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S08.E16: Second Guessing


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4 hours ago, Granny58 said:

However, Natalie should make the decision for herself to leave.  I mean, who the heck accepts that kind of scummy manipulation?

Sequim Syndrome?      And she probably needs some cash.   Again, Production?

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I don’t understand why people are surprised that a man would think twice about marrying a woman who called him “a fat, low class, low IQ drunk.”  However, something about that whole situation seemed fishy. Sharp Entertainment has been known to intervene when highly warranted, so, I don’t buy the part about Natalie and Tamara being unable to secure a hotel room. Not to mention, given Natalie’s emotional state, I highly doubt she would be willing to return to Mike’s home. That would probably be the last place she’d want to be. I smell a rat.

I thought it nice of Rebecca’s escorts to wear their best unwashed jeans, camo and flannel shirts to the wedding.

I would bet good money that Jovi has spent more than $1,200 on drinks and strippers in one outing. 

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59 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Natalie, or all of the foreign partners, should have a means to get home in case something bad happens. A friend or family member to borrow money for a ticket, a credit card, whatever.

There are corporate departments for that:

  • Legal.  Draw up contracts helpful to our foreign visitors.  Some "just in case" clauses and credit cards.
  • Production.  Staffing should include people with compassion and degrees in social work or psychology.  Give them authority.
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3 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

There are corporate departments for that:

  • Legal.  Draw up contracts helpful to our foreign visitors.  Some "just in case" clauses and credit cards.
  • Production.  Staffing should include people with compassion and degrees in social work or psychology.  Give them authority.

There really should be some caveats.

I've told my kids to always have an emergency cache, just in case, and to never travel alone to a foreign country where you're A) dependent upon another person and B) don't have the means to get out of there.

I feel like we judge a lot of these people by American standards. It's difficult to get a cc in Ukraine. Average monthly salary there is only a small percentage of ours. At one point it was $400 per month and Natalie was caring for herself and for her mother. 

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I tend to think that Natalie had some emergency money saved before she came to the States. I distinctly remember as she was saying goodbye to her mom that she said if it didn’t work out, she could always come back.  Of course, maybe airfares skyrocketed once the restrictions started.

Natalie’s  story gave me the most anxiety this episode.  If I had to pick a story that gave me the most eye rolls, I’m not sure there wouldn’t be a tie among everybody else except Tarik+Hazel, because I thought their wedding was the nicest.

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3 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I hope they married and she flew the coop a month later. I hope she has US connections. 

Washington is a community property state, so I also HOPE they married.  I hope Mike's property is in his name.

3 hours ago, Bugfrey Von said:

They had to go back to his weird little house in the woods?

Yeah...and they said it was three hours away!

3 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

I know it was but why couldn't Tamara use her card until Mike could reimburse her? 

  • The credit card companies told her her cards had been frozen.
  • She looked in the freezer and couldn't find even one.
2 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Like others, he acts as though the 90 days is a suggestion, not a rule.

Nobody tells BIG MIKE what to do...he don't need no steenkin' ROOOOLS from anyone!

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12 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I've told my kids to always have an emergency cache, just in case,

  • Okay...I'm old...but our mothers wanted us to be sure to have a nickel for a phone call...then a dime.
  • And remaining old...tie that coin into the corner of your embroidered handkerchief.
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3 hours ago, jennyf said:

Why did Rebecca’s son-in-law and her other flannel-shirted escort turn around and leave after they walked her down the aisle? 
 

IIRC, they were standing in the back. More informal weddings just have the couple and minister up front. My second wedding was like that (a Gene Simmons impersonator did the vows, too). Then again, Rebecca did not consider this an informal wedding, so maybe there was no rehearsal and they just didn't know where to stand. One of them started walking back and the other one followed his lead.

 

7 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Brandon's spa bathtub is out of a haunted house clown movie. GROSS and scary. Also he is so thin. 

And Brandon needs to learn that a gentleman takes the end of the tub with the plumbing fixtures so his partner doesn't have to lean on them.

