to go up and down. Is this permanent or does she have to get injections  to keep them puffed up? I envision a time when they  over fill them and her lips burst like an over-inflated bicycle tire. 

I'm kind of horrified that I know this but Lisa's lips have some sort of permanent implant in them.  Very early on Andy asked her about it and she said it's permanent.  But that was about 10 years ago and they do seem to be even bigger sometimes so I don't know what she's doing now. 

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17 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

We would NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT if anyone even just said "get out of here" without the expletive to her precious Portia.  It would get brought up in every talking head, there'd be an entire segment at the reunion where Kyle ~confronted the HW who said it, multiple scenes with her discussing it with Mauricio while dabbing at the corner of her eyes with a tissues.  I mean...hypocrisy, thy name is Kyle.

Sutton is so awkward, but I think that's why I like her.  Also, lol at her no's for a date: no ponytails and no white vans.  I mean, she's not wrong!

Exactly! My favorite thing about Kyle is how much she loves her daughters, as well as her sisters' kids. She comes across very maternal. I always thought if I were to pick a mom (or aunt) out of someone from BH, it would be Kyle. I know some people might judge it, but I think it's great Kyle is happy to have her adult kids at home with her too. She seems like someone who really wants all her kids to be safe, healthy, and happy.  

I just wish she saw other people's children as just as precious. 

I think with Sutton, what you see is what you get in all regards. Her opinions are hers. Her money is hers. Her accent is hers. Not against plastic surgery, but her face and body are hers too. So many of the others come across phony in many regards. 

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OMG, Asher can't sing.  Were they all drunk to the point they were in tears?  He's lucky Erika was being an asshole b/c otherwise, all of those high notes he couldn't hit would've been even more noticeable.

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16 hours ago, WhatAmIWatching said:

  I dove back in and watched the fauxtervention. That was a waste of airtime. I wonder if the scene with Garcelle and the cognac was chronologically before or after, because if it was after, then what was the point of the intervention? (Except to show that Rinna was wearing the same top she wore to Sutton's muddy yard party!)

  If you look at Dorinda from RHONY, when she's as schwasted as Erika's claiming to be, her makeup gets smeared, her hair ends up wild, her eyes are glassy and unfocused, and Bravo even writes [unintelligible] because she's slurring so heavily. I don't see *any* of that with Erika. Maybe some slight cotton mouth sounding speech, which had me wondering if she's partaking a bit of another substance on top of everything else, but that's it.

 No shame on you at all, it's all her. She's throwing out everything she can to distract, deflect, and garner pity to change public opinion -and possibly keep her job since she's not at all forthcoming about her legal mountain like we were promised before the season started. None of her legal mess has really been brought up this season, except in the "Aw, the poor thing is going through a lot" way. Wish we knew what her lawyers and Tom really say to her.

I must have been busy typing and missed the cognac order. What got me to thinking about this was the way she talked about her blackouts, as well as saying how she’s on a cocktail (pun definitely intended) of meds, and drinking. Also, I found the duet with Diana’s boy toy/beard/whatever too reminiscent of Below Deck’s Rachel hopping up on stage and making an ass of herself at that resort bar — like Erika saw how to act like a sloppy drunk person and tried to imitate. But that is also stereotypical drunken behavior, so…

Dorinda is a drunk. As usual, Erika is a poseur, and a poor one at that. 

Of course, this is all to take the heat off of her and her problems. But news flash. Erika, they ain’t going away, as that process server showed you at the airport.

2 hours ago, RecoveringLawyer said:

I think Erika is mixing something else with her meds.  I've been on Lexapro with the Wellbutrin for about 4-5 years, (20 mg Lexapro, 300 WB) and don't get shitfaced with 2 drinks.  4 or 5 drinks, sure.  But 2?  Come on now.  She's adding something else in there.  I regularly have a glass of wine or two and it's no big deal.  or champagne. 

Same here. I’ve been on Lexapro too, and could drink wine with no problem. 

