Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[boes]

9 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Wouldn't that depend on how old he is! Have they ever said? It seems like the affair was only a few years ago.

You're right, lil tyke is probably still at the babbling stage, which, come to think of it, would make ButtBiscuit a perfect playmate.....so maybe they should just give him to whatever Daddy candidate makes him cry less.

[boes]

4 minutes ago, KLovestoShop said:

It’s official.  Victor has the brain of an amoeba.  Guy’s obviously having a heart attack, but old Vic goes “What the hell’s wrong with you?”  Vic probably thinks he’s got a bad case of gas.   Or is Ashland putting on a real good show. 

Oh, if ONLY Show would go with a gas attack.  Victor has had the effect on better people than Ashland Locke.

[Cindylou]

GO VICTOR GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!  TAKE DOWN LOCKE! TAKE DOWN VICTORIA!!!

 

 

i don't like you really Victor, but I am on your side now, make them pay!!! (just leave the Abbots alone)

[basiltherat]

I KNEW ol' Vampire would demand Sexy Turtle sign the contract.  But has he even thought of what Turtle might do to Vamp if he lives.  He would go scorched earth on Vamp and here you go with World War 3!

Is Kyle's bouffant getting bouffant-ier?

[peacheslatour]

Victor "What the hell's wrong with you?"

Ashland "I think I'm having a heart attack!

Victor "What do you want me to do?"

Ashland "Call for help!"

Victor "Sign the contract."

Ashland "Help me!"

Victor "Sign it."

Bwwhahahah!

 

[TobinAlbers]

Jack's gentle dismissal of Summer trying to play up Ashland as being worse than her grandpa with 'That's debatable' gave me a chuckle.  Nice try, Summer, but Jack has battled your grandpa for decades.  The reason Jack wasn't shook by Ashland was because there really isn't anything he can do to him that's worse than what Victor has done (take Jabot, hire Patty to make his life hell, cause the death of a family member, hire a doppleganger to take over his life, etc.)

Nate and Lola were a-dor-a-ble. Figures that as the actress is leaving she sparks with another male character.

Of course Adam has done heinous crap to everyone, but Nikki needs to check herself- not two years ago she was pulling her own felonious crap over JT's murder and hiding bodies and covering up crap with everyone aiding and abetting her. The fact JT ended up alive means nothing as they all knowingly tried to cover up a murder!

And I'm confused, didn't Victor offer the company to Victoria before running to Adam with it as a project for him? She turned him down, right? And as for giving it to Adam for him to target Billy, she and Billy targeted Adam first with their expose that contributed to Faith's spiral -which they don't mention at all.  And when Victoria heard Adam was involved suddenly she had to start playing the game to 'help Billy' and pull her own dirty moves -which she was proud of- only when Victor treats her like a real business opponent she goes and gets pissy that he's being mean to her and protecting Adam and not rolling over to let her get what she wants.  Honey, Victor TOLD you he was coming for you like he does anyone else and you acted like you were ready for it only you weren't.  I loathe Victor and hope he burns in fictional hell when he dies, but I ain't mad about how he's treating Victoria or his vitriol at Billy. She's the dummy trying to use this situation to get back with a man who she's given chance after chance to and he's always mucked it up.  She really is making bad decisions and Victor is right to be looking at her side-eyed in this instance.

Ashland was already sweaty and pulling at his chest when he walked in so doubt that he's faking a heart attack.  I guess since Victor has Colleen's young ticker in his chest he forgot what a heart attack looks like.  Too bad Victoria or Nikki didn't walk in on the scene as it would've been interesting to see how it played out.  Would they support Victor or relent and call for help for Ashland? If Nikki plays Ashland's angel, I could see him turning to her to try to steal her away from Victor as payback (but also because he appreciates a mature, beautiful woman). Victoria I could see playing it like dear old dad and making Ashland choose between them and whoever calls first is the winner of his company.

Kyle, I used to love you, but damn son, you are disappointing. Tell your father about his grandson so he has the complete picture about why Ashland is gunning for your ass so hard. Sheesh.

