S07.E08: Judgement Day

[Lizzing]

6 hours ago, DanaMB said:

I can't believe how excited I was to see the Publix Chocolate Ganache cake. 😂

Probably as excited I was to see the Costco tiramisu!  Almost got one last week, but opted for the tres leches instead.

Jasmin & Blake are so dull.  I don't even know how they made the cut for the show.  Was there not one other couple out there who were more exciting than this?  I don't have high hope that something entertaining will come out of their story.

So Mursel continued to lie to his parents, in "telling the truth" about Anna's boys.  He let them believe that he only found out she had kids once he got to the US.  He is a total shitheel and Anna should be embarrassed she ever brought him over.

I've think that Natalie & her mom's apartment is fake.  There is no personal touch anywhere--no pictures anywhere, no religious iconography, no decorations of any kind.  Hardly any furniture anywhere, nothing on the counter, nada.  Gotta be AirBnB.

[Drogo]

Happy birtday to all yall.

*Personally if I couldn't find a second H" I would've opted for a pirate-themed APPY BIRTHDAY to go with the booty Anny was so keen on scouting.

[Angel pie]

8 hours ago, PityFree said:

 And I’ll say it every week that Angela brings it up, but there is no way on earth she is a net positive tax payer.  That woman is and is going to be a drain on the system  no matter what she claims.

She has to pay tax on her earnings from this show and her other "job", but gets it back at tax time. Big deal.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Angel pie

[greekmom]

8 hours ago, endure said:

Just don’t send her to Canada 🇨🇦 

Canada doesn't want her and Grangela wouldn't like it here. We are too socialist for her taste.

Blake and Jasmin are so boring.

I wish someone who spoke Turkish translated what the parents were saying to Mursel. Do they really hate Anna that much??? Why??  Cannot be because of the kids.  They supposedly said that they never approved from the beginning.

Robert is an ass.

[MajorNelson]

Put some 'pep in your step' as you wish me to have a good time out clubbing. 

Oh Brotherrrr!

 

[SevenCostanza]

23 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

Put some 'pep in your step' as you wish me to have a good time out clubbing. 

Oh Brotherrrr!

 

I hate her and her mother "Don't drink my whiskey!"   How would she feel if the situation was reversed?  Would she be happy with a  pep in her step if Syngin was going out with the guys to a club to dance with other women?  

Edited December 23, 2019 by SevenCostanza

[Zevious Zoquis]

I agree with the notion that Mike and Natalie will never get on in light of the religious beliefs.  I think it would be fine if neither of them was strongly religious, but since she actually pretends to be "deeply religious" (I mean lets face it...she's willing to fore-go the piety in order to get preggers with a dude she isn't married to and who isn't even a christian) it just isn't going to work.  She'll never stop trying to convert him and if they do have kids there will be constant conflicts over the issue.   I know I'd have a really tough time living with someone who considered themselves deeply religious.  It makes me uncomfortable...

Edited December 23, 2019 by Zevious Zoquis

[GrannySmith]

9 hours ago, PityFree said:

 And I’ll say it every week that Angela brings it up, but there is no way on earth she is a net positive tax payer.  That woman is and is going to be a drain on the system  no matter what she claims.

She probably gets paid as a foster parent for her  grandchildren belonging to the daughter in jail, and they would be eligible for Medicaid. She may be paid as a caretaker for her mother as well.  It’s cheaper for the state to pay relatives than professional caretakers. 

[Cammi]

So the most common foundations for marriage are: kids, money. and religion (or lack of religious beliefs). These are usually the most common stressors in marriage. Natalie and her oak tree have problems with all three. Not exactly a match imo. 

Also, I am not a Christian, but my friends are that watch with me say that a true Christian believes God will not send them a non believing soulmate. Not to say that someone can't meet a person and introduce them to Jesus (or whatever), but Mike has already told Natalie his religious stance and beliefs. It's a no go! Respect it and move on. If she is truly a "Christian", then her god will find her a godly man. No? Unless hundreds of years of Christianity has changed overnight? 

Anna and Mursel just aren't entertaining anymore. His parents really didn't know about her kids? And she went to Turkey and met his family??? What kind of Mom doesn't show her in-laws pics of her kids? Wtf? 

This season is so boring. I watched maybe 30 minutes. I just come here to read what you guys have to say. Ya'll are oodles more interesting than this cast!

[Bryce Lynch]

9 hours ago, PityFree said:

 Oh also did anyone else shout “that’s all??” at the TV when Michael revealed his “staggering” debt was $30,000???  I think $30,000 is manageable (depending on the terms of the loans, of course). Michael seems to have a good work ethic and IIRC, I think some of his debt is from acquiring the property he now lives on. 