 

18 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Despite his whole "aw shucks ma'am, I'm just a shy old country boy" routine, Mike's a bit of a narcissist as well. She probably didn't have to twist his arm.

As for Stephanie and Ryan, she was probably like, "Come on, baby, just film with me. It's only for 2 weeks. My biz will get attention and you'll get to stay at a nice resort...I'll pay you." 

NONE of these people go into this with concerns about how they might look. They just assume they're awesome and will be beloved. (That's why they're all gunning for spots on Pillow Talk.)

Mike reminds me of a slightly older Chris Soules from The Bachelor: Soules' entire season was all about "I'm just a simple farmer and I want a wife who will be happy with that." He picked the one finalist who actually wanted to be a farmer's wife, then dumped her a couple of months after the season finale. Why? She wanted to go back to Iowa with him, but he had fallen in love with fame and wanted to stay in Hollywood. Mike may have similarly fallen in love with the cameras, although as you pointed out, he is not coming off well.

As for Pillow Talks: I don't see any in his future. He's too dull, Natalie's English isn't good enough, and Bo is incomprehensible. A successful Pillow Talk couple needs either:

One loquacious person and one who brings the snark (David and Annie, Robert and Anny, Loren and Alexei), or

Two loquacious people who can also snark (Tim and Veronica, Molly and her BFF).

The only people from this season I can see getting Pillow Talks are Rebecca and Zied, Brandon and Julia, and maaaaybe Tarik and Hazel (Tarik's estranged brother Dean is already doing a Pillow Talk for 90 Days: The Single Life or whatever it's called). Note that this is not my judgement of them as couples, but just my own evaluation of how entertaining they'd be on a Pillow Talk.

 

7 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

I thought it nice of Rebecca’s escorts to wear their best unwashed jeans, camo and flannel shirts to the wedding.

It shows how seriously they take her fourth trip down the aisle. I've been to an outdoor wedding; you can still wear nice stuff if you want to.

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17 minutes ago, Colfrmb said:

Tarik+Hazel, because I thought their wedding was the nicest.

Probably was the most planned out, they did not wait until the 11th hour to be surprised to find out they had to get married in a matter of minutes or Hazel would have to leave the US. 

Seriously, how hard is it to find an officiant, a dress and a tux (Tarik and his Man from Glad white tux, ugh), and a handful of people as witnesses, these people act like they are putting on the wedding of the century.  Covid made wedding planning so much easier and cheaper!

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44 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

I don’t understand why people are surprised that a man would think twice about marrying a woman who called him “a fat, low class, low IQ drunk.”  However, something about that whole situation seemed fishy. Sharp Entertainment has been known to intervene when highly warranted, so, I don’t buy the part about Natalie and Tamara being unable to secure a hotel room. Not to mention, given Natalie’s emotional state, I highly doubt she would be willing to return to Mike’s home. That would probably be the last place she’d want to be. I smell a rat.

I thought it nice of Rebecca’s escorts to wear their best unwashed jeans, camo and flannel shirts to the wedding.

I would bet good money that Jovi has spent more than $1,200 on drinks and strippers in one outing. 

What about her son-in-laws dirty fingernails! He can’t even wash his hands? And p.s. Rebecca you are 50, this is your 4th wedding, no one needs to give you away. And if you had to have someone do it technically you should have asked your EX! Since he is the last one to have “owned” you, so GROSS!

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4 minutes ago, WahooLAH99 said:

What about her son-in-laws dirty fingernails! He can’t even wash his hands? And p.s. Rebecca you are 50, this is your 4th wedding, no one needs to give you away. And if you had to have someone do it technically you should have asked your EX! Since he is the last one to have “owned” you, so GROSS!

UGH I'm so glad someone else noticed this, so fucking gross! It was like he had just finished landscaping. 

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If the whole Mike/Natalie thing is staged, he is letting them make him into a complete dick.  Jovi and Brandon are both jerks, but I can’t stand listening to the constant whining from Yara and Julia.  Didn’t they know who they were getting?  If they didn’t, they shouldn’t have traveled across the world to marry them within 90 days.  Also Hazel STFU about a girlfriend.  No sympathy for any of them.

