S02.E13: Brothers, Babies and Breakdowns

[greekmom]

36 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Wouldn't the term actually be grand uncle? Dan is Harris's grandfather, his brother should be her grand uncle. He would refer to Harris as his grand niece, not his great niece. The term "great" implies another generation - i.e. your grandfather's father is your great grandfather. Your great grandfather's brother would be your great grand uncle.

It threw me when Dan referred to Ed Jr. as Harris's "great uncle." My niece's child is my grand niece. 

I think either is correct as per google: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/192013/what-do-you-call-your-grand-fathers-brother-grand-v-great

[Snow Apple]

1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

Gee, must be nice to be unemployed, living in your girlfriend's father's home, 

Ben's living there now? I must have missed that episode. I thought he was just staying over for quality time with Darlene and the convenience of this week's plot.

[peacheslatour]

16 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I kinda wonder if he was just lying when he said he didn't feel anything. Like, it's one of those things he wants to believe and claim is true, but which he knows deep down isn't. 'Cause yeah, I agree that people who don't feel anything over a death don't get all angry about the deceased the way he did. 

This is what I think too. When Becky ran off and got married he just completely shut down. He wouldn't talk about it or find any way of expressing his pain than to be angry. Same with his mom's mental illness. Dan's coping reflex has always been denial and fury.

[UsernameFatigue]

3 hours ago, iMonrey said:

 

I'm also irritated with Ben pushing Darlene to have a baby. In the first place it's a cliche. In the second place it's insulting to imply that a woman who doesn't want a baby needs to change her mind. It's bad enough with a younger woman but it's ten times worse for a woman who's in her mid 40s and already has two children. Sorry, Ben. If having a baby was that important to you, you should have acted on that sooner. 

So we are to believe that after Ben spends a short time with Little Bev (hate hate hate that name) he suddenly wants a baby, something that he has never mentioned to Darlene before? I wouldn't let him adopt a pet, let alone entertain having a kid with someone who apparently thinks parenthood should happen on a whim. 

I hate it when sitcom writers think that it is entertaining for 40 something women to be written as continuing to have children,  no matter what their circumstances are.  I have stopped watching sitcoms when a baby has been written into the show, including Modern Family when senior citizen Jay Pritchard became a father again, and Blackish when Bow had another kid. It is lazy writing, IMO. If the writers continue down this road (even talking about the possibility) it may be enough for me to turn the channel. 

[Bastet]

11 minutes ago, Snow Apple said:

Ben's living there now? I must have missed that episode. I thought he was just staying over for quality time with Darlene and the convenience of this week's plot.

I don't think he lives there, I think he lives wherever we saw him in the episode where they met with the bank representative.   When the scene in bed started, I thought, "Why are you two spending the night at her place - which is packed to the rafters with people - instead of yours?"  And then realized, oh, to facilitate this dumb-ass "I want a baby" plot.

[DB in CMH]

That would have been a pretty good episode had they not pretended that Crystal didn't exist.

[peacheslatour]

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Little Bev (hate hate hate that name) 

So do I. They could have gone with Rosie or Danielle or even Audrey and it would have been a sweeter name for a little girl.

[UsernameFatigue]

On 2/19/2020 at 2:27 PM, peacheslatour said:

So do I. They could have gone with Rosie or Danielle or even Audrey and it would have been a sweeter name for a little girl.

While I don't like the name Bev, adding, "little" every time they refer to the baby is irritating. My hubby has a nephew who is named after his dad, The dad is Jim, and son is Jimmy. But his whole life he has been referred to as Little Jimmy. He is a 40 year old husband and father, and his family still calls him that. I am sure that TPTB would never have gone for Rosie - no matter how much that actually would have made sense. But pretty much any other name would have been better. Heck, Conner Conner would have been an improvement - lol. 

Edited February 25, 2020 by UsernameFatigue

[UYI]

4 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I thought the episode was a misfire all around. Everyone has pretty much covered how inconsistent it's been regarding Ed Jr. What I found equally appalling is that apparently Jackie and Becky went through with their ill-advised stew plan. Really? Stew? How many people like stew enough to keep this restaurant afloat? Dumbest idea ever.

