2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[heckkitty]

8 hours ago, lemonbus230 said:

Interested to see if they edit out where Judy called Lily ugly tonight and told Lily that she throws away all her gameday photos. Judy is not the angel she pretends to portray.

Where is I leave my torch & pitchfork?😡

[scorpio1031]

12 minutes ago, heckkitty said:

Where is I leave my torch & pitchfork?😡

I would think you could probably borrow @ByTor's but if they pull Brennan in the office tonight, she will need them

[forumborum]

31 minutes ago, heckkitty said:

Where is I leave my torch & pitchfork?😡

Agree !  Lily ugly ?  What about this ? Square as the day is long .  What is she wearing ????

[vanillagum]

LMAO WHAT IS THAT PICTURE

[Uk-Eve]

56 minutes ago, forumborum said:

Agree !  Lily ugly ?  What about this ? Square as the day is long .  What is she wearing ????

I WANT HER ABS MAN

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, Uk-Eve said:

I WANT HER ABS MAN

Me to I’m jelly 

[Blue hues]

5 hours ago, vanillagum said:

Something about them—who both made the squad when it was comparatively a joke, literally 100x easier and didn't require a lifetime of dance—judging these women so harshly, scolding them for being over a size 2, and seemingly loving to knock beautiful, talented women, down a peg at every turn...it's just not sitting right with me anymore. I've only been watching this show for a year so I guess it's just not really sinking in until now, but I'm increasingly over it...it's just too much. I used to see some humanity in them, like when Kelli cried at Alexandra s9's cut, but now they just seem so nasty. And this is just my impression from what they show...I can't even imagine what they're like offscreen.

I mean, they do worship at Kitty's hellish altar after all

K and J are just like middle/high school mean girls.  They tear others down to build themselves up.  Notice Kelli rarely has a genuine smile, just bares her teeth, and the smile never reaches her eyes.  Judy just seems remote, squint and judge from afar.

[KickBallFall]

It’s like pouring salt in a wound at this point. 😭

[Tuxcat]

1 minute ago, KickBallFall said:

It’s like pouring salt in a wound at this point. 😭

I can't even believe this is real!

[KickBallFall]

1 minute ago, Tuxcat said:

I can't even believe this is real!

Neither could I when I saw it. Whomever is running their social media (and thinks they’re cute with stuff like this) needs a lesson on professionalism and tact. And plain old freaking common sense. 

[NC-CFD09]

Anyone else think Rachel W was trying to make Tori look terrible about that Bret Kavanaugh question? Like couldn’t she have just not interjected..? Or said anything other than the sassy thing she said? 

[Jezlyn]

On 1/5/2021 at 10:46 AM, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

I think Kristin will definitely retire and follow her boyfriend 

If she doesn't retire wouldn't be surprised to see Kelly leverage this information to form some sort of loyalty argument for why she gets cut next season

Edited January 6, 2021 by Jesiklyn

[Tuxcat]

8 minutes ago, NC-CFD09 said:

Anyone else think Rachel W was trying to make Tori look terrible about that Bret Kavanaugh question? Like couldn’t she have just not interjected..? Or said anything other than the sassy thing she said? 

She looked like she was chomping at the bit to get that correction in QUICK... I don't think she was trying to make Tori look bad but she is really passionate about her political leanings.

[Trixi]

24 minutes ago, KickBallFall said:

It’s like pouring salt in a wound at this point. 😭

I think Hannah was awesome during media training.  Showed such grace and courage. Watched her closely during the dance off and she was great. Me thinks TPTB don’t want any mental health issues on the team. Its one thing to do lip service to causes like that boot thing, but lets elevate the team itself with real people, life is challenging. 

Edited January 6, 2021 by Trixi
Wording

[TN DCC fan]

1 hour ago, KickBallFall said:

It’s like pouring salt in a wound at this point. 😭

So true ... and it’s not the first time either .... When they were showing previews of an episode on YouTube, the title of the episode was “the vets aren’t safe” with Hannah’s picture.  

