S04.E13: The Pleasure Principle

[Mr. Miner]

18 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I love how Ash strolls in shirtless.  It's like he's trolling for new women to coach after 90 Day Fiance airs.  

I thought it made him look like the slimy scumbag that he is.

[CloseThisAccount]

44 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

Was glad to see Ed hurt. It's hard to say that because it sucks to be hurt but Ed needed a punch in the gut because that is the way he made Rose feel, repeatedly. He's a gross pig and a loser and deserved to be kicked to the curb. 

I don't think Ed was hurt. I think he was embarrassed & pissed off & was doing his best to squeeze out a tear for the camera.  I love how he made it all about his sorrow: "28 years I wait to fall in love and it all falls apart." No self-examination. Ed, you pig, you emotionally tortured that poor woman & deserve worse than you got.

Edited May 18, 2020 by TakeAPinotGrigio

[futurechemist]

My husband and I are split on Varya.  He thinks she was making a grand, but doomed, romantic gesture.  I think she was acting like a stalker who didn't get the message from Geoffrey ghosting her.

EIther way, she seemed like 1 of the more sensible people on this season - not trying to scam a green card, not hiding a dark past, not being a complete idiot.

Watching pillow talk, I'm wondering why the most recent seasons across the franchise have had such a low success rate.  There's 2 episodes left and it seems that every couple has either already broken up or been revealed as a catfish.  I miss seeing actual couples who are legitimately dating and navigating the immigration process.

Edited May 18, 2020 by futurechemist

[jackjill89]

5 hours ago, Kdawg82 said:

My exact thoughts! Now not 1 but TWO famewhores with (implied) penises have Darcey to thank for their FULL TIME in the US (and Canada??) acting gigs!!! They sure owe her hard cash for this. And she should at least earn for every time her name comes out of their mouths.  

They both suck.

Darcey should find true love and real good therapist.

First, a good therapist... then true love.

I think "mmmmm" is David and Lana's love language, since they obviously are incapable of any real conversation. Didn't they 'mmmm' online all the time too? 7 years of "mmmmmm." $100,000 of "mmmmm"  I say "ewwwww"

BGL is a vile human being. She is crass and the ugly inside is showing on the outside. Run Usman, run. 

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by jackjill89

[CloseThisAccount]

David to Lana: I have this phone translator.

Phone: It's nice to be able to finally meet

David: nods, smiles, puts phone away.

Wow, really was a good idea to have that phone translator. He used it almost as effectively as Pole

Then, all the mauling hugging & staring when he's made it impossible for them to communicate. Nothing creepy there at all.

Edited May 18, 2020 by TakeAPinotGrigio

[Kid]

Ash and Avery - he’s a lier, Avery, move on!  Loved his ex-wife.

Erika and Stephanie - don’t care.

Tom and Darcy - don’t care.

Geoffrey and Varya - Varya, Varya, Varya!!  You seemed so smart, so accomplished.  Lovely family.  Say it isn’t so!!  Has to be producer driven.  And why would the other woman accept being second choice??  He must have quite the dick.  Because the appeal is definitely not his sparkling personality! 

Yolanda - I was on your side.  Came to the conclusion that you are either very stupid or a con artist.

Usman and the demon from hell - she is VILE.  

Dave and Lana - yeah, I believe this fantasy.

Ed and Rose - the crocodile tears do not impress me.  I am no fan of Rosemarie but I dislike him even more.  No, Ed, you were not following your heart.  You were following little Ed.  

[Toaster Strudel]

14 hours ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

And to think I was on Team Varya until tonight. Psycho Stalker Russian DJ, anyone?

Absolutely. The aloof, cautious woman we met in Russia looked completely unhinged and maniacal every step of the way, beginning with her submissive, beggarly texting to Geoff when he was leaving at the airport, and ending with her raving mad determination to "surprise" a man whom she pretty much rejected, and hadn't answered her in weeks.

It takes burning hot zealotry to pay for expensive airfare (Varya doesn't look like she's rolling in rubles) and board three flights across the world supercharged by the conviction that her arrival will be a delight, optimistically only signing up for one night at the hotel.

Why, but of course there is no doubt that nippy-tat wife beater is all ready and set up to host a visitor for two whole weeks, at a time not of his choosing.

Wearing dull lip stain, a cheap turtleneck and mismatched costume jewelry, our fanatical anti-heroine sets out on her futile pursuit of a dick wrapped in a green card. It's now or never.

The coy woman who frustrated Geoff by not giving up the pussy on the first night of his visit now is counting down the seconds until she can fall over and roll on his stoop spread-eagle  for a hard core schtupping under his dog's watchful eye.

City girl pining for the bright lights of American cities, where even the smallest hamlet is a utopic blend of New York City and Las Vegas, seemed to notice that the long taxi ride kept going deeper and deeper down into Tennessee's Little Siberia, and away from The Strip on Fifth Avenue. None of that disappointment chipped away at her compulsive journey to win back "her man" who has already settled for thirsty Mary (who seemed not to believe what Geoff was selling, but moved in anyway).