 

Meanwhile I'm just wondering if they have loose meat sandwiches again. 😄  

[babyhouseman]

I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only one wondering why there wasn't a mention of Crystal. Even Fuller House was better at family details. 

[Not4Me]

11 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

This Darlene at least matured enough to talk about it and talk through what was scary to her unlike when she was younger and said NO and didn't budge ,,... the writers for some reason have only made her character grow and have stunted the rest of the family which is a shame

So true, and even Darlene by the sound of this episode is still making terrible decisions. I stopped watching the show after that awful  Thanksgiving episode, and just checking in on the recaps and it sounds like I’m not missing much. These characters have just regressed into one-note parodies, largely because of lazy writing for cheap laughs and no regard for the history that drew in the original fans. Now I feel better that I’m done with the show.

[kitkat343]

On 11/17/2019 at 8:11 PM, oakville said:

 

8 hours ago, ams1001 said:

How long have they actually been together, anyway? I feel like it hasn't been long enough to be contemplating having a kid.

They’ve been together for awhile, but it hasn’t been that long since Darlene cheated on him.  Not just once, but had an entire relationship with David.  This, combined with the fact that these two can’t even support themselves and the children they already have, makes this plot insane.  

[Brn2bwild]

On 2/18/2020 at 10:26 PM, sheetmoss said:

Debbie, you know Mickey is married to your brother Ian....stop hitting on him.

So Shameless😉

OMG, I thought he looked familiar!

ETA, an article describes him as 21 years old, which does not jive with the year he was born on Roseanne (1995).  What is with these shows not keeping the younger characters' ages accurate?  First Harris, now this?

Edited February 20, 2020 by Brn2bwild

[ItCouldBeWorse]

On 2/19/2020 at 12:46 PM, iMonrey said:

Stew? How many people like stew enough to keep this restaurant afloat?

Don't know about that, but Jackie tasting some from the ladle and then sticking it back in the pot is gross.

Edited February 21, 2020 by ItCouldBeWorse

[bunnyblue]

I was prepared to be extremely annoyed by the whole Dan/Ed Jr./Crystal/Ed Sr. wonky relationships, but after watching the episode I'm not bothered too much anymore. Going by what Dan said to Ed Jr. about his letters being returned to him unopened for 20 years, I'm of the opinion that, for whatever reason, Crystal and Ed Sr. divorced long ago and Ed got custody of the kids. Ed Jr. said the house he was cleaning out was his father's...no mention of Crystal living there; and I don't believe Crystal would ever live in that mess of a house. Plus we know Crystal was still friends with the Conners up until last year. So that's why I think Big Ed had the kids all these years and he's to blame for Dan not knowing his 2 younger siblings. The part I find toughest to believe, though, is that old-ass Ed managed to raise 2 kids on his own.

I know Darlene even considering having a baby right now is a bad idea, but Ben is just so damn perfect (except for not having a job, lol) that I want them to give it a try. My ovaries damn near burst watching Ben play with little Bev. I loved Darlene's baby contract and also how Ben handled all 4 kids. I also liked how Ben listed all the ways he is far more reliable than David. I honestly don't even miss David anymore; if he reappears it better not be for another go round of this tired triangle. He needs to parent his kids not interfere with Darlene and Ben.

I couldn't help but notice this episode how freakin' good Lecy/Becky looks. She does not look like a woman in her mid-40's.

Why does Dwight seem so familiar? Was he part of the original show's run?

 

[Pallas]

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ETA, an article describes him as 21 years old, which does not jive with the year he was born on Roseanne (1995).

The TVLine article with that description appeared in November, before the show cast an actor closer to 40 than 30 -- that is, what would be Ed, Jr.'s age in the continual timeline. So maybe the character we saw is in his mid-thirities, which would allow for a far more credible backstory around his parents' divorce and custody arrangements. The only problem there, then, is that Harris took one look and hit on a man twice her age.

[TV Diva Queen]

is this Dwight the same actor that played Dwight in the original recipe?