[SweePea59]

3 hours ago, boes said:

Oh, if ONLY Show would go with a gas attack.  

Don't you mean a fart attack? ;)

[lgprimes]

I hope when Jack finally finds out that Kyle has been withholding key information about a grandchild from him that he gives Kyle such an a$$-whooping that he won’t even have to worry about Ashland anymore. That kid’s an idiot.

Edited April 23, 2021 by lgprimes
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[Kemper]

Victor withholding medical help for Turtleneck was old-school villainy and I love it!  If Eric B leaves the show, I want him to go out as the power that he always was...not the toothless villain they have had him playing for awhile.  Likely due to Covid restrictions.  

Kyle is pasty, useless and bland.  He always pushes his eyebrows together like he is trying not to cry.  So I would like him to suffer some pain for the trouble he has caused Jack, Lola and maybe a couple of other people who I don't know about or have forgotten.  Summer?

Surprised that I have found Nate okay since he has been separated from Elena and Devon.  Is the Lola actress actually leaving.  Because I could see a Nate/Lola pairing.  Put Devon back with Elena.  Neither is interesting with anyone else...so let them be bland together.  Find someone for Nate.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Okay, so now Y&R is doing this thing again where one day lasts a whole week of episodes. Hmm.

And the Lola & Nate chem test continues. Why now though? Sigh, they would've made a gorgeous couple, I think.

Did Tara fly to GC with Ashland or no? Because if they hopped separate flights to GC from NY and then ended up making a scene in Society about Kyle, I'm gonna have to accuse them of having bad carbon footprints in addition to being publicly messy. 😐

OMG, their chemistry is fire. Shall we dub them Lote or Nala? 😍

Victor: you're a mother, Nikki. You're a woman. Adam needs help.
Nikki: oh boy, Victor, that takes the prize for non sequiturs. I know you're not suggesting I should join you in coddling perpetual criminal Adam over my own daughter.
Victor: I'm a man. You're a woman. You do what I say.
Nikki: sigh, why do I even bother?

Oh. Lola was playing matchmaker for Nate and ELENA! WTAF, Lola? Mind your business. 😒

Summer over there babbling about Jabot contingency plans for production emergencies. Girl, bye. The two Harvard MBAs in the room don't need help from a human bobblehead. 🤫

Meh, I liked Elena's hair without the blonde tips. It ages her, IMO.

Instead of giving him a glass, Victor should've served emo boy Ashland his drink like this:

Victor can't change because he's too set in his ways? FOH, Nikki. Who's being coddled now? Some people have a way of meeting your low expectations.

Dear Josh G., stop teasing me with Lola and Nate if you're not going to do it. They freaking light up in each other's presence! Make it so! Girl code be danged!

I would so love it if Ashland was faking his heart attack just to see what Victor would do. What a silly way to have Victor win the Cyaxares deal. Cheap macho b.s. AFAIC.🤨

Edited April 22, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu

[peacheslatour]

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Dear Josh G., stop teasing me with Lola and Nate if you're not going to do it. They freaking light up in each other's presence! Make it so! Girl code be danged!

I was amazed by how good they were together. And to think they waited all this time to throw us a bone and now Lola is leaving. We can never have nice things.

[Kemper]

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

I was amazed by how good they were together. And to think they waited all this time to throw us a bone and now Lola is leaving. We can never have nice things.

It is so nice to see a possible couple that hasn't been forced down everyone's throats; that you could see coming for miles.  

[Waldo13]

Spy vs Spy or should I say Bastard vs Bastard. Summer your wrong. Victor is and always will be top Bastard.  

[boes]

4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

OMG, their chemistry is fire. Shall we dub them Lote or Nala? 😍

That was an unexpected treat!  What soon-to-be-fired writer took the time to craft a scene for those two that managed to make them both charming on their own and as a couple?   I'm sure Show will make sure that never happens again.