Ding! Dong! It's all ding and no dong for the Russian Stalker.

It's unfortunate that my recording stopped right as SpidermanPointingAtHimself.gif appeared on my screen, and Geoff's girlfriend asked Geoff's girlfriend that the F she was doing there.

Only one of these ladies with self-desctructing taste in men deserves the bitter surprise. The other should have seen something like this coming.

Edited May 18, 2020 by Toaster Strudel

[1011101010001]

49 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Avery and Ash had been talking online for a year before meeting. Ash told her his divorce occurred right around his SEPARATION, a decade before. Yes he 100% lied to her and Sian (the ex wife) confirmed the actual divorce time line. So Avery had every right to be suspicious as Ash’s divorce occurred right around the beginning of their correspondence- not 10yrs before like he told her. 

It was a constructive or common law divorce lol.

[poeticlicensed]

So everyone this season turned out to be horrible, or at least made horrible matches. Here's my take along with if they (or one) shoudl get a season 2

Geoffrey and Varya - producer hijinks for sure. Varya must really want to come to the US to put up with ole tattoo nips. I never saw any interest on her part. Maybe she thinks she might be able to get a gig in the US based on her experience with the show and get a H1 visa out of it. I hope Varya gets to stay, that was her goal anyway, and at least she would be away from the bad man. I could watch Varya for another season as long as it is without Geoffrey. Be gone bad man

David and "Lana" - the lies streaming out of her mouth about being shy and just deciding on a whim to register with an agency, how she got paid nothing, and on and on. David's pics in fancy rented cars made me LOL, as did his Matrix coat, which probably stinks and Lana said she didn't like it. He's delusional, she's a user, they are a match made in heaven. Hopefully she comes to the US, he tells her that they are going RVing for the rest of their lives and she gets outta town and takes his money with her., TBTW, I still think its a toupee, even on 20 year old pics. Guessing he went bald young and has been wearing a rug for decades. This is one couple I want to see get a season 2 cuz it will be a massive train wreck. 

Rose and Ed - he's a horrible person, she needs to go home and forget him. No season 2 for Ed please

Ash and Avery - Avery, go home, this guy is pathological in his lies and mistruths. No season 2 for either of you

BGL and Usman - clearly the only reason Usman is willing to be abused is to get to teh USA, he's pretty up front about it. No other reason for him to put up with that. BGL is a bad person. I want to slap her. As much as I don't like BGL, season 2 might be worth watching.

Yolanda and ? - her 3 day stint in an AirBnb replaying her catfishing experince is boring AF. No season 2 for you.

Erica and Stephanie - Erica needs to waive bye bye and block Steph. She was in Austrailia for two weeks and it seemed like 2 years. So done with her. Do not give Steph another season. 

Darcey needs to grow the F up and get off my TV for a while. I think she has run her storyline as far as it will go and she keeps bringing thirsty losers to the show, so sorry Darcey, no season whatever for you. Or give her a spin off that I won't watch, like the Family Chantal. 

So in the end, David and Lana win the season. LOL

 

[1011101010001]

52 minutes ago, spunky said:

In some Caribbean  communities we do that too where we'll nickname at 6ft. 300 pound man "small man".

Or a puny guy Big Ed.

[1011101010001]

37 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I noticed the same thing.  How does a camera crew with a total stranger come walk onto the property and there's no barking?  No fear at all?  How does that happen?  They didn't appear to know her either -- they weren't excited to see her.  My mid-size dog would scare the shit out of someone walking onto my property.

Dave's $100K would've been better spent fixing Lana's teeth.

The dog seemed geriatric and listless.  Or maybe Geoffrey just doesn’t feed them.

[Gobi]

31 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

Darcy’s daughters are very used to her revolving door of online boyfriends and their mother’s Funhouse Mirror Face Lifts and Boob Jobs....

It's sad to realize that Porn Star Granny looks better than Darcey.

[DEL901]

1 hour ago, kendi said:

That is exactly the color of those Century 21 blazers!  David is a great ignorer of the signs and red flags. You can tell him flat out to his face, just like the PI Sergei did, actual facts and he will fire you. What did he say? I'm looking for facts, not his opinion and he's not leaving any room for a positive outcome? That smoldering anger is scary!

In his mind, their meeting is a fairy tale and she is as enamored with hiim as he is with her. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm!

He was scary.   Sergei was threatening his delusion and David wasn’t having it.   What will happen when either Lana goes back to just being his online girlfriend... or moves to the US, has a quicky wedding and then finds out she is expected to live in an RV?

Or will David decide Lana is now too old for him and go trolling for another 20 year old Ukranian hottie who only wants his money.  

Edited May 18, 2020 by DEL901

[sasha206]

28 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Absolutely. The aloof, cautious woman we met in Russia looked completely unhinged and maniacal every step of the way, beginning with her submissive, beggarly texting of Geoff when he was leaving, and ending with her raving mad determination to "surprise" a man whom she pretty much rejected, and hadn't answered her in weeks.

