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S15.E08: The Calm Before the Storm

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Covid will likely be discussed on the show.  That does not open the door to debating covid protocols and the like.  Let's keep it about the glorious ladies of RHOC and the people sucked into their orbits. 

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8 minutes ago, JD5166 said:

One month in, and BW is the soberest sober person to ever sober. She’s exhausting....and having a “mother” who is a “doctor” she knows all the buzzwords for the shrink. I know I am supposed to feel moved and sorry for her but I just don’t care. Any attention is good attention, she cannot get off my tv fast enough. 

Are Debutante Balls still a thing? I can’t. Time for bed.......

As if we don’t have enough of Brownstone, now she’s in most of the thinking heads.  I’m with you.

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Shannon with her “I get my meat everyday!!!”  Yeah, I doubt it, at least not with John. Can you imagine being quarantined with her? She loses her damn mind over everything. And her going on about not being in a rush to get married, um, I think John is right there with ya, girl. 
Then when she’s talking to Kelly, she says well, I don’t want to make is about me and as soon as she gets off the phone Kelly is like, everything IS about you! She couldn’t get off the phone fast enough. 

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I’m done with Brawny.  Imagine being locked up with her. Imagine being locked up with any of these high strung, self absorbed loonies.

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24 minutes ago, whydoievencare said:

Elizabeth needs to STFU [...] I don't like how she practically laughs every single time she says anything - it's weird. 

This is what has been bothering me about her too, but I couldn’t put my finger on it!  I can’t stand the laugh at the end of every sentiment.  Reminds me of Carole on RHNYC.  I think it’s a subtle way of conveying that they’re above the fray, but, by virtue of being on this show, they are so not above the fray.  

Elizabeth’s apparently a giant liar too.  Who at Bravo is responsible for this casting?  The same person who casted Danielle, the one who was cut after filming all of season nine?  Wouldn’t surprise me.  

And Elizabeth was poor growing up!  She’s getting divorced!  And she used to fly her friends around in private jets!!!!  Who knew?!?

14 minutes ago, JD5166 said:

One month in, and BW is the soberest sober person to ever sober. She’s exhausting....and having a “mother” who is a “doctor” she knows all the buzzwords for the shrink. I know I am supposed to feel moved and sorry for her but I just don’t care. Any attention is good attention, she cannot get off my tv fast enough. 

Braunwyn is such a horrid woman.  When speaking to that therapist, she was way too familiar with her own story.  I don’t doubt that it’s true, but it sounds very self-centered to have every single detail of her life—dates, places and times—down pat.  I think Braunwyn spends a lot more time thinking about Braunwyn than she does thinking about anything or anyone else.  That’s why each season she highlights one kid—last season it was Rowan, this season it’s Jacob—because it seems almost like she just realized they’re there and they can serve her purpose of a storyline.  She probably spent de minimus time raising them before that. 

I still remember Kelly going in on Vicki for being uneducated at the season 13 reunion, which I thought was in poor taste, because so many people are uneducated.  Go in on Vicki for...being Vicki, no?  So I thought it was funny when Kelly told Elizabeth that the other girls were “weary” or her, instead of “wary.”  Like, does Elizabeth’s presence make the ladies want to fall asleep?  I thought that was Emily’s job. 

It’s so interesting that Kelly says Shannon gets drunk and goes off on people (which is, of course, true), but Kelly is the freaking queen of that, so, pot calling kettle.  

Sophie, despite who her mom is, is one of the best adult children to come out of this franchise.  There is a sweetness to her.  In the past, the teenaged girls on this show were a bunch of sluts, plus the Debbie Downer who was Brianna.  I like the twins too, just because they’re so pretty and they act their age, not like a bunch of 35 year olds who pretend they know everything, like some of the older kids on other franchises.  I can’t believe how skinny Shannon used to be 20 years ago!  I shiver to imagine what kind of starving, raging bitch Shannon was on her wedding day.  

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There’s no there there with this show.  I must have been completely high last week when I speculated that the cast hanging around the pool in Palm Springs was “a watershed moment.”  This show is just flat and boring.  

When things like Kelly saying “toe-let” and me wondering what Gina’s maiden name is, because “Kerschenheiter” doesn’t sound Italian to me, and I’m noticing how much Gina’s accent varies depending on who she is speaking to, there is a problem with the show.  

I think it’s starting to get super creepy how Braunwyn tries to coerce people into going to AA meetings with her.  I know all about open meetings—I know it’s allowed.  I also know that it’s supposed to be a program of attraction, not promotion, and ain’t nothing attractive about Braunwyn hassling everyone in sight to join her.  It’s manipulative.  