7 hours ago, bunnyblue said:

I was prepared to be extremely annoyed by the whole Dan/Ed Jr./Crystal/Ed Sr. wonky relationships, but after watching the episode I'm not bothered too much anymore. Going by what Dan said to Ed Jr. about his letters being returned to him unopened for 20 years, I'm of the opinion that, for whatever reason, Crystal and Ed Sr. divorced long ago and Ed got custody of the kids. Ed Jr. said the house he was cleaning out was his father's...no mention of Crystal living there; and I don't believe Crystal would ever live in that mess of a house. Plus we know Crystal was still friends with the Conners up until last year. So that's why I think Big Ed had the kids all these years and he's to blame for Dan not knowing his 2 younger siblings. The part I find toughest to believe, though, is that old-ass Ed managed to raise 2 kids on his own.

I know Darlene even considering having a baby right now is a bad idea, but Ben is just so damn perfect (except for not having a job, lol) that I want them to give it a try. My ovaries damn near burst watching Ben play with little Bev. I loved Darlene's baby contract and also how Ben handled all 4 kids. I also liked how Ben listed all the ways he is far more reliable than David. I honestly don't even miss David anymore; if he reappears it better not be for another go round of this tired triangle. He needs to parent his kids not interfere with Darlene and Ben.

I couldn't help but notice this episode how freakin' good Lecy/Becky looks. She does not look like a woman in her mid-40's.

Why does Dwight seem so familiar? Was he part of the original show's run?

 

ha!  I just posted  about Dwight.  There was a Dwight in the early early seasons, usually hanging in the back yard, fixing cars, drinking beer.  

[UYI]

10 hours ago, Brn2bwild said:

OMG, I thought he looked familiar!

ETA, an article describes him as 21 years old, which does not jive with the year he was born on Roseanne (1995).  What is with these shows not keeping the younger characters' ages accurate?  First Harris, now this?

Do you mean Little Ed? Because he was born in 1990. Jerry was born in 1995 (and Andy the year before that). 

Of course, Harris was born in 1997, and obviously she's younger than she should be now, too. 

ETA: Scratch that, I think Little Ed was actually born in 1991, as he was born between seasons three and four. Ugh, this messy timeline! 

Edited February 20, 2020 by UYI

[Bastet]

1 hour ago, TV Diva Queen said:

is this Dwight the same actor that played Dwight in the original recipe?

No.  Dan's friend Dwight in Roseanne was played by William Sadler.  I just looked up the actor playing this Dwight, and his name is Stephen Monroe Taylor.

[iMonrey]

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That would have been a pretty good episode had they not pretended that Crystal didn't exist.

The whole thing is baffling. Back when we saw Crystal on the Roseanne reboot and she was working on a riverboat casino, everyone was asking if she was still married to Ed and/or if Ed was still alive. Here we had the perfect opportunity to address it and the writers blew it big time. 

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Crystal and Ed Sr. divorced long ago and Ed got custody of the kids. 

Except that Darlene said after Ed had a second family he ghosted them. That second family was . . . Crystal and Lonnie, plus Ed Jr. and the baby girl. We know Crystal didn't ghost the Conners. And I find it highly unlikely she'd lose custody of her kids to Ed or that she would be so estranged from them that Ed could keep them away from the Conners for 20 years. 

DB in CMH is right, for plot purposes, Crystal simply did not exist in this episode.

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Don't know about that, but Jackie tasting some from the ladle and then sticking it back in the pot is gross.

I hate to break it to you, but you might want to steer clear of most restaurants. That's a fairly common thing for chefs to do.

[JenLily]

On 2/19/2020 at 11:47 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

they de aged him to 21? WTF? Why? so apparently everyone on this show waits till around or after 40 to start popping out children like tic taks? The writers are really doing their best to just fuck with everything on this show what next his sister will be 13 and not crystals baby girl that she always wanted?? Continuity really just has been shit all over ...

 

4 hours ago, UYI said:

Do you mean Little Ed? Because he was born in 1990. Jerry was born in 1995 (and Andy the year before that). 