It takes burning hot zealotry to purchase an expensive plane ticket (Varya doesn't look like she's rolling in rubles) and board three flights across the world supercharged by the conviction that her arrival will be a delight, and optimistically only signing up for one night at the hotel.

Why, but of course there is no doubt that nippy-tat wife beater is all ready and set up for to host a visitor for two whole weeks, at a time not of his choosing.

Wearing dull lip stain, a cheap turtleneck and mismatched costume jewelry, our fanatical anti-heroine sets out on her futile pursuit of a dick wrapped in a green card. It's now or never.

The coy woman who frustrated Geoff by not giving up the pussy on the first night of his visit now is counting down the seconds until she can fall over and roll on his stoop spread-eagle  for a hard core schtupping under his dog's watchful eye.

City girl pining for the bright lights of American cities, where even the smallest hamlet is a utopic New York City and Las Vegas combined, seemed to notice that the long taxi ride kept going deeper and deeper down into Tennessee's Little Siberia, and away from The Strip on Fifth Avenue. None of that disappointment chipped away at her compulsive journey to win back "her man" who has already settled for thirsty Mary (who seemed not to believe what Geoff was selling, but moved in anyway).

Ding! Dong! It's all ding and no dong for the Russian Stalker.

It's unfortunate that my recording stopped right as SpidermanPointingAtHimself.gif appeared on my screen, and Geoff's girlfriend asked Geoff's girlfriend that the F she was doing there.

Only one of these ladies with self-desctructing taste in men deserves the bitter surprise. The other should have seen something like this coming.

I side eyed Varya from the beginning.  I think she did a Stephanie on him.  That in her texts, she was in love, gave him the impression that his visit was a formality for their future together.  That's why I think he was so shocked that she didn't want to get engaged and that's why he reacted the way he did.   He's a pig, but I didn't think he was gaslighting in his response.

That said, he withheld a whammy of info and should have expected that she needed time to process.  But I think he thought in that moment that she'd never end up coming around and decided it would be better to end it.  He wasn't wrong on that.  He also wasn't wrong, in my mind, of not returning her texts.  He ended the relationship there.  She took a big risk in making the producer drive trip to TN not realizing he can't be single for a hot minute?  He gets rejected and then moves right onto the woman he's friend zoned for years.  

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by sasha206

[AZChristian]

I could almost feel comfortable with the divorce decree being e-mailed if it went from a York, Pennsylvania government e-mail address to the marriage certificate government e-mail address in Nigeria.  But not straight to BGL, who would then print it out and carry it to the Nigerian office.

Or even faxed from York to Nigeria government offices.  But it should NOT go through BGL's hands.

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, configdotsys said:

I wondered if Lana's "bosses" at the web cam boiler room learned of David an a camera crew sniffing around and thought it could be bad for business if Lana was shown to be a mirage so they sent her to meet the man loser behind the "mmmms" and the ugly trenchcoat

I don't understand this either. What was the point of putting her on the show? Every week it's been "I've never seen him on cam but I believe him." Then her kids telling her she's being catfished. "Oh I don't think so." And on and on and on. More evidence she is being a blind fool that she chooses to ignore. It makes me crazy to see such desperate women. 

Ash is going to wind up the winner here. Avery will visit every now and again and he'll bang everything that walks while she's gone. She's another fool. I was disappointed in her as I thought she had a backbone.

What to say about Lisa other than what everyone else has said. Such a vile, disgusting pig. This is the price Usman is willing to pay to get the US though so I don't feel bad for him. He needs to really call her bluff. He stands up to her which is good but he should say, "You have 50 mens waiting for you? Then go." More fun would be if he channeled Darcy: "YOU NEVER LOVED ME! GET OUT OF MY LIFE." When she goes on about his faults again he can just say, "Work on yourself, babe."

Was glad to see Ed hurt. It's hard to say that because it sucks to be hurt but Ed needed a punch in the gut because that is the way he made Rose feel, repeatedly. He's a gross pig and a loser and deserved to be kicked to the curb. Hopefully Rose blocked him and does not engage with him again.

I don't care about Erika and Stephanie. It's like the Yolanda thing: every week the same thing repeats itself over and over and nothing is accomplished or moves forward. Not interested! See ya!

I didn't buy for one minute that Lisa could call and get a divorce decree emailed. An emailed document would have no raised seal of the clerk or any manner of authentication attached to it. Not to mention she could be anyone on the phone. If they wanted to be a little more authentic, couldn't she have called home and told someone to go through her papers, find the decree, and scan it to her via email? An agency of any type is not going to do that. Oh, and I nearly vomited at all the loud kissy face shit they did while still on the phone. Gross. 

At the very least ash will be banging Sian with reckless abandon.  I don't buy that they didn't divorce in a decade because no one had the time.  

First, I don't know what community property laws are in Australia, but not for one minute would I want to be financially tied to someone like ash unless forced.....better to get divorced so you're not liable for his bankruptcies and poor financial decisions. 

