Jeopardy! Season 38 (2021-2022)

[30 Helens]

10 hours ago, bankerchick said:

With all respect, I don't see what is so 'brave' or 'admirable' about Christine choosing not to wear a wig.  It's supershort now, but it's not unusual to see women with this hairstyle, some undoubtedly for the same reason as Christine. We all know what cancer looks like.  I find it much more attractive than the awful wig she was wearing.

It’s brave because it was clearly not something she was comfortable doing (otherwise she wouldn’t have started with the wig), yet she did it anyway.  On national TV. It’s admirable because she did it on behalf of other women in her position, who also might be feeling uncomfortable or less than about their appearance. And who may be inspired to shed their own wigs/ scarves and embrace their current beauty.

It’s one thing to have short hair as a style choice; I imagine it’s quite another to have that look foisted upon you. I’m guessing Christine’s chemo-generated ‘do has not made her feel attractive. I hope that public reaction has made her feel otherwise. (And I agree, she looks great.)

[illdoc]

13 hours ago, 853fisher said:

 When Ken said he "suspected" we'd see her again, I re-read the fine print on the website and 4 and up is "eligible" but not "guaranteed": "other eligibility rules apply and final selection is up to the producers' sole discretion."  I guess there still is plenty of playing left to do before that tapes.

I believe "5+" is guaranteed. Certain "tournament champions" (such as Teachers Tournament) are guaranteed. I think this year's 4th place College Tournament (the one who won the semi but didn't get to the final) is guaranteed. Once those slots are filled, I believe they then go to "4 time winners" based on amount of money won (and then 3 timers if needed). At least, that's how it always worked in the past (except for putting Emma, who didn't really qualify, into the tourney so she could face "Jeopardy James" again).

[Leeds]

5 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

It’s brave because it was clearly not something she was comfortable doing (otherwise she wouldn’t have started with the wig), yet she did it anyway.  On national TV. It’s admirable because she did it on behalf of other women in her position, who also might be feeling uncomfortable or less than about their appearance. And who may be inspired to shed their own wigs/ scarves and embrace their current beauty.

It’s one thing to have short hair as a style choice; I imagine it’s quite another to have that look foisted upon you. I’m guessing Christine’s chemo-generated ‘do has not made her feel attractive. I hope that public reaction has made her feel otherwise. (And I agree, she looks great.)

Thank you for articulating this so thoughtfully and compassionately.

[MrAtoz]

I only won three games, but I was on the "Tournament of Champions Tracker" on jeopardy.com for quite awhile until enough 4-game winners came along to push me off of it.  I think there is language somewhere on the website to the effect that being on the list doesn't guarantee a spot in the tournament, and that the producers have sole discretion to select tournament participants.

Theoretically, they could invite anybody to the TOC, even someone who had won no games at all.  They wouldn't do that, of course, but there's no rule that says they can't.

[Grundoon59]

Since the Sondheim category would be on my dream Jeopardy board (in fact if I could make the whole board just random facts about his musicals/career, I would be a thrilled contestant), I was afraid they wouldn't get to all the clues since they seemed to be avoiding it for awhile.  But I cheered as they answered each and every one of them.  I would have included some other of his shows like Company or Merrily We Roll Along or Gypsy but I was glad Assassins and Into the Woods made the cut.

FJ was an Instaget for me - I went through a period of intense interest in movies of the 1930s and knew the movies/Gable right away. 

[Mindthinkr]

I did better than expected last night although it wasn’t great. I did get Six Feet Under, TB, Fellini, and somehow got stuck on Buster Keaton for FJ because I heard his name mentioned a few days ago. I knew it was wrong. I should have paid more attention to the years as 1939 was a giveaway. 
 

@saber5055 Hooray for seeing the Havanese dog. One of my neighbors has one and it is so adorable. 

[853fisher]

3 hours ago, illdoc said:

I believe "5+" is guaranteed. Certain "tournament champions" (such as Teachers Tournament) are guaranteed. I think this year's 4th place College Tournament (the one who won the semi but didn't get to the final) is guaranteed. Once those slots are filled, I believe they then go to "4 time winners" based on amount of money won (and then 3 timers if needed). At least, that's how it always worked in the past (except for putting Emma, who didn't really qualify, into the tourney so she could face "Jeopardy James" again).