Of course, Harris was born in 1997, and obviously she's younger than she should be now, too. 

ETA: Scratch that, I think Little Ed was actually born in 1991, as he was born between seasons three and four. Ugh, this messy timeline! 

Little Ed was born in 1992 (season 4, episode 22), which would make him around 27/28 right now. Harris was born in '97 which would make her around 22/23 now. Seems they de-aged both the kids about 6 or 7 years so I guess yay for that bit of consistency? 🤷‍♀️

I can't deal with the actor playing Little Ed anyway because he's always going to be the little asshole that murdered the cute ME on L&O: SVU. 😊

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

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Crystal and Ed Sr. divorced long ago and Ed got custody of the kids. 

Except that Darlene said after Ed had a second family he ghosted them. That second family was . . . Crystal and Lonnie, plus Ed Jr. and the baby girl. We know Crystal didn't ghost the Conners. And I find it highly unlikely she'd lose custody of her kids to Ed or that she would be so estranged from them that Ed could keep them away from the Conners for 20 years. 

DB in CMH is right, for plot purposes, Crystal simply did not exist in this episode.

The only way any of this makes sense to me is if the writers decided to dismiss Crystal marrying Ed altogether and Ed had Little Ed and Angela with a totally different, never-introduced-to-the-audience woman.

[Keywestclubkid]

30 minutes ago, JenLily said:

The only way any of this makes sense to me is if the writers decided to dismiss Crystal marrying Ed altogether and Ed had Little Ed and Angela with a totally different, never-introduced-to-the-audience woman.

I wouldn’t put that past the writers ... it’s just been super lazy writing all the way through 

[UYI]

4 hours ago, JenLily said:

 

Little Ed was born in 1992 (season 4, episode 22), which would make him around 27/28 right now. Harris was born in '97 which would make her around 22/23 now. Seems they de-aged both the kids about 6 or 7 years so I guess yay for that bit of consistency? 🤷‍♀️

 

No, that was Angela (Roseanne and Jackie wanted to be there, but Roseanne was feuding with Bonnie and intentionally left the phone off the hook so she couldn't call her, therefore missing the call when Crystal went into labor--"Well, Crystal just gave birth to a baby girl and we missed it, because YOU'RE AN IDIOT!")--Little Ed was born between seasons three and four (as in, off screen during the show's summer hiatus in 1991); his birth wasn't shown onscreen. 

This whole thing now is definitely still confusing, though. 

Edited February 21, 2020 by UYI

[Keywestclubkid]

19 hours ago, UYI said:

No, that was Angela (Roseanne and Jackie wanted to be there, but Roseanne was feuding with Bonnie and intentionally left the phone off the hook so she couldn't call her, therefore missing the call when Crystal went into labor--"Well, Crystal just gave birth to a baby girl and we missed it, because YOU'RE AN IDIOT!")--Little Ed was born between seasons three and four (as in, off screen during the show's summer hiatus in 1991); his birth wasn't shown onscreen. 

This whole thing now is definitely still confusing, though. 

Isn't it sad that fans of this show know more details about past plots and characters than the freaking writers who seem to never have seen an episode of the original show in their life? 

[iMonrey]

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The only way any of this makes sense to me is if the writers decided to dismiss Crystal marrying Ed altogether and Ed had Little Ed and Angela with a totally different, never-introduced-to-the-audience woman.

Then why give the kids the same names as Crystal did? Baffling. (Although technically I guess we do not know if Ed Jr.'s sister's name is Angela, he did not refer to her by name in this episode.)

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Isn't it sad that fans of this show know more details about past plots and characters than the freaking writers who seem to never have seen an episode of the original show in their life? 

I think it's more likely they simply don't care and don't expect us to remember those pesky details.

[peacheslatour]

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Then why give the kids the same names as Crystal did? Baffling. (Although technically I guess we do not know if Ed Jr.'s sister's name is Angela, he did not refer to her by name in this episode.)

Wouldn't the Conner kids have referred to their Aunt Angela at some point?