Second, Sian seems like a really nice and normal woman.  If she wasn't into ash, I would think she'd want a divorce so she could move on and start dating, with the freedom to marry if she wants. 

These are two reasons that I suspect Sian is still really into ash, and therefore he will be able to hit her up for a romp anytime.  

As for Avery, her plan is dumb and she is really pretty.  If she looked like BGL I could maybe see that working.  But I think she is going to meet someone local, who is less work and she is going to bounce.  

Ash has her dickmatized, and when she is away from the dick it's going to be much more difficult for him to keep her in line. 

[Gobi]

45 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I noticed the same thing.  How does a camera crew with a total stranger come walk onto the property and there's no barking?  No fear at all?  How does that happen?  They didn't appear to know her either -- they weren't excited to see her.  My mid-size dog would scare the shit out of someone walking onto my property.

Dave's $100K would've been better spent fixing Lana's teeth.

Could be that it was the same film crew that followed Geoffrey for his segments, and that's why the dogs didn't react.

[Zevious Zoquis]

I'm surprised at how disappointed I am by Varya showing up at Geoffrey's door.  Fuck you TLC can't we have any real heroes??

[sasha206]

8 minutes ago, Gobi said:

Could be that it was the same film crew that followed Geoffrey for his segments, and that's why the dogs didn't react.

That's true.  They just didn't seem all that happy/excited to see the film crew either if they've been around enough they are comfortable with them! 

Edited May 18, 2020 by sasha206

[RealReality]

3 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

I side eyed Varya from the beginning.  I think she did a Stephanie on him.  That in her texts, she was in love, gave him the impression that his visit was a formality for their future together.  That's why I think he was so shocked that she didn't want to get engaged and that's why he reacted the way he did.   He's a pig, but I didn't think he was gaslighting in his response.

That said, he withheld a whammy of info and should have expected that she needed time to process.  But I think he thought in that moment that she'd never end up coming around and decided it would be better to end it.  He wasn't wrong on that.  He also wasn't wrong, in my mind, of returning her texts.  He ended the relationship there.

Of course, the bigger question for me is why can't these people be single for a hot minute?  He gets rejected and then moves right onto the woman he's friend zoned for years.  

If that's the case, he must have given her the same impression only to show up and be angry that she was "just using him for a green card"

It's hard for me to understand why anyone thinks meeting in person is a mere formality. 

Even in Stephanie's case...I think you're 100% right, in that I think there was a lot of "sexting" in their online communications.  But, clearly the chemistry wasn't there in person.  Stephanie did a terrible job of communicating that, but I don't think it's wrong that she felt that way. 

There is a difference between real life, when the rubber hits the road and you're face to face with a man and his fucked up nipple tattoos and criminal past and the fantasy world of an online relationship.

I didn't see varya as being weird, I saw her as being contemplative, smart and confident enough to avoid any of Geoffrey's mind games.    

1 minute ago, Zevious Zoquis said:

I'm surprised at how disappointed I am by Varya showing up at Geoffrey's door.  Fuck you TLC can't we have any real heroes??

Right?  Must every woman be Darcy desperate?  

17 minutes ago, Gobi said:

It's sad to realize that Porn Star Granny looks better than Darcey.

LOL, and it's not even a close race.  PSG looks MUCH better than Darcy. 

[RealReality]

43 minutes ago, futurechemist said:

My husband and I are split on Varya.  He thinks she was making a grand, but doomed, romantic gesture.  I think she was acting like a stalker who didn't get the message from Geoffrey ghosting her.

EIther way, she seemed like 1 of the more sensible people on this season - not trying to scam a green card, not hiding a dark past, not being a complete idiot.

Watching pillow talk, I'm wondering why the most recent seasons across the franchise have had such a low success rate.  There's 2 episodes left and it seems that every couple has either already broken up or been revealed as a catfish.  I miss seeing actual couples who are legitimately dating and navigating the immigration process.

If varyas story is real, I have to call it creepy stalker.  Stalking someone isn't a grand romantic gesture .....it's stalking.  

It's easier to brush past it when women do it to a guy, but it's no less creepy.  

He clearly isn't responding to texts and emails and calls, so you KNOW he doesn't want to talk to you.  He didn't give you his address so you could come and visit.  He didn't ask you to visit and he doesn't want to see you.  Respect that the same way he respected your decision not to marry (yes, he was an over the top crybaby about it, but he didn't follow her home).  

[sasha206]

17 minutes ago, RealReality said:

If that's the case, he must have given her the same impression only to show up and be angry that she was "just using him for a green card"

It's hard for me to understand why anyone thinks meeting in person is a mere formality. 

Even in Stephanie's case...I think you're 100% right, in that I think there was a lot of "sexting" in their online communications.  But, clearly the chemistry wasn't there in person.  Stephanie did a terrible job of communicating that, but I don't think it's wrong that she felt that way. 

There is a difference between real life, when the rubber hits the road and you're face to face with a man and his fucked up nipple tattoos and criminal past and the fantasy world of an online relationship.

