S07.E15: Tell All Part 2

[libgirl2]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I am sorry too @libgirl2, and that you had anxiety on top of a stressful day!!

Thank you. 

[MajorNelson]

5 hours ago, GoGamecox said:

17 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Natalie has been shown to be deep into Russian Orthodox teachings and has repeatedly shown a very out-dated and old-fashioned view on the gender roles in a relationship. I don't think it's that much of a leap to see how she could be offended by what happened.

 

Totally agree. I hate the way she always defers to him to answer first when she's asked questions like "What's the status of your relationship?" and ...

But we know she deferred because it is up Mike to meet her conditions: Has he become a Christian yet and willing to have babies?

[libgirl2]

24 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

Sorry to hear about your mom @libgirl2

Thank you. It followed a long battle with dementia. Her death was't tragic, it was a release, it was freedom. The disease was tragic. She was one of the smartest, funniest, creative people I ever knew. The disease took her away. 

[charmed1]

3 hours ago, Spike said:

For anyone who hasn’t noticed the first hour of Before the 90 Days is available on demand and they seem to have better casting this time lol.

You promise? Because remember we were all excited from the previews of the beekeepers and the yacht douche, and we got sucked into this dud of a season. I just can’t take another heartbreak. I’m giving up everything to watch this new season, baby.

[Ijustwantsomechips]

6 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Thank you. It followed a long battle with dementia. Her death was't tragic, it was a release, it was freedom. The disease was tragic. She was one of the smartest, funniest, creative people I ever knew. The disease took her away. 

I hear you on the dementia being tragic. My grandma had it and it was hell for the family.  As much as I miss her, it’s nice to remember her how and for who she was before the disease ravaged her mind. 

6 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

You promise? Because remember we were all excited from the previews of the beekeepers and the yacht douche, and we got sucked into this dud of a season. I just can’t take another heartbreak. I’m giving up everything to watch this new season, baby.

Liar! You never loved us!

[Baltimore Betty]

6 hours ago, Zevious Zoquis said:

Yeah I think Jazmin is a weirdo ice queen, but I don't in any way hold her not wanting to go watch his rap crap against her.  That would be a bad time every time for sure...

I always think of that movie Midsommer, Jazmin reminds me of the Swedish girls in that movie, smiling all the while they are part of a horrible ritual.

[RealReality]

34 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

I have a feeling it went something like this:

party night happened/ mike slept on couch

next morning/day mike and natalie talk and natalie asks how the night went

Mike stupidly told her that he got too drunk and decided to sleep on the couch

natalie went nutso

mike vented to good friend about his girlfriend going nutso and accusing them of sleeping together

good friend got super pissed because no way would she cheat on her fiance the night before her wedding, dm'd natalie where two scenarios could have happened:

1. good friend tried to explain what happened to natalie to reassure her that nothing happened, trying to be a good friend and making natalie and mike ok. natalie would have none of it so friend got pissed

2. friend was just pissed and went at her

 

Then I think Natalie's version of "she told mike would not marry me...." was actually more of "she told mike SHOULD NOT marry me..." 

probably like "mike should not marry a jealous psycho nutso like yourself" 

 

I think this is probably the most accurate timeline.  I also suspect that Mike only got drunk and stayed on the couch because the plan was always that the fiancee was going to come home.  

I think had Mike known that the fiancee wasn't going to come home, he would have brought it up with Natalie and once she made it clear that she DID NOT APPROVE, he would have either stayed sober and driven home or booked a cheap room or stayed with another friend. 

[Spike]

35 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

You promise? Because remember we were all excited from the previews of the beekeepers and the yacht douche, and we got sucked into this dud of a season. I just can’t take another heartbreak. I’m giving up everything to watch this new season, baby.

Well at least there is plenty of eye candy.

[FrancescaFiore]

2 minutes ago, Spike said:

Well at least there is plenty of eye candy.

And there's also Big Ed. He has very sensitive skin and his mom calls him Pony. And there's Geoffrey, who is either going to get married, or go on a killin' spree. 