I’m thinking if she articulated to TPTB that she didn’t feel like the “bubble” was safe (which from watching the show it clearly isn’t ) then you just made fun of her by titling the preview that...  what a jerky thing to do.  
 

Wait..... Judy did what to Lily???!!!!  

[KG150]

👀👀👀

[Trixi]

17 minutes ago, KG150 said:

👀👀👀

Preach, girl!❤️

[pinkandsparkly13]

Maybe we can have a girl that will spill some tea, and doesn't care. Come on Hannah! Ha 

[Tuxcat]

44 minutes ago, KG150 said:

👀👀👀

AMEN! This strong woman is going places. I am thankful she's willing to use her voice to be the real champion and supporter of women.

[perrie97]

1 hour ago, Tuxcat said:

She looked like she was chomping at the bit to get that correction in QUICK... I don't think she was trying to make Tori look bad but she is really passionate about her political leanings.

I don’t have access to episodes in my country 😢 I’m curious about this, what question was asked and what did Rachel W say? I was under the impression she had some conservative political leanings would be interested to hear her response 

Edited January 6, 2021 by perrie97
Re worded

[TUOwl84]

[Lona]

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Edited January 6, 2021 by Lona

[DCC-UK]

1 hour ago, KG150 said:

👀👀👀

Suck on that! I'm super proud of Hannah, standing up for all of us who are taking this pandemic seriously than many others are and also showing that even strong women can have mental health problems. She's the sort of person I want to see as a DCC.

[tdp1117]

On 12/24/2020 at 4:20 AM, perrie97 said:

Hannah didn’t show up to work “mentally unprepared”, she was suffering distress beyond her control and likely managed it best as she could.  She wasnt simply “stressed out”- she’s been open about her anxiety and depression. A pandemic is prime time for such issues to flare up.  dancing was clearly something she was looking forward to; she may have thought it would help her mental state. it’s actually legally discrimination to fire someone based on mental illness. If it’s affecting someone’s work then the right thing to do would be offer them to take leave and return when they’re well, as many professional sport teams do rather than firing them. After all, supporting the wellbeing of ones staff certainly is part of Kelli’s/any boss’ job. However in Hannah’s case it didn’t massively affect her performance- dancing was up to par and far better than some of those still on the team, so the cut seems unfair. 

As many have pointed out, the bubble was pointless since no one had to isolate for 2 weeks prior to entering. Even with testing before entering, If someone picked up COVID 2 nights before TC at a gathering, a COVID test could show up negative until they had developed symptoms. They would be infectious for at least a portion if not all  of TC, rendering the bubble useless. 
 

So are you actually suggesting they should have held Hannah's spot and cut someone who's game ready just because of her mental illness?  Also you should realize that the DCC are not employees unlike the players you cited.  They're independent contractors, and the worker rules do not apply to them.  If I'm Kelli, I want to keep the 36 strongest girls -- physically and mentally.  If they wanted to be charitable, they would not have cut Brennan but instead given her a chance to heal.  That's not how this situation works.  There are 36 spots, and I would be bitter AF if I got cut and then a spot was held for someone who was not mentally ready to be on the field when I was.  There's a chance she may not have been ready all season, and that would mean the cut would be for nothing.  The real lesson here is life isn't always fair.  Hannah (and Brennan as well) learned this in training camp.  Brennan didn't go out and bad mouth the organization after though.  Hannah did.  That was not professional, and looked like she was pitching a fit the same way my 10 year old niece does when I won't buy her Roblox Dollars.  That's not a good look for her.  

[JayDKay]

49 minutes ago, tdp1117 said:

So are you actually suggesting they should have held Hannah's spot and cut someone who's game ready just because of her mental illness?  Also you should realize that the DCC are not employees unlike the players you cited.  They're independent contractors, and the worker rules do not apply to them.  If I'm Kelli, I want to keep the 36 strongest girls -- physically and mentally.  If they wanted to be charitable, they would not have cut Brennan but instead given her a chance to heal.  That's not how this situation works.  There are 36 spots, and I would be bitter AF if I got cut and then a spot was held for someone who was not mentally ready to be on the field when I was.  There's a chance she may not have been ready all season, and that would mean the cut would be for nothing.  The real lesson here is life isn't always fair.  Hannah (and Brennan as well) learned this in training camp.  Brennan didn't go out and bad mouth the organization after though.  Hannah did.  That was not professional, and looked like she was pitching a fit the same way my 10 year old niece does when I won't buy her Roblox Dollars.  That's not a good look for her.  