I didn't see varya as being weird, I saw her as being contemplative, smart and confident enough to avoid any of Geoffrey's mind games.    

Right?  Must every woman be Darcy desperate?  

LOL, and it's not even a close race.  PSG looks MUCH better than Darcy. 

Oh I totally agree about meeting someone being a mere formality.  I have a GF who is extremely smart, contemplative, confident...yet she started online dating and there were at least 3 that she had the future talks with before ever meeting them in person.  I mean, one of them she said she wasn't going to be an uninvolved stepmother to his kids. He had already told the kids about her.  To her credit, in 2 of the 3, she broke it off with them after their first date b/c of course in person they turned out much different than she had anticipated (one was drunk before she showed up).  

Varya showing up like she did, super excited to see her "Prince" and to win him back, tells me she more than likely was talking about a future with him in those messages before meeting him.  She seems to only have been contemplative about him and his major issues while he was there and then went back to fantasy land.

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by sasha206

[SunnyBeBe]

5 minutes ago, RealReality said:

If varyas story is real, I have to call it creepy stalker.  Stalking someone isn't a grand romantic gesture .....it's stalking.  

It's easier to brush past it when women do it to a guy, but it's no less creepy.  

He clearly isn't responding to texts and emails and calls, so you KNOW he doesn't want to talk to you.  He didn't give you his address so you could come and visit.  He didn't ask you to visit and he doesn't want to see you.  Respect that the same way he respected your decision not to marry (yes, he was an over the top crybaby about it, but he didn't follow her home).  

I agree.  Showing up at a former lover's house AFTER they have told you they are moving on and UNannounced and uninvited is just plain crazy, that's why I think it's staged by the producers and likely all parties were in on it.  No way, she would have approached those dogs, without being told it was safe.  Plus, for two weeks, she'd have had more luggage.  Nothing about it rings true to me, but, if it is true, it's creepy and unacceptable.  Shame on TLC for promoting it. 

Edited May 18, 2020 by SunnyBeBe

[sasha206]

24 minutes ago, RealReality said:

 As for Avery, her plan is dumb and she is really pretty.  If she looked like BGL I could maybe see that working.  But I think she is going to meet someone local, who is less work and she is going to bounce.  

Ash has her dickmatized, and when she is away from the dick it's going to be much more difficult for him to keep her in line. 

I'm just hoping she decided that it would be better to coddle him right now and make him think there's still a possibility of this being able to work rather than argue with him.  Then once she leaves, she'll lower the boom from afar.  

[TrininisaScorp]

47 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Or a puny guy Big Ed.

Totally agree.  I'm Trinidadian.  I get "tall gyal" all the time by my family.  I'm 5 ft even. Assholes. LOL.

What the actual fuck did these ppl do to Varya?!  Compared to her sensible behavior in Russia, she was downright manic here.  What WAS THAT?  My husband and I joking about it being Rocky vs. Drago, but when the prize is that creepy, scum Geoffrey, the analogy really loses something. 

We had a long conversation at my house about Jesse and Tom.  They are literally riding on the coattails of Darcy.  She is sad and pathetic enough (and really needs some therapy), but these two skeevy fucks are worse than bottom feeders.  It is so fascinating. 

Big Ed is ded to Mr Trini and I.  Fuck that guy.  

I agree with so many of your comments about David and Lana.  She can barely stand to be there with him.  She's got her eye on the prize (America and a Sephora's). 

I like Avery and she seems to be a mostly reasonable person by the standards that this show provides, but DAMN, she lets Ash get away with a lot.  His bullshit, shirtless, lip biting explanations are terrible.  This is clearly a man who has never had to answer to a woman for anything in his whole useless ass life.  And his gigolo skills totally has her sprung on that d. 

Baby Girl Lisa is a gross pig.  Please universe, never put her and MAGAngela in the same room.  They would either be BFFs and take us all out, or they would kill each other.  I don't want to know. 2020 has been enough already. 

Edited May 18, 2020 by TrininisaScorp

[mamadrama]

11 hours ago, Ucross said:

She's not, now.

We didn't know that until last night...

[Zevious Zoquis]

32 minutes ago, RealReality said:

If that's the case, he must have given her the same impression only to show up and be angry that she was "just using him for a green card"

It's hard for me to understand why anyone thinks meeting in person is a mere formality. 

Even in Stephanie's case...I think you're 100% right, in that I think there was a lot of "sexting" in their online communications.  But, clearly the chemistry wasn't there in person.  Stephanie did a terrible job of communicating that, but I don't think it's wrong that she felt that way. 

There is a difference between real life, when the rubber hits the road and you're face to face with a man and his fucked up nipple tattoos and criminal past and the fantasy world of an online relationship.

I didn't see varya as being weird, I saw her as being contemplative, smart and confident enough to avoid any of Geoffrey's mind games.    