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52 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said:

UGH I'm so glad someone else noticed this, so fucking gross! It was like he had just finished landscaping. 

To be fair, he may be a mechanic or have another job where his hands and nails get stained and look dirty when they're not.  He could also just be a dirtball.  

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Why did Hazel have to come out to her parents?  It's not like she was getting involved in a relationship with another woman right then and there but now they have tuned in to watch her marry a beard, I mean Tarik.

Can you imagine bringing someone here from another country only to have that person that their goal is to add a same sex person to the marriage and hands off because of their jealousy issue so you will not be included in the fun...to me that would mean an open marriage so why couldn't Tarik find his own side piece?  What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

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21 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Why did Hazel have to come out to her parents?  It's not like she was getting involved in a relationship with another woman right then and there but now they have tuned in to watch her marry a beard, I mean Tarik.

Can you imagine bringing someone here from another country only to have that person that their goal is to add a same sex person to the marriage and hands off because of their jealousy issue so you will not be included in the fun...to me that would mean an open marriage so why couldn't Tarik find his own side piece?  What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

Why would she feel the need to tell her parents at all?  I mean, you are living across the country, you know you will disappoint them/not get their blessing, and you are marrying a man.

1 hour ago, WahooLAH99 said:

And p.s. Rebecca you are 50, this is your 4th wedding, no one needs to give you away.

My two sons stood with me but there was no aisle to walk down, and no, no one was going to give me away.  I am not offended by that part of a wedding but I was 52, lol.

It was SO frustrating to listen to Natalie yammer on and on and ON:  "Michael!  You must make a decision!  Michael, I will be illegal!"  Girl, he is TELLING YOU HE DOES NOT WANT TO MARRY YOU.  Get out  - show some respect for yourself and for God's sake take off the Daisy Dukes.

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35 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Why did Hazel have to come out to her parents?  It's not like she was getting involved in a relationship with another woman right then and there but now they have tuned in to watch her marry a beard, I mean Tarik.

I imagine it was because she knew that would be her storyline and she wanted them to hear it from her before it was on TV.

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Lol at Natalie treating the legal counsel as a therapy session. Is she dressed in that skin tight midriff top to entice Mike and remind him of her irresistible sexuality? Were her boobs always that big? Mike looks like he can barely stay awake, he’s so bored by Natalie and her boring problems like expired visas, a deadly new virus and travel restrictions. Geez, why does she keep asking him about their plans like she has 24 hours to figure out her life? Annoying. 

 

Rebecca looked god awful in that dress. She kept touching her midsection probably because her lungs hurt from being squeezed into that dress. I’ve never seen anyone so closely resemble 50 lbs of potatoes in a 5 lb bag. Her hair and makeup looked equally tortured. I got second hand embarrassment hearing that a 50-something year old grandma wanted to feel like a princess on her FOURTH walk down the aisle. 

 

Hazel and Tarik looked lovely and it was a cute little ceremony. Tarik has some great friends, which must say something about him, right? 

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Both Brandon/Julia and Tarik/Hazel are in VA. I'm assuming the reason Brandon/Julia had an officiant and Tarik/Hazel didn't was due to timing, i.e. Brandon/Julia got married when the pandemic was just kicking off.

I thought Angela (Tarik's friend) said something about "the power vested in me as the officiant." Shouldn't she have mentioned "the state of Virginia" or something similar? So another possibility is that they may have gotten married at the courthouse, but the wedding we saw was staged.

Whatever. Hazel looked gorgeous, Tarik was all right, and for a kid on the ASD spectrum, Auri held up pretty well, I think. And his big brother DROVE FROM SALT LAKE CITY?? Awesome.

I liked that Brandon/Julia said their vows in each other's languages. I agree with whoever upthread said that he could have put in a little more effort. Also, I was surprised, after the whole wedding shop scene, that Julia ended up going with a short dress and sneakers. They were cute though. Throughout this entire season they were the only ones who really seemed to be into each other. If they brought them back for Happily Ever After I'd be interested in seeing where they live and what kind of work Julia ends up doing. Will she go back to go-go dancing?

