S18.E09: Suit Yourself

[DaphneCat]

I just figured out why Victoria's dress is so unflattering.  The slit is so high that when Thijin walks she pulls the fabric above it with her leg, causing the diagonal that cuts off her stomach - causing the pooch.  (You can see the indent on her lower hip from the pulling fabric)If the slit had been lower she wouldn't have been able to extend her leg as much and it wouldn't have pulled in the same place.  

I really hate that designers routinely make clothes the models can't even move in.  A few years ago my niece got married.  Being tall and thin, she naturally had to have what every single bride who wants to be "different" and "sexy" wears - a very tight mermaid dress.  Not only did she have to walk moving only from the knees down, but she discovered that every time she had to go to the bathroom she had to remove the entire dress!  Yup, it was so tight she couldn't lift it high enough to pee.  Her poor bridesmaids had to make communal bathroom trips the entire night.

[jackjill89]

Just now, hoodooznoodooz said:

The Galliano for Dior backwards tux on Celine shook Brandon to the core? What the what?

For how ridiculous it was? 

I looked at Nancy's pants closer, and what occurred to me is that I had a pair that same style in the mid 80s... that I bought at a renaissance faire. They tied in front and in back, but they were essentially the same. They were fun to wear back in the day and my mom made me a second pair. They were essentially a big square with ties. Nancy's would be a square with fasteners. 

[lidarose9]

10 hours ago, Beden said:

AKA 'flood pants'

We would say: "He's expecting a flood."

[Corgi-ears]

Found the page of ideas from Sergio's notebook:

"I decided to make a reverse tuxedo, to protest reverse racism in this country."

"I wanted to make the tuxedo dress in white, because our souls are all pure, it's even like how underneath that we're all really just --"

"I made the tuxedo back to front, because trans people --  (this one needs work maybe)"

"I left the back of the dress open, just like how our national borders should be open, won't someone think of the dying children?"

"I wanted to play with the concept of going backwards, because our current administration has gone backwards (ok, this is the one, lol lol lolz)"

Edited February 8, 2020 by Corgi-ears

[Fellaway]

4 hours ago, Kira53 said:

Awful human being keep children in cages.  Perspective is needed here.

People who keep children in cages are worse than awful. My perspective on that is quite clear.

11 hours ago, Yours Truly said:

It was also the way he prolonged his walk across the room and did some choppy, charlie chaplin move, for what reason I don't know. He just extended the awkwardness for no damn reason. THAT seemed meanspirited to me. Oooooppppsss, I've been caught, oh well sorry not sorry...smirk, smirk.  That's what was uncalled for. 

Yep.  I didn't read embarrassment or sheepishness in his attitude at all when he realized Nancy heard that conversation.  Quite the opposite, actually.  That isn't the whole of why I think he's awful, but it sure sets it off.

[Fake Jan Brady]

On 2/7/2020 at 3:56 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

I need the info on Marquise's model pleeeeeeeeaseeeeeeee   he was just… wowowoowow

This tells you waaaayyy too much about me* but at first I thought I recognized the model from porn but then I realized I knew him from Broadway...

[*why yes, I am very gay; why do you ask?]

Edited February 8, 2020 by Fake Jan Brady

[NowVoyager]

Haven't read a word yet, so please forgive if posted already.

 

Sebastian & 😍 Swatch! 🥰

[dleighg]

5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I am so happy for Geoffrey! Not very original of me, but I really love when good things happen to good individuals. He was so sweet, extolling Melanie.

Am I misremembering, but didn't Melanie (nicely) complain about being bored, because Geoffrey wouldn't let her do any machine sewing?

[Ms Blue Jay]

3 hours ago, Fake Jan Brady said:

This tells you waaaayyy too much about me* but at first I thought I recognized the model from porn but then I realized I realized I knew him from Broadway...

[*why yes, I am very gay; why do you ask?]

wow.  Thank you!  Thank you so much!

[Never Again]

On 2/7/2020 at 1:58 AM, GaT said:

Alan: “Victoria is definitely a solo designer, she does not work well with other people, she barely works well with herself.” HAH!

I couldn’t believe when Victoria criticized Nancy for doing the same thing every week with the same silhouettes. Has she actually looked at the stuff she’s been putting out? How did the judges love her dress? It looked too tight & ill-fitting to me.

The way everyone kept drooling over Marquise’s model felt really harassing to me. If they did that to a woman, it would be a real #metoo thing.

I’m glad Nina brought up Céline Dion’s red carpet backward tux look. That was the first thing I thought of when he brought up what he was doing & how unique it was.

Brittany needed to go home because of those shorts alone, they were awful, and I knew just by the way people were talking & how they kept showing her that Christian was going to save her.

All of this!  Every word

[SuprSuprElevated]

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I don’t understand why they didn’t just make buttonholes with a zigzag stitch. Or is there a machine now that makes bound/welt buttonholes?