I'd imagine the $30,000 is only his credit card debt.  He might owe more on a mortgage on the tree farm   

[Starlight925]

The thing with Mike & Natalie is that it's not just about religion.  It's about control.  Natalie needs to be able to control Mike, to tell him to stop eating meat, to make him exercise, to make him want to have children NOW, to make him want to believe and go to church.  Religion is just the pouty argument du jour.  

She bats her eyelashes and falls into the arms of her big, strong man, he gets hot makeup sex, and he wakes up to a breakfast of soy patties and a morning jog.  Rinse, repeat.

Her mother is so uncomfortably clingy.  The way she was laying in bed, spooning Natalie, while Mike was trying to talk to her, was bizarre.  Mom, drugstore, stat, for some Rogaine.  Yes, we all saw your bald spot, probably worn clean from pulling your hair out with that bunny boiler of a daughter you have there.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Sterling

[Mr. Miner]

I think Mike will end up miserable with this loon, no matter the amount of his debt.

[Bryce Lynch]

29 minutes ago, SevenCostanza said:

I hate her and her mother "Don't drink my whiskey!"   How would she feel if the situation was reversed?  Would she be happy with a  pep in her step if Syngin was going out with the guys to a club to dance with other women?  

I hate Tania, but I don't hate Mother Tania.  She wasn't a jerk about Syngin drinking her whisky.  She just told him not to drink it, unless he was going to go to the store to replace it.   

I can only imagine how Tania would react if Syngin was off somewhere partying every night and couldn't even promise to call when he gets home, to let her know he is OK. 

[Starlight925]

1 minute ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I hate Tania, but I don't hate Mother Tania.  She wasn't a jerk about Syngin drinking her whisky.  She just told him not to drink it, unless he was going to go to the store to replace it.   

I can only imagine how Tania would react if Syngin was off somewhere partying every night and couldn't even promise to call when he gets home, to let her know he is OK. 

I totes agree.  Syngin's living in her house for free, and while I think she could have phrased it better or more nicely, her stuff is.....her stuff.

Her daughter, OTOH, is horrible.  No words.  Oh yeah, I do have words:  one-piece swimsuit, my darling.

[seacliffsal]

This season is more infuriating than entertaining to me.  Anna actively hid her sons from Murcel's parents-it wasn't just him.  She visited a couple of times and did not mention them to his family.  She continued to hide them until she changed her mind.  Quite frankly I think they're a perfect match...and the boys need to find a safe haven where they will be acknowledged, loved, and supported.

Tania and her mom are treating Syngin as if he's a pet or something.  As for the whiskey-Syngin is working in her yard, fixing things, and at her beck and call.  He is certainly earning any whiskey and tiramisu cake that he wants.  As for Tania and her new best friends-they need to get over their arrogance that they know everything and everyone else knows nothing.  And, yep, finding herself in the ocean, on the beach, and in clubs is far more important to Tania than her relationship.

Natalie is out and out crazy and manipulative.  I believe that she has learned that whenever she doesn't get what she wants she should just have a tantrum.  Her mother probably always gave in to her "golden child."  And, her mom needs to just stay out of her relationship with Mike.  Natalie has it down-the looking up through her eyelashes, the cuddling, the crying, etc.  I was disappointed in Mike in that he did give in pretty easily for how awful Natalie had been to him.  The issue isn't religion, having a child, etc., the issue is her manipulation and efforts at control.  Oh, and the other issue is that it seemed like he was wandering around in her pajama bottoms.

Are almost all the men named Michael or am I forgetting their real names because I'm not fully invested in this season?  Anyway, Michael, whose kids are everything to him, couldn't even pay attention to Max and Cece at the rock wall.  Juliana sure got what she wanted, but I really hope that Sarah comes back to protect Max and Cece.  Otherwise Michael will never know what happened when all of him money starts making its way to Brazil and he is left with nothing. 

I was so excited when Michael's visa was denied as I thought that would permanently end Angela's presence on this show.  But, nope, I saw the previews.  It's interesting to me that for as few taxes as Angela probably pays, she sure is quick to demand her "taxpayer's" rights.  As if.

Robert and Anny are just tiring to me.  Send her back or don't.  

Edited December 23, 2019 by seacliffsal

[calpurnia99]

Has anyone said to Juliana: If we get divorced, you are entitled to half my money, so the pre-nup is a way to insure that you don't get half, you get less? This sounds like shit, but IS the purpose, that she not get what the law may entitle her to. But they keep beating around the bush- talking about "protecting the kids" but not spelling it out.