Just because Hannah is struggling with the pandemic, doesn't mean she isn't game ready. She looked better than a few others in the room that didn't get cut! 

Also, if you were employed/ contracted and were unfairly treated/ dismissed, would you stay quiet because it's the "professional" thing to do. F*CK that! I'd be very vocal about what has gone down to shine a spotlight on the bullshit treatment and to warn others. Sure, life isn't fair, but if I can call someone out for bullshit treatment, i will. Screw professionalism, I'm standing up for myself!!! 

[Uk-Eve]

Right I will start a cheerleading group just for Hannah and Brennan. Everyone from this board is welcomed and everyone outside this board is welcomed too. Except the following people:

 

1) DEMENTIA KELLI FINGLASS, "I CANNOT STICK UP FORMYSELF ANYMORE" JUDY TRAMMELL, DUMBASS CHARLOTTE, and all of their families

 

2) Those snide "I can't handle other people's opinions" people in all the other facebook groups that is (and to put it nicely), against people this forum, for speaking the truth/having an opinion etc

 

3) CMT and all everyone else that agrees with the editing and promotion of that show .... etc

[Pau84]

14 minutes ago, JayDKay said:

Just because Hannah is struggling with the pandemic, doesn't mean she isn't game ready. She looked better than a few others in the room that didn't get cut! 

Also, if you were employed/ contracted and were unfairly treated/ dismissed, would you stay quiet because it's the "professional" thing to do. F*CK that! I'd be very vocal about what has gone down to shine a spotlight on the bullshit treatment and to warn others. Sure, life isn't fair, but if I can call someone out for bullshit treatment, i will. Screw professionalism, I'm standing up for myself!!! 

You are right. Professionalism cuts both ways.

Using the word professionalism in the DCC setting is laughable if you look at all the unprofessional and irrational decisions we all have seen through the years. Everything is up to Kelli and her emotions (and self image).

• Girl 1 gets praise for A
• Girl 2 gets cut for A

In case of Brennan and Hannah I would like to point out that these two combined auditioned almost 8 times before joining the team. This should mean something. If you are unsure about a candidate, just don't do it. Some girls do not need to audition multiple times, these are the girls that you should go for.  The only reason someone should be allowed to audition a second time should be dancing, not a combination of several issues.

Kelli's emotion and self image made her have girls on the team that were just a great DCC candidate away from cutting. That is what Hannah and Brennan and a lot of other girls are (were). I think that the Showgroup treatment of girls is the pinnacle of unprofessionalism. If Jalyn did something to get kicked out of SG (it is definitely not her dancing), then kick her out of the team. Why have a need for Showgroup auditions in the first place? Just have 3rd year girls and above serve on Showgroup. If you do not let your emotions get in the way of who is on the squad you can do this. If you do let all of your emotional bagage and hangups get in the way (hello Kelli McGonagill from East Texas) everyone and everything is an exception.

Who would have thought that Hannah would keep quiet about being cut? Not me.

 

[souR77]

2 hours ago, tdp1117 said:

So are you actually suggesting they should have held Hannah's spot and cut someone who's game ready just because of her mental illness?  Also you should realize that the DCC are not employees unlike the players you cited.  They're independent contractors, and the worker rules do not apply to them.  If I'm Kelli, I want to keep the 36 strongest girls -- physically and mentally.  If they wanted to be charitable, they would not have cut Brennan but instead given her a chance to heal.  That's not how this situation works.  There are 36 spots, and I would be bitter AF if I got cut and then a spot was held for someone who was not mentally ready to be on the field when I was.  There's a chance she may not have been ready all season, and that would mean the cut would be for nothing.  The real lesson here is life isn't always fair.  Hannah (and Brennan as well) learned this in training camp.  Brennan didn't go out and bad mouth the organization after though.  Hannah did.  That was not professional, and looked like she was pitching a fit the same way my 10 year old niece does when I won't buy her Roblox Dollars.  That's not a good look for her.  