I never thought I would drop a Housewives franchise—I prided myself on watching each and every one—but I dropped Atlanta, and I feel great about it.  This one may very well be next.  Nothing about it moves me anymore.  

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32 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

Elizabeth - I don’t like talking about money or my divorce because I’m getting divorced from someone who has a lot of money and therefore I have a lot of money but not as much money as I used to because I’m divorcing someone who has a phenomenal amount of money but now I’m getting divorced.  It will affect how much money I have but not all that much because I’m getting a lot of money from the person I’m divorcing who has a lot of money.

Seriously. If you can afford to spend $2 million just in legal fees, then I don't want to hear you complain about money.  Elizabeth acknowledged in a previous ep that she already has more than enough money to maintain a lifestyle that includes spending $30k a month just on clothes through the rest of her days, so hearing her whine about having to come up with half a million in cash to pay for the trial made my eye twitch.  Why are you even going to trial over this?  After a certain point the difference between X amount of wealth and Y amount of wealth is negligible.  Just walk away and save yourself the stress and legal fees.  You'll be fine.

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And to think all 8 episodes were just from the 1st 5 weeks of filming.

Sophie seems sweet, with a hint of sarcasm.  I still recall her in season 9 rolling her eyes at her mother as Shannon was listing all the remedies and pills she was packing.

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12 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

Come to Long Island.  One on every block.

I'm in Maine, I may be out of luck

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Elizabeth is so annoying. We get it you are getting money in your divorce. Move on pls.

I don’t know how but Gina is my fave character this season. She cracks me up in her talking heads and there’s just something about her I enjoy this season.

Braunwyn just shut up pls you are so annoying and make everything about yourself. Her and her family can go away. It’s always about her drinking ugh.

 

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17 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

 

When things like Kelly saying “toe-let” and me wondering what Gina’s maiden name is, because “Kerschenheiter” doesn’t sound Italian to me, and I’m noticing how much Gina’s accent varies depending on who she is speaking to, there is a problem with the show.  

 

HaHa!  Yes.  I think this is the ultimate sign that the show is boring.

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no more long walks just talking, no more gym sessions, no more talking to relatives on the phone, no more therapist visits. Need rich and clueless house and lifestyle porn, asap.

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1 hour ago, Silver Bells said:

Come to Long Island.  One on every block.

Almost the same here, in my part of New Jersey - there is at least one in every town.  I'm sooo grateful, because they are all wonderful!!  

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Shannon is just so insufferable this season. I enjoyed her in the past but this season NOPE!

Brauwyn and her beard Sean need to be off tv. Disfunction junction to the max and it appears they are trying to angle for spin off about their circus family. Please take your 16 kids and kook of a mom off of my tv screen.

Kelly is still just Kelly, dumb as a box of hair but occasionally is astute about the other cast members.

Gina is really growing on me, her TH's are really funny and on point.

Emily is still just blah, her hubby seems to have faded to off screen this year for the most part.

Still can't put my finger on what Elizabeth is all about and why she is even on this show.

 

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Elizabeth reminds me of the Far Side “What People Say to Dogs/What Dogs Hear” cartoon, except instead of hearing “Blah blah blah Ginger blah blah Ginger blah...” she says “Divorce divorce divorce Me Me Me divorce divorce Me Me Divorce...”

I loved Gina at the market, except Mars Capone made me cringe a little 🤣

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Braunwyn was overly dramatic in the kitchen while talking to her husband and daughter. I see now why some people are saying she might be aiming for her own spin-off. Even Sean had to give her the side eye on that. Her poor daughter looked so stressed out. When isn't Braunwyn not ever talking about herself, especially to her family (Sean) lol.

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Do we know why Elizabeth and her husband have been divorcing for 6 long years? Arguing over the $ amount of settlement? 
Elizabeth seems equal parts cocky about the $s she ‘will’ gain in her divorce settlement and what looks like panic she won’t get much (all the drama/tears/laughs/contradictions). Or does she really regret leaving him? 

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How was Braunwyn able to pour that tequila down the drain?  I thought the sight of or presence of a tequila bottle was “triggering.”  The smell would have been overwhelming.  🤮

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9 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I think it’s starting to get super creepy how Braunwyn tries to coerce people into going to AA meetings with her.  I know all about open meetings—I know it’s allowed.  I also know that it’s supposed to be a program of attraction, not promotion, and ain’t nothing attractive about Braunwyn hassling everyone in sight to join her.  It’s ma

I said that before to no avail.  I think it is manipulative of her.  She wants them to seem important that she asked.  Like a “ you are my favorite buddy” move.

