S12.E19: 21st Century Sonja

[Hangin Out]

7 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

That’s the plant which she probably isn’t qualified to work in, the store location is on the Upper Eastside.

No Queens store where she parks her car?

[biakbiak]

2 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

No Queens store where she parks her car?

She parked her car at his house which was in Queens. Between that and the free dry cleaning, her breakup will probably increase her monthly expenses by several hundred dollars.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Dang. I keep forgetting that Ramona is more than just that sensual body.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I love how much screen time they gave the broccoli and rice cakes, because that means the camera person thought it was as bizarre as we did. Even more bizarre to me was both on the same plate, covered with aluminum foil. How does that happen?

[nokat]

21 hours ago, AryasMum said:

I just love pitties. My favorite.

I became afraid of them after getting attacked while walking down a sidewalk. Then I walked out of a store and a man had a pit on a leash. I asked if he was friendly and I got the love slobber and face licking that made me unafraid.

I feel like I need to clarify that it was the dog and not the man who slobbered on me.

 

Edited August 23, 2020 by nokat

[AryasMum]

Just now, nokat said:

I became afraid of them after getting attacked while walking down a sidewalk. Then I walked out of a store and a man had a pit on a leash. I asked if he was friendly and I got the love slobber and face licking that made me unafraid.
 

In the 40s they were known as family dogs. Petey from Our Gang was a pit bull. Most are very loving and eager to please, which is how their owners take advantage of them in fighting pits.  They have the biggest smiles of any dog, IMO. 

[nokat]

8 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I love how much screen time they gave the broccoli and rice cakes, because that means the camera person thought it was as bizarre as we did. Even more bizarre to me was both on the same plate, covered with aluminum foil. How does that happen?

So those were rice cakes. There was a stack of them. I'm usually only half paying attention but I assume they were wearing tinfoil hats.
 

[hoodooznoodooz]

No one wants to talk about the injury that might hinder Dorinda’s stabby finger? Maybe she injured the nerve during one of her enraged stabby sessions.

Edited August 23, 2020 by hoodooznoodooz

[nokat]

59 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Dang. I keep forgetting that Ramona is more than just that sensual body.

She does keep telling us and every man who is near her.
 

[hoodooznoodooz]

I liked Leah joking that Ramona didn’t include her on the group text because she was afraid Leah would assume she sent it in response to Leah’s rage.

[hoodooznoodooz]

What’s with these women. Whenever they cross paths with someone who happens to be working, they manipulate that person into working for them.

Ramona turns anyone who works at a hotel into her personal assistant/butler.

Lu asks the doggy groomer for a massage.

Lu asks the hairstylist backstage at a runway show to freshen up her hair.

Ramona turns the bartender at Century 21 into her personal mixologist.

”Someone has paid this person to be here. How can I take advantage of that?”

[ladle]

My six year old was watching this episode with me and declared, "Ramona has a healthy self-esteem."  So remote schooling is going swimmingly.  

[Hangin Out]

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

What’s with these women. Whenever they cross paths with someone who happens to be working, they manipulate that person into working for them.

Ramona turns anyone who works at a hotel into her personal assistant/butler.

Lu asks the doggy groomer for a massage.

Lu asks the hairstylist backstage at a runway show to freshen up her hair.

Ramona turns the bartender at Century 21 into her personal mixologist.

”Someone has paid this person to be here. How can I take advantage of that?”

I’m wondering how they raised kids.  I’m sure they had at least five people to do everything.

[Kiki777]

Ramona could have used a plateful of Bunny’s broccoli.  Then she would have had normal healthy poops instead of weird poop pebbles just falling out of her.

[Chicklet]

Now I just imagine a rabbit with long blonde hair and a twitchy nose leaving a little trail behind her.

[tranquilidade]

I think we can all agree that none of these women are in any position of experience or state of mind to help anyone else with a mental health issue.  Ramona trying to save Dorinda is the blind leading the blind.  

 

I also don't believe Ramona went to a psychiatrist for help, just for camera time.  She probably remembered how Bethany did this and decided to do it too.

[bravofan27]

I feel like Dorinda's pants were given to her by Jon whose customer never picked them up from dry cleaning. That's not snark. That's actually what I believe happened. LOL.