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I think it's more likely they simply don't care and don't expect us to remember those pesky details.

This is probably the answer. They think we're all idiots.

[BeachDays]

So I agree with the basic consensus for this ep-  it was funny (Jackie and Becky), annoying (no Crystal mention), and infuriating (new baby discussion).   

[love2lovebadtv]

On 2/18/2020 at 11:43 PM, Bastet said:

Oh, for Pete's sake!  Why aren't women on TV ever actually done having kids?  (Yes, I know - sexism and love of "drah-ma").  This is stupid. 

Ben, when you date a woman in her 40s who already has two kids, both of whom are closer to grown than to little kids, you have to understand she's probably not having more and make your choices accordingly.  She's not "on the fence" when she says no, she doesn't fucking want one. 

Darlene, call upon some semblance of your practicality and strength and remember that you don't want another, you love Ben but don't want to start over as a parent, and "a baby will just make us so much better" is stupid, and don't give into this crap.

This better not carry on.  As funny as Harris and Mark as punitive damages is, this is no joke - women get pressured into this crap all the time, and it should be unequivocally shut down.  Gods, I'm irritated.

Speaking of stupid and irritating, the Ed Jr. storyline.  In the original series, we saw Roseanne, Dan, and their kids interact with Crystal and Lonnie, then Crystal, Ed, and Lonnie, then adding Little Ed and later Angela (although her much less).  Crystal has appeared in the revival season and this spinoff.  So how are they learning of Ed's death via obituary rather than her? 

It's no stretch to say Crystal and Ed divorced, given his repeating of old patterns that Dan warned her about from jump, so even if she's that removed from Ed's life today that she doesn't even know he's dead before the paper does, that wouldn't explain a total lack of contact between any and all of the various family members all this time without an additional explanation, which wouldn't have been all that hard to invent but which the writers didn't bother to provide. 

"Nobody could sell a load of crap better than that guy" is absolutely Dan.  "I didn't feel anything when I found out he  died" isn't, given his conflicting emotions (more negative than positive, but still a pull); if that's the place he's reached, there needs to be some foundation for it.  And the grandkids loved Ed; if he up and abandoned everyone later, fine, in terms of the their reaction now, but how would such a total bounce from the family not mean Crystal - still in town, still part of everyone's life - had raised Little Ed and Angela, meaning the "Who's this guy?" thing about Ed Jr. from the whole family still doesn't work, nor does Ed Jr. being all in for his dad.

This episode made me cranky.

"You said my cervix was where they filmed Golden Girls" was stellar, and there were some other good lines.  But they're overshadowed.

Also, is the beret this show's chicken shirt?  Because now Dan is wearing some sort of beret-beanie hybrid that looks nothing like Dan (in the initial Lunchbox scene, where he's making some final repairs and the cook gets dismembered).

Darlene didn't seem like having another child was completely out of the question. She has some valid concerns but she wouldn't be the first 40-something to have a baby after having older children with someone else. Part of her concern was about things that could change. But is he living there now? 

[ChicksDigScars]

On 2/19/2020 at 12:46 PM, iMonrey said:

I thought the episode was a misfire all around. Everyone has pretty much covered how inconsistent it's been regarding Ed Jr. What I found equally appalling is that apparently Jackie and Becky went through with their ill-advised stew plan. Really? Stew? How many people like stew enough to keep this restaurant afloat? Dumbest idea ever.

 

And Jackie tasting said stew on a spoon from the pot, then putting the spoon back INTO the stew after she ate off it. EWWWWWW. 

Joining the WTF Club in regards to Little Ed (said in Crystal's "Born in Landford but had a father that was from Arkansas" drawl). I can buy that Crystal and Ed got divorced and that Ed was living alone in the Hoarding House. Crystal's house was always nice and MUCH cleaner than Chateau Conner (and a lot more pink and ruffled). She wouldn't have been living in that filth. I can't buy that Crystal would be friendly with the family all these years and not let her kids see any of them. And I can't buy that she'd give her kids up for Ed, a travelling salesman who is always on the road, to raise and wouldn't have had control over the situation. Even if he had retired. I can't see him raising the kids over their Avon Lady happy housewife Mom. She wasn't Mrs. Healy, for god's sake. I always got the impression that Crystal loved that wife/mom/family happy homemaker shit.