 

 

So true!  In my online dating adventure before "hitting paydirt," I had what I would have to describe as remarkable success.  I'm an introvert and not exactly brimming with self-confidence.  Prior to a couple years ago, the idea of meeting women on a dating app would have been pretty much a non-starter for me.  But, once I made the leap and put up a profile, I realized pretty quickly that I had a few things in my favor.  I'm in decent shape and look young for my 53 years.  I've always been thin - but over the past few years I've gained a few pounds.  I'm still thin, but no longer "skinny."  I have no vices.  Non-smoker, social drinker, no drugs, no meds of any sort.  Also, I write well...which made it easy for me to get past the first few messages where a lot of guys maybe get filtered out because they say something stupid.  So, I got some good pics of myself (after doing a bit of research on what sorts of pics might work best) - and honestly, even though I'm not in a big city I had success right off the bat.  I met probably a dozen women over a year or so, and I'd say 4 of them had "real potential" - meaning both parties were into each other even after meeting.  Frankly the whole experience was a pretty big ego boost for me.  

Here's the thing though - probably 10 of the 12 cases had a really fantastic text message preamble before the first date.  Based on the week to 2 weeks of chat that occurred prior to setting a date there really seemed to be a great connection.  But 6 out of those 10 upon meeting pretty much just fizzled immediately.  All that great build-up just went up in smoke.  And in every case, even the one that "stuck", the initial meeting was at least a little awkward and uncomfortable.  You just don't really know anything until you actually meet.  

Although, the one that worked was very close to that.  It was pretty magical from chat to reality and that intitial awkwardness didn't last long...so it can actually work peeps!  lol...

Edited May 18, 2020 by Zevious Zoquis

[sasha206]

I was just worried Varya was never going to make it to Geoffrey's house with the way her driver was tailgating.

[mamadrama]

11 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I agree.  Showing up at a former lover's house AFTER they have told you they are moving on and UNannounced and uninvited is just plain crazy, that's why I think it's staged by the producers and likely all parties were in on it.  No way, she would have approached those dogs, without being told it was safe.  Plus, for two weeks, she'd have had more luggage.  Nothing about it rings true to me, but, if it is true, it's creepy and unacceptable.  Shame on TLC for promoting it. 

It's also REALLY hard for Russians to get tourist visas and, when they do, it can take months. I think Sharp brought her over on a temporary work visa. We used to bring Russian workers over here on them all the time when I worked at the resort. They're inexpensive for a company like that, incredibly easy to get, and the whole thing can be processed in a few weeks. You can get one that's only good for a short amount of time, it's not a permanent one that allows them to stay here for good.

[procrasstinator]

8 hours ago, renatae said:

 

 Heaven help us, "Win a date with Jesse."

 

 

Was that meant to be a threat or what?  I think I might be traumatized from hearing that over and over again!

[1011101010001]

10 minutes ago, TrininisaScorp said:

Baby Girl Lisa is a gross pig.  Please universe, never put her and MAGAngela in the same room.  They would either be BFFs and take us all out, or they would kill each other.  I don't want to know. 2020 has been enough already.

Sign me up for a pay per view cage match between Lisa and Angela!

[mamadrama]

Just now, procrasstinator said:

Was that meant to be a threat or what?  I think I might be traumatized from hearing that over and over again!

I tweeted "Okay who's gonna volunteer to take one for the team and go on a date with him? We'll do a GFM to set up some aftercare therapy for you."

Someone tweeted back, "I feel like you're asking us to volunteer as tribute for the Hunger Games..."

Honestly, I would rather take my chances with the bow and arrow.

[1011101010001]

5 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

It's also REALLY hard for Russians to get tourist visas and, when they do, it can take months. I think Sharp brought her over on a temporary work visa. We used to bring Russian workers over here on them all the time when I worked at the resort. They're inexpensive for a company like that, incredibly easy to get, and the whole thing can be processed in a few weeks. You can get one that's only good for a short amount of time, it's not a permanent one that allows them to stay here for good.

Maybe that is how Olga was working in Ocean City.

[Mrs. Hanson]

44 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

I could almost feel comfortable with the divorce decree being e-mailed if it went from a York, Pennsylvania government e-mail address to the marriage certificate government e-mail address in Nigeria.  But not straight to BGL, who would then print it out and carry it to the Nigerian office.

Or even faxed from York to Nigeria government offices.  But it should NOT go through BGL's hands.

I am sorry if I am not letting this divorce decree/faxing thing go, but as someone in education where we use only initials, send everything through US mail (no IEP's during home delivery of materials of times of COVID) and things need to be mailed to us, I am having issues with what is being presented:  Could someone call up the courts here, say they are me and get my divorce decree faxed to them?

[procrasstinator]

6 hours ago, blubld43 said:

 

Lana is in NO way young, impoverished, or house bound.  How will David explain this?

But nothing in the past even matters...
 

We’ve already seen that David is not interested in examining the evidence even when he pays a detective to investigate.  And see he will say no one believed she was real and he was right.  So no one believes she loves him for real....

Get out your wallet David it’s going to take a lot of shopping trips to keep this woman at your side bracing for the next hug to be inflicted upon her.