Edited August 25, 2020 by bravofan27

[Ms Blue Jay]

13 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

What’s with these women. Whenever they cross paths with someone who happens to be working, they manipulate that person into working for them.

Ramona turns anyone who works at a hotel into her personal assistant/butler.

Lu asks the doggy groomer for a massage.

Lu asks the hairstylist backstage at a runway show to freshen up her hair.

Ramona turns the bartender at Century 21 into her personal mixologist.

”Someone has paid this person to be here. How can I take advantage of that?”

It reminds me of that plot where Carole introduced Luann to Norma Kamali and then Luann asked for a free dress.  I might be getting all the details wrong, but it was a big thing at the time.

5 hours ago, ladle said:

My six year old was watching this episode with me and declared, "Ramona has a healthy self-esteem."  So remote schooling is going swimmingly.  

I actually agree.  I don't care how much she loves herself, let her.  Doesn't bother me at all.

[The Ringo Kidd]

18 hours ago, biakbiak said:

She parked her car at his house which was in Queens. Between that and the free dry cleaning, her breakup will probably increase her monthly expenses by several hundred dollars.

Don’t forget she has to pay for her own cocaine.

[Hangin Out]

15 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Don’t forget she has to pay for her own cocaine.

Maybe she ran low and is crabby.

[Hangin Out]

I have to go into Queens on business tomorrow.  Maybe I’ll stop by John’s place and ask “what are you doing here without Dorinda”?

[amarante]

Is it actually possible to have a business that supports one selling ordinary sweat clothing and t-shirts with a company logo. It's not as if the logo itself is valuable - e.g. people will spend a lot of money for a Vuitton t-shirt with a logo. Who is the market for this except theoretically idiots who are Leah fans and will pay for the branded merchandise. 

It appeared that there were employees taking it all seriously at the meeting - a FIT MODEL for a sweatshirt which is probably ordered in quantity for a source in China and then having the logo put on.

And was I the only one who noticed the bizarre group of people at the Century 21 opening. Apart from the Housewives, those in attendance seemed to be random people rounded up from the street. In NY, you can generally get hip looking people to attend any kind of event but these people didn't resemble anyone who would normally appear at any kind of opening except for the kind of book signings or whatever that attract rabid fans.

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

It reminds me of that plot where Carole introduced Luann to Norma Kamali and then Luann asked for a free dress.  I might be getting all the details wrong, but it was a big thing at the time.

You got the important part right.  The designer was Naeem Khan.

luann-de-lesseps-says-carole-borrows-designer-clothing-too

[Ms Blue Jay]

23 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

You got the important part right.  The designer was Naeem Khan.

luann-de-lesseps-says-carole-borrows-designer-clothing-too

HAHAH THANK YOU

[janiema]

1 hour ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

HAHAH THANK YOU

Actually I think LuAnn was right about this. 

[PhilMarlowe2]

On 8/20/2020 at 8:07 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

Ramona is finally making sense for once and both Dorinda and Leah are gaslighting her and it's disgusting.

So glad I'm not the only who thinks Leah has been gaslighting Ramona this season. Ramona is far from perfect, but it's like, you know who she is, so why do you keep trying to get approval from her that you're never going to get (and then getting angry at her for not giving it to you)? Leah has these insane demands for Ramona to validate her. Ramona is not your mother, Leah. Leave her alone.

[Axie]

3 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

I feel like Dorinda's pants were given to her by Jon whose customer never picked them up from dry cleaning. 

If he did, that would explain the breakup.

[Raiderred]

On 8/20/2020 at 8:18 PM, Straycat80 said:

I would fail as a waitress, I would poor that bottle of wine over Ramona’s head. Picky McPickerson. 

Romona has consumed unknowing amounts of spit, loogies, boogers, flies, etc., in her lifetime.  Never piss off anyone serving you food!  

Edited August 23, 2020 by Raiderred

[Gam2]

11 hours ago, ladle said:

My six year old was watching this episode with me and declared, "Ramona has a healthy self-esteem."  So remote schooling is going swimmingly.  

You let your six year old child watch this trash? I won’t even watch this absolute crap for fear that I’ll start believing that this is normal or acceptable behavior. 