Elena grates on me every time she minces in with that pinched prunefaced smile and the I'm-so-sad eyes.  Every problem she's got she created - and she liked it so much she went out and did it again.  She should be banished to ButtBiscuit Land once and for all.  Even Nate Natey Nate Nate Nate doesn't deserve that.

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Victor can't change because he's too set in his ways? FOH, Nikki. Who's being coddled now? Some people have a way of meeting your low expectations.

I'd be happiest if Victor was set in wet cement and tossed overboard into Lake Michigan.  I know I'm sitting at a table for one but I'd like to see him lose to Victoria.  She's as responsible as he is for this game they've been playing for years and she's become a terrible drudge but it's so far beyond time for Victor to lose beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Other long term villains have changed over time which for me kept them interesting.  Victor staying just as poisonous as he's always been makes him predictable and dull for me.  Snidely Whiplash twirling his moustache does nothing for me but hope he gets it caught in a door someday.

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I would so love it if Ashland was faking his heart attack just to see what Victor would do. What a silly way to have Victor win the Cyaxares deal. Cheap macho b.s. AFAIC

Exactly.

Ashland should count himself lucky that all Victor wants him to do to save his life is sign that contract.  Victor could REALLY be torturing him by telling him the orphanage story and including every teeny tiny detail.  

Jack is going to need to punish Kyle severely for all the crap he's called down on Jabot and most of all for keeping Jack in the dark about the most important part of it.  Jack should shave Kyle bald and withold his dipilatory products until he's learned his lesson.

I hope ButtBiscuit accepts Victoria's invitation to come over for game night if Victoria's idea of game night is locking him in a cage in the basement and feeding him rats.  After all, she's not Victor Newman's daughter for nothing.

 

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by boes

[lgprimes]

Long time viewers- am I crazy? Or does Ashland Locke look incredibly like the late John Abbot?  Every time he’s on screen with Jack I am struck by the resemblance (brings me back to the old days).

 What’s strange is that Peter Bregman is probably the older of the two actors but thanks to the gray hair I can still see Ashland in the father role. I keep waiting for him to say “Jackie”

[JNavarro]

3 hours ago, boes said:

I'd be happiest if Victor was set in wet cement and tossed overboard into Lake Michigan.  I know I'm sitting at a table for one but I'd like to see him lose to Victoria. 

 

Nah, I want this to happen too.  The only way I can tolerate Victoria lately is when she goes against Victor.  Per today, she seems to be the only person that ever fights back against his macho crap.  And of course, the only reason he can win is by rando events giving all the leverage.  Dude's got tougher Plot Armor than the ballistic grade Spanx he stuffs into every day.  

So disappointed in Nikki, but I don't know why I should be.  I hate the way GasBag talks to her and her still needing to defend him.  "What you have to understand about why Victor is a miserable old asshole is....(list of 100 things into the next morning)...but that's what makes him such a good tough man, and great father, and tough man".  

Also get a kick of whenever he talks about someone else's judgment.  His dumbass got tricked into funding a sex ring, lmao.   

Jack is an example of a character with serious character flaws who actually does show you why he's a good guy at the core.  Listening to him try to deal with a business problem while not desperately trying to breathe Viagra through the phone, showing his employees kindness, etc.  Refreshing.  

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by JNavarro

[paisley]

Why is the ratty fox tail on Olive's shoulder considered a hairstyle? 

Very tired of seeing Phyllis' shoulders. Please wear a whole dress.

[pearlite]

21 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Victor "What the hell's wrong with you?"

Ashland "I think I'm having a heart attack!

Victor "What do you want me to do?"

Ashland "Call for help!"

Victor "Sign the contract."

Ashland "Help me!"

Victor "Sign it."

Bwwhahahah!

 

Ah, OG Victor!

Maybe he coulda offered Ashland a rat to go with the bourbon, just out of traditional Newman hospitality...

I'm down to watching scenes with Victor and scenes with Jack at this point.

[PatsyandEddie]

23 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Wouldn't that depend on how old he is! Have they ever said? It seems like the affair was only a few years ago.

