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2 hours ago, ChelleGame said:

Whaaaaaa?

I just blacked out. Worst nightmare.

Remember that show where the valets in LA were copying people's house keys, then looking at their registration to get their home addresses to rob. But they'd hide in the ceiling crawl space for weeks and watch the family, learn the routine, then come down from the ceiling and murder everyone. No forced entry because they had keys so there were zero clues. 

Haunted me for years. I changed how we deal with valets, etc, after that. I was so spooked.

That house though...

It's so out of proportion big that it swallowed all the furniture. All of the furniture looked to be weirdly sized because the space was so cavernous. Pretty details though. I think I liked the small touches more than the house itself.

One of my worst fears is to have a malicious person living in my house (perhaps basement or attic) without me knowing. The bigger the house...the more likely it is to happen.

It was actually an issue when the housing bubble first burst in California and squatters were sneaking into empty or abandoned foreclosed houses, which were then sold to unknowing buyers without proper inspections.

I remember the Osbornes had this state-of-the-art security system in their mansion. Then they found out their head security guard was actually helping with robberies in the neighborhood though I don't remember the exact details or how it went down.

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12 hours ago, Lisa418722 said:

I would never want a house like Heather's even if I won the lottery.  The  house just seems too cold and formal to me, a place that I would never feel comfortable.  That being said, I would love to have the bathroom towel heating drawer.  Yeah, that, I would have installed if I had the space and the money.  

I would love a heated towel drawer and that amazing pool and view. Other than that, I would take a pass, even though I wish my house was larger. My house may be small, but it is a home where people come in and feel comfortable.

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12 hours ago, amarante said:

Much as there are some people who criticize Heather for being pretentious I think she does a pretty good job - at least so far - of controlling her image and they seem to have navigated the waters or reality television fame successfully - their marriage is intact and their children seem to be growing up well. At this point I doubt whether there are any secrets that will crawl out from under the rocks.

I agree with you, she does a great job. But that is also my problem with her: everything is so controlled and everything is about her (and their) image. Where's the authenticity? I like all the others who come out with their real problems. Heather has never revealed any real problems to the audience. Remember when Terry mentioned at some dinner that the D word had come out in a conversation? (D as in divorce. Not D as in the pleasuring part.) Heather was absolutely crushed and livid that he said it in company and in front of the cameras. I think that's the only time I've seen a glimpse to the real Heather. 

I just don't like pretentious people. Give me authenticity. (Yes, one might ask why I'm watching a show like this then 😅😅)

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On 12/3/2021 at 4:35 AM, RoseAllDay said:

It was conspicuous consumption on steroids. Before, I could tolerate and maybe be slightly amused by her grandiosity. But Wednesday was just too much of it in my face. I don’t begrudge people having nice things. But I don’t appreciate it when those nice things are used to try to one-up one’s peers, or to show how much better off one is.

Comparatively speaking, I always liked Heather. But she’s dropped a few notches with me. Did not miss Kelly, Brawnwyn, or Elizabeth at all. This cast looks like at least they’ll bring something to the table this year to revive this franchise a little and finally get beyond the ghosts of Tamra and Vicki.

I am very happy that Kelly, Braunwyn & Elizabeth are no longer on the show.

I always wanted to see Heather's home after it was completed. The construction was a big plot line before she left the show.

Dr Jen & Noella are good addition to the show.

I would love to see Detective Meghan King Edmonds back on the show. She would uncover any scandals that the other Housewives are involved in.

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13 minutes ago, oakville said:

I am very happy that Kelly, Braunwyn & Elizabeth are no longer on the show.

I always wanted to see Heather's home after it was completed. The construction was a big plot line before she left the show.

Dr Jen & Noella are good addition to the show.

I would love to see Detective Meghan King Edmonds back on the show. She would uncover any scandals that the other Housewives are involved in.

I was going to ask you who is Elizabeth? I could not remember an Elizabeth.  Instead I just decided to use my brain and Google lol. I forgot her lol. Wow they got rid so many housewives. 

Kelly, Brawnwyn, Elizabeth, Vicki, Tamara. 

I didn't realize The OC had so many housewives the last season. 8 including the 3 still on.