There have been several times they gave leniency to vets far worse situations than Hannah. What has been said across this whole board and what Hannah has said that the producers were made to look like she was terrible. I didn’t really see this episode but the only scenes they’ve shown Hannah mess up was the Evan Miller dance in two episodes which is the one stated that the vets only had learned less than 24 hours she also wasn’t the only vet with problems on that dance and it was also stated by someone on the inside that Savannah forgot a dance and decided not to dance the rest of the day which to me sounds far more unprepared than Hannah but Kelli and Judy never pointed them out and it wasn’t on the show. I made sure to look at Hannah whenever her group danced and she was never complimented or showed when she did right which was 95% of the time. 
 

I feel like the producers made Hannah’s mistakes worse than what they were which Hannah said would happen long before the showed aired. She clearly knows from times before how they twisted storylines to fit their narrative. There are more sound bites on this season than ever which are done after they stopped training camp. 

[ByTor]

10 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

I would think you could probably borrow @ByTor's but if they pull Brennan in the office tonight, she will need them

No need to borrow, I have had extras in case such a situation arose 😂

9 hours ago, Holly85 said:

9 hours ago, Uk-Eve said:

I WANT HER ABS MAN

Me to I’m jelly 

Personally I think those abs look terrible on a woman. Clearly people disagree; my opinion doesn't make it so. Judy says Lily is "ugly." Clearly people disagree; her opinion doesn't make it so.  And while Judy may have found her unattractive...ugly?? Come on.

[madmax84]

Hannah!!! So proud. Finally someone stands up to the hypocrisy of this organization 

[Uk-Eve]

8 minutes ago, ByTor said:

No need to borrow, I have had extras in case such a situation arose 😂

Personally I think those abs look terrible on a woman. Clearly people disagree; my opinion doesn't make it so. Judy says Lily is "ugly." Clearly people disagree; her opinion doesn't make it so.  And while Judy may have found her unattractive...ugly?? Come on.

Well her abs may not be perfect, but its better than my beer belly that I gained from this "boring covid 19"!!!!!

[ByTor]

3 minutes ago, Uk-Eve said:

Well her abs may not be perfect, but its better than my beer belly that I gained from this "boring covid 19"!!!!!

Oh hell to the yes (but the abs I was talking about were Lisa's, I don't care for that look, but for sure many do)!!!  I'd be thrilled right now if I had Maddie's "thick" body!

[Wahoodancer]

12 hours ago, realityjunkie771 said:

Sheesh... she may not have been the most powerful cheerleader, but she really does look great on stage. My heart still hurts for her.

And she was still recovering from Covid 19. I’m wondering though if she should have taken them up on the opportunity to defer a year? Although even with that she could have been cut the next year at finals. 

[madmax84]

How much ADR do you guys think they do? A lot of the comments while judging were not made in the moment and you can hear a difference.

[realityjunkie771]

5 hours ago, tdp1117 said:

Brennan didn't go out and bad mouth the organization after though.  Hannah did.  That was not professional, and looked like she was pitching a fit the same way my 10 year old niece does when I won't buy her Roblox Dollars.  That's not a good look for her.  

There are a lot of things I don’t like about this take, but I’ll stick with this: this goes beyond a child pouting because they didn’t get something they wanted. This is a woman who had something she was clearly very qualified for taken away because she could not perform perfectly at the time due to her illness. This take not only infantilizes Hannah, infantilizes women for having feelings at all, but punishes her for speaking about about how reality tv commodifies the pain and suffering of women. The hypocrisy displayed by the team behind MTT shows how openness about mental health, especially by women, is only valued when it gives a company altruism brownie points -- that's the whole idea behind My Cause My Boots. When women actually begin to show the effects of their illness, they are punished, and yet their presence in the organization in the first place is lauded as some sort of gold star. God forbid Hannah actually try to make this fact clear, knowing that people will either not understand or willfully miss the point and attack her. 