[Spike]

9 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

And there's also Big Ed. He has very sensitive skin and his mom calls him Pony. And there's Geoffrey, who is either going to get married, or go on a killin' spree. 

The teacup poodle steals the show.

[Baltimore Betty]

So in the end, Natalie tells us if Mike changes everything about himself she would consider being in love with him.  She actually said that.

I don't think Mike understood that there is no compromise in her world, it is religion, her religion only, the truth as she understands it, the way she sees the world. 

Mike should run far and run fast, he is in for a life of fighting over everything, constantly bowing down to that nut job Natalie...sadly Uncle Bo will be smarter than Mike and he will head for the hills when Natalie comes to the US and he will not even worry about having Sunday pancakes in that house again!

 

[mamadrama]

3 hours ago, lizajane said:

All of this. You know, I think I understand where Mike is coming from in terms of his views on religion. He said last night that he believes that there is life out there on other planets besides earth, and that he believes in a higher power. So he is not an atheist, but an agnostic. He doesn’t necessarily believe that ET is going to land on his property in Sequim any time soon. But he does not articulate this very well, and Nat doesn’t let him finish a sentence. She may as well have cotton balls in her ears and I don’t think she would get it or accept it even if she heard what he was trying to say. He just looks so beaten down and bewildered. These two need to pull the plug on this relationship. I hope he has some friends at home that can talk some sense into him.

My 8yo daughter watched this whole thing go down and said, "What's the problem? Couldn't God have made the aliens, too? Why can't both of them be right?" When she learned that people were making fun of him for the alien talk she got even more confused: "Why is it sillier to believe in aliens than it is to believe that one man created every single thing and is watching everyone in the world at the same time?"

I should mention that after a month of Sunday school services it was gently suggested that we not bring her back until she "learned more about Jesus." She was apparently "upsetting the other kids" by "questioning the authenticity of Bible stories." She was 6 and totally believed that she could grow up and join the Paw Patrol but nothing could convince her that there was a boat big enough to hold two of every animal during a rain storm.

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Big Mike will be on Natalie’s leash for the rest of his life. If he has cows on his farm, they may be better company.

But he can't have sex with the cows. Oh, wait a minute...

[iwasish]

7 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I was streaming an old Tell All with Michelle Collins and she was interviewing Stacey.  She was hammering her:  "C'mon!  Give up the goods!  We brought you here to talk!"

I think Tania was happy Maz liked her - he is the only one.  Tania thinks she can change Syngin about kids.  She can't.  There is a play out there called "I Love You, You are Perfect, Now Change."  That could be staffed with the entire 90 Day Cast.

Robert is uber defensive. I am over Granny Porn.

Mike, run.  Now.  She flips out over you sleeping on a couch?  Be glad he slept there and was safe.  Then the cast sided with her!  Way to give her more ammo.

Blake's friends need to shut it.  I would not be in the front row for that awful music either.  I agree with @Pepper Mostly - I would be asking/requesting to go ASAP as it 2am.  Or I would not go at all.

I agree with Jasmin not wanting to be in the front row.  I can’t stand that kind of music and all I could think of while he was on stage was “Boy, you got a panty on your head!!”

[Spike]

5 minutes ago, iwasish said:

I agree with Jasmin not wanting to be in the front row.  I can’t stand that kind of music and all I could think of while he was on stage was “Boy, you got a panty on your head!!”

If music doesn’t pan out at least he can knock off a 7-11.

[Ijustwantsomechips]

9 minutes ago, iwasish said:

Boy, you got a panty on your head!!”

“Raising Arizona” is one of my favorite movies.  I know it line by line. 

 

42 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I should mention that after a month of Sunday school services it was gently suggested that we not bring her back until she "learned more about Jesus." She was apparently "upsetting the other kids" by "questioning the authenticity of Bible stories." She was 6 and totally believed that she could grow up and join the Paw Patrol but nothing could convince her that there was a boat big enough to hold two of every animal during a rain storm.