I think it was mentioned 3 or 4. Chances are he knows his nanny better than his parents

[Waldo13]

Is that the only date night dress Lily owns?  I could have sworn she has worn it before. 

 

Nostrils and Olive are dumb and dumber. Victor had the deal originally so how can Nostrils and Olive say Victor stole it from Olive?  How does Nostrils keep getting on the ranch?  Couldn’t he be bared no matter who he’s with?  

 

Olive doesn’t have a skinny leg to stand on with baring Victor from NE. Her bony ass is only there because Victor wants it to be there.  Olive threats are as empty as Summer’s head.  I’m tired of Olive beating her sunken chest and Nostrils flaring his overly developed nostrils. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Look at Jack and Kyle working the production crisis together to save Jabot. John must be smiling down from heaven. Me like. 😊

But Victor extorting Ashland with his very own life, not so much. Whatever, Ashland can probably get that contract nullified later since he signed it in literal fear of dying if he didn't.

How could Nikki stand there and wait for Victor to give her permission to call 9-1-1? WTF is wrong with her? If Ashland had died right there in her living room there'd have been blood on her hands too. ☠

Summer. Seriously, little girl? Tara likely has shoes with more substance than you, Ms. Pouty Face Duck Lips. 😼 I thought Tara was amazingly civil in her response to Summer's behavior.

What the heck, it's Friday, I'll say it. I continue to be impressed by what a fine figure Billy cuts in a suit. Meanwhile, I'm not giving Victor any points for his "I rolled out of bed and through several gutters like this" look. 🙄

Yeesh, Lily, after that goofy mélange of foods, Billy's digestive tract will probably go into overdrive and head off the possibility of any secksay times tonight. You didn't think that though, hon. Killer dress though.

Nikki happily trying to put lipstick on a pig. Ugh. Maybe if you keep trying to explain why he's such a resolute a-hole, Nik, you'll eventually understand why you defend his abuse of your children

Pshht, Kyle, you still don't know for certain Harrison Locke is your kid. Shut up. 🤨

Oh please, Devon. How is Moses going to keep an eye on Billy? You need to stop encouraging Moses to be up in grown folks business and let him live his teenaged life.

Victoria throwing another temper tantrum in front of daddy-not-so-dearest. Yawn.

So who's going to be the first person to show up in Ashland's ICU room and start harassing him about the fakakta Cyaxares deal? The line will probably form behind Billy or Victoria.

Edited April 23, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu

[rcc]

43 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Look at Jack and Kyle working the production crisis together to save Jabot. John must be smiling down from heaven. Me like. 😊

But Victor extorting Ashland with his very own life, not so much. Whatever, Ashland can probably get that contract nullified later since he signed it in literal fear of dying if he didn't.

How could Nikki stand there and wait for Victor to give her permission to call 9-1-1? WTF is wrong with her? If Ashland had died right there in her living room there'd have been blood on her hands too. ☠

Summer. Seriously, little girl? Tara likely has shoes with more substance than you, Ms. Pouty Face Duck Lips. 😼 I thought Tara was amazingly civil in her response to Summer's behavior.

What the heck, it's Friday, I'll say it. I continue to be impressed by what a fine figure Billy cuts in a suit. Meanwhile, I'm not giving Victor any points for his "I rolled out of bed and through several gutters like this" look. 🙄

Yeesh, Lily, after that goofy mélange of foods, Billy's digestive tract will probably go into overdrive and head off the possibility of any secksay times tonight. You didn't think that though, hon. Killer dress though.

Nikki happily trying to put lipstick on a pig. Ugh. Maybe if you keep trying to explain why he's such a resolute a-hole, Nik, you'll eventually understand why you defend his abuse of your children

Pshht, Kyle, you still don't know for certain Harrison Locke is your kid. Shut up. 🤨

Oh please, Devon. How is Moses going to keep an eye on Billy? You need to stop encouraging Moses to be up in grown folks business and let him live his teenaged life.

Victoria throwing another temper tantrum in front of daddy-not-so-dearest. Yawn.

