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GracieK

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  1. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    I don't know if I fully agree that some of the others didn't lose their minds in some way (in every season). They cast it that way for maximum drama. Cam was all anxious and desperate to get his story out, Luke P came off to me like a whiny baby but at least he made the choice to walk on his own, and some of the others involved with the in-fighting probably weren't their best selves in this environment either. Lots of people lose their minds in this environment. That's what brings a lot of the drama, without which there wouldn't be as much intrigue and stuff to talk about.. so in that way, he fulfilled his role and was actually perfect for the show.. just not for Hannah.
  2. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    Maybe Luke just wasn't right for Hannah just as the other 28/29 guys weren't.
  3. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    Frankly I get tired of this whole culture of “how dare you judge me”. Our entire lives are based on judgement. Everyone makes judgements on others every single day of our lives. Luke has every right to have standards for the relationship he chooses to engage in. This entire process (and every Bachelor process) was Hannah making judgements on the men and eliminating those that didn’t fall within her set of standards. She has even mocked, ridiculed and expressed anger over those that she judged (always be Cam anybody?). I don’t even like Luke or want to defend him in any way but let’s be realistic.. he didn’t slut shame her or call her a whore. He laid out what he wants in a relationship and seemed genuinely shocked that Hannah felt differently. Luke is a douche for a lot of things this season but I found that conversation to hardly be one of them.
  4. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    Great points. I think what you described regarding Hannah and Luke fits them to a tee and most of it is due to a lack of maturity. I also think Hannah doesn’t like being told what to do so like a somewhat petulant and rebellious child, the more the other guys tried to steer her away from Luke, the more she wanted to dig her heels in with him. And he definitely felt invested as he thought he was doing everything she asked of him.. poor communication that is also indicative of a lack of maturity and experience.
  5. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    I guess I don’t know what you mean since that hasn’t been my experience. In my experience when people say they share the same values it’s in regards to their beliefs on family, faith, and community among other things. I went to 12 years of Catholic School and the values we were taught included abstinence but that certainly was far from the only one. Obviously everyone has their own experience though.
  6. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    I would think in this context the sex part of the values would be more relevant. I’m sure if they were married and involved in their church community it would involve helping the poor, feeding the homeless, etc.
  7. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    Why thank you.. and back atcha!
  8. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    Yes!!! This show didn’t always mean that you sleep with every person in the fantasy suites. And you know what, if she chooses to, of course she is a grown woman capable of making that decision. That also means she’s a grown woman who should be prepared to face the consequences of that decision. One of those consequences may be that the super born again Christian you brought along to the end will be uncomfortable with that and may find it a deal breaker. She could have accepted that and gracefully ended it with him. I mean Luke is still a huge, immature idiot and asking to pray over her was weird. But his creepiness aside, she knew what he was all about and her expectation that he should just accept that she is having sex with multiple people if he really loves her is just strange and seems really out of touch with reality.
  9. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    Omg this 100%. It’s funny that she accuses Luke in her talking head of only loving someone the way he sees it... she has been ordering him around the entire season. Even to the last as they are walking to the car and she barks “walk with me!” She is so self centered. Whenever my husband watches with me he will say multiple times “Hannah is awful”. She talks over people, she interrupted every one of the guys in front of their families to tell the story her way. She ridiculed and enumerated why they all weren’t good enough but have no fear.. she also explained how she “fixed” them. She has no respect for anyone else’s opinion but her own and she definitely cannot handle being challenged or take any constructive criticism. The same thing happened when Jed expressed his concerns about her keeping Luke. She was seething that he dared even question her, but she did manage to mostly keep her cool and not shout him away. She’s just a huge pain in the ass and God bless whoever chooses a life with her.. hope you enjoy being constantly berated and controlled.
  10. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    Crap I was just trying to edit a misspelled word and accidentally quoted myself
  11. GracieK

    S15.E10: Week 10

    Luke is dumber than a box of rocks. He really is a simpleton. I don’t, however, think that expressing the opinion that you are not comfortable with your intended to be sleeping with multiple men in the space of a few days before you plan on proposing marriage justifies the completely over the top reaction from Hannah. He’s allowed to feel that way just as much as she’s allowed to fuck an entire village. I think she was unnecessarily cruel in how she rubbed her sexual tryst in his face. And I think it was disrespectful to Peter to speak about their experience the way she did to Luke and in her talking head. It just felt very low class and tacky to me.. like is this Jerry Springer now?
  12. GracieK

    S15.E09: Week 9: Hometown Dates

    Hannah looked extremely pleased with herself when she came back with 2 roses.. as if the guys would just be so grateful to her for getting her way and not upset at the implications. Read a room Hannah.. they were all clearly pissed - except maybe clueless Luke who never seems to pick up on what’s going on. Those two are meant for each other.
  13. GracieK

    S15.E06: Week 6: Latvia

    One of the most confusing things is why she has so much angst over Luke? She hasn’t appeared to enjoy him since week 2.. in fact she seems annoyed and disgusted by him all the time. I guess there must be something pleasant between them that hasn’t been shown at all since that time. He’s such a robot. Oh Hannah said show some emotion.. scream or something. So he comes back and literally goes I’m going to stand back here so I can awkwardly act like I need to scream. Gaaahhh it’s so cringy!!
  14. GracieK

    S15.E06: Week 6: Latvia

    The MTA and the Final Rose episodes are for recaps. There must be serious problems with this season for the editors and producers besides the obvious if they are wasting time with this. It’s like they knew how tedious the last 2 episodes were and they are trying to be feel good but it’s backfiring big time. My husband is actually home tonight to watch it with me and he just goes “Wow I hope they have a clip show of the interview they just showed”.
  15. GracieK

    S15.E06: Week 6: Latvia

    Oh.. and I swear I know better than to buy into the drama of the previews but I really thought Garrett made some inappropriate comments or confronted her about her sexual ahem freedom.. and it was absolutely nothing!
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