 A friend of mine married a guy with a lot of family money.  Old money. It  was a second marriage for both. His family insisted on a pre nup as they didn't trust her. They didn't want her getting her hands on their money if the marriage failed quickly. However, the pre-nup was set up so that if the marriage lasted 8 or 10 years, it was null and void. After 5 years she got more, it was graduated like that. They have a child now and have been married 20 years. 

Trying to keep telling Juliana in plain terms what the pre-nup means, is why she is all confused. Tell her: It's to make sure you are not entitled to half - or whatever the law states, if we get divorced in 2 years. Period.

Edited December 23, 2019 by calpurnia99

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, Zevious Zoquis said:

I agree with the notion that Mike and Natalie will never get on in light of the religious beliefs.  I think it would be fine if neither of them was strongly religious, but since she actually pretends to be "deeply religious" (I mean lets face it...she's willing to fore-go the piety in order to get preggers with a dude she isn't married to and who isn't even a christian) it just isn't going to work.  She'll never stop trying to convert him and if they do have kids there will be constant conflicts over the issue.   I know I'd have a really tough time living with someone who considered themselves deeply religious.  It makes me uncomfortable...

I havent seen the latest, but Mike seems so accommodating that I honestly think he'd have no problem having their future children raised in the Christian faith.  

He isn't trying to drag her to an alien temple or area 54 or get her to pray with him to some aliens.  I truly get the impression that he was drunk at dinner when he admitted his beliefs to Natalie's friend.  

I think be believes what he believes, but it's not a lifestyle he has to live.  

I do not understand her need to convert him.  He is willing to go to church with her to make her happy.  There are plenty of people who are christians who make it to church less than twice a year.  

This seems like something that could be an issue, but shouldn't be. He seems so accommodating and so it's weird that she is making this a problem.    IMO, her behavior is way more of a red flag 

[Hangin Out]

11 hours ago, DanaMB said:

Anny complains it's raining and she doesn't wan to get her hair wait.  Girl... you're in Florida. Get used to it. That was nothing.

In a real Florida downpour, she could have used those boobs for a flotation device.

[RealReality]

7 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

Has anyone said to Juliana: If we get divorced, you are entitled to half my money, so the pre-nup is a way to insure that you don't get half, you get less? This sounds like shit, but IS the purpose, that she not get what the law may entitle her to. But they keep beating around the bush- talking about "protecting the kids" but not spelling it out.

 A friend of mine married a guy with a lot of family money.  Old money. It  was a second marriage for both. His family insisted on a pre nup as they didn't trust her. They didn't want her getting her hands on their money if the marriage failed quickly. However, the pre-nup was set up so that if the marriage lasted 8 or 10 years, it was null and void. After 5 years she got more, it was graduated like that. They have a child now and have been married 20 years. 

Trying to keep telling Juliana in plain terms what the pre-nup means, is why she is all confused. Tell her: It's to make sure you are not entitled to half - or whatever the law states, if we get divorced in 2 years. Period.

This is why it's better for Michael and Sarah that Juliana have an independent attorney in the matter.  That person will explain it to her in clear and concise terms because that is their job and will advise her on her options. 

It just seems ridiculous to risk your assets by not taking such a simple step.  Let's be real, Juliana is going to sign whatever prenup is put in front of her because she is desperate.  Whether she is advised by an attorney or not.  But if she isn't advised by an attorney she has defenses built in and is already openly saying she doesn't understand the entire concept.  

[Hangin Out]

I swear .. out of all those dummies, I can’t stand whiney Natalie the most.  The girl needs psychiatric help and some serious meds.  If the guy takes her here, she will be crying for mama among other stupid things.  She does not make sense.

[calpurnia99]

Poor Micheal. His dream is to come to America. He put up with this abusive cow for all this time and now he can't come. She says "are you crying because you think you will lose me?" Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha NO! His dream is to come to US and now he can't and he put up with your fat Georgia Assface and abuse and getting cake thrown on him to reach his dream. It has nothing to do with you!

[Mrs. Hanson]

5 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

I swear .. out of all those dummies, I can’t stand whiney Natalie the most.  The girl needs psychiatric help and some serious meds.  If the guy takes her here, she will be crying for mama among other stupid things.  She does not make sense.

That is a bold statement, my friend, as we have Tonia in the mix.  Her mom should have offered to take Syngin to town and buy a bottle for him for all the free labor she is giving her.  Or he could have bought his own.

Natalie:  Epic control freak!!!

Robert:  Learn to spell happy birthday!!

[Callaphera]

I called Greenwich!Michael "Wino!Michael" last week but clearly that should be Sequim Mike's new nickname. Props, my dude, to bailing from your future mother-in-law's apartment at some point between breakfast and lunch and chugging down four beers like you're trying to win first place in the Day Drinking like Darcey Decathlon while doing your best hobo impression, wearing plaid pajama pants (and maybe slippers?) and sitting around a 40 gallon drum. Dude was half-cut in his outdoor talking heads. 