I'm glad Zied got to have something resembling a real wedding. He looked good. It made Rebecca, her trashy relatives, and that stupid pumpkin coach more tolerable. (I was never that girl who dreamed of having a fairytale wedding. In the highly unlikely event that I get married at my advanced age, I'll probably do something similar to what Miranda (SATC) did when she married Steve: Velvet dress, community garden, handful of people.)

I agree with everything said about Mike/Natalie, esp. the part about production shenanigans.

Jovi/Yara: I've got nothing except, again, sympathy for their kid.

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32 minutes ago, alotmorestupider said:

Lol at Natalie treating the legal counsel as a therapy session.

I chuckled when Natalie said "He cancel wedding two hours before ceremony!" or whatever and the lawyer's response was basically "That's nice. Did you have any other legal questions?"

 

21 minutes ago, ExMathMajor said:

I thought Angela (Tarik's friend) said something about "the power vested in me as the officiant." Shouldn't she have mentioned "the state of Virginia" or something similar? So another possibility is that they may have gotten married at the courthouse, but the wedding we saw was staged.

Angela may have one of those quickie online ordinations from Universal Life Church or whoever that allows you to marry people. If she'd never done it before, she might not know how to phrase everything. IIRC, when Michael and Julianna were married last season, their officiant was Michael's ex-wife (who had also befriended Julianna), and she had a ULC ordination as well.

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I called a nice hotel last week and used my credit card to reserve a room as a treat for a friend who was driving across the country.  Didn't seem to be a problem.

 

That's all I have to contribute.  Still hate-watching.

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Rebecca and Zied: The Cinderella coach was a bit much for a 4th wedding. But, she seemed happy. The dress wasn't great. Since she had all that time to plan the wedding, if the dress didn't fit right, she could have gone to a shop to find an alternate that did fit her. Granted, I don't know if the shops in that area were open in mid-April. Her guests looked like they were attending a different function. I wonder if Zied will want a Muslim ceremony or if the court type wedding will do.

Brandon and Julia: At least Betty gets her Mother's Day weekend back! Her dress was cute and the sneakers made it modern. Brandon did try with the Russian language but he still looked and felt like he was 16 and doesn't have a clue as to what marriage is really like. It's tough, hard work and not always days of happiness. You have a life partner now. His parents were nice enough to take footage on the phone so Julia's parents could see the ceremony. Maybe now that Betty has a 'daughter' she can relax a bit. The bathtub was grimy. It's not like a fancy jacuzzi type tub where two can fit comfortably. The only way 2 people can fit in my tub is if they are both small kids. Didn't find that scene to be romantic. Julia, you know what Brandon is and that he has yet to disattach from his parents. Good luck with farm life.

Jovi and Yara: The Vegas fun continues, for him. Why does Mom need to help with ring shopping? Yara, a diamond ring is nice for special occasions. Wedding rings have to go through many life crap stuff - dishes, working with dirt, etc. Something like a nice ring is great for an anniversary, but a wedding ring should be practical. With the baby, it might be a challenge to maintain it. Jovi didn't seem to care. Maybe it was 'Vegas' to waltz in to the tux shop with a beer in hand, but that seems to be Jovi's real life. Yara knows what she is getting in to. I'd probably have confronted Jovi about that kind of drinking - all day type - and then maybe walked. The real day to day Jovi didn't surface on his trips with her? Maybe he will grow up and change a bit and become more serious. Or maybe not. I guess Yara also doesn't know about the Elvis officiant.

Tarik and Hazel: Hazel looked lovely as a bride. Tarik did pull out a lot of the stops for her - getting her hair and makeup done, the huge limo, being treated like a princess. Nice that her family did show up and some of his. His friends have also included her. She should consider herself lucky. And maybe put off finding a girlfriend right now.

