S26.E10: Week 9

[TiredMe]

Welp completely understand why he said he was going off social media. 

[Ladybugnine]

This a clear example of gaslighting right here.

[ranchgirl]

Well, so much for working through it.  

She just dodged a HUGE bullet.  

[meatball77]

Wow, his behavior is showing that she made the right decision.  His gaslighting and blaming it on her?

I don't think it's even about the sex for her, it's about him telling everyone he loves them.

[dizzyd]

Wow, how dare she deprive him of fantasy suite night. 😏

[Kiss my mutt]

Why is she apologizing? He is a class A dick. She dodged a bullet. I hope he gets dragged big time tonight. 

[MadeleineElster]

38 minutes ago, EllenB said:

And as someone whose best romantic moments have been reminiscent of Bugs Bunny cartoons, I also like her emphasis on humor and relaxed goofiness.

And to quote Bugs, "What a maroon!"  If I hear one more time how he needs to "go deep" into a relationship I will choke. His depth is definitely the kiddie pool. 

[SoMuchTV]

So, it’s all your fault for not telling me in advance that it would be a deal breaker if I had sex with other women after we fell in love with each other? Did I miss something?

[DEL901]

It certainly explains why he’d dump his responsibilities to make out with Cassidy and Shanae.  Dude is crazy entitled.  You are just one in a long line of bachelors.  And if he thinks the press and Bachelor Nation was hard on him before, he is going to be hammered now. 

[lgprimes]

Wowwwwwww.

so SHE’S the bad guy?? 
what a f*$&er this guy is.

 She needs to rewind what he just said and go drink in celebration that she doesn’t have to spend another minute with him.

[meatball77]

1 minute ago, Ladybugnine said:

This a clear example of gaslighting right here.

Yup, this my friends is behavior that you don't put up with from a partner.  It's abusive.

He is saying that she's his person but he told the other girls that he loved them and had sex with them.

He's the type of guy who blames the girl for making him cheat.

[Lamb18]

He talks about his faith yet feels he's entitled to her but doesn't need to be faithful to her?

[JenE4]

What the fuck?!? She seemed like maybe she was trying to come to an understanding to move forward and instead he just threw it in her face and saying she invalidated everything?!? Run, Susie, run! I don’t even know who I’m looking at anymore and HE’S done?! Fuuuuuck! Grab Rachel and Gabby on the way out and throw Shanae at him to save yourselves!!! Now she’s apologizing and groveling to him?! The “faith” thing and I’ll find someone who would fight for me?!?! I called that it would be like Hannah and Luke, but even I didn’t think it would be exactly like Hannah and Luke! Fuck you, Clayton! This did get so much worse than the previews! 

[KenyaJ]

I've never seen anyone be this much of an ass on this show. Not even Pablo. It made me sick to my stomach that Susie was apologizing to him and feeling like she did something wrong. What a manipulative, gaslighting asshole.

[Amy Beth]

Was he yelling at Jesse too in the promo?

[DEL901]

So, it seems Abby isn’t thrilled he slept with someone else either.  Who knew.   Wonder if Rachel is unhappy as well?  Pretty much guaranteed. 

[Lamb18]

2 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

I've never seen anyone be this much of an ass on this show. Not even Pablo. It made me sick to my stomach that Susie was apologizing to him and feeling like she did something wrong. What a manipulative, gaslighting asshole.

I was thinking he's much worse than Juan Pablo, too.

[EllenB]

Susie, Gabby, and Rachel should all tell him to fuck off, and then go on an awesome chick vacation together. It looks like they all get along really well.

[kazza]

What. the. heck. Haven't watched a season since Peter Pilot and tuned into just the last 20 minutes. 

Did this guy really try to blame Susie (?) for not explicitly calling out that sleeping with other women is a deal breaker?

Who is this Bachelor? Can someone provide a 30 second overview of how we got here???

(small voice) Kind of like Jesse Palmer as host/wingman in the little bit I saw. 

[Jax7917]

Susie , just say that you want to be the bachelorette . It’s so obvious to me that she had this exact moment planned if she got far enough . She doesn’t want him . She wants to be the bachelorette . 

[lgprimes]

I’m hoping in the previews his dad is telling him it’s nobody’s fault but his own for being such a male ho and making promises he couldn’t keep to every girl he goes on a date with.

 You wanna score with everybody then be up front about it and accept the consequences. Stop being angry that the women are upset about it. That’s their right.

[meatball77]

I can't wait for the rose ceremony from hell.  His parents telling him that he's trash looks funny also.

It's pretty amazing that someone is going to be more hated than Juan Pablo

It seems like he just decided that this was the sex date and was pissed off that she wasn't giving him his third blow job of the weekend.

I also think it was more about him loving all of them (and with the other two girls also) than the sex.

