S18.E09: Suit Yourself

[mightysparrow]

1 minute ago, Lemons said:

I’ll say it again.  His family is from Mexico.  They probably were told about the American dream and how great it was on the other side of the border.  So easy to buy a house, a car, have kids.  The ideal country.  Who knows.  But they were not Americans.  

I know everyone’s trying to be politically correct but know your facts.  

Sergio being of Mexican descent is no excuse for his overwhelming ignorance.  If his family was told about the so-called American Dream in Mexico, I'm sure they discovered American REALITY once they arrived in the US.

I have a degree in history, so I know what the 50s were REALLY like.  Unlike Sergio.

 

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, WaltersHair said:

I'm so conflicted by Sergio. He's so annoying with his holier than thou political stories, but he helps and defends Nancy who is the dark horse in the race.

I agree.  

But, I'm glad that the judges called him out on the stupid "political statements" behind his desgins.  Just let a dress be a dress, for cripes' sake!!  

And, as we saw - he had the design first and came up with his "statement" after the fact, so he's making up political statements to work for his design - not the other way around.  

And, to say that life was the best of times in the U.S. in the 1950's to a woman of color, a gay man and a Colombian woman was one of the worst things he could have done.  The 1950's may have been a wonderful life if you were Richie Cunningham's family on Happy Days, but it was tough times for people of color, gay people, people who were not "white bread America", and women who were not traditional, apron wearing, stay at home Moms.  Stupid, stupid, stupid!!  So glad that Elaine called him out on it, and Nina kept it going.  

 

[BlackberryJam]

Quite frankly, Sergio is stupid, but not that stupid.  

[Lady of nod]

53 minutes ago, AwesomO4000 said:

IThoughtSergio'sBackwardsSuitLookedBetterThanTheOriginal *ducks and runs in case of flying rotten tomatoes*

I agree and sorry, I don't get what the big sin was here. So because Celine Dionne wore something 30 years ago, no one should ever make a backwards tuxedo again? They were acting like it was sacrilegious. How many similar dresses have we seen just in this one season? Asymmetrical anyone? Sergio may be an ass ,but you have to seperate the artist from the work. He has made some beautiful pieces.

So disappointed Christian used his save for Brittany.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, SailorGirl said:

Damn Marquise! I dug it! The model definitely helped sell it! 

That model could sell ice to Eskimos (as my grandmother used to say- I know it's not PC, but you get my drift....)!!  He was something!  

[mightysparrow]

6 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I agree.  

But, I'm glad that the judges called him out on the stupid "political statements" behind his desgins.  Just let a dress be a dress, for cripes' sake!!  

And, as we saw - he had the design first and came up with his "statement" after the fact, so he's making up political statements to work for his design - not the other way around.  

And, to say that life was the best of times in the U.S. in the 1950's to a woman of color, a gay man and a Colombian woman was one of the worst things he could have done.  The 1950's may have been a wonderful life if you were Richie Cunningham's family on Happy Days, but it was tough times for people of color, gay people, people who were not "white bread America", and women who were not traditional, apron wearing, stay at home Moms.  Stupid, stupid, stupid!!  So glad that Elaine called him out on it, and Nina kept it going.  

 

Sergio doesn't even know his own history.  It wasn't 'Happy Days' back in the 50s for a gay, Mexican man.  Maybe in his dreams he's a straight, White, 'Ward Cleaver' type but that wasn't the reality for millions of men and women.  And if Sergio wants to talk shit, he's going to have to be able to take it when somebody, with a better education, calls him on it.

Edited February 7, 2020 by mightysparrow

[Ms Blue Jay]

Shavi saying "What?  We won?!" in response to Marquise congratulating him ---- this brought me to tears!

I still love Alan.

So jealous of Chelsey's body - DAMN, girl!

I need the info on Marquise's model pleeeeeeeeaseeeeeeee   he was just… wowowoowow

Google says that Celine Dion and John Galliano's backwards tuxedo was in 1999.  That's only 20 years ago.  I was …… let's just say a kid, but it made a big impression on me.  Not because I liked it or anything.  LOL.  Just because I was obsessed with fashion and the Oscars.  How old is Sergio?  