Can I just say I love your daughter

[Spike]

7 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

“Raising Arizona” is one of my favorite movies.  I know it line by line. 

 

Can I just say I love your daughter

I heard two guys debating Noah’s Ark on the bus.  One said that whales could not fit on it, apparently forgetting they can swim.

[iwasish]

5 hours ago, Dmarie019 said:

Forgot to mention in my last post.... Mike is totally going to have to cut off that friend to get back with Natalie and that's sad. 

And any other friends she deems unacceptable. Bojangles will be next, no more fattening pancake breakfasts. 

[iwasish]

45 minutes ago, magemaud said:

But he can't have sex with the cows. Oh, wait a minute...

I doubt Bojangles lives in the barn strictly for a pancake breakfast on the weekend. 

[Pepper Mostly]

2 hours ago, charmed1 said:

You promise? Because remember we were all excited from the previews of the beekeepers and the yacht douche, and we got sucked into this dud of a season. I just can’t take another heartbreak. I’m giving up everything to watch this new season, baby.

Talk to the hand. Did you give up your CAR? If not you have nothing to say. Sob. What a blow we've been dealt!

[TzuShih]

19 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Wow, Shaun Robinson was really reaching for the Pulitizer with her stern "Tell us about the aliens," while leaning. 

Too bad she biffed it on everything else. 

Firstly, Mike DID try to explain himself when he talked about aliens.  He was genuinely trying to say that he believes that as reasonably intelligent residents of Planet Earth, we cannot accept that we are the ONLY functioning life in this universe. (Or not even near the most advanced.)  I fer shure count myself one of the more rational of our human species, BUT, I'd challenge people to read some of the works of our scientific intelligentsia without becoming very curious about that which has become 'common' knowledge' -- yet which governments do not wish or feel ready to share with the public - homo sapiens.  

OK. More timely - back to 90-Day Fiance!  While Shaun Robinson 'may' have had savvy follow-up to her initial questions, it seems like she relinquished much of the show to the couples.  (Robert in particular seemed comfortable in his new role as "co-host.")  BUT who knows!?!  Maybe the couple's 'take-over' DID make for a more interesting show....and maybe the producers were whispering in Shaun's ear, "Let it go!" ☺️

[renatae]

19 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Maybe Alien Mike really is the (alien) angel that he's being painted as. I just don't think it's as obvious as she's foreign, therefore she's playing a game/trying to come to America/she's crazy and Alien Mike is American, white, and male so...

I think his demeanor shows he is hiding something. Sometimes he looks frustrated, but most of the time he just looks guilty.

[Twopper]

21 hours ago, Spike said:

For anyone who hasn’t noticed the first hour of Before the 90 Days is available on demand and they seem to have better casting this time lol.

Well, I am not so sure that would be very hard to do.   I hope they don't bring back any of these people although I suppose the Angela saga will be continued and perhaps Natalie and Mike.

This comment probably should go in the thread for Part 1, because I am going to mention Cece and Max in relation to Natalie since Cece said she liked Natalie best.   I really hate when the show includes minor children (it would have been okay perhaps to show them at the wedding, but I hate when they are interviewed or permitted to offer opinions or otherwise participate).  I would like to think that they only saw the parts that Julianna, their dad and Sarah were in.   I would hate to think they watched all the episodes in full.   I am hoping she only saw Natalie in previews or scenes where she wasn't a crazy woman.  I would hate for them to hear Angela bragging about 34 times in the two weeks she was in Nigeria.  There's other stuff I hoped they missed, but you get my drift.

 

22 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Blake, drop the blue contacts, you look weirder than you usually do.

Ha!  All I could think of was that the apparently cold fish Jazmin was a variation on the Night King in Game of Thrones and has turned him into a wight.   I don't blame her for not wanting to hang out at all his performances especially if she doesn't like the music and has to stay until they close up for the night/early morning. 

I am married to a local actor;  when we were first married I went to all his performances in a play.   After that I went to a few performances when relatives or friends were going.  Now I may or may not get to both opening and closing nights.  It can become old really fast.