Therefore, Dan not seeing Big Ed all these year is plausible. Not seeing Little Ed or Angela is NOT. To the point that he didn't recognize the kid when he walked into that house. Lazy writing. At least TRY to make an attempt to honor Roseanne history. Besides the abomination that was Season Nine, of course.  

Put this on the shelf with the Mystery of the Missing Andy and Jerry, and How Mark Died.

Harris hitting on her Great Uncle was awesome, though. I actually enjoyed a scene with her in it. It's a miracle. 

Edited February 22, 2020 by ChicksDigScars

[peacheslatour]

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Crystal's house was always nice and MUCH cleaner than Chateau Conner (and a lot more pink and ruffled). She wouldn't have been living in that filth. 

Not only that but Crystal always had more money than the Conners. She had that Mary Kay line or whatever and even though she was a single mom, her power was never shut off, she seemed comfortable and Lonnie never got in any trouble.

[ChicksDigScars]

Besides, as I'm sitting here watching the Saturday afternoon TVLand Roseanne marathon, I can't see Roseanne sitting back for 25 years and not seeing Crystal's kids, especially since her husband and kids are actually RELATED to them. She tried to run EVERYONE'S life. Can you actually see her not trying to meddle in Little Ed and Angela's? 

[peacheslatour]

8 minutes ago, ChicksDigScars said:

Besides, as I'm sitting here watching the Saturday afternoon TVLand Roseanne marathon, I can't see Roseanne sitting back for 25 years and not seeing Crystal's kids, especially since her husband and kids are actually RELATED to them. She tried to run EVERYONE'S life. Can you actually see her not trying to meddle in Little Ed and Angela's? 

Lol. No, I can not.

[retired watcher]

On 2/19/2020 at 3:47 PM, iMonrey said:

Wouldn't the term actually be grand uncle? Dan is Harris's grandfather, his brother should be her grand uncle. He would refer to Harris as his grand niece, not his great niece. The term "great" implies another generation - i.e. your grandfather's father is your great grandfather. Your great grandfather's brother would be your great grand uncle.

It threw me when Dan referred to Ed Jr. as Harris's "great uncle." My niece's child is my grand niece. 

There is no such term as grand uncle, aunt, niece, or nephew. Your grandfather's brother is your great uncle. My brother's granddaughter is my great niece. grand is only for grand parents and grand children.

[Yeah No]

2 hours ago, retired watcher said:

There is no such term as grand uncle, aunt, niece, or nephew. Your grandfather's brother is your great uncle. My brother's granddaughter is my great niece. grand is only for grand parents and grand children.

Not according to this article in Family Tree Magazine.  It appears that genealogists say it's grand uncle but in common usage people usually say great-uncle.  Technically the genealogists have a solid argument for their way, but I think everyone else is too used to using great in place of grand.

[ItsHelloPattiagain]

On 2/20/2020 at 1:24 PM, iMonrey said:

On 2/20/2020 at 5:22 PM, UYI said:

No, that was Angela (Roseanne and Jackie wanted to be there, but Roseanne was feuding with Bonnie and intentionally left the phone off the hook so she couldn't call her, therefore missing the call when Crystal went into labor-

 

Yep, Crystal named the baby Angela ("maybe you'll get the girl you always wanted").  It's a shame that the writers aren't watching the old shows for continuity since there are a good number of us "superfans" watching (and the Original Roseanne shows are playing every weekend on TV Land). But they are stealing ideas from them (Lunchbox Part Deaux anyone?) 

I'm wishing they had a big reunion show with a bunch of lost family members showing up - Andy, Jerry, Angela, even Lonnie. And can you imagine if Fred showed up with a new wife? I'm guessing by now Auntie Barbara has passed. 