[humbleopinion]

Levels of Desperation- 90D Before Season 4

10-Darcy Desperate...Undisputed Champ of Neediness and TeeVee Ho-Dom

9-Varya (came in HOT.... moved up the chart by showing up in Knoxtown on her knees begging...stay down there, hands folded in your naked lap and wait for Mr. Grey....)

8-Mary...Her va jay jay has a weakness for a certain ex con

7-Tom...his stupid airport outfit was a scream for attention

6-David...props for getting it done, you met her.....now what?  It's gonna cost you.

5-YoLa...It cost TLC at least 20K and 10 appearances of her and her Fam  to play this dumb....cash those checks and go away...

4-🥚, aware he lost the audience with his selfish and pissy entitled attitude, no one believes there was anything more than a amorous handshake....

3-SJB...he lusts after 'Merica and unfortunately goes through BGL's Downtown

2-Stacey...she needs to stop doing matching surgery with Darce

1-Lana...Stellar employee at the Calling Center, Leave her alone....

 

*Did not watch one whit of the 2 Broke Girls so unable to rate the gals....

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by humbleopinion

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

2 hours ago, Kareem said:

 Century 21 gold shirt.  

OMG good call that is EXACTLY the color! 

1 hour ago, futurechemist said:

My husband and I are split on Varya.  He thinks she was making a grand, but doomed, romantic gesture.  I think she was acting like a stalker who didn't get the message from Geoffrey ghosting her.

 

I am back and forth. If let's say Big Ed went back to Thailand after Rose told him she was Mother Debbie "done", to "Surprise" Rose and a fist fight erupted between Big Ed and a current love interest of Rose- we would be talking about law enforcement getting involved. 

Even under my own lens I hold a double standard.  A man doing it and a fistfight between two men about it, is more serious than a Varya a woman making a romantic gesture. I even find myself giving Varya the benefit of the doubt more than if the gender roles were reversed.  If were a man I would DEF say stalker. Given it's Varya I find myself less likely to do so. So yeah that's not good. Sigh.  Just' sayin. 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[procrasstinator]

5 hours ago, cynicat said:

 

Oh, and there's an honorary mention for Erika's mom.  She made me want a hug from her too!.  I'm no youngster but I never tired of getting a hug from my mommy right up until she was no longer around.  A Mom's hug may nudge out a pint of Ben and Jerry's cookie dough ice cream as the best way to get over a break up.

Yes Erika’s mom also is a beautiful soul which is why I’m convinced Erika will be just fine.  No therapy needed for her just growing up and the hugs and support of her mum.

[AZChristian]

1 minute ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Could someone call up the courts here, say they are me and get my divorce decree faxed to them?

Would you be more comfortable if there were an official process by which someone from a government e-mail address asked for the copy?  And the copies could only be sent from a responding government site to a government official in the requesting jurisdiction.

When my brother died, his doctor's office had access to the county website to fill out the death certificate online; once the crematorium logged into that same website to confirm the death certificate had been "signed," they proceeded with scheduling the cremation.  The only time paper copies were printed out were from the crematorium at our request, to use for closing out his estate.  And I did have to prove that I was his next of kin.

So much is done electronically these days that paper copies seem to be the exception, rather than the norm.  But I do agree that there needs to be an official process involved, not just "Jane Doe" on the telephone asking them to send a copy of her divorce decree to her personal e-mail address.

[spunky]

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

Or a puny guy Big Ed.

I forgot about that clown

[RealReality]

5 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

OMG good call that is EXACTLY the color! 

I am back and forth. If let's say Big Ed went back to Thailand after Rose told him she was Mother Debbie "done", to "Surprise" Rose and a fist fight erupted between Big Ed and a current love interest of Rose- we would be talking about law enforcement getting involved. 

Even under my own lens I hold a double standard.  A man doing it and a fistfight between two men about it, is more serious than a Varya a woman making a romantic gesture. I even find myself giving Varya the benefit of the doubt more than if the gender roles were reversed.  If were a man I would DEF say stalker. Given it's Varya I find myself less likely to do so. So yeah that's not good. Sigh.  Just' sayin. 

I totally agree.  When I was thinking about it, I really made an effort to take off those social/gender filters and look at it objectively.  Varya is young and pretty and a woman, so it's really easy to see some 2010 rom com.  

But objectively, no....it's creepy stalker.  

And really a special kind of unacceptable that she brought all her luggage.  

[procrasstinator]

2 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I am back and forth. If let's say Big Ed went back to Thailand after Rose told him she was Mother Debbie "done", to "Surprise" Rose and a fist fight erupted between Big Ed and a current love interest of Rose- we would be talking about law enforcement getting involved. 

Even under my own lens I hold a double standard.  A man doing it and a fistfight between to men about it, is more serious than a Varya a woman making a romantic gesture. I even find myself giving Varya the benefit of the doubt more than if the gender roles were reversed.  If were a man I would DEF say stalker. Given it's Varya I find myself less likely to do so. So yeah that's not good. Sigh.  Just' sayin. 