Mike and Natalie: If all this is real, Yikes. Not cool to string someone along til the last couple of days before the visa expires, plus a pandemic, and borders closed everywhere. The lawyer could have told Natalie that she'd need to check with the Consulate to see if there is any sort of extension because of Covid and her getting a flight to Europe and a way to get home. Mike does not come across all that well, and he did seem like one of the nicer guys on the show. Without a lot of counselling, I don't see this working, and even then, both of them are too different. He also does reflect his workplace and I'm not sure I'd like to be shown on 'reality' TV coming across the way he did. Give him the ring back and move on, Natalie. Maybe marriage isn't for you.

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I believe that Rebecca was upset about the wedding timing because it put the kibosh on her big fairytale wedding plans, not because she wanted more time to figure out if she wanted to marry Zied.  She is just plain delusional trying to act like a 20 year old bride, and squeezing herself into a dress that's 10 sizes too small.  Why would she think that looked good?  Oh right, she thinks pigtails and Indiana Jones hats are stylin so why wouldn't a dress that restricts your breathing?  That thing was so tight, she was almost bent over backward standing in it lol.

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1 hour ago, ExMathMajor said:

I was surprised, after the whole wedding shop scene, that Julia ended up going with a short dress and sneakers.

I think the wedding shop scene was legit. She picked out a dress and scheduled a pickup date. However, the wedding date was moved up, so the dress she originally chose wasn't ready yet. She also mentioned going shopping with Betty for an alternative dress and shoes, which is what I imagine she ended up wearing. I wouldn't be surprised if the dress she chose at the bridal shop is what she wears at her wedding in Russia.

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9 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Mikes favorite answers:

Don’t forget, “That’s a lot to process”

Is next week’s finale two hours long? I can’t believe it will take that long to tie up the loose ends of Andrew and Amira’s non-story, Jovi and Yara’s wedding and whether or not Mike and Natalie get married. I predict they will marry because Natalie will announce she’s pregnant which is all she ever wanted out of Mike anyway.

and Rebecca’s corset over her gown reminded me of a straight jacket 

oops, I forgot about Stephanie and Ryan/Harris. 

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3 minutes ago, invisiblegirl12 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the dress she chose at the bridal shop is what she wears at her wedding in Russia

Which will be underwritten next season by TLC as will Yara’s Ukrainian wedding with her family in attendance, too (just a guess on my part) 

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9 minutes ago, Chloe Dog said:

I believe that Rebecca was upset about the wedding timing because it put the kibosh on her big fairytale wedding plans, not because she wanted more time to figure out if she wanted to marry Zied.  ...

I haven't been watching consistently, but wasn't Rebecca's big complaint that Zied insisted on living apart during Ramadan while they were unmarried?  I just find her attitude incredibly stupid and self-absorbed.  She's marrying a Muslim man, possibly not even her first Muslim partner--has she bothered to learn anything??

--From sunup to sundown, you don't taste a bite of food, you don't take a sip of water.  Smokers white-knuckle it and don't puff.  No gum.  That should be common knowledge for anyone in Rebecca's position.

--Extra-marital affairs aren't approved at any time, but if you're in one, you're expected to abstain completely during Ramadan.  That took me five seconds to Google.

What's wrong with this sad bish?  She's so cringingly desperate--why doesn't she at least try?

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8 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Imo he kept asking for the ring back because he's not in love with her and didn't want to marry her... Which he knew before she landed. 

I thought it was very telling that when Mike finally gave in to Natalie’s begging and gave her back the ring, technically he didn’t propose marriage, he just asked if she wanted to be his “fiancée” again.   

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Kudos to whatever company made the corset that Rebecca wore over her dress. It held in and up a lot!

Rebecca and her fairytale fantasy. I hate to be awful but the corset, her makeup and hair. Was her fairy godmother on crack when she waved her magic wand?

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5 hours ago, Back Atcha said:
  • Okay...I'm old...but our mothers wanted us to be sure to have a nickel for a phone call...then a dime.
  • And remaining old...tie that coin into the corner of your embroidered handkerchief.