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9 hours ago, Glama said:

I agree with you, she does a great job. But that is also my problem with her: everything is so controlled and everything is about her (and their) image. Where's the authenticity? I like all the others who come out with their real problems. Heather has never revealed any real problems to the audience. Remember when Terry mentioned at some dinner that the D word had come out in a conversation? (D as in divorce. Not D as in the pleasuring part.) Heather was absolutely crushed and livid that he said it in company and in front of the cameras. I think that's the only time I've seen a glimpse to the real Heather. 

I just don't like pretentious people. Give me authenticity. (Yes, one might ask why I'm watching a show like this then 😅😅)

The thing is, I think both Heather and Terry are authentically pretentious. Part of the reason why I can deal with Heather is because she isn't pretentious to put on a front - like someone like Vicki whose pretentiousness was all about hiding her massive insecurities and narcissism. Heather and Terry HAVE a lot of money. They truly are that rich. So I can find Heather's pretentiousness entertaining because she's faking it.

If I knew her in real life, I would find them so annoying because having lots of money =/= being a good and decent person. But as a "character" on a tv show, I just appreciate the fact that she is who she pretends to be on tv. 

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I’m finding the roasting of Heather for her overconsumption and pretentiousness and the “poor suffering Terry who will be doing boob jobs into his 80s to support his wife’s lifestyle” comments to be incredibly misogynistic and sexist.

Lest we forget that it was Terry who pushed Heather to be on this show in the first place and supposedly didn’t speak to her for 2 weeks until she agreed. The same Terry who was on that Swan show, Dr. 90210, and now has Botched. Why are we assuming that Heather has his balls in a vice?

 

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Ugh...I've always hated Madame Puppet and her gross fame-whoring huzzbin, but it never fails to make me sad when I see the children of these nitwits. The kids are never involved with charity. Or school. Or culture. Or the Arts. They just always come across as wise-ass, clueless, BORING trailer trash with no aspirations to anything. But I guess when the parents are vapid, useless fame-whores, you can't hope for decent kids. Can't we find ONE remotely interesting civic-minded ho-wife for this franchise? Now we're stuck recycling these rubes with a mausoleum for a house. 😴 and 🤮

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Did Shannon ever have COVID? I could very well just be projecting, but I started to black out when drinking my usual amount at the club after I had it. I started taking notes in my phone so I would remember people’s names and conversations that I had. Scary shit. 
 

I do feel for Shannon. Life comes in chapters and sometimes they are hard to revisit. Heather said on WWHL that she never got a vibe that Shannon was feeling sad during the tour.

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On 12/2/2021 at 6:35 PM, kristen111 said:

Heather doesn’t belong here anymore.  She can’t jell with the rest.  Shannon looks completely lost.  The rest of the regulars have zero in common with Heather.  How could it work?

They could all work at the Dubrow Mansion in some form.  I'm guessing they need people to teach the kids how to drive.  Probably need security.  Someone to fluff the warm towels..... Let those poor dogs out to run around and go to the bathroom.  The important stuff that Fancy Pants can't do.

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3 hours ago, Cozytea said:

I was going to ask you who is Elizabeth? I could not remember an Elizabeth.  Instead I just decided to use my brain and Google lol. I forgot her lol. Wow they got rid so many housewives. 

Kelly, Brawnwyn, Elizabeth, Vicki, Tamara. 

I didn't realize The OC had so many housewives the last season. 8 including the 3 still on.

I am not sure why Elizabeth was cast on the show. She was in the midst of a difficult divorce & was unwilling or unable to discuss it. She had a home on the beach that was very close to  bike paths. Cyclists would interrupt the filming of the show while she was on her patio which overlooked the beach.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

They could all work at the Dubrow Mansion in some form.  I'm guessing they need people to teach the kids how to drive.  Probably need security.  Someone to fluff the warm towels..... Let those poor dogs out to run around and go to the bathroom.  The important stuff that Fancy Pants can't do.

I thought it would make more sense to have Heather on the RHOBH. She is wealthy enough to afford to take a helicopter to L.A. for events. I also believe she would not be afraid to confront Erika Jayne.