Edited February 7, 2020 by Ms Blue Jay

[mightysparrow]

1 minute ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Shavi saying "What?  We won?!" in response to Marquise congratulating him ---- this brought me to tears!

THAT was a beautiful moment.  And a real palate cleanser.

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 minute ago, mightysparrow said:

THAT was a beautiful moment.  And a real palate cleanser.

I rewound it like 3 times.  Shavi is so pure!  😪

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, chitowngirl said:

It had better not be a Victoria/Brittany/Sergio finale. Though I could stand Sergio if he’d stop talking about his “causes”. Not that it’s wrong to have them, but he SO didn’t have one this week and he was talking out of his ass.

If Sergio does make it to the finale, will he give a running commentary on all the political statements each of the dresses stand for as the models are walking down the runway?  

 

[Ms Blue Jay]

10 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

That model …  He was something!  

Fine.  As.  HELL.

Edited February 7, 2020 by Ms Blue Jay

[Cotypubby]

Uh Sergio, you know that the 1950s are exactly what the MAGA types want to go back to right? Since you claim to be so politically savvy?

[Ms Blue Jay]

10 minutes ago, Lady of nod said:

I agree and sorry, I don't get what the big sin was here. So because Celine Dionne wore something 30 years ago, no one should ever make a backwards tuxedo again? They were acting like it was sacrilegious. How many similar dresses have we seen just in this one season? Asymmetrical anyone? Sergio may be an ass ,but you have to seperate the artist from the work. He has made some beautiful pieces.

So disappointed Christian used his save for Brittany.

Because everyone thought Sergio was being disingenuous.  Don't say your design was inspired by the country going backwards.

Say your design was inspired by John Galliano in 1999.

He was lying, pure and simple.  If you're inspired by other artists, admit it.  Otherwise, you look like a snake.  He did not "invent" this idea.  If you're in fashion, you should know the history of fashion.  We're not asking him to know what people wore in the 1600's here.  It was a big viral moment before social media even existed.  And it was relatively recent.

Edited February 7, 2020 by Ms Blue Jay

[charming]

I wish Alan could be part of the show somehow. Yeah he’s extra but he just makes me smile.

As soon as Delvin started saying this was his challenge I knew he’d be in the bottom. I’m relieved he gets to stay and couture another day!

Yooooo Marquise’s model was a fucking boss on the runway he worked it. I’m usually not into the womenswear becoming menswear thing but it really worked for this look. I could see an actual celebrity wearing that on the red carpet. 

Edited February 7, 2020 by charming

[mightysparrow]

Just now, Ms Blue Jay said:

Because everyone thought Sergio was being disingenuous.  Don't say your design was inspired by the country going backwards.

Say your design was inspired by John Galliano in 1999.

He was lying, pure and simple.  If you're inspired by other artists, admit it.  Otherwise, you look like a snake.

Exactly.  One look at his designs and it's clear he knows who Christian Dior is and has no problem copying him.  If Sergio had said he wanted to make an homage to Galliano's backward tux, that would have been fine. 

[njbchlover]

39 minutes ago, dbell1 said:

Fuck. That whining witch is still there. And Brittany too. A few weeks ago she swore she was always the center of attention as a child and now she had a rough childhood? Pick one. Christian disappointed me with the save. At top 7, she should have her shit together.

Victoria gave her model hips and the cut on the waist was weird and bunchy. Not excited by her being back in the top.

Sergio is going to preach about the awesome 50’s where the man worked, the womenfolk cooked, and gay people like him would have been shunned. And let’s not even get into civil rights or the way other minorities were treated. Idiot.

Not just a gay man, but a gay man with Mexican immigrant parents!!!  In Texas!!  (Where Mexicans were considered lower than second class citizens in the 50's.)

He would have HATED living during the 1950's!!!!  

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, AwesomO4000 said:

IThoughtSergio'sBackwardsSuitLookedBetterThanTheOriginal *ducks and runs in case of flying rotten tomatoes*

It's easy to improve upon a design you're stealing from, and with the benefit of 20 years of distance from it.

[mightysparrow]

1 minute ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

It's easy to improve upon a design you're stealing from, and with the benefit of 20 years of distance from it.

Bingo!