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1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

Exactly! My favorite thing about Kyle is how much she loves her daughters, as well as her sisters' kids. She comes across very maternal.

I agree. Maurizio also loves those girls. However, his recent Instagram post with Portia has caused some stir on social media.😬😵😳 after the controversy, he removed it. Very creepy in my opinion.

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5 minutes ago, Mar said:

I agree. Maurizio also loves those girls. However, his recent Instagram post with Portia has caused some stir on social media.😬😵😳 after the controversy, he removed it. Very creepy in my opinion.

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OMG. Just….no. The look on his face, the placement of his hand, and the way Portia is holding his face and kissing his forehead — like a lover. 

How/when/why did Mauricio think this was a good idea? And where the hell was Kyle? Only interested in the ‘Gram? Good thing this is gone. WAY too close to soft porn, if you ask me, and WAY beyond any “father-daughter loving relationship” pic. 

What was the caption with this, I wonder…anyway, pass the eye bleach. Puleeze.

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Erika's trying for misdirection. Talking endlessly about mixing antidepressants and booze and getting "lit" is meant to distract from the gossip that she's drinking like a fish every night. The antidepressant  claim is a red herring. She's drinking too much booze in private.

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2 hours ago, Boo Boo said:

OMG, Asher can't sing.  Were they all drunk to the point they were in tears?  He's lucky Erika was being an asshole b/c otherwise, all of those high notes he couldn't hit would've been even more noticeable.

It. Was. Just. So. Bad. 😖

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I agree. Maurizio also loves those girls. However, his recent Instagram post with Portia has caused some stir on social media.😬😵😳 after the controversy, he removed it. Very creepy in my opinion.

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What the f---!!!!

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1 hour ago, Mar said:

I agree. Maurizio also loves those girls. However, his recent Instagram post with Portia has caused some stir on social media.😬😵😳 after the controversy, he removed it. Very creepy in my opinion.

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Yikes! That is something that is never going to go away and will haunt them for years. What the hell was he thinking to post this AND who took the photo?

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2 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Also, I found the duet with Diana’s boy toy/beard/whatever too reminiscent of Below Deck’s Rachel hopping up on stage and making an ass of herself at that resort bar — like Erika saw how to act like a sloppy drunk person and tried to imitate.

Wouldn't it have been glorious if they had all been really drunk - while Erika sang along, Kyle could have done splits and twirled her ponytail, while Rinna lay on her back doing her upside-down splits and Dorit giggled on the sidelines? 😂

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5 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

Bravo brought back disgraced Erika as a ratings draw.  Humans love to hate and pick sides.  Unfortunately without the showy obscene wealth she’s boring. She’s cheap slutty instead of expensive slutty. We don’t watch for that.  So her storyline has switched from cold hearted bitch to sad drunk on meds….. poor thing. 😢

It’s an act. Erika is totally self absorbed.  Bravo is encouraging this behaviour for sympathy and ratings and the other cast members are going along with it. 

I mean, no way would Diana grin indulgently as Erika ruined her fiancé’s Christmas song unless it was in the script.

I even wonder if production picked out those shorts for Sutton.

I have to agree that Erika's playing up this part for the cameras.  She wants a redemption season because her "victim" season last year fell flat.  She has conveniently dropped all the lies she told about not speaking to Tom (yet, didn't apologize to Garcelle for coming unglued at her last season for mentioning the conversation where she admits to talking to him).  I don't believe for a second that she bumped her head after the party.  She is so adept at lying, she is giving me "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" vibes.

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2 hours ago, Juneau Gal said:

Yikes! That is something that is never going to go away and will haunt them for years. What the hell was he thinking to post this AND who took the photo?

That's one of the most CRINGE things I've ever seen.

Why Portia and Mo?!?!

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On 7/27/2022 at 5:22 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

He just didn’t tell you.. lol like Eh… I smell bullshit 

Yup i think this was just snuck in there ie PK’s redemption moment 🙄

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