50 minutes ago, JakeyJokes said:

Did Shannon ever have COVID? I could very well just be projecting, but I started to black out when drinking my usual amount at the club after I had it. I started taking notes in my phone so I would remember people’s names and conversations that I had. Scary shit. 
 

I do feel for Shannon. Life comes in chapters and sometimes they are hard to revisit. Heather said on WWHL that she never got a vibe that Shannon was feeling sad during the tour.

Shannon got Covid from her twin daughters that snuck out of the house to attend a party.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/stars-who-have-tested-positive-for-coronavirus/shannon-beador/

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

I am not sure why Elizabeth was cast on the show. She was in the midst of a difficult divorce & was unwilling or unable to discuss it. She had a home on the beach that was very close to  bike paths. Cyclists would interrupt the filming of the show while she was on her patio which overlooked the beach.

 

 

Yes she was going thru a divorce that she could not talk about and grew up in a religious cult but she did not own that house on the beach it was rented for filming, she really lived in a condo around the corner over looking a marina. 

The problem with Heather being on the show is she is married, wealthy, works occasionally in a glamorous field but most of the other women are divorced or soon to be, don't have the level of wealth HW's are supposed to have. We need that old version of the show, the house porn, the shopping for jewelry, a salacious story line, something a bit more hefty than Shannon knowing someone from 20 years ago who may or may not have had and settled a law suit against Terry D.

Heather is the LVP of the show but not the MVP.

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On 12/4/2021 at 3:54 PM, Pondlass1 said:

I drape my towel over the radiator so it’s lovely and warm when I step out of the shower. (It’s an old house☺️)

I’m a hairstylist and I have a towel warmer for my clients when I’m finished shampooing. My clients love it! Yet, I still have no idea how it actually feels lol. 

24 minutes ago, CharlizeCat said:

I don't know ... if I were Nicole (Nicola?) and Terry gave me that face, I'd sue him, too!

She looks like an Elf 

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On 12/2/2021 at 5:01 PM, Boo Boo said:

Heather used to seem like the epitome of class.  Now I think her house looks tacky (not all of it, but most of it) and she's dressing tacky (the I dream of Jeannie hair) and looks cheap (the makeup looks BAD).

And I can't help but wonder how much money it takes to maintain that house, to pay the taxes on that house.  Does Terry really make that much dough? I guess he does but I could see a couple of bad investments and that house needs to be sold.

I was anticipating this show.  Now, I don’t know if I can watch Heatherand the two new imbicils.

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On 12/4/2021 at 8:19 AM, Lisa418722 said:

That being said, I would love to have the bathroom towel heating drawer.  Yeah, that, I would have installed if I had the space and the money.  

I want that and the ice maker that won't hurt my teeth. And maybe the portico thing.  oh,and maybe a personal chef.

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3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Yes she was going thru a divorce that she could not talk about and grew up in a religious cult but she did not own that house on the beach it was rented for filming, she really lived in a condo around the corner over looking a marina. 

The problem with Heather being on the show is she is married, wealthy, works occasionally in a glamorous field but most of the other women are divorced or soon to be, don't have the level of wealth HW's are supposed to have. We need that old version of the show, the house porn, the shopping for jewelry, a salacious story line, something a bit more hefty than Shannon knowing someone from 20 years ago who may or may not have had and settled a law suit against Terry D.

Heather is the LVP of the show but not the MVP.

I loved the first 2 seasons of the show with Jeana being the wealthiest Housewife on the show. Her husband was a retired baseball player. Vicki had a very nice home as well & Don was an executive with Home Depot or Lowe's.

Shannon may have been wealthier than Heather Dubrow when she was married. I liked Shannon's house when she first appeared on the show.

RHOC wives on average never had the same wealth as the cast of RHOBH.

 

 

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On 12/2/2021 at 6:26 PM, TexasGal said:

I think Nicole looks like she went into a plastic surgeon with a picture of Denise Richards, and that was as close as she could get.  

Yes, I also thought she resembled Denise Richards. 

But she also looks like another past Bravo celeb

Recall what's her name from the now defunct "Ladies of London" - Caroline Stanbury.