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14 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

I said that before to no avail.  I think it is manipulative of her.  She wants them to seem important that she asked.  Like a “ you are my favorite buddy” move.

I think you nailed it.  Probably also wants to look popular to the AA folks (who could care less).  

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

Elizabeth wants to buy a Ferrari and donate it to charity? Just give them the fucking cash! you stupid twat!

The only thing I could think of is that it would be a charity auction or raffle. Like our church used to do with a donated Ford Escort every year at the festival 🤣

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11 hours ago, JD5166 said:

Are Debutante Balls still a thing?

I have a friend who is now 61 and she was a deb, (still has and fits in the dress she wore!), and it is a foreign to me as the Greek language.  I would have expected Shannon to want to have her daughters be debutants if they were on the east coast or in a southern state but I just do not think of LA being the place for that tradition.

Shannon's wedding dress could be altered to be a debutant dress, just add opera length pearls and over the elbow length gloves and there you have it!  How funny Shannon talks about her wedding dress, gets her daughter to put it on (omg, stand up straight girl) and her boyfriend comes in, Shannon's past marriage plays front and center and this guy is not scared, kudooz to him.

Shannon is crying over the lack of paper towel, just wait until she is on lockdown and the impending death count, that is something to cry about. Also, I thought she would be one for reuseable towels so she would not part of killing trees.

Brawny and her screaming "LISTEN TO ME," shows the tip of her iceberg.  Once again we have an on camera therapy session, why does the number of her children keep changing, tonight she has 9, is that the most recent count?  I do not need to see her son's personal journey to drag or trans, it is hard enough to do in private which makes me wonder how sincere is his exploration. 

Why would she make her husband stop giving their anxiety ridden daughter a glimmer of hope about Covid, that just seemed cruel. Watching them pour expensive tequilla down the drain instead of giving it to a neighbor or Shannon, wow, that was like throwing money down the drain. 

Everyone caught the Shotski on the bar behind Brawny and her husband, right? 

Gina knows her house is a bit tight for 6 kids, if she can keep that organized, keep up with school work and laundry she is my hero.  I am not hating her lately but I am hating her extensions.

 

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10 hours ago, Wicked said:

I'm in Maine, I may be out of luck

But you have lobster .. yum.   I told the husband, when this Covid is finished, we have to take a ride to Maine and eat lobster the whole week.

 

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48 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

 I don't know what kind of school he goes to, or how much times have changed, or if it being CA makes that much of a difference, but that kid would have been eaten alive at my high school once that footage hit the air.

My kids are a few years out of high school (in Michigan) but stuff like that was celebrated and those were the "cool" kids.  I think the school was trying to over-compensate to avoid bullying, but flying your freak flag was encouraged. 

Braunwyn is a terrible mother but she really has/had a terrible role-model.  I'm starting to appreciate all that her husband does to keep everyone together, because as weird as he can be, he seems to be the more normal, level-headed parent. 

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3 minutes ago, suzeecat said:

Braunwyn is a terrible mother but she really has/had a terrible role-model.  I'm starting to appreciate all that her husband does to keep everyone together, because as weird as he can be, he seems to be the more normal, level-headed parent. 

I usually laugh (as in roll my eyes and groan) at him and his necklaces, but man did I feel bad for him when she snapped at him at the end there.  

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11 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

Come to Long Island.  One on every block.

You’re from Long Island? Now I can imagine you telling all those great stories in my favorite accent. God I love long islanders. 

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41 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

But you have lobster .. yum.   I told the husband, when this Covid is finished, we have to take a ride to Maine and eat lobster the whole week.

 

For my son's most recent birthday (31, oy how did that happen?) I sent him a lobster roll kit from a company in Maine, it is the next best thing to being there!

 

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2 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

You’re from Long Island? Now I can imagine you telling all those great stories in my favorite accent. God I love long islanders. 

Yes I am.  A few towns away from Gina.  I even tawk like her.  I’m happy you didn’t jump ship .. yet.  After last night, I’m close.

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  1. As always, episodes happen in episode time. If you want to discuss anything that occurred after the time during which the episode was filmed, take it to the appropriate thread.  This is not it. 
  2. Covid will likely again be discussed.  Limit your discussion to what is stated on the show.  Do not go further down a path of what is and is not effective, etc. 
  3. As always, no politics. 

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