[peacheslatour]

30 minutes ago, ItsHelloPattiagain said:

Yep, Crystal named the baby Angela ("maybe you'll get the girl you always wanted").  It's a shame that the writers aren't watching the old shows for continuity since there are a good number of us "superfans" watching (and the Original Roseanne shows are playing every weekend on TV Land). But they are stealing ideas from them (Lunchbox Part Deaux anyone?) 

I'm wishing they had a big reunion show with a bunch of lost family members showing up - Andy, Jerry, Angela, even Lonnie. And can you imagine if Fred showed up with a new wife? I'm guessing by now Auntie Barbara has passed. 

Michael O'Keefe has played one too many wife beaters and serial killers on the various Law & Orders to ever be "Fred" again.

[geauxaway]

So, they are really banking ALL their money on a STEW restaurant?  Like, this is for real?  Even the word STEW is kinda dumb sounding.  And I’m sorry, but stew to me is like the leftovers thrown together before it’s about to be off.  Here’sssssss your stewwwww.  Yah, no thanks.  Especially if I walked in and see Jackie’s crazy ass.

 A diner?  Sure.  A “stew” restaurant?  Nope.  I’ll just run over to the Panera Bread and get my you pick 2. 
 

Who is going to want stew May - September?

Edited February 24, 2020 by geauxaway

[Meushell]

Why would Dan write all those letters, instead of driving over? Especially after the first “Resident not here” return in his dad’s handwriting?

Are we supposed to believe that, of all people, Roseanne didn’t push for the siblings to know each other? Either through Crystal or Ed or both, if Dan was being stubborn?

Or all the other issues that has been already addressed on this thread?

At this point, I’m willing to believe Dan kicked his father and siblings out of his life, felt bad when called out on it, went home, wrote the letters, forged his Dad’s writing, then came back. That would actually make more sense than what the show told us.

[Mr. Sparkle]

6 hours ago, geauxaway said:

So, they are really banking ALL their money on a STEW restaurant?  Like, this is for real?  Even the word STEW is kinda dumb sounding.  And I’m sorry, but stew to me is like the leftovers thrown together before it’s about to be off.  Here’sssssss your stewwwww.  Yah, no thanks.  Especially if I walked in and see Jackie’s crazy ass.

 A diner?  Sure.  A “stew” restaurant?  Nope.  I’ll just run over to the Panera Bread and get my you pick 2. 
 

Who is going to want stew May - September?

Now I'm saying "stew" in my head over & over and kind of giggling at my desk. 

[iMonrey]

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Original Roseanne shows are playing every weekend on TV Land). 
 

Are they? I thought they had yanked those off the air after the Roseanne scandal. I get people have gotten over it.

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So, they are really banking ALL their money on a STEW restaurant?  Like, this is for real?  Even the word STEW is kinda dumb sounding.  And I’m sorry, but stew to me is like the leftovers thrown together before it’s about to be off.  Here’sssssss your stewwwww.  Yah, no thanks.

First of all I would assume a diner called The Lunch Box would be doing most of their business during the lunch hour. I can't believe many people (if any) would want stew for lunch. And even if you like stew, that's not typically something you'd go out to a restaurant or diner for. 

[UYI]

26 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Are they? I thought they had yanked those off the air after the Roseanne scandal. I get people have gotten over it.

 

For a brief period, it was. It was brought back at some point later on, at least by TV Land, not sure about any other channel, though. 

[Annber03]

I think CMT shows reruns as well? Or some other channel like that.

[Browncoat]

TVLand shows Roseanne episodes all day on Saturdays.  This past Saturday, they were back to the early years.

[Ottis]

What’s with all the “awwwww” piped-in audience noise? So sappy and dumb. The Connors is starting to sound like  a Disney Channel kids show. Also? Can we stop with baby talk? Don’t care, and the last thing these people need is another baby. Move on. 
 

[UYI]

16 hours ago, Ottis said:

What’s with all the “awwwww” piped-in audience noise? So sappy and dumb. The Connors is starting to sound like  a Disney Channel kids show. 
 

I actually think it might be real. Baby Bev IS really cute. 