You thought the aliens were bad? Look upon thine future, Natalie, and cringe in Ukrainian Russian. 

[Spike]

5 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

That is a bold statement, my friend, as we have Tonia in the mix.  Her mom should have offered to take Syngin to town and buy a bottle for him for all the free labor she is giving her.  Or he could have bought his own.

Natalie:  Epic control freak!!!

Robert:  Learn to spell happy birthday!!

I think when someone is your guest (especially with no income) the food and beverage in your home should be available to them.  He needs permission to take one shot in his coffee and a slice of cake?  And he is supposed to be joining the family in the near future.  

[libgirl2]

9 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

Poor Micheal. His dream is to come to America. He put up with this abusive cow for all this time and now he can't come. She says "are you crying because you think you will lose me?" Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha NO! His dream is to come to US and now he can't and he put up with your fat Georgia Assface and abuse and getting cake thrown on him to reach his dream. It has nothing to do with you!

He kissed a-- all that time, had to sleep with her, put up with abuse and now this. Of course the guy is crying. This was all a waste of his time. On the bright side, maybe he can find someone better. 

[RealReality]

8 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

Poor Micheal. His dream is to come to America. He put up with this abusive cow for all this time and now he can't come. She says "are you crying because you think you will lose me?" Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha NO! His dream is to come to US and now he can't and he put up with your fat Georgia Assface and abuse and getting cake thrown on him to reach his dream. It has nothing to do with you!

I wonder how Michael's visa denial is going to square up with Angela's political leanings?  Whether you love or hate the current administration, they have been pretty clear about their policy about immigrants from certain countries and immigrants who aren't going to add "immediate value"

I think Angela should personally appeal to trump.  I mean, she is a trump supporter AND a tax payer.  

[Mrs. Hanson]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

I think when someone is your guest (especially with no income) the food and beverage in your home should be available to them.  He needs permission to take one shot in his coffee and a slice of cake?  And he is supposed to be joining the family in the near future.  

I agree, and feel she should buy him his own bottle and any other foods he likes.  Frankly I wanted Syngin to say, look lady your daughter is in an assless bikini dancing with locals and i am free lawn care plus power washing your shit, I otta chug this whole bottle you nagging hag!

[Callaphera]

Just now, RealReality said:

I think Angela should personally appeal to trump.  I mean, she is a trump supporter AND a tax payer. 

As a Tax Payer™, I demand to see a live feed of this Shit-Show of Epic Proportions on TLC. 

Okay so they're not American taxes but I did pay 15% taxes on my booze purchase at the liquor store last night so I should get something out of this. 

[Mrs. Hanson]

2 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

As a Tax Payer™, I demand to see a live feed of this Shit-Show of Epic Proportions on TLC. 

Okay so they're not American taxes but I did pay 15% taxes on my booze purchase at the liquor store last night so I should get something out of this. 

Someone needs to point out her other daughter is being 100 per cent supported by taxpayers in jail and her being a tax payer has no bearing on this matter.

Michael learned to be aggressive towards his friends from Angela!!!

[HelloOutThere]

- This cis white (gay) male does not accept “get woke” lectures from young ladies with their tits out who looked like they’ve been taking bong loads all day and can barely open her eyes, speak, or stand. Least of all from those “taking courses” that consist of shellacking make-up on and whoring out at the bar.  Miss Woke can miss me. 
 

- Mom Tania seems like she is a man hater. But more disturbing is her kitchen. Modern (though already dated) backsplash, old everything else. What looks like new shelving custom built to hold a ‘70s era stereo receiver. Maybe too much whisky while making construction decisions?
 

- LOLOL at Mykul’s friend saying “She’s trashy. Everyone can see it!” Truth, succinctly stated. 
 

- Thank you editors for lingering on Wine Michael’s creepy face right after his daughter said “You look like a teenager!” to Juliana in that jacket. Shade!

- Mama Natalie Terrifies me almost as much as Mama Grangela. She is like a ghost from a different dimension haunting all scenes she appears in, having her own brooding discussions with herself that nobody responds to. She reminds me of the mother in “The Exorcist” - “WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME?!”

- Although I hate Sasha as a person, his body is at least a tiny piece of eye candy. And we didn’t even get any this episode! 👎

 

[Hangin Out]

11 hours ago, PityFree said:

 I multitasked. I had the show playing  in the background  while I tried to make a batch of fortune cookies. I also wrapped all of my nephew dogs xmas gifts. But I also have the fortune of being able to work from home tomorrow so I don’t have to factor in a commute and can sleep in a little later.