And trust me, I understand how the dance industry works. I get how television and performance work. But using “this is the way it is” as an excuse is not good enough. Sure, this is the way it is. Is it right? Is it just? Do we continue to demand perfection and still capitalize on the idea of tearing women down? This season of MTT has exploited Hannah's illness for #ratings and yet she was released from the team when her illness manifested. If we can’t step back and be critical of how the industry works, we will continue to see the same exploitation. But that’s okay because it’s just the way it is, right?

Let's stop punishing women for standing up for themselves, please.

Edited January 6, 2021 by realityjunkie771
Re-clarifying a point

[souR77]

17 minutes ago, realityjunkie771 said:

There are a lot of things I don’t like about this take, but I’ll stick with this: this goes beyond a child pouting because they didn’t get something they wanted. This is a woman who had something she was clearly very qualified for taken away because she could not perform perfectly at the time due to her illness. This take not only infantilizes Hannah, infantilizes women for having feelings at all, but punishes her for speaking about about how reality tv commodifies the pain and suffering of women. The hypocrisy displayed by the team behind MTT shows how openness about mental health, especially by women, is only valued when it gives a company altruism brownie points -- that's the whole idea behind My Cause My Boots. When women actually begin to show the effects of their illness, they are punished, and yet their presence in the organization in the first place is lauded as some sort of gold star. God forbid Hannah actually try to make this fact clear, knowing that people will either not understand or willfully miss the point and attack her. 

And trust me, I understand how the dance industry works. I get how television and performance work. But using “this is the way it is” as an excuse is not good enough. Sure, this is the way it is. Is it right? Is it just? Do we continue to demand perfection and still capitalize on the idea of tearing women down? This season of MTT has exploited Hannah's illness for #ratings and yet she was released from the team when her illness manifested. If we can’t step back and be critical of how the industry works, we will continue to see the same exploitation. But that’s okay because it’s just the way it is, right?

Let's stop punishing women for standing up for themselves, please.

This was so well said, I wish I could love this a thousand times! 
 

Id like to also add that Kelli is always talking about how they expect them to be more than just dancers which is why they do panel interviews, media day, asks them to give explanations for the “my cause my boots” and loves to add what the cheerleaders do outside of DCC; what they did to Hannah also contradicts those ideals Kelli has for DCC. 

[ByTor]

13 hours ago, realityjunkie771 said:

Sheesh... she may not have been the most powerful cheerleader, but she really does look great on stage. My heart still hurts for her.

Blasphemy alert...I thought her solo was much more entertaining than Caroline's.

[kalibean]

17 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Blasphemy alert...I thought her solo was much more entertaining than Caroline's.

I agree with that as well.  Caroline had beautiful lines, beautiful technique...and enough confidence in her position to not pull in a ton of tricks we've seen her do before.  And that's just fine, and I'm sure Judy loved it, but I would much rather watch a showy, fun solo.  Maybe I'm emotionally dead inside, but while I can appreciate the technique, I rarely enjoy watching lyrical/contemporary pieces.  Here, SYTYCD, anywhere.  Give me hip hop, jazz, power pom, whatever.

Brennan looked fantastic, and I snickered at Brianna's comment under the posting:  "I am available for hire for all videography and commentary needs.  Hit the DM to book."  Maybe I'm just now noticing, but Brianna is hilarious on social media and she's very active.