And in fairness, the original series had a few scattered moments like that too, but again, they were rare. For example, in the season 5 premiere, DJ offers Roseanne leftover birthday money when they're about to lose the bike shop, saying he still has some. The audience goes "aww", as does Roseanne, but at the same time she undercuts it with humor by saying "No you don't, but thanks anyway."

I'm just saying. 🙂 

[peacheslatour]

2 minutes ago, UYI said:

I actually think it might be real. Baby Bev IS really cute. 

And in fairness, the original series had a few scattered moments like that too, but again, they were rare. For example, in the season 5 premiere, DJ offers Roseanne leftover birthday money when they're about to lose the bike shop, saying he still has some. The audience goes "aww", as does Roseanne, but at the same time she undercuts it with humor by saying "No you don't, but thanks anyway."

I'm just saying. 🙂 

There was a scene where Roseanne was feeding Jerry and discussing some business proposal with him and the audience were just losing their minds.

[ItsHelloPattiagain]

On 2/23/2020 at 6:59 PM, peacheslatour said:

Michael O'Keefe has played one too many wife beaters and serial killers on the various Law & Orders to ever be "Fred" again.

Well, it seems like Jackie is the Queen of Bad Judgement so why not hook back up with the ex-husband that's a serial killer?  She dated the history buff that mooched off her until she found that bra that wasn't hers and threw him out.  Now she couldn't even figure out she was about to embark in the land of threesomes. 

I just want to be continuity in the show. I loved so many of the characters from the first show that I would love to see them popping up again and again. Somehow Little Ed (and I can't help it but I hear Roseanne's voice in my head saying "oooo Wittle Eddddddd") was a bit of a letdown. 

[femmefan1946]

I have a lot of friends who I "talk" with online, meet at conventions and clubs, and before I retired ,worked with closely.

But never knew their addresses or where they lived.
Since Ed was a solitary hoarder, and estranged from Dan, it is not unreasonable that Dan would not recognize the address as his late father's house.

[femmefan1946]

On 2/23/2020 at 10:03 PM, geauxaway said:

So, they are really banking ALL their money on a STEW restaurant?  Like, this is for real?  Even the word STEW is kinda dumb sounding.  And I’m sorry, but stew to me is like the leftovers thrown together before it’s about to be off.  Here’sssssss your stewwwww.  Yah, no thanks.  Especially if I walked in and see Jackie’s crazy ass.

 A diner?  Sure.  A “stew” restaurant?  Nope.  I’ll just run over to the Panera Bread and get my you pick 2. 
 

Who is going to want stew May - September?

Men.

Lanford is a working class town. A bowl of stew with mashed potatoes on the side? Solid meal for a solid man.
Not so much the ladies who lunch.

And 'stew ' covers a lot of dishes.

Chicken and dumplings, Chicken and biscuits, chili, chili con carne, fish or clam chowder.

Chow mein. Chop suey.

Spaghetti bolognaise.

My mum made "mince and tatties" - hamburger stew served over mashed potatoes. Every Wednesday.

And today at lunch in a Thai restaurant I had something that turned out to be a huge plate of spicy ground pork served with fried basil leaves and sticky rice.

 

Not to mention single men who would enjoy a hot comfort meal each day, while making sandwiches and microwave pizza at home for themselves.
 

 

[Mom x 3]

I think the stew idea is stupid, but I want Becky to have a win, so I'll support it.  Jackie is over the top, but it was okay in this episode, and I like how she had she knew how to end that panic attack.  And yea, Jackie, use a TASTING SPOON and put it in the sink.

Darlene has developed Jackie's knack for bad decisions.  A baby at her age and can't even support herself, much less her two existing children.  

In my head I have fanwanked that Ed was a huge asshole to Crystal and also found himself a side piece.  He dumps her and fights tooth and nail for Ed Jr. and Angela, leaving Crystal nearly penniless and having to work at the casino, while marrying the side piece, who raises the kids.  This behavior would obviously have Dan defending Crystal, hence the blowout between the two men, and allow for keeping Dan separate from his siblings.  

Don't take away my dreams, people.