[chewycandy]

1 hour ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

So glad I'm not the only who thinks Leah has been gaslighting Ramona this season. Ramona is far from perfect, but it's like, you know who she is, so why do you keep trying to get approval from her that you're never going to get (and then getting angry at her for not giving it to you)? Leah has these insane demands for Ramona to validate her. Ramona is not your mother, Leah. Leave her alone.

And Leah’s not her daughter...why is Ramona getting angry at Leah for not siding with them re: Dorinda when Leah has none of the history with Dorinda that the others do?

[Stats Queen]

7 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

And Leah’s not her daughter...why is Ramona getting angry at Leah for not siding with them re: Dorinda when Leah has none of the history with Dorinda that the others do?

I think Ramona had one too many straws that broke the camel’s back with Dorinda, as has LuAnn. Ramona is frustrated that Leah isn’t fed up. What she’s not realizing is that she has experienced several years of Dorinda whereas Leah has only experienced a couple of months.

Give Leah three years and I bet she will get there also. Hurricane Leah coming after Dorinda would be a sight to behold.

[ichbin]

24 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Give Leah three years and I bet she will get there also. Hurricane Leah coming after Dorinda would be a sight to behold.

Hurricane?  Nah, more like a straight-line wind. From what she has shown so far, all Leah would do is shout inanely, throw things or cause property damage. Those situations aren't like the talking heads where they have prepared their clever quips.  If Leah were to fight with Dorinda it would probably be more like one drunk person fighting a mirror image of herself. The only difference being that Dorinda possibly hurts herself (thinking back to her knife in the hand or the time she smashed her face into the cake with lighted candles).  If these women have to fight I prefer them to be lucid.  

[Stats Queen]

1 hour ago, ichbin said:

Hurricane?  Nah, more like a straight-line wind. From what she has shown so far, all Leah would do is shout inanely, throw things or cause property damage. Those situations aren't like the talking heads where they have prepared their clever quips.  If Leah were to fight with Dorinda it would probably be more like one drunk person fighting a mirror image of herself. The only difference being that Dorinda possibly hurts herself (thinking back to her knife in the hand or the time she smashed her face into the cake with lighted candles).  If these women have to fight I prefer them to be lucid.  

Being lucid would be good because a drunk fight with Tiki Torches and a Cake with lighted candles just may be one step too far for Bravo’s liability insurance. Then again, they do not appear to have not bothered to do anything but sexual harassment in the workplace or creating a hostile work environment.

Dorinda creates a hostile work environment minutes before she walks in the door (spittle can travel a distance).

[Hangin Out]

On 8/22/2020 at 12:00 PM, Bronzedog said:

To be honest, although I'm not a Dorinda fan, I'm more likely to stop watching because I'm disgusted with seeing floor turds and people peeing all the time rather than because of Dorinda.

In Season 8, when they all went up to BSM, Ramona’s dog was crapping in every room and Dorinda was going around picking it up.  Then as each one of them were coming in, they had crap on the bottom of their shoes.  I would have called emergency carpet cleaning right then and there.  She has beautiful carpets.  Then the dogs sleep in their beds with them on beautiful sheets.

[SuprSuprElevated]

14 hours ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

So glad I'm not the only who thinks Leah has been gaslighting Ramona this season. Ramona is far from perfect, but it's like, you know who she is, so why do you keep trying to get approval from her that you're never going to get (and then getting angry at her for not giving it to you)? Leah has these insane demands for Ramona to validate her. Ramona is not your mother, Leah. Leave her alone.

You're probably correct, but Leah is right about her assertion that Ramona judges her more harshly than she does Sawnya.  We've all seen Sonja act like a pornographic sideshow act while Ramona giggles about it.

[SuprSuprElevated]

13 hours ago, Raiderred said:

Romona has consumed unknowing amounts of spit, loogies, boogers, flies, etc., in her lifetime.  Never piss off anyone serving you food!  

I am to a fault, one who wears my heart on my sleeve, and known to show my displeasure with poor service, etc., but I find myself to be sickeningly sweet when it comes to food service, lol.

[Hangin Out]

On 8/23/2020 at 12:42 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

What’s with these women. Whenever they cross paths with someone who happens to be working, they manipulate that person into working for them.

Ramona turns anyone who works at a hotel into her personal assistant/butler.

Lu asks the doggy groomer for a massage.