My nickels (and later dimes) were inserted in my loafers instead of pennies 

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2 hours ago, ExMathMajor said:

I thought Angela (Tarik's friend) said something about "the power vested in me as the officiant." Shouldn't she have mentioned "the state of Virginia" or something similar? So another possibility is that they may have gotten married at the courthouse, but the wedding we saw was staged.

I thought she did mention something about Virginia because I had forgotten where Tarik lives and it reminded me.  

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8 hours ago, watchingtvaddict said:

One more question. Who is going to marry Natalie and Mike? Have they already applied for the marriage license? Are they going to use the same marriage license they received for the cancelled wedding?

I thought Tamara was going to perform the ceremony. And their marriage license didn’t have to be used on a specific date. I looked it up for Washington and a marriage license is good for 60 days following a three day waiting period following issuance. 

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2 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I thought Tamara was going to perform the ceremony. And their marriage license didn’t have to be used on a specific date. I looked it up for Washington and a marriage license is good for 60 days following a three day waiting period following issuance. 

That's what I thought, too. When she called and canceled she did say 'Tamara'. 

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32 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

That's what I thought, too. When she called and canceled she did say 'Tamara'. 

It was someone named ‘Teresa’ she cancelled for officiating. I just went back to see because I was all sorts of confused, too.

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6 hours ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

As for Pillow Talks: I don't see any in his future. He's too dull, Natalie's English isn't good enough, and Bo is incomprehensible. A successful Pillow Talk couple needs either:

One loquacious person and one who brings the snark (David and Annie, Robert and Anny, Loren and Alexei), or

Two loquacious people who can also snark (Tim and Veronica, Molly and her BFF).

The only people from this season I can see getting Pillow Talks are Rebecca and Zied, Brandon and Julia, and maaaaybe Tarik and Hazel (Tarik's estranged brother Dean is already doing a Pillow Talk for 90 Days: The Single Life or whatever it's called). Note that this is not my judgement of them as couples, but just my own evaluation of how entertaining they'd be on a Pillow Talk.

Moreover, Natalie has no sense of humor, and Mike is irredeemable.  Uncle Beau would provide the freakshow or comic relief, but Natalie banned him from the farm.

Yara with Non Jovi would be good, but she may be too critical, and he would be MIA or passed out.  The Pillow Talkers must be contractually obligated to fawn over the cast, including Baby Girl Lisa and Angela.  But, Loren is guarding her niche as the happy young parents with a vengeance. 

Stephanie could totally usurp Pillow Talk if she started with Ryan, replaced him with Harris, and has her psychic and cat on standby.  She could hula-hoop during the forced intermissions.  Hazel and Tarek would need their unicorn submissive, and they'd still be unbelievable and boring.

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23 minutes ago, Cancun said:

It was someone named ‘Teresa’ she cancelled for officiating. I just went back to see because I was all sorts of confused, too.

Ah! Thank you. All these people are starting to bleed together. 

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9 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

They all go to the same hairstylist.

I live in a place where mullets are still considered the epitome of high fashion hair, and even people here would back away from those feathered 'dos. 

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6 hours ago, ExMathMajor said:

I thought Angela (Tarik's friend) said something about "the power vested in me as the officiant." Shouldn't she have mentioned "the state of Virginia" or something similar? So another possibility is that they may have gotten married at the courthouse, but the wedding we saw was staged.

@magemaud is correct. Angela said, "the power vested in me as an officiant by the state of Virginia."  I agree with the poster who said the fact that Tarek has such good friends, says a lot about him.  I wish them all the best and hope the "Hazel wants a girlfriend" was just for storyline purposes.  

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14 hours ago, mittsigirl said:

Brandon is only 27 and has no kids but already has a dad bod!

I can't take my eyes off the sleeve on his polo shirts--I think they're women's shirts.  I'm a girl but I buy men's polo shirts because the sleeves are longer than they are on women's polos.  The ones he has are almost cap sleeves.