[jackjill89]

What a fucking asshole. He flipped on her so fast. That is exactly what marriage like him would be like. Susie dodged a huge bullet.

Hoping both Gabby and Rachel leave him as well. Jerk.

[dizzyd]

Shanae can take a backseat to his assholery, she’s no longer the lead villain of the season. Well so much for a season where Clayton was so insubstantial, he should have continued to be boring because he clearly screwed up being dramatic, didn’t do him any favors. 🖕🖕

Edited March 9, 2022 by dizzyd

[lgprimes]

Ok I’m starting to calm down..

I suppose this ending is perfect for a guy who has no desire to get engaged…

for a very long time.

[Recyclorette]

2 minutes ago, Jax7917 said:

Susie , just say that you want to be the bachelorette . It’s so obvious to me that she had this exact moment planned if she got far enough . She doesn’t want him . She wants to be the bachelorette . 

Wow, this is cold.  I feel like I just watched a truly abusive event.  My stomach hurts.  Sorry, I find your comment really inappropriate.

[GracieK]

Wait a minute - I was promised a test drive with all three!! 

[DEL901]

I agree with everyone who says he is worse than Juan Pablo. JP owned his douchiness.   Clayton was pretending to be a nice guy until he didn’t get what he wanted.  It is like when he got rid of Sarah when he found out she said he cried.  That made him look bad.  She has got to go.  Shanae trashed the trophy HE awarded…she’s got to go. 

And I don’t think it is exactly a Luke P situation.  He demanded.  She assumed if she was truly number one, he wouldn’t declare love for others or have s3x with them.  

[FlyingEgret]

I have a feeling Rachel and Gabby may be more upset that he told the others that he is/was in love with them - just wait until they find out he used the same words too.

Actually - maybe he didnt say Gabby's name when he declared his I love you's because he was afraid he would yell out Rachel's or Susie's name...

[adhoc]

First episode I've watched this season. Lordy lord, so many "likes" I wanted to gouge my eyes out. I might try to watch next week, but I don't know if I can sit through more of this:

C: "Like, I thought you would, like, understand but now I find out that, like, you're, like, not my person and I'm, like, I'm just done...."

S: "Well, I'm sorry, but like, I just thought you know, like, if you were, like, serious you would have, like, told me and, like I believe everything you are saying but, like I don't know, like, how could you, like, do that...."

*********

"Well, I am in love with the other women, Susie. But I love you the most!"  Just what every woman wants to hear.

[dizzyd]

I blame this all on Michelle’s school kids. What were y’all thinking kiddos. Just kidding, they were forced into the fort building and letter writing.

[Lamb18]

He's the type of guy who'll say Susie is a frigid bitch, or will say she was just begging for it but he wouldn't touch a slag like her.

Edited March 9, 2022 by Lamb18

[phlebas]

WELL THAT WAS UGLY

Someone remind me why we watch this awful show

[Jax7917]

8 minutes ago, Recyclorette said:

Wow, this is cold.  I feel like I just watched a truly abusive event.  My stomach hurts.  Sorry, I find your comment really inappropriate.

I’m not saying he’s not an asshole . She’s right in everything she’s saying . But to me it came off very planned and like she was looking for an out . I’m not agreeing with how he reacted to her ( which was terrible ), but I’m just stating my observation . 

[Kiss my mutt]

I’m living for the moment Clayton’s dad tells him he “screwed the pooch”. 

[FlyingEgret]

3 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I’m living for the moment Clayton’s dad tells him he “screwed the pooch”. 

That would be TWO pooches...

[Diana Berry]

Wow he’s the jerkiest jerk .  Hmm Jesse was right this was the most dramatic ever.

Please Susie do not take this guy back.   I’m fine with her wanting to be bachelorette.  Gabby and Rachel Run Run far away from this dude.

Serene ,Teddie, Michelle,  the rest consider yourself lucky,

Side note- Clayuhn’s hair on the women tell all looked like Lucille Ball during her I Love Lucy phase. 

[adhoc]

Quote

Wow, this is cold.  I feel like I just watched a truly abusive event.  My stomach hurts.  Sorry, I find your comment really inappropriate.

This is the first episode I've watched, so I can't say whether Susie planned exiting or not--because not having watched the previous eps, I don't know--but I actually thought she seemed very quick to give up and leave, rather than stay to try to discuss the situation further with a man she said she supposedly had feelings for. The way she responded to Clayton's admission did not say "terribly devastated" to me.  BUT THEN Clayton tried to shift the blame to her, and bam!,  I didn't care if she was truly into him or not.  I'd have left, too. 

[Amy Beth]

I’m still trying to process that he thought telling Susie he loved her “the most” would win her over.