Lu asks the hairstylist backstage at a runway show to freshen up her hair.

Ramona turns the bartender at Century 21 into her personal mixologist.

”Someone has paid this person to be here. How can I take advantage of that?”

Those fancy ass people who think they are special are the cheapest.  My kid worked at a country club in the summer.  They were the worst.  They are obnoxious too.

[mostlylurking]

On 8/21/2020 at 12:29 PM, Bluesky said:

These styles might have been popular 15 years ago when she started but she hasn’t kept up with current trends.  Wearing “bitch” on your clothes like it’s 1998.  

Yes, I absolutely could see these styles, plus what Leah wears on the show, being popular in the 90’s.  Now, now so much.  It’s dated.

On 8/21/2020 at 2:05 PM, Pop Tart said:

Luann didn't straddle the fence. She just spoke to Dorinda one on one rather then sending her a text in a group chat about anger issues.

Lu did try but obviously got nowhere.  That’s why I was kinda pissed at her for not sticking up for Ramona.  Nothing Ramona said at the dinner was wrong.  Lu kind of mocking Ramona was just giving Dorinda more fuel for the fire.  And forget Leah.  She wasn’t included on the group text because she’s not a part of the group, and she wouldn’t really care anyway.  Sonja said as much, and it’s true.  Ramona has MANY issues, but I think she knows she has these issues.  Big difference between her and Dorinda.  I really hope they all stop trying with Dorinda.  Also Sonja saying that she’s given D a pass because D is hurting and in a bad place, oh please.  That’s nice of her I guess but just being in a bad place in life or in pain does not give one the right to viciously slam everyone around them, and to do it continuously.  I consider myself pretty compassionate but at this point, shove your pain up your ass, Dorinda.  I’m over it.

[CharlizeCat]

Depends chose the wrong housewife as their spokesperson.  I can't decide between Moaner and Sloppy Sonja ... 

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by CharlizeCat

[faraway]

What a bunch of crap Leah is selling. Cheap materials, dumb slogans, stupid business name. 

[faraway]

News for Ramona: super high self esteem is not always a good thing. 

Edited August 24, 2020 by Ms. Me

[ladle]

21 hours ago, Gam2 said:

You let your six year old child watch this trash? I won’t even watch this absolute crap for fear that I’ll start believing that this is normal or acceptable behavior. 

Oh, she judges them.  

[Jextella]

This season of RHONY is interesting.  As I read through comments, I find myself liking most of them despite many of them being so different in nature.

There is so much to say on both sides of the fence for just about every cast member and every behavior!

Edited August 25, 2020 by Jextella

[bravofan27]

On ‎8‎/‎23‎/‎2020 at 6:13 PM, Axie said:

If he did, that would explain the breakup.

For real. Jon needs clientele who don't care about more fashionable items.

I looked at Married to the Mob website, and I will agree that it's a little unremarkable. I sort of think that Leah is a rich kid, somewhat like Tinsley, only more hippie style. I sort of think her dad is Jewish, but she keeps it on the low because she doesn't want to seem like the typical Jewish girl in NYC. I could be wrong, but she's definitely trying to prove that she isn't someone, more than trying to prove who she is. Maybe her issue is she doesn't have an identity.

Edited to add that her Wikipedia says she is Irish- Italian. So her dad took the mom's last name?

Edited August 25, 2020 by bravofan27

[bravofan27]

 

On ‎8‎/‎23‎/‎2020 at 7:55 PM, Gam2 said:

You let your six year old child watch this trash? I won’t even watch this absolute crap for fear that I’ll start believing that this is normal or acceptable behavior. 

My mom and dad, who are in their 70s, make me watch the show in the basement when I visit because they don't like the yelling. LOL.

[OnceSane]

No spoilers in the episode threads, please!  If it didn't happen in this episode, it is a spoiler.  

[Scograd]

On 8/22/2020 at 1:20 PM, Anne Thrax said:

What sticks out to me in this episode are the terrible clothes.  Clothes in the THs, clothes they're wearing in the scenes, clothes they're selling.