[Agent Gully]

1 hour ago, realityjunkie771 said:

There are a lot of things I don’t like about this take, but I’ll stick with this: this goes beyond a child pouting because they didn’t get something they wanted. This is a woman who had something she was clearly very qualified for taken away because she could not perform perfectly at the time due to her illness. This take not only infantilizes Hannah, infantilizes women for having feelings at all, but punishes her for speaking about about how reality tv commodifies the pain and suffering of women. The hypocrisy displayed by the team behind MTT shows how openness about mental health, especially by women, is only valued when it gives a company altruism brownie points -- that's the whole idea behind My Cause My Boots. When women actually begin to show the effects of their illness, they are punished, and yet their presence in the organization in the first place is lauded as some sort of gold star. God forbid Hannah actually try to make this fact clear, knowing that people will either not understand or willfully miss the point and attack her. 

And trust me, I understand how the dance industry works. I get how television and performance work. But using “this is the way it is” as an excuse is not good enough. Sure, this is the way it is. Is it right? Is it just? Do we continue to demand perfection and still capitalize on the idea of tearing women down? This season of MTT has exploited Hannah's illness for #ratings and yet she was released from the team when her illness manifested. If we can’t step back and be critical of how the industry works, we will continue to see the same exploitation. But that’s okay because it’s just the way it is, right?

Let's stop punishing women for standing up for themselves, please.

Agreed! As someone who suffers from anxiety disorder and has had diagnosed severe depression, the best healer is doing something that I enjoy (for me, riding horses and gardening), for Hannah, it is dance. The chance to "get out of your own head" is what many doctors and psychologists recommend, along with exercise. She turned up for practices and was performing better than several gals who made it onto the team.

My guess is that one or more of TPTB know next to nothing about depression and the term "mental illness" frightens them. Perhaps they falsely believe she will suddenly go berserk on the deck and will have to be tranquilized and straight-jacketed out of the stadium. There is nothing that indicates that she would be ANY kind of liability at a game. If you say you are supportive of those with depression, then show it. Talk the talk, walk the walk! You have experts on everything in the Cowboys organization. Meet with an expert to educate yourself about depression or whatever mental illness you may run across with the gals who audition. If you care about these ladies, be part of the solution, not part of the problem. JMO

Edited January 6, 2021 by Agent Gully
With the way I am writing today (and apologies to the Rolling Stones) , "I can't get no satisfaction".

[Tuxcat]

 I fully believe that as s show group veteran she didn't just suddenly become 'not good enough.' They aired only a few "not looking herself moments" - all were with the one funky Evan Miller piece. Slow down those moments and you notice so many of the girls actually messing it up. They had just learned that dance. A few times zoomed in - it was Kat messing up next to her but the show said it was Hannah. 

Was she stressed? yes. Did her mental health get taxed? Of course! Can a global pandemic be devastating for someone with anxiety and depression? YES! But her stress was born from compassion and empathy for others safety as well. And her "disinterested" stance was likely from her 'interest' in safety. She was following protocols while others were completely abandoning them.

Even with all of this - SHE STILL DID Her JOB

She was given three show group stickers so she clearly wasn't awful. In every "board" that's been shown except the very first she has been ABOVE the top 36 line. 

Are you telling me her cut came down to a dance off in which Hannah, a three year vet,  a show group vet  (who appeared to be strong in this episode at least) - justifies this cut? A cut that occurred in one short week - during a global pandemic - during the Texas surge - in unsafe conditions for the purposes of making a TV show? 

No, because even if she was less than herself - even if that is true - you give the benefit of the doubt here to the vets. Always. They've proven themselves able to perform! The rookies still on the line (which should include Sydney in my opinion) still need "teaching" (according to Judy), still need practice, still need time - They can come back next year. They aren't as invested in this process. The benefit of the doubt should go to the vets.  

But that didn't happen because the FIX is in! They knew well before camp started who they'd cut.  

The show is USING the angle "she's mentally weak" -- which of course IS NOT THE CASE and a disservice to women who suffer, and to those who persevere. Hannah said she's proof that with the right tools, resiliency is possible. 

Edited January 6, 2021 by Tuxcat

[kalibean]

This made me giggle. 

[Originalroux]

On 1/2/2021 at 10:53 PM, Loves2Dance said:

And then she became an Ultra Angel it looks like...hmmm...wonder why they didn't mention that? 