Sophie Stanbury was the pretty brunette sister in law of 😉. Nicole looks like her.

https://www.instagram.com/sophiestanbury/?hl=en

 

 

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20 hours ago, Glama said:

I agree with you, she does a great job. But that is also my problem with her: everything is so controlled and everything is about her (and their) image. Where's the authenticity? I like all the others who come out with their real problems. Heather has never revealed any real problems to the audience. Remember when Terry mentioned at some dinner that the D word had come out in a conversation? (D as in divorce. Not D as in the pleasuring part.) Heather was absolutely crushed and livid that he said it in company and in front of the cameras. I think that's the only time I've seen a glimpse to the real Heather. 

I just don't like pretentious people. Give me authenticity. (Yes, one might ask why I'm watching a show like this then 😅😅)

 

9 hours ago, StevieRocks said:

Ugh...I've always hated Madame Puppet and her gross fame-whoring huzzbin, but it never fails to make me sad when I see the children of these nitwits. The kids are never involved with charity. Or school. Or culture. Or the Arts. They just always come across as wise-ass, clueless, BORING trailer trash with no aspirations to anything. But I guess when the parents are vapid, useless fame-whores, you can't hope for decent kids. Can't we find ONE remotely interesting civic-minded ho-wife for this franchise? Now we're stuck recycling these rubes with a mausoleum for a house. 😴 and 🤮

 

2 hours ago, oakville said:

I loved the first 2 seasons of the show with Jeana being the wealthiest Housewife on the show. Her husband was a retired baseball player. Vicki had a very nice home as well & Don was an executive with Home Depot or Lowe's.

Shannon may have been wealthier than Heather Dubrow when she was married. I liked Shannon's house when she first appeared on the show.

RHOC wives on average never had the same wealth as the cast of RHOBH.

 

 

I remember one of the stupid things some of the housewives would do is pretend that they maintained their often gigantic houses by themselves. Of course, some people believed it and commented how cool it was these women kept these houses so clean and had time to be on the show.

Then we had Shannon throw a party at her house. Everyone has a good time, gets wasted, and then decides to go play in Shannon's underground basketball court (yes, her home had an underground basketball court and a hidden secret room for her daughters' tea parties). 

The first thing we see is a maid vacuuming the steps behind the guests as they were running down to the basketball court. 

I think she was the first howife that allowed the servants to be filmed. The others would not allow that to be filmed because they wanted to maintain an illusion that they "do it all". Heather was one of those that always talked about "how busy" she was all the time.

Shannon was so cool during her first season.

There was also a time that Heather got a walk-on part in some sitcom at the time. She claimed that it was because of her previous career in Hollywood. We found out that they just wanted a reality star for the press and had asked Alexis and some others as well.

She and Terry just always seemed incredibly insecure though they seemed to have it all on the surface.

 

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2 hours ago, Bossa Nova said:

Yes, I also thought she resembled Denise Richards. 

But she also looks like another past Bravo celeb

Recall what's her name from the now defunct "Ladies of London" - Caroline Stanbury.

Sophie Stanbury was the pretty brunette sister in law of 😉. Nicole looks like her.

https://www.instagram.com/sophiestanbury/?hl=en

 

 

Caroline Stansbury should move to California & join RHOBH or RHOC. I saw her on Million Dollar Listing LA a few years go when she was living in Dubai. I think she divorced her husband. She reminds me of Lisa VanderPump

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

Caroline Stansbury should move to California & join RHOBH or RHOC. I saw her on Million Dollar Listing LA a few years go when she was living in Dubai. I think she divorced her husband. She reminds me of Lisa VanderPump

Caroline will be on Real Housewives of Dubai, debuting next year 

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On 12/1/2021 at 10:39 PM, Emmeline said:

Noella seems interesting to me, she could have potential.      

 

Not to me.  People who start out talking openly about their sex life bore me.  Nobody but your husband cares about your blow job capabilities.  People who brag about that sort of thing are usually hardly getting any in real life.  Shut up already.  

As for Heather?  I never liked her and this episode didn't change that.  She's heinous!