[Ms Blue Jay]

23 minutes ago, Lemons said:

I’ll say it again.  His family is from Mexico.  They probably were told about the American dream and how great it was on the other side of the border.  So easy to buy a house, a car, have kids.  The ideal country.  Who knows.  But they were not Americans.  

I know everyone’s trying to be politically correct but know your facts.  

Sergio was specifically talking about America.  His whole statement was about America and "Make America Great Again".  he was talking about America going backwards and how it should go all the way back to the 1950s when things were better.

He never brought up Mexico.  I don't know why his statement should be untouchable.  I think it's okay for us to criticize his statement that he chose to make. 

A lot of Americans would rather live in 2020 than the 1950s and Elaine voiced that opinion.

2 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Sergio, Celine Dion wore a backwards tux at some award show back in the day, it is not something new. 
Victoria is bugging me more right now, I hope she’s out this week. 

It was probably when she said "I cannot take another negative criticism about my work."  Oh my god she's starting to make me insane.

[roctavia]

Sergio's look was fine, but as many have said, it's already been done... and also, didn't Nancy do a backwards white shirt in one of the first episodes? I get wanting to mix thing up, but just turning shit around has been done...

I'm like the winning look this week a lot, it has good presence on the runway and the model did sell it very well. 

I also am okay with Brittani being offed, but also being saved. I honestly hate the stupid save, so i'd rather it get used now when there still a good handful of designers left because then we can forget about it and not expect some dumb twist right before the final episodes or something. 

This episode didn't hold my attention as much, so i really don't remember a lot of the looks... I did like Geoffrey's jump suit though.

[Ms Blue Jay]

2 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Are Karli and Thom Brown wearing pants? Thijin (sp?) really walks the hell out of everything. I thought everyone’s was pretty good except Brittany’s. 

I thought Karlie's runway look was really bad.  Maybe it was a Thom Browne design.  Regardless it looked like she was playing rugby all day and had her clothes tattered or something.  I didn't get it.

I DID like her hair though.  And Christian was wearing a really cute outfit this week in the design room - a patterned shirt, green pants, and cute shoes.

[njbchlover]

10 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Because everyone thought Sergio was being disingenuous.  Don't say your design was inspired by the country going backwards.

Say your design was inspired by John Galliano in 1999.

He was lying, pure and simple.  If you're inspired by other artists, admit it.  Otherwise, you look like a snake.  He did not "invent" this idea.  If you're in fashion, you should know the history of fashion.  We're not asking him to know what people wore in the 1600's here.  It was a big viral moment before social media even existed.  And it was relatively recent.

Sergio also bragged during his sketching time talking heads that the backwards tuxedo was something that has NEVER been done before - something totally new.  

I'll never be convinced that he is that ignorant of fashion history.

And add me to the small group of people who did not really like Celine's backward tuxedo jacket (I think that was a last minute decision of Celine's and Galiano's to flip it, so it wasn't even designed that way-which you could tell from the lack of correct tailoring).  I thought that Sergio's dress was very well made - he can definitley tailor the hell out of a garment - and looked great on the model.

There is one thing I remember from a past season of PR - I can't remember who said it, but it was something like "this is a design competition, not a tailoring one", so these designers who are excellent at tailoring need to up their design skills as well.

[Kdel1079]

I wish we got to see and hear more form Sebastian, I love him.

also, wish Brittany was actually out. She’s annoying 

[hula-la]

25 minutes ago, charming said:

Yooooo Marquise’s model was a fucking boss on the runway he worked it. I’m usually not into the womenswear becoming menswear thing but it really worked for this look. I could see an actual celebrity wearing that on the red carpet. 

I agree. I would love to see someone wearing that on the red carpet, and really wish and hope that someone does. Mr. Hula-la was super impressed with it too. Alas, he is not a celebrity, and we have no red carpet in our future, so he won’t be the one wearing it. 

[Fellaway]

My takeaway from this ep...

Delvin is an awful human being.  And, is it my imagination or did Victoria have even more hair?