 

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by Twopper

[Toaster Strudel]

I really didn't need to know how many times a day each couple engages in human mating rituals. What a waste of time.

[RealReality]

4 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

Thank you. It followed a long battle with dementia. Her death was't tragic, it was a release, it was freedom. The disease was tragic. She was one of the smartest, funniest, creative people I ever knew. The disease took her away. 

That's so beautiful and sad.  I'm so sorry.  I can't imagine being so selfless that I would have your perspective.  

[charmed1]

1 hour ago, Twopper said:

All I could think of was that the apparently cold fish Jazmin was a variation on the Knight King in Game of Thrones and has turned him into a wight

Ha ha ha! I’m dying! Stay away from fire, Blake.

[Mrs. Hanson]

Okay, I just watched the ending to the Tell All:  Mike was NOT drunk, alcohol was never mentioned.  He said he went to his female friend's house, the plan was that her fiance was going to be there and at the last minute her fiance stayed with "his boys" which I took to mean his sons.  He slept on her couch, she messaged Natalie the next day to say "Mike id not going to marry you" and Mike was clearly, in my opinion, defamed.  Natalie was RELENTLESS with her "This is why I need to change him, make him believe in God!"

THREE PEOPLE asked her if she loved him:  Shawn (sp?) the host, Angela and Robert and each time she hemmed and hawed (sp?) and I was like THIS IS A NO.  If you hesitate, that is a no.

And Mike, I want to like you, I do, but when you said on Pillow Talk you want to book a flight ASAP to the Ukraine to "work this out" - I am out.  You wanna sign up for a woman who CLEARLY wants to change you?  She can't accept you as you are?  

I was also surprised by the Pillow Tall folks who readily believed Mike was cheating.  With a woman who getting married in, oh I don't know.....A DAY?  Tim Tim was leading the charge.

Mike,m if you stick with Natalie, you can kiss this friendship with this long term friendship with this female friend goodbye.  And any other woman as well.

PS:  Robert, SHUT UP.

[Mrs. Hanson]

15 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

Thank you. It followed a long battle with dementia. Her death was't tragic, it was a release, it was freedom. The disease was tragic. She was one of the smartest, funniest, creative people I ever knew. The disease took her away. 

I hear you, I feel you as much as I can.  I have a neighbor up the street who lost his wife of 50 years to dementia.  It was obvious he was CLEARLY in love with her and she passed in November after living in a facility on a 24/7 lockdown for her safety.  He thought they would be dangling their collective feet off a dock at this point in their lives and instead he was visiting her in a lockdown facility from 8am until noon then coming home, alone.   And she was only in her hear early 70's.  That. Is. Young.

Edited February 19, 2020 by Mrs. Hanson

[Frozendiva]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Okay, I just watched the ending to the Tell All:  Mike was NOT drunk, alcohol was never mentioned.  He said he went to his female friend's house, the plan was that her fiance was going to be there and at the last minute her fiance stayed with "his boys" which I took to mean his sons.  He slept on her couch, she messaged Natalie the next day to say "Mike id not going to marry you" and Mike was clearly, in my opinion, defamed.  Natalie was RELENTLESS with her "This is why I need to change him, make him believe in God!"

THREE PEOPLE asked her if she loved him:  Shawn (sp?) the host, Angela and Robert and each time she hemmed and hawed (sp?) and I was like THIS IS A NO.  If you hesitate, that is a no.

And Mike, I want to like you, I do, but when you said on Pillow Talk you want to book a flight ASAP to the Ukraine to "work this out" - I am out.  You wanna sign up for a woman who CLEARLY wants to change you?  She can't accept you as you are?  

I was also surprised by the Pillow Tall folks who readily believed Mike was cheating.  With a woman who getting married in, oh I don't know.....A DAY?  Tim Tim was leading the charge.

Mike,m if you stick with Natalie, you can kiss this friendship with this long term friendship with this female friend goodbye.  And any other woman as well.

PS:  Robert, SHUT UP.