 Now the only comment I have about the show so far is that I’m surprised that no one—including any of the pillow talk people—said anything about poor Chloe, who climbed the wall twice and her dad never even bothered to look up to watch her do it.  Bad job, wine douche dad!!

 Oh also I think it’s a huge red flag when your future mother-in-law won’t share her whiskey with you!!!

 Also, Tonya and her Costa Rican friends all needed bras. 

Crapshoot show is right.  What I want to know is why all these couples knew nothing about each other before they came here.  What were they talking about on the phone or internet?  Everything comes as a surprise now that they are here.  BTW, you wrapped doggie presents?  That’s the cutest thing I’ve ever heard.  I just lost my grand dog Lucy after 13 yrs and my heart is broken.
 

 

[Mrs. Hanson]

3 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

Crapshoot show is right.  What I want to know is why all these couples knew nothing about each other before they came here.  What were they talking about on the phone or internet?  Everything comes as a surprise now that they are here.  BTW, you wrapped doggie presents?  That’s the cutest thing I’ve ever heard.  I just lost my grand dog Lucy after 13 yrs and my heart is broken.
 

 

I think all of their conversations consist of: "Oh I love you baby!  I miss you my love!" followed by ending face time!!

Tonia's mom's kitchen:  the clutter gave me major stress!!!  The pantry was so cluttered, too!!!

[Hangin Out]

11 hours ago, endure said:

I’ m thinking the Russian woman should be on some medication she’s giving me fatal attraction vibes.

Yeah .. she does have that same hair.  She belongs in a mental institution.  When she’s upset, which is about every five minutes, she runs and snuggles to mommy like a two year old.  If he doesn’t see the signs, he’s just as stupid.  Hope there’s no rabbits on his farm.

[Hangin Out]

10 hours ago, Boston said:

I have to speak up about ANGELA talking about how she is a taxpayer.. she is NOT.. IF,(as we have heard .. she is on section 8).. if that is true she pays a portion of her rent.. I don't know HOW she is keeping those kids.. and when you are on section 8 YOU DON'T PAY TAXES.. (from someone who worked for the government).. 

Section 8.  Blue nails and cigarettes at $11 per pk.  Not bad.  Guess they are a priority.

[Zevious Zoquis]

1 hour ago, Callaphera said:

I called Greenwich!Michael "Wino!Michael" last week but clearly that should be Sequim Mike's new nickname. Props, my dude, to bailing from your future mother-in-law's apartment at some point between breakfast and lunch and chugging down four beers like you're trying to win first place in the Day Drinking like Darcey Decathlon while doing your best hobo impression, wearing plaid pajama pants (and maybe slippers?) and sitting around a 40 gallon drum. Dude was half-cut in his outdoor talking heads. 

You thought the aliens were bad? Look upon thine future, Natalie, and cringe in Ukrainian Russian. 

Natalie isn't the one who needs to worry about their future together...Mike needs to head for home pronto and forget her. 

 

...and he's a pretty big dude.  I'm pretty sure he can handle 3 or 4 beers.  He wasn't driving anywhere at least.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Zevious Zoquis

[calpurnia99]

The greatest decision I made was to ff thru Robert and Anny. You notice how their every segment is a conflict or manufactured argument? How is this entertaining? HATE THEM and their ignorant ramblings.

The comment about how Syngin needs to be woke cause he is a white cis male- puleeze. They were saying that he doesn't know the ways of the world bla bla bla. Just shut up you are making yourselves look bad. Tania is a royal bitch.

[Zevious Zoquis]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

I havent seen the latest, but Mike seems so accommodating that I honestly think he'd have no problem having their future children raised in the Christian faith.  

He isn't trying to drag her to an alien temple or area 54 or get her to pray with him to some aliens.  I truly get the impression that he was drunk at dinner when he admitted his beliefs to Natalie's friend.  

I think be believes what he believes, but it's not a lifestyle he has to live.  

I do not understand her need to convert him.  He is willing to go to church with her to make her happy.  There are plenty of people who are christians who make it to church less than twice a year.  

This seems like something that could be an issue, but shouldn't be. He seems so accommodating and so it's weird that she is making this a problem.    IMO, her behavior is way more of a red flag 

Oh absolutely!  He won't be the problem.  It will always be her trying to convert him...or passive-aggressively making him feel like a bad guy for not believing in her magic cloud man.

[Zevious Zoquis]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

That is a bold statement, my friend, as we have Tonia in the mix.  Her mom should have offered to take Syngin to town and buy a bottle for him for all the free labor she is giving her.  Or he could have bought his own.

Natalie:  Epic control freak!!!

Robert:  Learn to spell happy birthday!!