That's all I got.  What a lackluster bunch of designers.  Not a one of 'em, except maybe Sergio and Dayoung, if she'd stayed, is worth a Christian save.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Haven’t read all the posts yet, so I apologize if someone already covered this, but I am very surprised that Christian said that the difference is satin. That is not correct. My boyfriend owned an exquisite gross grain trimmed tuxedo. I think he purchased it at Paul Stuart. I also purchased a vintage tux jacket. Peacock Blue with a black gross grain shawl collar. A frenemy bullied me into letting her buy the vest, which I, months later, saw lying on her apartment floor. 

 

Why, oh, why, oh, why did I eventually years later throw that tux jacket out....

Edited February 7, 2020 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

Alan cackling about Victoria not even being able to work well with herself!!!!!!

[hoodooznoodooz]

How is it possible that this is the first time I have noticed that Marquise can’t sketch to save his life?

[hoodooznoodooz]

Chelsey was so cute at Mood, singing and teasing Christian.

Who knew so many of these guys could improvise AND sing well? Alan, I had no idea that I actually miss you!

[Samwise979]

Sergio is so confusing. He seems like such an ass in his talking heads and on the runway but seems so nice when just talking with the other designers. Which one is real? 

He definitely didn't think about his political statement this week. I think all he meant was he wished family's could live off one salary. He wasn't thinking about all the negative things about the 50s. 

I think his design was better than Celine's outfit because with Celine's, she decided last minute to wear that jacket backwards so it was not tailored to be worn like that. With Sergio's, his design was meant to be worn backwards and therefore fit the model backwards. No way he didn't know about Celine's look though. How could he not? And also someone mentioned above, Nancy did a backwards shirt earlier in the season so how can he say no one has EVER done it before. 

Delvin, Brittany and Victoria are awful humans. 

I'm glad Christian used his save even though it was on Brittany. At least now it's gone. 

Nancy taking Tyler away from Delvin was a dick move. 

Victoria saying Nancy designs the same thing every week was laughable. 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Samwise979

[hoodooznoodooz]

Sergio’s helper was funny: Let’s protest my elimination.

Maybe Victoria is really talented between the sheets, and that is why her husband is so indulgent/whipped.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Alan’s short Victoria-smack talking heads are too funny!!!!

And Geoffrey is making me want to invest in his company.

(Plus, he has beautiful arms....)

[GaT]

Alan: “Victoria is definitely a solo designer, she does not work well with other people, she barely works well with herself.” HAH!

I couldn’t believe when Victoria criticized Nancy for doing the same thing every week with the same silhouettes. Has she actually looked at the stuff she’s been putting out? How did the judges love her dress? It looked too tight & ill-fitting to me.

The way everyone kept drooling over Marquise’s model felt really harassing to me. If they did that to a woman, it would be a real #metoo thing.

I’m glad Nina brought up Céline Dion’s red carpet backward tux look. That was the first thing I thought of when he brought up what he was doing & how unique it was.

Brittany needed to go home because of those shorts alone, they were awful, and I knew just by the way people were talking & how they kept showing her that Christian was going to save her.

[violet and green]

I think Sergio was correct -- his reverse tuxedo dress had gorgeous pink satin lapels and pink satin buttons, and was... a dress. The Celine Dion Galliano outfit (foul!) was a pantsuit. Aside from dress, with tuxedo details, versus satiny pantsuit with jacket worn backwards, Sergio's neckline was different, the back was different, the front of the dress had panelling. Celine looked really as if she'd just put a satin jacket on backwards for a lark. Sergio's design was beautiful. I can't believe they dinged him for the similarities while praising uneven work by other designers who replicate their own designs week after week.

[Brookside]

The judges kept dinging the contestants for not putting out tuxedos, yet it was okay for Karlie Kloss to be dressed in a cheap looking, ill-fitted schoolboy blazer. 

Edited February 11, 2020 by Brookside
Tense - "it was" not "it's"

[30 Helens]

Sergio‘s brain gymnastics: “I’m doing a backwards dress... what does that mean, politically? Refugees are being marched backwards to Mexico. No, wait, I already did that one. Backwards means...reverse! Reverse discrimination! Why can’t white men catch a break? No, that doesn’t work. Front is back... back to the future! The future depends on going back... to the 1950s! THAT’S IT!!”

Honestly, dude. You know how to make a good looking dress, so just do that. Forget the bullshit commentary.