So who's going to be the first person to show up in Ashland's ICU room and start harassing him about the fakakta Cyaxares deal? The line will probably form behind Billy or Victoria.

I have had my issues with Nikki but today was the worst. 

[peacheslatour]

31 minutes ago, rcc said:

I have had my issues with Nikki but today was the worst. 

My mom, who watched for twenty years, rage quit when Nikki went back to him this last time.

[SweePea59]

So Kyle got a bright idea. Hey we own Brash and Sassy, let's use those factories for our Jabot products, Dad. I had assumed that B&S was included in this fiasco since it's under the Jabot umbrella. I'm sure it was noted in the business section of the NY Post when Jabot acquired it.

I hate when they make Jack dumber than dirt, but PB always delivers no matter what. No eye rolling or sneering or sarcasm detectable in his voice. I don't know how he does it.

I just wish Kyle's face would grow up. He looks like a cartoon boy.

[KLovestoShop]

Spoiler

Mishael Morgan has to be away for a while for a health emergency. Karla Mosley is stepping into the roll for a while. 

 

[ByaNose]

I thought for a bit that Ashland was faking the heart attack. Then I thought Eric Braden wouldn’t allow him as Victor to made a full of. I’m curious to see how this plays out and how Ashland will get his revenge. 
 

I thought CK looked really hot in her dress. I don’t particularly like Lily or Billy but she looked amazing. Personally, I still hope & pray every day that Billy Miller will return but that is wishful thinking, I much prefer JT on GH. I still don’t buy him as Billy Abbott. 

[Cupid Stunt]

On 4/22/2021 at 9:12 AM, basiltherat said:

Insert your own "I've been on that ride" joke here.

As my father would say -- A lot of horses have run on that track.

[crowsworks]

On 4/23/2021 at 6:50 PM, rcc said:

I have had my issues with Nikki but today was the worst. 

Nah. she's killed several people including Kyle's mother - with a rock - to the head - while drunk, so it was ok.

[lgprimes]

When Chelsea whined that “everything is happening so slowly!” I automatically yelled back at the screen “HAH! You should watch The Bold & The Beautiful!”

[Waldo13]

I think Lily needs her head examined and eyes checked for I can’t see what she sees  in Nostrils. He undermines her and treats her like an employee and not his partner neither at work or in their relationship.  Nostrils thinks his relationships are based on his gratifications.  

Olive Oly also needs her head examined and stop acting holier than thou. Olive, how many times do you have to hear that Victor didn’t steal anything from you. Victor was just reacting to Ashland trying to get the upper hand on Victor. Olive, if you don’t recognize that business fact, than your not one centiliter of the businessperson you think you are.  Olive, once again you prove that your dumber than dirt. Olive tells Nostrils and Lily that they are no match for Victor but she thinks she is 😂😂😂. 

Rey can’t even look at Sharon without scowling. Rey’s chin enters the room before he does.  Rey must think that Adam is really really stupid by setting the trap of Connor being sick. First with Adam keeping incriminating evidence where it can be found and Adam not checking with hospital and even Victor to see if Connor is really sick. 

Nostrils and Lily 🤢🤢🤮. The only thing worse is the background music. 

 

[TVForever]

3 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

 

Rey can’t even look at Sharon without scowling. Rey’s chin enters the room before he does.  Rey must think that Adam is really really stupid by setting the trap of Connor being sick. First with Adam keeping incriminating evidence where it can be found and Adam not checking with hospital and even Victor to see if Connor is really sick. 

 

Mm-hmm. I said awhile back that Rey needed to let Sharon go before his (fully justified) anger and insecurity over Sharon and Adam got the better of him and he did something really stupid. It looks like he's just about there.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Sure Victoria, you're going to lock TGVN out of his own company. Good luck with that. 🙄

And now Nikki is lying for Victor to her daughter. No need though, as long as Ashland didn't develop amnesia during his MI. He knows what Victor did and that contract he signed is worth less than toilet paper. At this point Cyaxares is like a game of hot potato being played on the surface of the sun.