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On 12/2/2021 at 11:14 AM, dmeets said:

So is the big secret that Shannon's spreading gossip? What is the scandal: that Nicole allegedly sued Terry, or is it that Shannon is telling other people this? And this info is enough to potentially ruin Heather's party? I don't get it.

What I don't understand is why is Nicole trying to be friends with Heather after suing her husband?  Is there an ulterior motive?  Is she living by the creed keep your friends close and your enemies closer?  Why are they mad at Shannon but not Nicole?  I don't get it either.

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5 hours ago, swankie said:

Not to me.  People who start out talking openly about their sex life bore me.  Nobody but your husband cares about your blow job capabilities.  People who brag about that sort of thing are usually hardly getting any in real life.  Shut up already.  

As for Heather?  I never liked her and this episode didn't change that.  She's heinous!

Exactly,  how many housewives have come on bragging about their sex lives and sex rooms ect? That is interesting to who? I'm glad you're doing wild and crazy sex( claiming)but I should care why? 

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20 hours ago, oakville said:

I am not sure why Elizabeth was cast on the show. She was in the midst of a difficult divorce & was unwilling or unable to discuss it. She had a home on the beach that was very close to  bike paths. Cyclists would interrupt the filming of the show while she was on her patio which overlooked the beach.

 

 

And wasn't the house rented? Last season I believe her, Shannon, Kelly and Brownwind were all renting. Nothing wrong with it, but rich people rarely rent their primary residence, unless it is while they are having a home built (Heather, Sutton on BH). It just felt like a bunch of phonies pretending they were rich. Which, we have certainly seen before on the franchise, it just isn't something I watch for. I actually liked Vickie's home the best, and last season, to my utter amazement, I thought Tamra's house was nice and tastefully decorated (she must have hired a decorator). But, I don't want Tamra back. Could tolerate Vicki, because she cam be good TV, but rather she just stay gone. I don't have a read on the new ones yet, but the one husband apparently cannot afford shirts, so that's wierd😀

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On 12/5/2021 at 7:30 AM, oakville said:

I am very happy that Kelly, Braunwyn & Elizabeth are no longer on the show.

I always wanted to see Heather's home after it was completed. The construction was a big plot line before she left the show.

Dr Jen & Noella are good addition to the show.

I would love to see Detective Meghan King Edmonds back on the show. She would uncover any scandals that the other Housewives are involved in.

If I had to tolerate Meghan again it would only be worth it if they moved her to BH and put her on Erika's case. Now that would be worth watching.

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I could care less about what is happening with Heather's kids. 

Now going in for the superficial for a moment: 

The super high, very long, thick ponytail extensions need to go, ladies. Especially if you are in  your 40's and beyond. 

Shannon's white jeans and chunky black cheap looking sandals make another appearance this season. Does she have any other clothes? She's looking puffy, her saggy jowls are back and her face is looking old. I get it, we all age but didn't she get herself a whole bunch of plastic surgery not too long ago?  She's obviously still drinking heavily. She doesn't have too much to say about John anymore. I look for that to fizzle after another year or so. Time to do something with that mop of hair, too. Oh, and older daughter has the right idea. Stay in Texas after you graduate. Away from your crazy mom. 

I have never seen such hideous wardrobe choices as the stuff new dark haired lady was wearing. Truly dreadful. She is trying so, soooo hard right out of the gate. Sex dungeon and all. 

Gina looking fabulous and making the most sense of all of them. Go figure. The one with the least amount of money is the most enjoyable to watch. 

 

 

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On 12/1/2021 at 8:35 PM, nexxie said:

Is it Shannon’s makeup, or too many fillers?

Her face looked overfilled to me. It’s either that or she has gained weight. I don’t understand the obsession with filler. I think it looks unnatural on most people. Ok, so some lines are minimized, but the definition of the face is compromised. Many of them end up with moon faces. 

Plus I saw a video a plastic surgeon did on filler. He said it doesn’t stay where you put it. It travels into other parts of the face and lasts much longer than you think, which is why people end up looking freakish. 

I thought Heather’s bragging was annoying. I like the medley the producers did of her going on and on. I never really liked her so I’m not thrilled she’s back. I’ll take her over Braunwyn though. 