I’ll say one thing for him; he does seem to have a good heart. If he could only learn to pull his head out of his ass, he might actually become a decent person.

I loved Marquise’s look. Good for him that he managed to pull out a solid comeback.  The win was well deserved.

The editors had me worried for Geoffrey, with all the early focus on how he really needed this. 
 
I think I’ve seen Delvin’s look on Walmart workers. That cummerbund looked just like a weight belt.

 

[LennieBriscoe]

6 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

Marquise’s look was by and far the best of tonight!  But why are all these men’s pants so short ? Is the ankle really “ male cleavage”? Back  in the day we called pants that were above the ankle “ high waters”

That judge apparently does not know the definition of "cleavage."

[jacksgirl]

Just cringe when Sergio opens his mouth. And why did Christian not comment on the similarity of his outfit to Celine Dion's? I realize a lot of it is the editing monkeys, but it seems like Christian is more helpful to some designers than others. I totally get that a designer like Sergio may not be receptive to Christian's advice. But things sure seem skewed this season.

Edited February 7, 2020 by jacksgirl

[bencr]

Whenever a designer says a challenge is in their wheelhouse you can bet dollars to donuts that they'll be in the bottom. 

For some reason Delvin's tuxedo reminded me of Mary Martin's costume in Peter Pan. He was just missing the little hat.

[dleighg]

I don't want to get spoiled because I just started watching, so maybe someone has mentioned this already, but when Christian said "Tuxedo Park is a historic enclave in UPSTATE NY" I cringed. As someone who lives an hour north of New York City, and has to deal with lots of people saying that I therefore live "upstate," I should be used to this. But Tuxedo Park is BARELY north of the New Jersey state line! And I would have to drive SOUTH to get there!

[pasdetrois]

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He was lying, pure and simple.  If you're inspired by other artists, admit it. 

Agreed. Sergio's problem is his megalomania. He thinks he's smarter than everyone else and thought he could put one over with his "No one's ever done a backwards tuxedo." As if he could convince an entire panel of judges. I immediately remembered Celine's look, and I also remembered when women wore their cardigans and their boyfriends' v-neck sweaters backwards. And St. Laurent created his tuxedo Le Smoking look in the 60s.

I also think that Sergio has attached himself to Nancy for strategic reasons.

Thom Browne's inclusion as a judge was impressive; he's so successful, compared to some of the other celebrity "judges" PR has forced on us. A reminder that CFDA plays a role in this season's winner.

I'm thrilled for Marquise, but I liked Geoffrey's design better.

I thought Victoria's dress was boring and underwhelming. Delvin's was horrible. Nancy's was better than the criticism it received. Christian encouraged the use of her print.

I didn't mind the initial smack talking about Nancy, because they all do it occasionally, and are asked by production to comment on each other's looks, but it crossed over to mean, especially Delvin. And blaming Nancy for the busted buttonhole attachment was a real low blow. Christian pushed back on that. Delvin's a nasty piece of work and he would bring headaches to CFDA's process.

Because of CFDA's agenda (sponsoring commercial looks by skilled designers), and Bravo's desire for drama, I think the final three will be Victoria, Brittany and Sergio-or-Delvin.

 

 

Edited February 7, 2020 by pasdetrois

[luna1122]

I'm sorry Delvin took a turn into catty bitchy town last nite. I didn't hate his look, but he was too confident about it.

Sergio is a mess. I don't know if he's a bad person, but he's disingenuous AF, and full of himself and full of shit. His look was pretty. They often--tho definitely not always-are. But he was a teenager when Celine Dion wore that dumb tux, and probably already interested in fashion, and it's bullshit that he never saw it then, or since. But I actually did like his version better. His stupid 50's comment was...stupid.

Sorry Brittany got the save.

Loved Marquise's look, he deserved the win. I could totally see Billy Porter wearing that. And Timothy Chalamet could rock Geoffrey's jumpsuit.