Tania is definitely my choice for worst of show this season...even considering Angela is still on the show.  I think Tania is an utterly despicable human being.  She takes off for a month and leaves her guy completely on his own in a foreign country living in a shed behind her mother's house to do chores...and she has the pure gall to get annoyed that he wants her to send him a text message once in a while!  holy shit!  

Edited December 23, 2019 by Zevious Zoquis

[Pepper Mostly]

 

12 hours ago, Spike said:

Was Mursel Papa wearing a hijab or rocking shepherd garb?

I think that was his brother. Who is, apparently, the Unabomber. 

12 hours ago, PityFree said:

 Oh also I think it’s a huge red flag when your future mother-in-law won’t share her whiskey with you!!!. 

Lord knows they probably both need a stiff drink since they are so exhausted from dancing attendance on Tania. 

12 hours ago, PityFree said:

 Oh also did anyone else shout “that’s all??” at the TV when Michael revealed his “staggering” debt was $30,000???  I think $30,000 is manageable (depending on the terms of the loans, of course). Michael seems to have a good work ethic and IIRC, I think some of his debt is from acquiring the property he now lives on. 

I did! To me that is certainly manageable, even if its all credit card debt. Mike can sign up with Consumer Credit Counseling Service or some other debt management company, get on a program and wipe that out in under five years. They negotiate with your CC companies, get you a lowered interest rate, and auto deduct the money from your bank account and handle the payments. Its easy peasy. I did it myself about 20 years ago. 

Tania may be insufferable and selfish, but I won't drag her for being comfortable and confident in her body. 

[Snewtsie]

1 hour ago, calpurnia99 said:

Has anyone said to Juliana: If we get divorced, you are entitled to half my money, so the pre-nup is a way to insure that you don't get half, you get less? This sounds like shit, but IS the purpose, that she not get what the law may entitle her to. But they keep beating around the bush- talking about "protecting the kids" but not spelling it out.

 A friend of mine married a guy with a lot of family money.  Old money. It  was a second marriage for both. His family insisted on a pre nup as they didn't trust her. They didn't want her getting her hands on their money if the marriage failed quickly. However, the pre-nup was set up so that if the marriage lasted 8 or 10 years, it was null and void. After 5 years she got more, it was graduated like that. They have a child now and have been married 20 years. 

Trying to keep telling Juliana in plain terms what the pre-nup means, is why she is all confused. Tell her: It's to make sure you are not entitled to half - or whatever the law states, if we get divorced in 2 years. Period.

THANK YOU!  OMG, THIS ^^^^.  A pre-nup doesn't have to be horrible & unfair, it's just to prevent her from walking away with half of his net worth. It can still spell out a generous settlement if they are to get divorced. She is under the impression she will get nothing and be homeless. They mediator should have guided them better and spelled out some examples of what might be considered fair that they could both agree to?

[Pepper Mostly]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

I wonder how Michael's visa denial is going to square up with Angela's political leanings?  Whether you love or hate the current administration, they have been pretty clear about their policy about immigrants from certain countries and immigrants who aren't going to add "immediate value"

I think Angela should personally appeal to trump.  I mean, she is a trump supporter AND a tax payer.  

Angela thinks all those policies are for other people. Not her. 

[Hangin Out]

3 hours ago, Cammi said:

So the most common foundations for marriage are: kids, money. and religion (or lack of religious beliefs). These are usually the most common stressors in marriage. Natalie and her oak tree have problems with all three. Not exactly a match imo. 

Also, I am not a Christian, but my friends are that watch with me say that a true Christian believes God will not send them a non believing soulmate. Not to say that someone can't meet a person and introduce them to Jesus (or whatever), but Mike has already told Natalie his religious stance and beliefs. It's a no go! Respect it and move on. If she is truly a "Christian", then her god will find her a godly man. No? Unless hundreds of years of Christianity has changed overnight? 

Anna and Mursel just aren't entertaining anymore. His parents really didn't know about her kids? And she went to Turkey and met his family??? What kind of Mom doesn't show her in-laws pics of her kids? Wtf? 

This season is so boring. I watched maybe 30 minutes. I just come here to read what you guys have to say. Ya'll are oodles more interesting than this cast!

That’s exactly what I say.  This thread and the folks on it, are better than the damn show!!!!!!    Way smarter too.  Wineo Michael is looking like shit lately since he told her “no prenup”.  I thought he would keel over.  I’m loving it.

[sasha206]

13 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I bet this was the first time in history that a man turned down a threesome with two women. 

 

In a way, my respect for Robert went up a little by not partaking in what is probably nearly every man's fantasy.  But I did think he may be homophobic too.  That said, I don't think there's one thing wrong with being upset that your mate wants to bring another into the bedroom.  