I think just about everyone were taken aback with Dorinda's choice of pants.  They might have looked decent if they had a modern shape or tapered legs, but they just look like baggy pajama pants.  What gets me is how she struts around looking like she thinks she's so chic in them.  And that oddball headband thing with the pink pompoms -- is the intention to imitate the alien from Mars look?  If so, she's on target.  At Sonja's opening, Dorinda paired those super-high heeled dress booties (that she can't walk in for shit) with stretch pants and a blouse one might wear to the grocery store -- why do I get the feeling she paid a king's ransom for each piece.

That dress Luann was wearing in her THs - black with the fake pearl strand holding it up.  Looks cheap and tacky.  Is it a Sonja by Sonja Morgan?  Looks about the quality she sells.  

Ramona in that dreadful, too-small lace dress that she said was Sonja by Sonja Morgan -- reminiscent of a an overfilled sausage ready to burst the casing at any moment.

Leah feels like literally the sky's the limit with her clothing line.  I find it hard to believe she actually makes money with the cheap looking, unremarkable Married To The Mob garbage.  Does the concept of glorifying organized crime fly in NYC or something, because I just hate the stupid name.  That neon yellow sweatshirt with bold block "MTTM" in blue across the chest?  Reminds me of someone's project in a high school silk screening class.  Literally junk that I can't imagine anyone spotting in a store and saying "oh I gotta try some of these on; gotta have this it's so cute".   The scene is capped by Leah's TH wearing the most gawd-awful plastic and glass earrings that I would guess came from the Goodwill store.  Last but not least was the hair jacket she wore to Sonja's Century 21 opening.  Gross!!  And she really needs to burn that atrocious red and yellow glove/blouse/dress thingy.

Also, Dorinda in her THs wearing the ugliest statement necklace known to mankind.  And I thought Luann owned all of those.

Did Ramona wear a cocktail dress to her therapy appointment?  

Either Ramona double-booked a date with her therapy appointment, or she was trying to snag a date with the next patient.  “I just finished therapy and I’m great.  Let’s go out so I can tell you how great I am, and I can tell you what you need to fix, because I fixed myself.” 

Leah’s sweatshirts boggle my mind.  She said they were talking to Hanes, Fruit of the Loom and Russell Athletic.  If I wanted a $10 sweatshirt with something on it, I’ll just order from Etsy tyvm.

I do love how Ramona explained that she “loves Dorinda, but doesn’t always like her.”   I’m sure this is what Bunny was referring to, but then Sarah used it to gaslight Leah.   

[bravofan27]

7 minutes ago, Scograd said:

Either Ramona double-booked a date with her therapy appointment, or she was trying to snag a date with the next patient.  “I just finished therapy and I’m great.  Let’s go out so I can tell you how great I am, and I can tell you what you need to fix, because I fixed myself.” 

Leah’s sweatshirts boggle my mind.  She said they were talking to Hanes, Fruit of the Loom and Russell Athletic.  If I wanted a $10 sweatshirt with something on it, I’ll just order from Etsy tyvm.

I do love how Ramona explained that she “loves Dorinda, but doesn’t always like her.”   I’m sure this is what Bunny was referring to, but then Sarah used it to gaslight Leah.   

Leah's clothes are inexpensive, because who is going to pay a lot of money for a shirt that says they are controlled by dick or a huge bitch. I think it's niche. Maybe like bachelorette party or something. In any case, most people are wearing those slogans casually-- it's sort of a joke or for fun. For a certain occasion it might work. It's kind of like a cross between Claire's and Spencers.

 

[ButterQueen]

On 8/21/2020 at 9:03 AM, AttackTurtle said:

I switched between the convention and basketball.  I just can’t deal with another episode of abusive drunk Dorinda, ridiculous Ramona, out of place Leah, and delusional Sonja.   I can take Luanne when she’s being fun and the voice of reason.  
 

This business with Dorinda is just gross.  She gets worse every year.  Next week we get to see her abuse John (please let us find out that he dumped her ass and not vice versa).  

Start from scratch or bring back Bethenny.  And even though she bugged the shot out of me, Jill would be a good foil for Dorinda.  Jill doesn’t drink, speaks her mind and hasn’t been arrested.  She is also a widow (although I’m sure Dorinda can find a way to one up her regardless).  

I want Heather back....she stood up to Dorinda.

[Stats Queen]

39 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I want Heather back....she stood up to Dorinda.

And she has a house in the Berkshires!!