I think you've summed it up well.  I got myself confused because the boilerplate that I swear has in the past read something like "all 5-time and up champions are eligible" now reads "all 4-time and up champions are eligible."  It has seemed in the past that the ToC is at no fixed time, so I guess I assumed that change meant they would cut off eligibility and have a tournament as soon as they had 15 people on the list with at least 4 wins, and never got that out of my head after the producer announced they would be done every year at the same time moving forward.  I suppose it's possible, if unlikely, that they might have enough 6-time winners to bump off the 5-time ones by then.

[proserpina65]

20 hours ago, PaulaO said:

Would it kill Christine to crack a smile?  Talk about grim.

Why does she have to smile?  She seems pleasant enough and she's a good champion.

16 hours ago, Katy M said:

I got FJ, but it took me almost the whole time.  I only knew Gone with the Wind

I should've gotten it since GWTW is my mother's favorite movie but I got confused over the years, thought they were much earlier (in the 20s) and said Paul Muni.

16 hours ago, 853fisher said:

I liked Margaret too,

I don't, and found her whole look way too kitschy, but she might improve with repeated viewing.  Or she could be gone after tonight.

[Bastet]

30 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

Why does she have to smile?

Oh, you don't know the rule that women have to walk around smiling all the time no matter what they're doing or feeling?

[Bklyndeb]

34 minutes ago, Bastet said:

Oh, you don't know the rule that women have to walk around smiling all the time no matter what they're doing or feeling?

One of the upsides of wearing a mask, aside from not getting or transmitting Covid, was not having to smile when I didn't want to to avoid being called a b*itch.

[Prevailing Wind]

2 hours ago, Bklyndeb said:

One of the upsides of wearing a mask, aside from not getting or transmitting Covid, was not having to smile when I didn't want to to avoid being called a b*itch.

And you don't have to pluck your chin hairs.

 

[Browncoat]

Catching up from last night, when I went to see "The Power of The Dog" instead.

Almost instaget FJ -- I did have to think briefly before I remembered that Gone With The Wind was Best Picture of 1939, and once I did that, Clark Gable was the only choice.

TS I got include Bergen, "Married: With Children", "Cheers", and Fellini.  Fellini is the go-to Italian director -- when in doubt, say Fellini!  I knew Bergen because I was looking into a trip to Norway and Scotland that had people flying into Bergen.  I decided against that trip, though.

[ams1001]

Only ran Books Within Books (but missed only one in six other categories) and my only TS was Necronomicon. FJ was an instaget.

(John) Green should have been a BMS. His brother was a BMS recently (might have been one of the college games); they really need to be more consistent.

Something about the way she answered makes me suspect Margaret is a fellow migraineur.

1 hour ago, Browncoat said:

 Fellini is the go-to Italian director -- when in doubt, say Fellini!

That's how I got it!

Edited March 3, 2022 by ams1001

[853fisher]

The movie discussion yesterday had my mind-pump primed enough to know that photo was of the director of "Stagecoach."  And his name was...?  Oh well!  On the bright side, The Ink Spots, among others, prevent me from forgetting that the swallows come back to Capistrano.

I would not have given Ujal's answer credit.  The clue was "the mnemonic Roy G Biv: just the last name."  Roy G Biv is a mnemonic for "red orange yellow green blue indigo violet," not for "Richard of York gave battle in vain," which is a different mnemonic.  Nobody uses Roy G Biv to remember "Richard of York..."  I thought the clue was clear enough.

I find "BOGOF" instead of "BOGO," while I don't doubt that citations could be offered, vaguely disconcerting.  Margaret seemed about as hesitant today as yesterday, which surprised me a little.  I wouldn't've risked "regular Virginia" but that was a fun moment.  There's a touch of melodrama about her, but I don't mind.  Somebody elsewhere said, I think good-naturedly, that she looks like a librarian with a wicked secret.

[Bliss]

20 minutes ago, 853fisher said:

 

I would not have given Ujal's answer credit. 

I would have... and it has nothing to do with him being Cdn. Wish he'd won.