[PepperMonkey]

I'm going to go completely off the rails here and risk flying rotten tomatoes, but out of this lot, aside from Marquise, who I think probably has no real chance to win, Sergio is my favourite and the only one of the remaining designers I could stand to see win. Yes, yes, yes, the political statement of the week was based on watching too much classic tv rather than actually knowing history, but I do agree that he was specifically referring to being able to buy the house, the car, have the kids with a stay at home mom, which was actually thanks to the post-war economy. I'd prefer if he picks up a book here and there rather than watching "Leave it to Beaver" or "Father Knows Best."

Brittany and Delvin are both nasty human beings. We all have those catty tendencies but do you have to SAY OUT LOUD every negative thing you are thinking? I'm so weary of lack of manners anymore, I don't even know what to say. I'm glad Christian used his save on Brittany only because he can't now use it on Victoria, although I don't think that's going to be an issue because Nina will make damn sure Victoria is in the finale. What I don't understand, especially with Nina's background and LOOOOONG career in and around fashion, is how she could think Victoria would learn ANYTHING from CFDA. Sadly, I think Project Runway would be embarrassed by its association with Victoria after she manages to pooh-pooh any attempt at mentorship from CFDA. And, on a petty note, I don't think she's that beautiful and I really thought her tuxedo was kinda trashy with that garter, although I thought the back was really nice.

Other unpopular opinions: I'm not a huge Nancy fan and I'm her age so for me, it's not ageism, although I do believe that's what she's experiencing with the other designers. They think she's old, ergo not cool, strictly based on the fact of being over 60. But her personality is a bit much for me and I can kind of see how she may annoy them, but going back to my previous statement, Brittany and Delvin: can you show some manners and a little respect based on the fact that she had the courage to apply for a show on which "advanced age" is always a negative? It's okay to be fat, and any number of other adjectives, but holy hell, DO NOT GET OLD because you'll suck if you do.

Okay, well end rant, for now and thanks for letting me vent a bit. I don't have much time to post anymore (because job consuming life for now) but I miss it and sometimes I just have to speak my piece. Pretty much the only reason I'm still around PR at all is because I adore Christian and I'm kinda liking Brandon a bit, too. Not so much last season, but he's growing on me.

[kitmerlot1213]

9 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

I have had a hard time with “Dr.Couture” and his arrogance all season, but tonight he was just a mean girl to Nancy. He’s not nearly as good as he thinks he is.

It was bad enough that Delvin, Brittany and Victoria were cutting up on Nancy's design behind her back but then to actually be able to smirk at her as he walked past her and Sergio, knowing she overheard their conversation?  That was shocking in it's cruelty.  He and his fellow mean girl Brittany can go any time.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

Giving a new interpretation of a tuxedo is an interesting challenge because how far can you push it before it isn't a tuxedo anymore? Color choice is important because if you go navy blue, that's playing it safe. If you pick red, you risk making your model look like someone who valet parks cars.

I hated what Karlie was wearing at the beginning of the episode. She looked like a little kid who decided to dress up as a waiter. Her runway outfit looked like an 80s made for tv movie version of a naughty schoolgirl.

Can Sebastian come by and bring me carbs every morning?

Too many of the remaining designers did not take full advantage of having someone in the workroom to help them. I'm a control freak so I get wanting to do everything yourself but you have TWO DAYS. Farm out the simple stuff to your assistant.

I wish that Geoffrey had not made the shoulders so extreme. Christian was right when he said it would make it look dated. I was surprised that Geoffrey didn't use leather accents (like a leather bow tie). I just assumed he would do something like that. I'm not a fan of manpris. They just look like floods to me.

Delvin, I question your taste level based solely upon the fact that your initial instinct for a tuxedo challenge was POWDER BLUE. Tyler knew it was heinous. Christian knew it was terrible. How did everyone but Delvin know this? I get that he was annoyed with Nancy, first for using Tyler as a model and then for breaking the button hole machine, but I laughed SO HARD when Christian suggested that he sew it by hand and then pointedly said that they didn't have a button hole machine on his season and he did just fine.

Whoever said that Delvin's dark green color looked dated was right. I remember seeing blazers that color at the mall in the 00s. What is with that fucking sideways mullet hem? I am so sick of seeing that every week this season. Once again, I hated the flood pants. The corset part was flattering in the front but it was making the back of the jacket wrinkly. He should have either made the jacket more form fitting or found a better way to incorporate the corset so it wouldn't wrinkle the jacket.