Natalie is the only person Natalie can change. She cannot change another person. She can try and gaslight and manipulate and control. Lovebomb, alienate him from all his friends and family and that she is the only person who can save him. It takes a lot of strength to walk away. Mike probably has a good nature and a woman like Natalie would be drawn to him.

I love my soul connection/soulmate. Even though we are apart, the feelings do not change.

Mike should save his money and get a few sessions with a counsellor to see if moving forward with Natalie is the right thing to do. Get away from the calls, the video chat, everything - to get an objective perspective on this. Otherwise, he will learn some very tough lessons with Natalie and if she does have a kid with him, things may not be so great.

Edited February 19, 2020 by Frozendiva

[Mrs. Hanson]

7 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Natalie is the only person Natalie can change. She cannot change another person. She can try and gaslight and manipulate and control. Lovebomb, alienate him from all his friends and family and that she is the only person who can save him.

Yeppers!! Stop. Trying. To. Change. Him.

[ava111]

Seems to me Emily gained a some weight since her wedding. Even after delivery she was pretty skinny when she went to the gym to loose pregnancy weight but now seems heavier. (You could see it in her face and arms especially. To me she seems completely fine but she was extremely skinny before pregnancy. Sasha is probably calculating her BMI every morning with his healthy breakfast). Must be all the worrying about her future ex husband. And he is not even working yet. I imagine it will just get worse as he starts to get female clients for private training. I already can see her turning into "jealous naggy wife that is turning also fat" (that will always be a number 1 problem for him) which will just push Sasha away even faster as she will also continue stress eat and gain weight - it would be the worst thing in the world to him to be married to a "fat" wife.  She will probably develop eating disorder in desperate attempt to keep him. And will pop baby number 2 to try to tie him up to her even more (because that always works in real life said no one ever). I don't see any happy ending for these people. 

On the other hand Emily's sister seemed thinner. Not sure if that was the angle she was sitting for the camera. Some people can be really crafty with finding the best angle and then you meet them for the first time and they suddenly gained 100 pounds (see Nicole and Azan). Wish I had some skills in this area. 

[geej]

i was so very touched by what Anny' told us about her probably not able to have  children, since all her years she did not use protection. That made what granporn asked about birth control, even worse. It reminded me that when anyone asked personal questions , they can set off real pain to hear. Anny handled herself well thru-out the "Tell Nothing". Did i also hear her say "sometimes noboby wants to have baby? or something like that. Her love for Grayson always came thru. I think all most of the bickering and producer set ups, were for show and now Anny showed us her real relationships in america are healthier than we are lead to belive. He gets defensive trying to make sure the drama stays. he sees this pay check. they both do. I like her.

[Spike]

Younger guys call their male friends their boys, so I assumed maybe the groom was at a bachelor party and decided to stay out.  Some folks still do it the night before the wedding, as unwise as that may be.

[Meowwww]

@libgirl2 I lost my mom in July, she had an aortic dissection.  Hardest thing I’ve ever been through and will ever go through.  Hugs to you. 
I think Big Mike is exhausted. That level of crazy and dealing with it 24x7 would do me in. I also don’t think he was talking about Roswell type aliens.  He’s a dude, so aliens just popped out of his mouth lol.  I *think* that he may believe like I do, that there’s a huge spirit world out there on the other side, and it’s a very active world.  I won’t go more into my beliefs lol. But I think he just can’t articulate it well. 
I was bugged by how the cast was all on Natalie’s side.  “I’m so sorry Natalie” ugh. 

[ava111]

21 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I wonder if this is a case like Cesar and Maria where Sequim/Alien Mike (I'm torn on my favourite descriptor for him) believes that he deserves the (in his opinion) hot foreign blonde woman as opposed to the maybe 7-or-8 cute brunette that flirts with him over the salad case at the local grocery store. Or maybe he's burned his bridges/has a reputation with the locals. Maybe he throws raging Coast to Coast AM listening parties/keggers that the town finds distasteful. I definitely find it odd that someone who on the surface seems so "normal" needs to go to another country to find love - something just ain't right there. 