[Browncoat]

I would have to move out of "regular" or "original recipe" Virginia if I'd missed the Blue Ridge Parkway clue.  Especially since it's so close to me!

Instaget FJ for me tonight.  I seem to recall hearing about that when I visited many years ago.

The only TS I got was malocclusion.  

 

[Katy M]

I said MOMA but then changed my answer to Guggenheim.  Yay me.

I got the missed clue of Indiananpolis 500.

I go the entire categories of fits and starts and wise right.  Which was good, because the rest of the first round was kind of a bust, but I did better in DJ.

[Prevailing Wind]

I liked the happy girl in the middle - she reminded me of the young Ronstadt.

I thought FJ was easy tonight. We've got a ramp/gallery in our art museum in Atlanta, too.

 

[kathyk24]

18 minutes ago, 853fisher said:

The movie discussion yesterday had my mind-pump primed enough to know that photo was of the director of "Stagecoach."  And his name was...?  Oh well!  On the bright side, The Ink Spots, among others, prevent me from forgetting that the swallows come back to Capistrano.

I would not have given Ujal's answer credit.  The clue was "the mnemonic Roy G Biv: just the last name."  Roy G Biv is a mnemonic for "red orange yellow green blue indigo violet," not for "Richard of York gave battle in vain," which is a different mnemonic.  Nobody uses Roy G Biv to remember "Richard of York..."  I thought the clue was clear enough.

I find "BOGOF" instead of "BOGO," while I don't doubt that citations could be offered, vaguely disconcerting.  Margaret seemed about as hesitant today as yesterday, which surprised me a little.  I wouldn't've risked "regular Virginia" but that was a fun moment.  There's a touch of melodrama about her, but I don't mind.  Somebody elsewhere said, I think good-naturedly, that she looks like a librarian with a wicked secret.

I agree regarding ROY G BiV I also would have asked Christine to be more specific on the Law and Order clue. I was impressed with her knowledge of opera. Does anyone else think Margaret has a southern accent?

[853fisher]

I forgot that I thought "who is Green?" definitely could have used a prompt to be more specific.  "Law & Order" is a tough one.  I can't think of an analogous situation there.  The "mothership" would have been a plausible guess, and there's not another "real" name for it, so to prompt would have seemed to add information to the clue by ruling it out, rather than simply indicating "which of the Law & Order series"?  So I think I agree with their decision there, although it would be a bummer if she did know it.

21 minutes ago, kathyk24 said:

Does anyone else think Margaret has a southern accent?

I absolutely do.  That must be one of her secrets!  ;)

Edited March 3, 2022 by 853fisher

[Driad]

King Charles II of Spain  had very inbred ancestry including two uncle-niece marriages.

[SomeTameGazelle]

28 minutes ago, 853fisher said:

"Law & Order" is a tough one.  I can't think of an analogous situation there. 

Maybe CSI and NCIS franchises. Oh, and Star Trek.

I was cheering for Ujal but Margaret did what she had to do.  I meant Guggenheim but the closest word that came into my head was Gehry and I couldn't clear the pipe in time.

[Kimmmmmm]

I like Margaret AND her look...nothing kitschy about it, IMO.

[Leeds]

1 hour ago, 853fisher said:

 

I would not have given Ujal's answer credit.  The clue was "the mnemonic Roy G Biv: just the last name."  Roy G Biv is a mnemonic for "red orange yellow green blue indigo violet," not for "Richard of York gave battle in vain," which is a different mnemonic.  Nobody uses Roy G Biv to remember "Richard of York..."  I thought the clue was clear enough.

I find "BOGOF" instead of "BOGO," while I don't doubt that citations could be offered, vaguely disconcerting.  Margaret seemed about as hesitant today as yesterday, which surprised me a little.  I wouldn't've risked "regular Virginia" but that was a fun moment.  There's a touch of melodrama about her, but I don't mind.  Somebody elsewhere said, I think good-naturedly, that she looks like a librarian with a wicked secret.

I come from the land where Richard of York gives battle in vain, and when I moved the land of Roy G Biv all I could think was "Who would ever remember that"?