OMG, Victoria thinks a leg garter makes a dress look sophisticated? GURL. And somehow Victoria of all people has the nerve to complain that someone else makes the same look every week? HAHAHAHAHAHA. I thought her design looked too similar to what Christian made for Billy Porter. Yet somehow the judges loved what she made again. WHY?

I cracked up when Nancy said she was choosing a print for the pants because that would mean no VPL. Practical - I approve! I wish Nancy had lined the inside of the coat/skirt with a different color. I didn't like seeing the white as her model walked down the runway. I also wish it had been more flowy. It looked really stiff. The white lapels were too big for my taste. I wish she had used bright pink on the lapels for a pop of color.

I hated the shorts that Brittany put on her model. I know she didn't have enough fabric to make pants but ugh. Formal shorts are bad enough but short formal shorts? The thing I liked best is that she used the print intended for the lining as the main material. I also liked the jacket was open wide on the chest but it made the skinny lapels not lie flat and the buttoned waist ended up making it look like too much like a woman's blazer.

Sergio thinks that wearing clothes backwards is thinking outside the box. I guess that means he never saw Celine Dion wearing a white backwards tuxedo by Galliano to the Oscars in 1999. And the kids in Kriss Kross were geniuses! There was a room full of designers so I was surprised that it wasn't until 2/3 of the way through the episode that someone mentioned that Sergio's white backwards tuxedo was a total rip off of what Celine Dion wore a decade ago but Sergio's version was not as well made. If you're going to copy something that iconic, at least use a different color. I also did not like the pastel pink lapels. I totally cracked up at everyone's expressions when Sergio started his story but what kind of person would say that the 1950s were a great time to live? FFS. Yes, I'm sure all the people who weren't allowed to vote or get married back then thought it was just dandy. Did you know that women weren't allowed to open their own bank accounts in the 50s? Sounds like a great time to go back to.

I liked the cut of Marquise's jacket and I liked the train in the back which gave it drama. It definitely helped that he had an awesome model who had a great body and a great walk. I couldn't decide if I liked the horizontal stripes of fabric or not. The only thing I didn't like was the high turtleneck of the white shirt.

Sergio being genuinely kind and supportive to Nancy isn't enough to totally redeem him, but it's helping a little.

Edited February 7, 2020 by ElectricBoogaloo

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11 hours ago, raven said:

How cute to bring back the eliminated designers in suits and tuxes.  I like the twist that they're picking who to work with.

I'm panicking a little with the early Geoffrey focus.

I hated that there was one more 'former' than there is 'current'.  That young lady shouldn't have been left to stand on that stage, unpicked.  Awful.

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10 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I don’t like the way Delvin and Brittany are treating Nancy. I hope her design wins over theirs. 

She would have had to design with cat litter to not win over theirs.

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12 minutes ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

It was bad enough that Delvin, Brittany and Victoria were cutting up on Nancy's design behind her back but then to actually be able to smirk at her as he walked past her and Sergio, knowing she overheard their conversation?  That was shocking in it's cruelty.  He and his fellow mean girl Brittany can go any time.

I really have no issue with people judging the work of others. It is a competition and that is a natural outcome of these people living together. I saw Delvin’s reaction as more sheepish and generally agree with his assessment if the work of others.

Why didn’t they get any plus size male models? Could it be that the show drips of hypocrisy and it rife with producer shenanigans.....no that would take away from the pure nature of good clean fashion competition.

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10 hours ago, BlackberryJam said:

Victoria’s was a pulling mess. Ugh.

I sort of agree with this.  If the goal is to highlight the model's curves, then mission accomplished.  If the goal is to highlight the well-constructed and designed garment, nah.

10 hours ago, Archer27 said:

And then Sergio looked like such an ignoramus about claiming to know cultural, political, societal, and gender issues of the 50s, yet did had no idea of the 1996 Celine Dion backwards suit...it seemed so disingenuous.    

...it was a blatant lie.

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7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

How is it possible that this is the first time I have noticed that Marquise can’t sketch to save his life?

Sort of makes sense, considering he's self-taught.  I would imagine that design schools have an illustrating curriculum?