Except Mike didn't go to foreign country to look for foreign woman like Cesar. They met because her Ukrainian friend married Mike's friend and he became godfather to their kid. If I remember correctly.  In any case they met through mutual friends and liked what they saw. It just happened that she was foreigner. So he wasn't purposefully looking for foreign bride on mail bride website and spending thousands of dollars on chat and gifts. 

[geej]

i am so sorry Meow. 

 

[iwasish]

2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Okay, I just watched the ending to the Tell All:  Mike was NOT drunk, alcohol was never mentioned.  He said he went to his female friend's house, the plan was that her fiance was going to be there and at the last minute her fiance stayed with "his boys" which I took to mean his sons.  He slept on her couch, she messaged Natalie the next day to say "Mike id not going to marry you" and Mike was clearly, in my opinion, defamed.  Natalie was RELENTLESS with her "This is why I need to change him, make him believe in God!"

THREE PEOPLE asked her if she loved him:  Shawn (sp?) the host, Angela and Robert and each time she hemmed and hawed (sp?) and I was like THIS IS A NO.  If you hesitate, that is a no.

And Mike, I want to like you, I do, but when you said on Pillow Talk you want to book a flight ASAP to the Ukraine to "work this out" - I am out.  You wanna sign up for a woman who CLEARLY wants to change you?  She can't accept you as you are?  

I was also surprised by the Pillow Tall folks who readily believed Mike was cheating.  With a woman who getting married in, oh I don't know.....A DAY?  Tim Tim was leading the charge.

Mike,m if you stick with Natalie, you can kiss this friendship with this long term friendship with this female friend goodbye.  And any other woman as well.

PS:  Robert, SHUT UP.

Tim of all people should stick up for Michael. He expected Jeniffer to believe that he and his ex are strictly platonic. 

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Okay, I just watched the ending to the Tell All:  Mike was NOT drunk, alcohol was never mentioned.  He said he went to his female friend's house, the plan was that her fiance was going to be there and at the last minute her fiance stayed with "his boys" which I took to mean his sons.  He slept on her couch, she messaged Natalie the next day to say "Mike id not going to marry you" and Mike was clearly, in my opinion, defamed.  Natalie was RELENTLESS with her "This is why I need to change him, make him believe in God!"

THREE PEOPLE asked her if she loved him:  Shawn (sp?) the host, Angela and Robert and each time she hemmed and hawed (sp?) and I was like THIS IS A NO.  If you hesitate, that is a no.

And Mike, I want to like you, I do, but when you said on Pillow Talk you want to book a flight ASAP to the Ukraine to "work this out" - I am out.  You wanna sign up for a woman who CLEARLY wants to change you?  She can't accept you as you are?  

I was also surprised by the Pillow Tall folks who readily believed Mike was cheating.  With a woman who getting married in, oh I don't know.....A DAY?  Tim Tim was leading the charge.

Mike,m if you stick with Natalie, you can kiss this friendship with this long term friendship with this female friend goodbye.  And any other woman as well.

PS:  Robert, SHUT UP.

Since it was the night before the guys wedding I assumed it was the bachelor party and fiancee got skunky drunk and stayed with a friend instead of coming home because he was drunk. 

I'd assume that Mike was likely in the cups because it was a celebration.  Best friend, before her big day, Mike thinks fiancee is coming home so he is clear to drink and crash on the couch.  I think it was just a celebratory environment, he is out with his "besties" and she is with her bestie celebrating. 

Something very similar happened at my brother's wedding.  The night before, my brother went out with the groomsmen and my sister in law went out with her bridesmaids.  As the only sober person there, it was ..an adventure.  But its a rare, happy occasion where like everyone you love and rarely get to see flies in and is a celebratory mode.  

I think Mike may have called Natalie the next morning from his friends house and told her what happened, because he really didn't think it was a big deal.  Natalie goes nuts and either she reaches out to the friend or the friend is just annoyed and insulted and tells her to shove off. 

Anyways, that's me filling in the blanks best I can. 