Similarly, no-one talks about BOGOs in the UK, but if anyone referred to them as BOGOFs they'd be laughed out of town.  (Bog off is vulgar slang for "Get out of here".)

[Browncoat]

Many years ago, I owned a car called a Chevrolet Spectrum.  I named him Roy, as in Roy G. Biv.

[Bklyndeb]

16 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

Many years ago, I owned a car called a Chevrolet Spectrum.  I named him Roy, as in Roy G. Biv.

I have a Chevy Cruz named Penelope.   

[dgpolo]

2 hours ago, kathyk24 said:

Does anyone else think Margaret has a southern accent?

On her very first answer yesterday I thought I heard a very strong southern accent, so much so that I said woah! but then she started answering so softly and hesitantly and w/o much of an accent. I really was pulling for her to win today so I'm glad she did.

I watched an episode of Air Disasters yesterday that at one point showed a map of western Australia with Perth highlighted, I might have got it w/o that but I'm not sure.

Weirdly, I also saw the end of Brigadoon yesterday, I'm sure I would have got that one anyway, it was just weird that it was another thing I had just seen.

[Leeds]

Margaret should heed Coco Chanel's advice: "Before you leave the house, look in the mirror and take one thing off".

The glasses, the glasses chain, the super red lipstick, the big earrings, the big necklace, the little necklace (all of course competing with the microphone).  Oy.

I expect this has been asked before, but don't they get any advice from hair and makeup/wardrobe?

Edited March 3, 2022 by Leeds
Microphone not microwave!

[Bastet]

Yay - this time, all the abbreviations in the Acronyms category were actually acronyms (last time, they had an initialism or two mixed in).

Since last night was an archive game for me, this was my introduction to Margaret; she made me laugh with "regular Virginia" so I'm glad she'll be around still.  She had a nice steady, uphill trajectory throughout the game.

Opera is a weak category for me, and I was terrible in today's -- I blew the entire thing (yep, even "The Magic Flute", which I knew, but couldn't get out of my brain).  Other than that, I did well in the first round; I ran directors, wise, and fits & starts, and almost ran calendar.  With a little more time, I'd have come within one of running cities, as well, but I wound up missing two -- I had no idea whatsoever for the Iranian city, but with more time to ponder one-syllable hats that sounded like it could be a Moroccan city, I'd have figured that one out.

In DJ, I only ran medicine, but I almost ran acronyms and Emmys (and am bummed the one I missed there was Jean Smart; I like her, but am totally unfamiliar with Hacks, and didn't connect a name with the "brilliantly" hint in time). Other than that, I wasn't too hot; I missed three each in books and roads, and two in peres.

FJ was an instaget, since I have been there.

[Leeds]

POTUS on DJ?  Seriously?

[DrScottie]

1 hour ago, dgpolo said:

On her very first answer yesterday I thought I heard a very strong southern accent, so much so that I said woah! but then she started answering so softly and hesitantly and w/o much of an accent. I really was pulling for her to win today so I'm glad she did.

I'm somewhat hard of hearing so I had to turn the subtitles on as she was trailing off at the ends of various words and it made it difficult for me to figure out what she was saying part of the time. I wouldn't have minded any of them winning, though.

[30 Helens]

I thought they were a bit generous with the Julianna Margulies answer: First because I think he said “Julianne”, not Julianna, and he also mangled her last name. But whatever.

FJ was a tag team event for me and the hubby tonight. I was quick to picture the museum in my mind and described it (complete with swirling forefinger), then he provided the name, along with the fact that it was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. My comment: “Individually, we’re kind of smart; together we’re brilliant!” Yay us.

Edited March 3, 2022 by 30 Helens

[possibilities]

3 hours ago, Kimmmmmm said:

I like Margaret AND her look...nothing kitschy about it, IMO.

I agree. I don't even think she's got a lot of ornamentation. I've seen way more, many times. And she's minimalist in terms of color palette, which shows off her jewelry nicely.

Great comeback from the middle contestant today.

 

[dcalley]

16 hours ago, illdoc said:

I believe "5+" is guaranteed. Certain "tournament champions" (such as Teachers Tournament) are guaranteed. I think this year's 4th place College Tournament (the one who won the semi but didn't get to the final) is guaranteed.