I know it’s expensive and huge but I wouldn’t want to live in Heather’s house. That is too much for me. It reminded me of a hotel. I want something that looks comfortable and like a home, not a showplace. 

Well it looks like a blow-up is brewing between Heather and one of the new women… 

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Maybe Nicole sued Terry for a botched nose job? It's nearing Michael Jackson territory. She looks SO done, and not in a good way. Like a bad mashup of Denise Richards and Gizelle Bryant.

 

Shannon was absolutely seething with jealousy during Heather's tour...wow!

Also, never like Heather. And can't stand Terry.

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On 12/1/2021 at 9:13 PM, Bronzedog said:

Heather’s house seems very cold to me.  3 minutes in and now I remember how she bragged about absolutely everything.  

I don’t know how I’d feel about being represented by a lawyer who passed the bar by default.  I wonder how he feels about being outed on tv for being a lawyer because they lowered the bar until he could pass it.

Think I’m switching channels at 9:30.

I will never understand these GIANT mcmansions.  They are cold looking (and probably ridiculous to heat). To each their own, but I have seen decent size houses that have multiple bathrooms, bedrooms etc, but seem cozy.  This just seems stupid to me.  NO ONE needs a house that size (I guess except for Heather and her crew) UGH 

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On 12/1/2021 at 11:16 PM, oakville said:

Heather has taken control of the show based on the first episode. It will be interesting to see if Shannon ends up getting along with her or collapses due to jealousy.

Producers probably forced Shannon to communicate with Heather, or else she would have been out.  After what Heather did to her, it must be very hard to eat shit to stay on this show.  Now, she has to be a phony.  She looks lost.  I  don’t think Gina and Emily are her cup of tea.  Damn, divorce ruins lots of things.

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22 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Her face looked overfilled to me. It’s either that or she has gained weight. I don’t understand the obsession with filler. I think it looks unnatural on most people. Ok, so some lines are minimized, but the definition of the face is compromised. Many of them end up with moon faces. 

Plus I saw a video a plastic surgeon did on filler. He said it doesn’t stay where you put it. It travels into other parts of the face and lasts much longer than you think, which is why people end up looking freakish. 

I thought Heather’s bragging was annoying. I like the medley the producers did of her going on and on. I never really liked her so I’m not thrilled she’s back. I’ll take her over Braunwyn though. 

I know it’s expensive and huge but I wouldn’t want to live in Heather’s house. That is too much for me. It reminded me of a hotel. I want something that looks comfortable and like a home, not a showplace. 

Well it looks like a blow-up is brewing between Heather and one of the new women… 

Fillers take the lines away, but you wind up with a bloated look.  Why not just age gracefully?  They think they look better, but they don’t.  Cher had beautiful lips, then ruined them.  She looked gorgeous in Moonstruck, at the Opera.

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On 12/1/2021 at 11:16 PM, oakville said:

Heather has taken control of the show based on the first episode. It will be interesting to see if Shannon ends up getting along with her or collapses due to jealousy.

One show and I’m disgusted already.  Heather looks fake.  That constant smiling like she’s gloating about her wealth.  They had to pick her?  Why?  She should go home and wash the floor or something.  On her knees.  In front of that scary fireplace.  I can’t even look at it.

 

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3 hours ago, kristen111 said:

One show and I’m disgusted already.  Heather looks fake.  That constant smiling like she’s gloating about her wealth.  They had to pick her?  Why?  She should go home and wash the floor or something.  On her knees.  In front of that scary fireplace.  I can’t even look at it.

 

Heather was the best option for the producers to try and get back viewers that stopped watching the show. They could have also tried to bring back Vicki or Jeanna. I doubt Lauri would want to come back given her son’s  incarceration. 

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To me, parts of Heather's house look more like an upscale conference center.  I can appreciate the workmanship.  However, my mind goes to the effort to keep it clean.  They have to have a large staff working on this.  If you have a place that needs constant upkeep beyond normal cleaning (especially with Heather's emphasis on everything being perfect and put away), it would feel more like being in a hotel.  I can imagine housekeepers cleaning each bedroom and bathroom daily. I enjoy a good hotel experience.  Doesn't mean I would want to raise a family in one.  