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by RealReality

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, Spike said:

Younger guys call their male friends their boys, so I assumed maybe the groom was at a bachelor party and decided to stay out.  Some folks still do it the night before the wedding, as unwise as that may be.

LOL, yep.  It's unwise, but when you're young you can bounce back with 4 hours of sleep.  At my age, I need 8 and a few catnaps. 

[iwasish]

1 hour ago, Meowwww said:

@libgirl2 I lost my mom in July, she had an aortic dissection.  Hardest thing I’ve ever been through and will ever go through.  Hugs to you. 
I think Big Mike is exhausted. That level of crazy and dealing with it 24x7 would do me in. I also don’t think he was talking about Roswell type aliens.  He’s a dude, so aliens just popped out of his mouth lol.  I *think* that he may believe like I do, that there’s a huge spirit world out there on the other side, and it’s a very active world.  I won’t go more into my beliefs lol. But I think he just can’t articulate it well. 
I was bugged by how the cast was all on Natalie’s side.  “I’m so sorry Natalie” ugh. 

The weird thing is that the incident Natalie is so bent out of shape over seems to have happened way before he made that trip to Ukraine. She couldn’t wait to jump his bones and start baby making and church going with him when he got there. It was only after he put the brakes on getting her pregnant and talked about aliens, that she flipped. 
At least he hasn’t told her about the time aliens abducted him and all that testing they did. 

[judylo]

2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Okay, I just watched the ending to the Tell All:  Mike was NOT drunk, alcohol was never mentioned.  He said he went to his female friend's house, the plan was that her fiance was going to be there and at the last minute her fiance stayed with "his boys" which I took to mean his sons.  He slept on her couch, she messaged Natalie the next day to say "Mike id not going to marry you" and Mike was clearly, in my opinion, defamed.  Natalie was RELENTLESS with her "This is why I need to change him, make him believe in God!"

THREE PEOPLE asked her if she loved him:  Shawn (sp?) the host, Angela and Robert and each time she hemmed and hawed (sp?) and I was like THIS IS A NO.  If you hesitate, that is a no.

And Mike, I want to like you, I do, but when you said on Pillow Talk you want to book a flight ASAP to the Ukraine to "work this out" - I am out.  You wanna sign up for a woman who CLEARLY wants to change you?  She can't accept you as you are?  

I was also surprised by the Pillow Tall folks who readily believed Mike was cheating.  With a woman who getting married in, oh I don't know.....A DAY?  Tim Tim was leading the charge.

Mike,m if you stick with Natalie, you can kiss this friendship with this long term friendship with this female friend goodbye.  And any other woman as well.

PS:  Robert, SHUT UP.

I completely agree with you, but there was that snippet where Mike said he was supposed to stay with his aunt. I don’t get that.

[7isBlue]

10 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Good idea.

She can't get Blake to share in the things she likes, like yoga, but maybe she could draft his friends.

 

 

Or maybe Blake’s friends could just be polite and move on? It really bothered me when the female friend said something about Jazmin trying to be friendlier before she (friend) stops caring (read: “Be nicer or I’ll stop caring/ trying.”). She needs to get over herself. 

Edited February 19, 2020 by 7isBlue
Clarity

[Zevious Zoquis]

6 hours ago, Meowwww said:

@libgirl2 I lost my mom in July, she had an aortic dissection.  Hardest thing I’ve ever been through and will ever go through.  Hugs to you. 
I think Big Mike is exhausted. That level of crazy and dealing with it 24x7 would do me in. I also don’t think he was talking about Roswell type aliens.  He’s a dude, so aliens just popped out of his mouth lol.  I *think* that he may believe like I do, that there’s a huge spirit world out there on the other side, and it’s a very active world.  I won’t go more into my beliefs lol. But I think he just can’t articulate it well. 
I was bugged by how the cast was all on Natalie’s side.  “I’m so sorry Natalie” ugh. 

no I'm pretty sure Mike is a straight up ancient aliens guy.  He spends a lot of time watching the UFO shows I bet.  I have no problem with that myself, it's fun.  It's not like it really impacts daily life in any way.  Now if he were a member of some cult that believed a spaceship was coming to take them all away we'd have a problem.  But he's just not a religious person and that's fine.  