The college 4th place player is getting an invite to the "second chance" tournament. The college winner will be invited to the TOC.

[HelenBaby]

8 hours ago, Leeds said:

Margaret should heed Coco Chanel's advice: "Before you leave the house, look in the mirror and take one thing off".

The glasses, the glasses chain, the super red lipstick, the big earrings, the big necklace, the little necklace (all of course competing with the microphone).  Oy.

I expect this has been asked before, but don't they get any advice from hair and makeup/wardrobe?

I kinda like her look but I told my SO that she’s a young woman trying to look like an older lady.

[MrAtoz]

12 hours ago, Leeds said:

I come from the land where Richard of York gives battle in vain, and when I moved the land of Roy G Biv all I could think was "Who would ever remember that"?

Whereas my thought was "Battle In Vain?  What the hell is he talking about?"   I was astonished when they actually gave it to him later.  "Richard of York Gave Battle In Vain?"  How are you supposed to remember that, and why would you bother when it's much easier to picture a nerdy little guy named Roy G. Biv?

[Prevailing Wind]

12 hours ago, Bklyndeb said:

I have a Chevy Cruz named Penelope.   

My mom always wanted me to name one of my Hondas "Fenry."

[ABay]

Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain is the standard mnemonic for colors of the rainbow in the UK.

I learned that from Only Connect.

Edited March 3, 2022 by ABay

[Leeds]

9 minutes ago, ABay said:

Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain is the standard mnemonic for colors of the rainbow in the UK.

I learned that from Only Connect.

Coincidentally, I'm watching Only Connect as I type.  I love this show, especially the last round, "missing vowels", no doubt because it's the one I'm best at and I quite often get to feel superior to the actual contestants!

Victoria Coren is fantastic at everything she does and would make a great Jeopardy host.  Did you know that amongst her many other achievements she's made over 2.5 million pounds playing professional poker?  I'd love to be at a dinner party with her and James.

[3 is enough]

Ujal is from Calgary, and Canadians tend to be much more familiar with British expressions than Americans, so it is plausible that he knew about Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain.

Full disclosure:  This Canadian was not familiar with that particular mnemonic.

I thought they all played well. It was enjoyable to watch.

[TaraS1]

11 hours ago, DrScottie said:

I'm somewhat hard of hearing so I had to turn the subtitles on as she was trailing off at the ends of various words and it made it difficult for me to figure out what she was saying part of the time. I wouldn't have minded any of them winning, though.

The trailing off at the end of her words drove me insane!  I wanted to yell, "Sing out, Louise!" ala Mama Rose lol

[zapper]

13 hours ago, Leeds said:

Margaret should heed Coco Chanel's advice: "Before you leave the house, look in the mirror and take one thing off".

maybe she has heeded the advice and did take something off before leaving the house. 

 

I also find her ageless and don't know if  "she’s a young woman trying to look like an older lady" or a youthful older lady. Either way is cool, she is just being herself.

Edited March 3, 2022 by zapper

[Mean Machine]

Margaret went to Ole Miss apparently.  For some reason I'm reading Facebook comments from her friends and family.  Count me in as a huge fan I guess.

[proserpina65]

16 hours ago, Katy M said:

I said MOMA but then changed my answer to Guggenheim. 

I said MOMO as well and unfortunately didn't change my answer.  I hate modern art.

14 hours ago, Leeds said:

Margaret should heed Coco Chanel's advice: "Before you leave the house, look in the mirror and take one thing off".

The glasses, the glasses chain, the super red lipstick, the big earrings, the big necklace, the little necklace (all of course competing with the microphone).  Oy.

Exactly.  I particularly found the huge glasses annoying.  And kitschy as hell.

37 minutes ago, zapper said:

maybe she has heeded the advice and did take something off before leaving the house. 

Egad, maybe you're right.

16 hours ago, Driad said:

King Charles II of Spain  had very inbred ancestry including two uncle-niece marriages.

I didn't get malocclusion.  I said Hapsburg jaw because dear god did he have the Hapsburg jaw.