This Faith dresses a bit older than the younger one too. A bit more polished, I think.

I don't like that they've made Nate so gullible to Chelsea's lies. Whatever, when Chelsea stood up, MCE's pregnancy boobs were clearly in effect. Good for her. 🤗

Oh Lily, I want to root for you & Billy but how many times are you going to let him take you for granted?

Sharon: Faith, after your first rehab session tomorrow you can come to me with any questions.
Faith: no offense, Mom, but everyone knows you're a quack as far as therapy is concerned. I'll just talk to Grandma.
Sharon: <gulp > well okay, but if she advises you to sleep with some guy who's also in rehab, don't listen to her.
Nick: really, Sharon? You had to go there? She's my mom!
Faith: and you two wonder why I drink...

Hmm, I'd like to see Sharon and Nick ever try to badmouth Moses or forbid Faith from seeing him. He's the scion of a legacy character and is apparently a solid hero. Ocean waves will part for him. 😏

Do people in wheelchairs ordinarily leave their doors unlocked? I just don't get why Chelsea does that.

Wow, Rey, trying to use an innocent child to trap his own father. You are nucking futz. But look what madness you have wrought, Chelz. Feel bad yet? 😒

Meh, Billy, what do you ever bring to the romance table besides your peen? Lily could get one of those anywhere. You're an Abbott, FGS. Do better and do more.😐

Victoria, when you take so much pleasure out of being a cold shower of a buzzkill maybe you need to reevaluate your life choices. And get your own man.

Sharon taking marital advice from Nick. This must be an alternate timeline. 🤔

Alright then. Y&R is definitely back in the love scene business, baby!

[peacheslatour]

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Alright then. Y&R is definitely back in the love scene business, baby!

*hurl*

[lgprimes]

Like seriously? Faith is upset about being a social pariah at school and so gets drunk, and now Nikki is talking to her about recovery for a lifetime? 
Umm, over-react much?

[Joimiaroxeu]

^^^Faith's an alcoholic. She got drunk repeatedly, stole booze, drove while drunk, and got critically injured--luckily without hitting someone. I think she's way beyond just having some hurt feelings because kids at school were mean to her. Nikki was suggesting that Faith may be genetically predisposed so she will indeed face a lifelong effort not to drink.

[SweePea59]

When will Chelsea leave town? All she does is talk about it, to herself, and it can't be soon enough for me. This storyline was amusing at first, basically because she's such a bad actor, but now it's beyond tedious. 

[lgprimes]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

 

^^^Faith's an alcoholic

 

I completely agree that Faith has a genetic disposition that puts her at risk for being an alcoholic, and therefore should be cautious. I don’t even mind her going to rehab to learn about the dangers, warning signs etc. but I think it is premature to call her an alcoholic. Getting drunk a bunch of times as a teenager and making stupid decisions while under the influence doesn’t mean you are going to have a lifetime addiction in my opinion. Time will tell if she is an alcoholic but I wouldn’t put that label on her at this point.

I know plenty of people who had stupid dangerous drunken shenanigans back in the day who are responsible social drinkers as adults.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Not sure I get it. As long as you're still a legally a child you can drink and have all the booze-involved adventures (or misadventures) you want because you're not old enough to be an alcoholic? Or there's some amount you have to drink before you cross the threshold to be considered an alcoholic?

Faith was already getting blackout drunk, stealing bottles, and putting her own life and/or other's lives at risk. And she was going to continue doing it until she hit a literal or figurative wall. She no longer had control over her drinking, it was controllng her. I agree with the show's position that she's moved beyond having some momentary youthful indiscretions with drinking and is now an alcoholic.

The only thing that has bothered me is the 12-Step stuff. I know that program has helped and is still helping many people but in my view it's got it's own problems. For one I think it's often a substitution of one obsession for another. And now this has veered far enough off-topic that I'm stopping here.