I'm glad Sophie wants to stay in Texas. It's good to see the RHOC kids breaking out on their own.  Moving away and establishing your own life is a key part of growing up.  Also, being away from Shannon's many neuroses will help.  Sophie can finally breathe more freely without Shannon around.

One thing I wonder with Heather's kids is how much they understand that the way they are living is not typical?  How will they adapt to a world outside of their bubble? 

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On 12/5/2021 at 11:19 AM, goofygirl said:

They could all work at the Dubrow Mansion in some form.  I'm guessing they need people to teach the kids how to drive.  Probably need security.  Someone to fluff the warm towels..... Let those poor dogs out to run around and go to the bathroom.  The important stuff that Fancy Pants can't do.

Don't forget "Tour Guide."

And a retail associate for the gift shop that belongs in that mausoleum somewhere.

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One thing I wonder with Heather's kids is how much they understand that the way they are living is not typical?  How will they adapt to a world outside of their bubble? 

Probably as much and as well as any other kids growing up under similar circumstances.

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On 12/6/2021 at 5:21 PM, Sweet-tea said:

Her face looked overfilled to me. It’s either that or she has gained weight. I don’t understand the obsession with filler. I think it looks unnatural on most people. Ok, so some lines are minimized, but the definition of the face is compromised. Many of them end up with moon faces. 

Plus I saw a video a plastic surgeon did on filler. He said it doesn’t stay where you put it. It travels into other parts of the face and lasts much longer than you think, which is why people end up looking freakish. 

I thought Heather’s bragging was annoying. I like the medley the producers did of her going on and on. I never really liked her so I’m not thrilled she’s back. I’ll take her over Braunwyn though. 

I know it’s expensive and huge but I wouldn’t want to live in Heather’s house. That is too much for me. It reminded me of a hotel. I want something that looks comfortable and like a home, not a showplace. 

Well it looks like a blow-up is brewing between Heather and one of the new women… 

Heather belongs in Beverly Hills.  Sit her next to Kathy Hilton.  Only then will she STFU.

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On 12/4/2021 at 4:27 PM, Cosmocrush said:

Fame.  I mean it's not like she's been running a foundation; she's got an entire youtube channel about her house and the crap (for sale, btw) in it.  Also apparently she has a podcast although who doesn't have one these days?

Cosmo, what?! The stuff inside Heather's house is for sale?? (I'm laughing picturing Heather having an Etsy shop, or maybe Baltimore Betty's gift shop idea was very on the nose!) Why would they do that? It's not like they need the money. 

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2 hours ago, WhatAmIWatching said:

Cosmo, what?! The stuff inside Heather's house is for sale?? (I'm laughing picturing Heather having an Etsy shop, or maybe Baltimore Betty's gift shop idea was very on the nose!) Why would they do that? It's not like they need the money. 

She's trying to make back the 36K she spent on that dud party!

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Apparently when trimming the episode down to an hour for the reruns, they cut out the entire house tour (with Gina's running commentary and Shannon's facial reactions) as well as Gina's reaction to the California Bar lowering the standards for Shane to pass. Yet they added "never before seen" footage from the Catching Up With The Dubrows breakfast scene. WTF? 99% of the reason people wanted to see Heather return was to see the fucking mansion. And by people I mean me. Hopefully the supersized episodes aren't a "you snooze you lose" type deal otherwise I'd have kept it on my DVR.

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On 12/6/2021 at 1:19 PM, bichonblitz said:

The super high, very long, thick ponytail extensions need to go, ladies. Especially if you are in  your 40's and beyond. 

Shannon's white jeans and chunky black cheap looking sandals make another appearance this season. Does she have any other clothes? She's looking puffy, her saggy jowls are back and her face is looking old. I get it, we all age but didn't she get herself a whole bunch of plastic surgery not too long ago?  She's obviously still drinking heavily. She doesn't have too much to say about John anymore. I look for that to fizzle after another year or so. Time to do something with that mop of hair, too.

Shannon looks like Jennifer Coolidge (no offense to Jennifer Coolidge).

Happy Hour Drinking GIF by HBO

 

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