 

[magemaud]

12 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Tania..you ain't all that girlfriend!

I think Tania believes she's the "hottest" of the crew of her new BFFs and will attract the most male attention, just like when she went out with her two unattractive minions from home. 

[BallisticNikki]

18 hours ago, Tuneful said:

OK, since it's "Judgment Day," I'll be judgy: who has 3 hours to spend on this cra@pfest the weekend before C'mas/Hannukah. including people who have to get up early for their jobs? TLC/Sharp should edit these episodes down, or add an episode or two to the season if it's required, which I think is debatable. Pillow Talk drags, too. And the Tell Alls? Edit those puppies to 60 or 90 amins. nd cut the arrivals/departures and backstage hissy fits. I don't care who doesn't want to sit next to whom, and who talks behind someone else's back. It's juvenile. 

It's the only show I watch all week! Plz dont thake it from me!

13 hours ago, Spike said:

Was Mursel Papa wearing a hijab or rocking shepherd garb?

"Sun visor"?

11 hours ago, Boston said:

I have to speak up about ANGELA talking about how she is a taxpayer.. she is NOT.. IF,(as we have heard .. she is on section 8).. if that is true she pays a portion of her rent.. I don't know HOW she is keeping those kids.. and when you are on section 8 YOU DON'T PAY TAXES.. (from someone who worked for the government).. 

She prbly pays payroll taxes 🤷‍♀️

10 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Really though, I think Natalie is just a ton smarter than Mike. He is never going to be able to keep up with her mentally. He's always going to be confused. And apparently walking aimlessly

And was he wearing pajama pants while wandering?? I know women do this...but men, too? 

6 hours ago, Lizzing said:

So Mursel continued to lie to his parents, in "telling the truth" about Anna's boys.  He let them believe that he only found out she had kids once he got to the US.  He is a total shitheel and Anna should be embarrassed she ever brought him over.

Did he actually say that?/ I missed it! Someone last week suggested he would say that. And I was waiting for it. But I was very distracted. Did he actually say it?

3 hours ago, Cammi said:

Also, I am not a Christian, but my friends are that watch with me say that a true Christian believes God will not send them a non believing soulmate. Not to say that someone can't meet a person and introduce them to Jesus (or whatever), but Mike has already told Natalie his religious stance and beliefs. It's a no go! Respect it and move on. If she is truly a "Christian", then her god will find her a godly man. No? Unless hundreds of years of Christianity has changed overnight? 

It says a couple should be equally yoked. And it says (metaphorically) not to mix two different fibers when weaving fabric. Both admonitions require some interpretation but are generally agreed to mean believers should marry only other believers. However, in the New Testament it does say an unbelieving husband/wife can be sanctified by their believing spouse. But either way, yes, the goal is for both to be sanctified.

Ahem...thousands of years 😊

[magemaud]

11 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

And Robert's rant about being a role model for Bryson.  HOW THE HELL WOULD BRYSON EVER KNOW IF THEY HAD A THREESOME???

No threesomes until he gets a bed and separate room for Bryson! 

[Lady Iris]

13 hours ago, Spike said:

I don’t know if Tania was overindulging in Costa Rica but that two piece swimsuit was brutal.  She looked like a cello from the rear.

Bwahahahah! Thank you. I practically choked on my sandwich reading that one.

 

12 hours ago, PityFree said:

 Oh also did anyone else shout “that’s all??” at the TV when Michael revealed his “staggering” debt was $30,000???  I think $30,000 is manageable (depending on the terms of the loans, of course). Michael seems to have a good work ethic and IIRC, I think some of his debt is from acquiring the property he now lives on. 

Geez, I thought he was up in the 6 figures the way he was worried.

 

1 hour ago, Silver Bells said:

Yeah .. she does have that same hair.  She belongs in a mental institution.  When she’s upset, which is about every five minutes, she runs and snuggles to mommy like a two year old.  If he doesn’t see the signs, he’s just as stupid.  Hope there’s no rabbits on his farm.

That and she better leave Uncle Bojangles alone!

I feel bad for Syngin. Is it possible they both knew and planned for her to be away for 30 of the 90 days to drum up drama? Absolutely. But if the shoe was on other foot and Tania got abandoned for 30 days in South Africa? Sheeeeeeet....that have gone over like a fart in church.

[BallisticNikki]

3 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I'd imagine the $30,000 is only his credit card debt.  He might owe more on a mortgage on the tree farm   

I definitely agree. If he owns 26 acres of pristine PNW real estate and all he owes is $30K, he'd he'd be screaming from every rooftop.