[Cupid Stunt]

Poor Sharon. Her husband has left because of her emotional disloyalty to their marriage. Faith isn't going to her as a therapy buddy. Nick is giving her relationship advise. Sitting with her justifications and instincts, alone in the cottage ... When do the rending of garments begin?

[JNavarro]

I'm really happy that the social distancing is easing up.   But I've had a hunch that they've been aiming for a lot of what we saw today in terms of Billy/Lilly pound sessions.  Which, I have no issue with in theory, I'm just sick of seeing his sneering face like he's some sort of "performer".  

What a weak look for Rey with the constant whining and obsession over Adam.  Kind of a cautionary tale of getting so shook that you lose all sympathy even as the original victim.   He and everyone else should just be treating Adam like he's nothing.  Because he is, first of all, and second it's so unbelievable that this version of the character is so charismatic (LOL) and effective as to have that affect on anyone.     

Victoria still annoys me even when she's the only one stating the obvious, which is that Victor is allowed to be an asshole and suffer no consequences, but no one else is.  

[boes]

1 hour ago, JNavarro said:

I'm really happy that the social distancing is easing up.   But I've had a hunch that they've been aiming for a lot of what we saw today in terms of Billy/Lilly pound sessions.  Which, I have no issue with in theory, I'm just sick of seeing his sneering face like he's some sort of "performer".  

Yep.  I liked Lily more since she returned this time than I have in years, but her romance with ButtBiscuit the human Preparation H applicator is severely trying my patience.  She sees his obsession with Adam and Victor, complete with Victoria attachment and decides to ignore it all so she can get more hands on time with Gumby when she knows he's reverting to type.  She'll never get her cleaning deposit back, never.  

Why she bothered with that special meal for him is beyond me, especially when she should know ButtBiscuit's real favorite foods are Spaghetti-O's and spite.

1 hour ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Poor Sharon. Her husband has left because of her emotional disloyalty to their marriage. Faith isn't going to her as a therapy buddy. Nick is giving her relationship advise. Sitting with her justifications and instincts, alone in the cottage ... When do the rending of garments begin?

It's sort of astounding listening to Sharon and Nick spout out the parenting advice while fully aware that never, not once, have either of them ever chosen to do anything even remotely as sensible as what they expect of Faith.

While Nikki is as bad as ever when it comes to Victor, I pretty much love her interactions with Faith and she was charming with Moses.  She's moving into her town Matriarch role very nicely.

Maybe Rey Rey will lose it completely and he'll run off with Chelsea where they can drape themselves in velvet happily ever after somewhere else.

[tinderbox]

This show, the one I’ve watched for more than 35 years, is unrecognizable in every single way.  Bill Bell must be spinning in his grave.  

[lgprimes]

6 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

you can drink and have all the booze-involved adventures (or misadventures) you want because you're not old enough to be an alcoholic? Or there's some amount you have to drink before you cross the threshold to be considered an alcoholic?

No age limit... maybe I’ve missed important Faith scenes, because I don’t watch every day. I only recall her drinking with Jordan because Jordan pressured her to, and she wanted to be cool. The only time I recall her drinking by herself was after the cruel prank was revealed about the fake boyfriend. Clearly that night she drank beyond her control but it seemed to be specifically in reaction to that. I don’t recall her otherwise sneaking alcohol to get drunk, or ever expressing a desire to drink on her own or expressing any craving for alcohol whatsoever.
In no way do I condone drunk driving, I’m not implying her actions weren’t dangerous, I just don’t see a strong enough pattern to think of her as an alcoholic... yet.  If she starts pressuring Moses to take a nip with her I’ll change my mind!

[Cupid Stunt]

8 hours ago, boes said:

Maybe Rey Rey will lose it completely and he'll run off with Chelsea where they can drape themselves in velvet happily ever after somewhere else.

 

[peacheslatour]

This is a candid picture of Rey, taken while he was at Chelzzz's.