With Varya there was no list of transgressions like Rose had with Ed.  All Geoffrey had to complain about was his hurt pride that Varya second guessed their relationship something that could become less hurtful given some time and perspective.  They were a couple who were throwing the words love and soul mates around quite liberally-well too liberally maybe-so for Varya to attempt a grand romantic gesture is in keeping with their storyline.  She thinks she just has to prove her certainty to Geoffrey she doesn’t yet see he’s just a self-centered child determined to get his own way.

[humbleopinion]

Best case scenario:

Varya vacays with her felonious ex con for a long weekend then travels to TLC's NYC offices for an unpaid 2 month internship as reward for being part of Geoffrey's storyline in a pre arranged deal for her acting services....

Edited May 18, 2020 by humbleopinion

[deirdra]

10 hours ago, antfitz said:

Somebody said they thought TLC hired Lana to show up. And I believe it, because she sure didn't look into it.

Lana appears to be the person in the (stock) photos; her non-answers were probably not a reluctance to speak, but she probably doesn't know the answers because she was not the person(s) communicating with David for 7 years.

Edited May 18, 2020 by deirdra

[poeticlicensed]

14 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Would you be more comfortable if there were an official process by which someone from a government e-mail address asked for the copy?  And the copies could only be sent from a responding government site to a government official in the requesting jurisdiction.

When my brother died, his doctor's office had access to the county website to fill out the death certificate online; once the crematorium logged into that same website to confirm the death certificate had been "signed," they proceeded with scheduling the cremation.  The only time paper copies were printed out were from the crematorium at our request, to use for closing out his estate.  And I did have to prove that I was his next of kin.

So much is done electronically these days that paper copies seem to be the exception, rather than the norm.  But I do agree that there needs to be an official process involved, not just "Jane Doe" on the telephone asking them to send a copy of her divorce decree to her personal e-mail address.

Dh needed a copy of his birth certificate to get a passport. He had to email scanned  copies, front and back, of his DL. 

[poeticlicensed]

6 minutes ago, deirdra said:

Lana appears to be the person in the (stock) photos; her non-answers were probably not a reluctance to speak, but she probably doesn't know the answers because she was not the person(s) communicating with David for 7 years.

Yep. I think those online "dating" services purchase or hire models to take photos that populate the website. Guessing she is a model (or some rendition of that) and is being paid to play a riole that she had no part of for the past 7 years. If she is 28, then that means she was 21 and looking for love. If the person on the other side of the screen was communicating for SEVEN years, you would think that she would have been pushing for years to meet up, not running away every time David arrived. 

[magemaud]

10 hours ago, the-grey-lady said:

Stephanie asked Erika to drive three hours so they could spend a few minutes sitting in uncomfortable silence, broken up by yet another of Stephanie's lame-ass apologies?

Stephanie: "Do you have anything else you want to say to me?"

Erika: "No" 

Stephanie, getting up to leave: "Reach out to me if you ever want to talk..." 

[crickets]

[Adeejay]

Lisa is a nasty, miserable woman.  “Pam” was not being difficult; she was doing her job.  On the bright side, Usman seems to realize that this is what he will be subjected to for however long.

Ed obviously thought that Rose would be waiting with open arms to accept his apology.  The look on his face when he realized that she was gone was priceless. 

I believe TLC was responsible for Varya’s uninvited trip to Knoxville.  Clearly, production knew that Mary was going to be there at that appointed hour and arranged the confrontation. 

[sasha206]

36 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Would you be more comfortable if there were an official process by which someone from a government e-mail address asked for the copy?  And the copies could only be sent from a responding government site to a government official in the requesting jurisdiction.

When my brother died, his doctor's office had access to the county website to fill out the death certificate online; once the crematorium logged into that same website to confirm the death certificate had been "signed," they proceeded with scheduling the cremation.  The only time paper copies were printed out were from the crematorium at our request, to use for closing out his estate.  And I did have to prove that I was his next of kin.

So much is done electronically these days that paper copies seem to be the exception, rather than the norm.  But I do agree that there needs to be an official process involved, not just "Jane Doe" on the telephone asking them to send a copy of her divorce decree to her personal e-mail address.

When my husband died, I was encouraged to buy more death certificates -- and I did.  I think I purchased 10 copies of it; can't remember the cost.  I think there were only a couple of times where I used the official printed out version of his death certificate, and in each case, a copy was made and the death certificate given back!  Scanned versions worked for nearly all of the beneficiary items.  

I'm sure funeral homes know this now, but it was a way for them to make more $$ off me!  And my mom, who does't understand technology, also encouraged me to make sure I had printed out versions so I didn't question the need when the funeral home sold them to me.

[magemaud]

6 hours ago, blubld43 said:

Anyone with eyes can see that Lana is not who she appeared to be in those photographs. 

maybe those photos were actually her but when she was 20 (the age she supposedly was when they first started chatting). David obviously sent her old pictures of himself.