13 hours ago, Bastet said:

I had no idea whatsoever for the Iranian city

I'd have run the category except for that one.  Apparently Tehran is the only Iranian city I know.  I did run Opera however, and was amused by Ken's hypercorrect pronunciation of Eurydice.

3 hours ago, MrAtoz said:

Whereas my thought was "Battle In Vain?  What the hell is he talking about?"   I was astonished when they actually gave it to him later.  "Richard of York Gave Battle In Vain?"  How are you supposed to remember that, and why would you bother when it's much easier to picture a nerdy little guy named Roy G. Biv?

Neither of those acronyms mean anything to me.  Zip.  Bupkis.  I guess my teachers weren't big on acronyms.

All I had for the $2000 clue in that category was Not Not Vincente Fox.  Because the previous president of Mexico was Not Vincente Fox to me.

 

[Clanstarling]

22 hours ago, Bklyndeb said:

One of the upsides of wearing a mask, aside from not getting or transmitting Covid, was not having to smile when I didn't want to to avoid being called a b*itch.

Yep, the masks are great for a few non-Covid reasons. This is one of them. Acne and rosacea are others. (though when I want to smile, I exaggerate so my eyes crinkle visibly). 

19 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

And you don't have to pluck your chin hairs.

Only when they bother ME. LOL.

16 hours ago, Katy M said:

I said MOMA but then changed my answer to Guggenheim.  Yay me.

I never, ever, think of Guggenheim, but somehow it popped in my head and I got my first FJ of the week.

16 hours ago, kathyk24 said:

I agree regarding ROY G BiV I also would have asked Christine to be more specific on the Law and Order clue. I was impressed with her knowledge of opera. Does anyone else think Margaret has a southern accent?

Roy G Biv has always been enough for me.  She definitely has a southern accents.

12 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

FJ was a tag team event for me and the hubby tonight. I was quick to picture the museum in my mind and described it (complete with swirling forefinger), then he provided the name, along with the fact that it was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. My comment: “Individually, we’re kind of smart; together we’re brilliant!” Yay us.

That's part of our fun at our house too - tag teaming (or sometime "come on, you know it!" which doesn't always work.

Watched two Jeopardy's in a row, so I don't really recall how any of it went specifically and I'm too lazy to look at J! Archive.  But I thought I did okay.

Edited March 3, 2022 by Clanstarling

[Leeds]

3 hours ago, ABay said:

Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain is the standard mnemonic for colors of the rainbow in the UK.

I learned that from Only Connect.

Cue The Twilight Zone theme - I had to pause my watching of Only Connect because they just had the Richard of York Gave Battle In Vain round.

[Sokarys]

18 hours ago, kathyk24 said:

I agree regarding ROY G BiV I also would have asked Christine to be more specific on the Law and Order clue. I was impressed with her knowledge of opera. Does anyone else think Margaret has a southern accent?

I thought the host isn't allowed to prompt for a BMS in the DJ round, which is why Ken remained silent. Similar to how they don't accept responses not in the form of a question in that round. Is that wrong?

[Katy M]

22 minutes ago, Sokarys said:

I thought the host isn't allowed to prompt for a BMS in the DJ round, which is why Ken remained silent. Similar to how they don't accept responses not in the form of a question in that round. Is that wrong?

I don't think that sounds right.  They usually ask for a BMS when someone just gives a last name, but sometimes just last names are acceptable and so how would the contestant know unless asked.  Contestants already know that it has to be in the form of the question as that is part of the rule.

As far as Law & Order, they're in the same franchise, but they are 2 different shows.  I feel like they shouldn't have let the next person buzz in, though, as Ken's hesitation made it obvious they were looking for something in that franchise.

[illdoc]

1 hour ago, Katy M said:

I thought the host isn't allowed to prompt for a BMS in the DJ round,

Actually, I believe it's the prompting to give the response in the form of a question that isn't allowed in DJ (and only allowed once in the first round).

[ams1001]

9 hours ago, MrAtoz said:

Whereas my thought was "Battle In Vain?  What the hell is he talking about?"   I was astonished when they actually gave it to him later.  "Richard of York Gave Battle In Vain?"  How are you supposed to remember that, and why would you bother when it's much easier to picture a nerdy little guy named Roy G. Biv?