9 hours ago, maxmama said:

Brandon put on his best bib and tucker and still looked 16 years old.  His parents, to their credit, made sure to man the cameras so her parents could watch.  

But why couldn't they just set them up with the other cameras that were set up, and, you know, actually be present at the ceremony instead of serving as videographers?

9 hours ago, maxmama said:

I thought reciting the vows in each other’s language was nice; too bad Brandon put almost no thought into it.  I feel depressed every time I watch this show.

I don't know why Julia wanted the vows written on that corplast board--maybe for a keepsake?  But Brandon didn't finish his and was reading them off his phone.  Maybe they'll nail his phone to the wall next to the board with her vows.

 

12 hours ago, mamadrama said:

That said, [Julia] looked adorable on her wedding day. I loved the short, fluency dress and tennis shoes. Every bride should have their own style.

I'm assuming Rebecca is the exception that makes the rule. 

 

12 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Hazel looked beautiful

I thought she looked awful, maybe because she generally doesn't wear makeup and had a ton of it on.  I barely recognized her.

 

12 hours ago, mamadrama said:

For people saying she could've slept in the Seattle airport? No, she couldn't. We were there a day before she was meant to fly out and they were only letting you through the front door if your departure time was within 5 hours or less. This was WA in mud Aril-they were the epicenter at the time.

What I didn't understand was why they were downtown.  They had to drive 10 miles past the airport to get downtown, and hotels downtown are bound to be more expensive than between Sequim and the airport, not to mention less convenient for catching a flight.

 

8 hours ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

It shows how seriously they take her fourth trip down the aisle. I've been to an outdoor wedding; you can still wear nice stuff if you want to.

I think it's just so weird when people go to a wedding where the bride is in a formal wedding dress and the groom is in a tuxedo, and they wear whatever.  Rebecca's wedding had a lot of that, as did Tarik's--some guy was wearing a white t-shirt.  Come on, people.  The groom is in a tuxedo!  At least rise to the level of a golf course and wear a shirt with a collar.

 

4 hours ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

Angela may have one of those quickie online ordinations from Universal Life Church or whoever that allows you to marry people.

I got curious and looked it up.  Virginia has a law that authorizes civilians (non-ministers) to officiate at weddings if they get an order (permission) from a judge.  There's a similar law for ministers to be able to officiate, and I saw a couple of websites that complained that some jurisdictions in Virginia are buttheads about allowing online ministers.  I have no idea what goes on on the ground there, but I can see a judge allowing Angela to officiate this one time as a non-minister, for her friends, especially during Covid.  The judge might even think it's preferable to acknowledging an online minister, if there really are issues with that.

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21 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

What I didn't understand was why they were downtown.  They had to drive 10 miles past the airport to get downtown, and hotels downtown are bound to be more expensive than between Sequim and the airport, not to mention less convenient for catching a flight.

Now THAT'S the real question. Lots of Seattle area hotels shut down during that tine, but you know that there had to be at least one near the airport that would've been closer and cheaper. 

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57 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

What I didn't understand was why they were downtown.  They had to drive 10 miles past the airport to get downtown, and hotels downtown are bound to be more expensive than between Sequim and the airport, not to mention less convenient for catching a flight.

It depends which route they chose. If they took the ferry crossing, they would need to drive south through Seattle to get to SeaTac.  If they took the longer drive with a bridge crossing, they would drive through Tacoma and north to the airport.

 Of course, either way, an airport hotel would make much more sense. But I have given up trying to apply logic to these episodes.

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19 minutes ago, kirklandia said:

It depends which route they chose. If they took the ferry crossing, they would need to drive south through Seattle to get to SeaTac.  If they took the longer drive with a bridge crossing, they would drive through Tacoma and north to the airport.

 Of course, either way, an airport hotel would make much more sense. But I have given up trying to apply logic to these episodes.

I was assuming they were going through Tacoma because one of them said something about driving 3 hours to get back, or something like that.  Wasn't Natalie's alleged flight at 7:00 a.m. or something?  That's the sort of thing airport areas hotels are made for. 

That whole thing seems very fishy to me.

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