Probably for the same reason MRS is always introduced as a winner of “Dancing with the Stars” and never as a winner/publicly humiliated loser on national TV of “The Bachelor”.  It doesn’t serve the image Kelli wants at the time she wants it. 

[vanillagum]

41 minutes ago, kalibean said:

Brennan looked fantastic, and I snickered at Brianna's comment under the posting:  "I am available for hire for all videography and commentary needs.  Hit the DM to book."  Maybe I'm just now noticing, but Brianna is hilarious on social media and she's very active.

lmao briana is my fav and i love her and brennan's friendship 😩

 

6 minutes ago, kalibean said:

This made me giggle. 

LOL

[Jessinvirginia]

10 hours ago, realityjunkie771 said:

There are a lot of things I don’t like about this take, but I’ll stick with this: this goes beyond a child pouting because they didn’t get something they wanted. This is a woman who had something she was clearly very qualified for taken away because she could not perform perfectly at the time due to her illness. This take not only infantilizes Hannah, infantilizes women for having feelings at all, but punishes her for speaking about about how reality tv commodifies the pain and suffering of women. The hypocrisy displayed by the team behind MTT shows how openness about mental health, especially by women, is only valued when it gives a company altruism brownie points -- that's the whole idea behind My Cause My Boots. When women actually begin to show the effects of their illness, they are punished, and yet their presence in the organization in the first place is lauded as some sort of gold star. God forbid Hannah actually try to make this fact clear, knowing that people will either not understand or willfully miss the point and attack her. 

And trust me, I understand how the dance industry works. I get how television and performance work. But using “this is the way it is” as an excuse is not good enough. Sure, this is the way it is. Is it right? Is it just? Do we continue to demand perfection and still capitalize on the idea of tearing women down? This season of MTT has exploited Hannah's illness for #ratings and yet she was released from the team when her illness manifested. If we can’t step back and be critical of how the industry works, we will continue to see the same exploitation. But that’s okay because it’s just the way it is, right?

Let's stop punishing women for standing up for themselves, please.

FREAKING THIS. So does not only does this incredible woman suffer from mental illness, but she’s served as a beacon of light and HOPE to others who also suffer from mental illness, despite the stigma—which is ALIVE AND WELL. Additionally, her mom is on the front lines fighting Covid. So she gets to worry about her mother on a daily basis, her dancing (which is superb), all while attending school full-time, and dancing in an unsafe (physically, mentally, and emotionally) environment. As a woman with mental illness herself, I am absolutely at my breaking point and have been since June. The amount of medication I’m taking almost scares me. Yes I have a psychiatrist and yes I have a therapist— I meet with them twice a week. I recently lost my grandfather to Covid. It was difficult, but he was old and had health problems and we could see it coming. If I lost a parent? One of the few people on the planet who truly understands me, my fight, my plight, my heart, and loves me unconditionally? I would be over. Done.  I hate them for this. I really do. I’ve watched from the beginning but not this season, and never again. This is so gross. And the gaslighting and verbal abuse? Intolerable. I am incensed by the Hannah portrayal. I know how these things work, I’ve danced on a world-class team, and I’ve had more than six friends go on to be professionals on dancing with the stars. I’ve also had two friends make top five on so you think you can dance. I get the dance world. I lived in the dance world. I understand the ugly below the surface crap that takes place. But in much the same way someone had to stand up and say enough with the Me Too (RIP Taylor) movement, this has to stop. They’ve been given a national stage with a varied audience. Use it or lose it. And right now I’m ready to burn it to the ground.

Edited January 7, 2021 by Jessinvirginia

[souR77]

40 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

 I fully believe that as s show group veteran she didn't just suddenly become 'not good enough.' They aired only a few "not looking herself moments" - all were with the one funky Evan Miller piece. Slow down those moments and you notice so many of the girls actually messing it up. They had just learned that dance -- and it will never even be performed on the field! A few times zoomed in - it was Kat messing up next to her but the show said it was Hannah. 

Completely agree but the evan miller dance was performed the first game from videos i've seen during game day it was not in sync and I haven't seen a video of them doing it again. 