[boes]

5 hours ago, lgprimes said:

No age limit... maybe I’ve missed important Faith scenes, because I don’t watch every day. I only recall her drinking with Jordan because Jordan pressured her to, and she wanted to be cool. The only time I recall her drinking by herself was after the cruel prank was revealed about the fake boyfriend. Clearly that night she drank beyond her control but it seemed to be specifically in reaction to that. I don’t recall her otherwise sneaking alcohol to get drunk, or ever expressing a desire to drink on her own or expressing any craving for alcohol whatsoever.
In no way do I condone drunk driving, I’m not implying her actions weren’t dangerous, I just don’t see a strong enough pattern to think of her as an alcoholic... yet.  If she starts pressuring Moses to take a nip with her I’ll change my mind!

That's how I saw it as well.  

With the way Y&R handles addiction I assume Faith will now be a recovering addict until she's not.

Jack went through an addiction to medication that I assume was some sort of painkiller storyline that's still referenced today, though mostly when he's overpraising Phyllis for acting like an actual human being but he's been throwing back a drink with the best of them for years now.  Not how I thought recovery worked....

But Show has also had Victor downing tequila as if it's Metamucil which generally is frowned up for heart transplant recipients - and for people his age.  I guess the Black teeshirt of Virility bestows more powers than I thought.  That or his magical spanx.

And then there's the full bar carts in every home, office, changing station and church lobby in town, not to mention that wierd idea all of Genoa City still has that champagne is the go-to drink for all occasions.  (Maybe that's because I don't really like champagne, even the supposedly good stuff).

21 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

This is a candid picture of Rey, taken while he was at Chelzzz's.

HAHAHAHA!  Sharon is now turning men to stone - though Rey Rey was halfway there already.

Of course with Adam, she turns him to instant wood.

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[Joimiaroxeu]

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Why she bothered with that special meal for him is beyond me, especially when she should know ButtBiscuit's real favorite foods are Spaghetti-O's and spite.

Hear tell Spaghetti-O's and spite go well with a nice Chianti. UO I guess but I sorta like Lily and Billy as a couple. He's problematic but Lily calls him out on it and he accepts her judgment. I just wish Lily would tell Victoria to fcuk right off, for once and for all. Don't be coy, Lily; use all your words.

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Jack went through an addiction to medication that I assume was some sort of painkiller storyline that's still referenced today, though mostly when he's overpraising Phyllis for acting like an actual human being but he's been throwing back a drink with the best of them for years now.  Not how I thought recovery worked....

But Show has also had Victor downing tequila as if it's Metamucil which generally is frowned up for heart transplant recipients - and for people his age.  I guess the Black teeshirt of Virility bestows more powers than I thought.  That or his magical spanx.

Heh, on soap operas it seems a man can't really be seen as A Man unless he's knocking back generous quantities of booze, especially under stressful situations. I guess that' why Jack and Victor drink now despite their medical/addiction histories.

What amused me not long ago is when Victor went to see Chance at the Chancellor mansion and he demanded that Chance pour him a drink. Everyone knows Victor only imbibes a certain top shelf tequila. I did not find it believable that Chance and Abby would have that specific brand on hand on the random possibility Victor might show up feeling parched. Apparently it's very expensive and you can't just buy it anywhere. Feh.

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2 hours ago, boes said:

But Show has also had Victor downing tequila as if it's Metamucil which generally is frowned up for heart transplant recipients - and for people his age.  I guess the Black teeshirt of Virility bestows more powers than I thought.  That or his magical spanx.

And don't forget the epilepsy, the snowflake-origami-itis and the meds he's on.

[SweePea59]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

What amused me not long ago is when Victor went to see Chance at the Chancellor mansion and he demanded that Chance pour him a drink. Everyone knows Victor only imbibes a certain top shelf tequila. I did not find it believable that Chance and Abby would have that specific brand on hand on the random possibility Victor might show up feeling parched. Apparently it's very expensive and you can't just buy it anywhere. Feh.

I can absolutely believe Abby would keep Daddy's tequila stocked everywhere.

[peacheslatour]

Oh lord, Victoria is still wearing that fugly pink ensemble. I bet it could stand on it's own by now.