[libgirl2]

7 hours ago, Meowwww said:

@libgirl2 I lost my mom in July, she had an aortic dissection.  Hardest thing I’ve ever been through and will ever go through.  Hugs to you. 
 

Hugs to you too.

7 hours ago, geej said:

i was so very touched by what Anny' told us about her probably not able to have  children, since all her years she did not use protection. That made what granporn asked about birth control, even worse. It reminded me that when anyone asked personal questions , they can set off real pain to hear. Anny handled herself well thru-out the "Tell Nothing". Did i also hear her say "sometimes noboby wants to have baby? or something like that. Her love for Grayson always came thru. I think all most of the bickering and producer set ups, were for show and now Anny showed us her real relationships in america are healthier than we are lead to belive. He gets defensive trying to make sure the drama stays. he sees this pay check. they both do. I like her.

I feel bad for her but maybe its for the best considering Robert has 5 kids already. And maybe she doesn't want a baby and is content with Grayson

Edited February 19, 2020 by libgirl2

[Opine]

Tania - Did someone tell her that she should open her eyes as wide as she possibly can so that they looked bigger?  No girl, when the whites show around the entire eye you just look crazy.  Your orange tan clashed with your red dress.  But THANK YOU for wearing a bra!

Angela - Maybe we should change her name to MANgela!  Did no one else notice that the tshirt under the duster was tied in the lower belly region giving her the side view of a woman with a slightly erect but very small man part? Now that was funny.

 

 

 

[Jeanne222]

Does Blake think any girl, let alone stick up her ass Jasmine, would enjoy his terrible rapping with a stupid mask on his head???

His group is terrible.  I don't like rap but I've listened enough to know good and bad rap!  His silly friends are crazy thinking they can make it in the rap world!

Then there is Natalie!  I hardly even know their storyline because I'm two months in trying to mimic how she holds her mouth and teeth when she mumbles!

Try it!  It ain't easy!!!!

[Spike]

7 hours ago, iwasish said:

The weird thing is that the incident Natalie is so bent out of shape over seems to have happened way before he made that trip to Ukraine. She couldn’t wait to jump his bones and start baby making and church going with him when he got there. It was only after he put the brakes on getting her pregnant and talked about aliens, that she flipped. 
At least he hasn’t told her about the time aliens abducted him and all that testing they did. 

And then it didn’t help that he told her he is in debt.

1 hour ago, Opine said:

Your orange tan clashed with your red dress. 

Funny that she would model the complexion of someone she clearly despises.

Edited February 19, 2020 by Spike

[Spike]

1 hour ago, Opine said:

Tania - Did someone tell her that she should open her eyes as wide as she possibly can so that they looked bigger?  No girl, when the whites show around the entire eye you just look crazy.  Your orange tan clashed with your red dress.  But THANK YOU for wearing a bra!

Angela - Maybe we should change her name to MANgela!  Did no one else notice that the tshirt under the duster was tied in the lower belly region giving her the side view of a woman with a slightly erect but very small man part? Now that was funny.

 

 

 

Well If there is ever a Sam Kinison bio pic Angela looks and acts the part.

[brilliantbreakfast]

On 2/18/2020 at 12:11 AM, Leilani said:

I nominate the three Goofballs for a stint on Pillow Talk.

THIS MUST HAPPEN.

[Sir RaiderDuck OMS]

When Angela said "Come on, Michael. We're leaving!" I half-expected her to just pick up the monitor and carry it out with her. And it's impossible for her to be "the classiest trashiest woman". It's like saying you're the "tallest shortest guy;" the two adjectives mean the opposite of each other.

What was the purpose of those three now-former friends of Michael's, anyway? All they did was mock Angela and disappear.

Edited February 19, 2020 by Sir RaiderDuck OMS
Because "her" and "here" are different words