[DEL901]

I think Clayton saying she, Susie, was his front runner made things worse.  If he honestly didn’t know which he cared for the most, she might have been able to accept him sleeping with the others…although the love declarations were always going to be problematic.    But telling her she was number one, but he loved the others too and just wanted to be sure….a bridge too far. 

Edited March 9, 2022 by DEL901

[Lamb18]

After The Women Tell All last night I liked Clayton better because he seemed to take all the criticism with good grace.

But I feel like the real Clayton has been under wraps this whole time, like the wolf disguised as Grandma.

[Kiss my mutt]

I feel like I witnessed something really disturbing tonight.  It’s going to take a while to cool off. I really hope it’s not Susie’s door he’s knocking on next week. 

[Recyclorette]

4 minutes ago, Jax7917 said:

I’m not saying he’s not an asshole . She’s right in everything she’s saying . But to me it came off very planned and like she was looking for an out . I’m not agreeing with how he reacted to her ( which was terrible ), but I’m just stating my observation . 

That may be the case with Susie, but she wouldn't be the first one to play the game.

But Clayton's frightening behavior was a real-life example of abuse.  It could at least serve as a learning experience for a woman who might need to see something like this to get it.  I just hate to see Clayton's behavior diluted in any way by reflecting any of this back at Susie.

[EllenB]

48 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

I've never seen anyone be this much of an ass on this show. Not even Pablo. It made me sick to my stomach that Susie was apologizing to him and feeling like she did something wrong. What a manipulative, gaslighting asshole.

Juan Pablo was just a run-of-the-mill tool. Ees okay. This guy is a Jake-level jerk.

[UGAmp]

The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if the lead gets paid “bonuses” for certain things. Like $10,000 per contestant that says “I’m falling in love with you” or $1,000 per every contestant that does not self-eliminate and you get to reject them on your own. But these “bonuses” are under the table through endorsement deals with sugar bear hair or whatever so as to keep the “integrity” of this show. I’ve wondered it more and more in recent season where the producers are constantly trying to top themselves from the previous “most dramatic final rose ceremony EVER”.  

The conspiracy theorist in me also thinks Susie was looking for an out. She almost pulled an Andi Dorfman who was all in love with JP until the morning after the fantasy suite. Then she flipped her story/feelings real fast when she saw she might win and not get to be the bachelorette. But I do think Susie is more genuine than Andi so maybe it was all legit. I know other leads have said they only slept with their winner but the show portrays it as all three or 2/3. So maybe she really thought he would only want to be with her if she really was his number one (what a crazy thought to have).  

I heard on a Bachelor recap podcast I listen to said that some dating guru, or podcast, or former reality contestant or something of the sort (I can’t remember it exactly) has been training a girl who was on this season to be the winner. Everyone thought it was Sarah but was it really Susie this whole time? Cause girl has the support of America right now. 

oh and Clayton is a doooooooooouche. 

Edited March 9, 2022 by UGAmp

[sauce62]

Team Susie all the way. Good for her for having some dignity. He was just pissed he wasn't going to be up all night to get lucky. How dare she call him out on sleeping with other women? "After everything we've been through?" What a colossal crock of shit. I loathe him. Blaming HER for not telling him? Is he dense? This franchise needs to stop. It is toxic for the participants and audience as well.

[KenyaJ]

34 minutes ago, EllenB said:

Juan Pablo was just a run-of-the-mill tool. Ees okay. This guy is a Jake-level jerk.

Oooh, I forgot about Jake.  Or maybe I blocked him from my memory because he was so awful.

[TheFinalRose]

When was Susie supposed to give him this ultimatum? I think Susie was experiencing the classic case of only figuring out how you truly feel when you are in the middle of a situation. The closer you get to the decision point, the more you understand your feelings. That's how people make what look like snap decisions, but they aren't really snap decisions, they are building up to a point when everything else falls away and you know exactly where you stand and what doesn't work anymore. And in the midst of this crazy show, I think Susie made a good decision that the way she would know she could trust Clay-ens real feelings for her would be if he abstained from man-whoring. And whoops! He. Did. Not. 

The way he switched and turned this on her--he ain't coming back from this. He threw her in the limo for having the AUDACITY to choose for herself what she wanted out of a fiance.  The only appropriate ending now is for Jesse to say "this is going to change everything. Shanae is BACK and she's your surprise F1."

 

Edited March 9, 2022 by TheFinalRose

[EssieMay]

3 hours ago, dizzyd said:

Suzie sounds like she’s self eliminating.

That sounds like something to do with the digestive system, like she’s cr*pping herself.

[call me ishmael]

I seem to remember a bachelor named Clayton who sent someone named Cassidy home because she had slept with someone shortly before leaving for taping.  Does anyone remember which season that was???