2 hours ago, Sterling said:

Her mother is so uncomfortably clingy.  The way she was laying in bed, spooning Natalie, while Mike was trying to talk to her, was bizarre.  Mom, drugstore, stat, for some Rogaine.  Yes, we all saw your bald spot, probably worn clean from pulling your hair out with that bunny boiler of a daughter you have there.

OMG that was my main take away from the episode. I can't recall anyone ever being that annoying in the 30 Day franchise.

The mother's behavior is gross and disturbing. Why was she petting Natalie like a puppy while Natalie and Mike were trying to have a PRIVATE conversation? I think the mama is playing the wingman here, guilt-tripping and obfuscating. 

2 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

Juliana sure got what she wanted, but I really hope that Sarah comes back to protect Max and Cece.  Otherwise Michael will never know what happened when all of him money starts making its way to Brazil and he is left with nothing.

I'm sure there's already a trust and a will in place for the kids. But I was surprised by how easily Mike rolled over on this issue.🤔

2 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

Has anyone said to Juliana: If we get divorced, you are entitled to half my money, so the pre-nup is a way to insure that you don't get half, you get less? This sounds like shit, but IS the purpose, that she not get what the law may entitle her to. But they keep beating around the bush- talking about "protecting the kids" but not spelling it out.

Right. But even ppl participating in this thread don't seem to understand. I'm glad the mediator hinted at such.

[Mu Shu]

3 hours ago, SevenCostanza said:

I hate her and her mother "Don't drink my whiskey!"   How would she feel if the situation was reversed?  Would she be happy with a  pep in her step if Syngin was going out with the guys to a club to dance with other women?  

Let’s face it. If Sinjin goes to the club, he gets surrounded by women. If Tania goes to the club, she sits on the sidelines and wallflowers. Not even enough gumption to DUFF. He knows no one wants her homely dumpling ass. 

speaking of Duffing, in Tania’s Haggle, who is Duffing who? I called it a draw, though the little one with the plastic looking septum ring looked in her little mirror enough to signal she was queen bee of this sweaty, saggy, sad little gathering of social misfits. Is that their actual room they’re staying in, or is it a gaily painted Mexican jail? Their mud daubed hut looked like it smelled of pork grease and sweat, and was full of leaks, mosquitoes, and palmetto bugs. 

That Ukrainian trick is just nuts. What is she, forty, and throwing herself on the bed pitching a fit? Oh Rhett, you’re so mean! 

What is wrong with the face of the pre nush guy? It’s like a mr potatohead face with the pop eyes and plastic skin. His child bride to be is whiny and unremarkable.

This is TLC. Why aren’t they paying up to get Dr Sandra Lee, also under their contract to excise the warts from Anna’s face, the things from her Mothers eyes, and while they’re at it, get that wart on Lauren’s face. Damn use your resources. 

The Fake Ass Finn and her great L.A. adventure. No one has two shits to give. Add the Leonid Brezhnev eyebrowed Russian and his bland bride to that.

poor Mahkul. He was so close to getting his Possum Kingdom wedding and babysitting job. And I’ve never noticed it before, but he walks like Pole. I’d like to see him get pissed more often and waddle away. 

Finally, Tania’s mom is a trashy ass. You know she’s sent Sinjin in his bare feet to the packy plenty of times to keep her in booze. As bad as Tania looks now, her mother is her future for Sin, and it ain’t pretty.     

Edited December 23, 2019 by Mu Shu

[kendi]

Tania is so annoying. Syngin nailed it perfectly, saying she already had the script written and he's a character. She pretty much confirmed that when she said, with or without him, kids were in the near future. When Tania's mother asked Syngin how he felt with Tania booking this trip and leaving him alone, what kind of answer was she fishing for? Of course he'd answer diplomatically because he knows he'd be tossed out on his ass, no matter now many chores he has already done, if he spoke badly of Tania. Yeah, pep in his step as he walks the hell out of there!  ( Even if he wasn't asked, I think he'd want to clean that hell-hole of a kitchen...what a mess!)

Bored with Anna and Mursel and Blake and Jasmine. 

Felt bad for Michael when he was crying. Geniunely distraught. Bothered me that his behavior was similar to Angela's when he met with his friends. Knocking drinks around and raising his voice to all of them. They didn't know he was denied at that time but he was acting just like Angela.

Not saying that Max and Cece aren't smart children, but I have this nagging suspicion that their mother talks a lot of shit about Juliana that the kids hear it, and repeat it. Not a big fan of Sarah. I get she and Mike are still friendly for the sake of the children, but to offer to officiate their wedding? Telling Juliana not to parent? She wants to call the shots. Michael already admitted that their divorce was expensive and I'm positive trusts and savings are set aside for the chidren. Her bringing up the pre-nup and having all this screen time? Not liking her.