 

[mizzhyer]

On 12/30/2020 at 3:45 PM, TUOwl84 said:

Can Maddie do anything else?  Isn't this the 3rd year in a row that her solo has been the same...right down to her look! 🥱 😴 

yawnnnnnnnnnnnn

[MC123]

Hey everyone, so I have been keeping track of the boards that I have seen have have been collating them together in one spreadsheet to see how they change and which girls move up and down. Below is up to episode 6 as I have not seen episode 7 yet in the UK. A couple of things to note: Alanna is always at the top probably because she is first in alphabetical order, there were 2 boards shown in episode 5 hence two headings for episode 5, everyone below the red line is "not top 36", cells in green means they have moved up from their previous position, cells in light red means they have moved down from their previous positions and if they are white it means they have not changed. If the text is red that is the episode they get cut and the the number next to it is the order of the cuts. 

[kalibean]

Of all the random things for CMT to cut, I thought this footage of Taylor’s one day audition was interesting! Probably would have made the show if it was more than one vet doing it. Brennan and Hannah were trying to be team players, I suppose, I suppose, but I wonder if their outcome would have been different if they had gone that route. Tho as a student, Hannah might not be have been able to justify to TPTB? Not sure what hoops they had to jump through. 

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CJtMQOvrwmn/?igshid=1swwe72vxca78

 

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

1 hour ago, Jessinvirginia said:

FREAKING THIS. So does not only does this incredible woman suffer from mental illness, but she’s served as a beacon of light and HOPE to others who also suffer from mental illness, despite the stigma—which is ALIVE AND WELL. Additionally, her mom is on the front lines fighting Covid. So she gets to worry about her mother on a daily basis, and all the what if scenarios, while in school full-time, and dancing in an unsafe (physically, mentally, and emotionally). As a woman with mental illness herself, I am absolutely at my breaking point and have been since June. The amount of medication I’m taking almost scares me. Yes I have a psychiatrist and yes I have a therapist— I meet with them twice a week. I recently lost her grandfather to Covid. It was difficult, but he was old and had health problems and we could see it coming. If I lost a parent? One of the few people on the planet who truly understands me, my fight, my plight, my heart, and loves me unconditionally? I would be over. Done.  I hate them for this. I really do. I’ve watched from the beginning but not this season, and never again. This is so gross. And the gaslighting and verbal abuse? Intolerable. I am incensed by the Hannah portrayal. I know how these things work, I’ve danced on a world-class team, and I’ve had more than six friends go on to be professionals on dancing with the stars. I’ve also had two friends make top five on so you think you can dance. I get the dance world. I lived in the dance world. I understand the ugly below the surface crap that takes place. But in much the same way someone had to stand up and say enough with the Me Too (RIP Taylor) movement, this has to stop. They’ve been given a national stage with a varied audience. Use it or lose it. And right now I’m ready to burn it to the ground.

Can I please just say, I’m sorry for your loss of your grandfather, thank you for being honest and speaking out, I’m glad you’re getting help (I really don’t mean that in any nasty way at all) and that I hope you’re okay 💙
 

also as someone who has suffered mental health issues myself, I’m so peeved at how they’re handling Hannah’s cuts, I’m not sure I can watch the latest episode.

although tbf I probably will but I know I’ll fevers wound up if I do and I’m glad team mates have stuck up for her. 

[Holly85]

11 minutes ago, MegzClarkie said:

Hey everyone, so I have been keeping track of the boards that I have seen have have been collating them together in one spreadsheet to see how they change and which girls move up and down. Below is up to episode 6 as I have not seen episode 7 yet in the UK. A couple of things to note: Alanna is always at the top probably because she is first in alphabetical order, there were 2 boards shown in episode 5 hence two headings for episode 5, everyone below the red line is "not top 36", cells in green means they have moved up from their previous position, cells in light red means they have moved down from their previous positions and if they are white it means they have not changed. If the text is red that is the episode they get cut and the the number next to it is the order of the cuts. 

Episode 7 board