I'm old enough to remember having a buttonhole foot on a sewing machine that could be changed out as needed.  I realize that machines have probably evolved eons since I had my little Sears Kenmore model, lol.

[pasdetrois]

Nancy's pants reminded me of some from J Peterman that I wore everywhere years ago. They were in cotton batik. Can't find a link but these from eBay are every similar:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Womens-Thai-Silk-Wrap-Around-Fisherman-Pants-Sarong-Harem-Palazzo-Boho-Wide-Leg-/400963238302

[TattleTeeny]

13 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Nobody needed to study Galliano to know about this look.  They just needed cable television, access to the news, being able to see magazine covers in grocery stores.  This isn't higher echelon knowledge.  It's common knowledge - not even fashion knowledge.  It's pop culture knowledge.

I had no recollection of it (and, TBH, did not like it once I saw it, haha!)--and I'm late 40s.

[ML89]

On 2/7/2020 at 8:37 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Whoever said that Delvin's dark green color looked dated was right. I remember seeing blazers that color at the mall in the 00s

Turn on a mid 90s Law & Order and see Mike Logan in suits that color, which was supposed to not be on trend  - and if 90s Chris Noth can’t make it look good....

Sergio should have just shut his mouth or said Kris Kross inspired it or something other than his tortured, wrong cause. 

Victoria saying anyone is repeating things is the height of hilarity.

 Brittany saved, ugh. At this point, I’m okay with no one winning, there hasn’t been anything inspired all season. I can say it makes for calmer viewing, unlike last season when I was cheering on Sebastien.

[DEL901]

Thx for posting the photos up thread.... reminded me that when I saw Delvin’s on the runway, something about how the over-corset sat, it looked like the model really badly misbuttoned the jacket, not like intentional asymmetry to me.

[bugsmum]

19 hours ago, Beden said:

AKA 'flood pants'

As the "song" went in my childhood:  

The rain is gone, the land is dry.  Why do you wear your pants so high?

[Diane Mars]

Unpopular opinion here : I didn't even remember of Celine Dion's reverted tux (and I was wearing reverted vests in ~1985 - 1987, so that's maybe why I didn't remember it, because it was nothing "new" from my perpective)

For me, except that it was reverted and white, I don't get what everyone is saying. For real. From the front or from the back ! Sergio's is a dress and not a pant, it's fitted and not loose,.... I really don't get it.

EDIT : to add a picture... (and trying to find a picture of the back of Sergio's)

Edited February 8, 2020 by Diane Mars
I made screeshots from the episode ! Sorry for the quality

[Toodleoo]

7 hours ago, Fake Jan Brady said:

This tells you waaaayyy too much about me* but at first I thought I recognized the model from porn but then I realized I knew him from Broadway...

[*why yes, I am very gay; why do you ask?]

OOOH I am all about a macho dude who plays with makeup.  Thank you! His bearing elevated Marquise’ already fantastic design 100%.

On the objectification of this man...I am so conflicted. Someone like this, or Chris Evans in a sweatah, makes my brain go YESSSS THAT MAN CAN GET IT but how to express that appreciation externally while respecting the person is something I struggle with. I’d be equally unsure of how to express the same for Thijin or the thick fellow in the America’s Next Top Model picture posted earlier, too. Dammit.  These people work hard to look good, and I want to acknowledge it without coming across as thirsty as Christian did in the workroom.

Sergio is a goober and is trying to fit himself into some heretofore undiscovered niche. Just stop and do you, my dude. Your work still isn’t my thing but I appreciate that you have skill.

Alan gasping and repeating the judges’ critiques is my everything (a LEPRECHAUN in a CORSET!) and they should do a Pillow/Couch review show with prior contestants. That could be so catty-fabulous.

Would love it if Marquise and Geoffrey could both win. Would not love it if Victoria wins; that’d probably be the death knell of my viewership. 

Edited February 8, 2020 by Toodleoo

[Jessa]

5 hours ago, dleighg said:

Am I misremembering, but didn't Melanie (nicely) complain about being bored, because Geoffrey wouldn't let her do any machine sewing?

That was Veronica saying that Sergio did not trust her on the machines.

Edited February 8, 2020 by Jessa
Spelling... always spelling

[dleighg]

2 minutes ago, Jessa said:

That was Veronica saying that Sergio did not trust her on the machines.

ah thanks, all blondes look alike to me LOL. (I really do have moderate face blindness 🙂 )

[PamelaMaeSnap]

So I don't actually remember the Celine Dion outfit (partly because I think I am allergic to all mentioned of Celine Dion) ... and while I agree 110% that if this was indeed a pivotal watershed fashion moment (as it clearly was), looking at the photos of her and of Sergio's design, I think his is way more gorgeous. And this comes from someone who DOES NOT LIKE Sergio at all ... I just thought his design was lovely and I especially loved the powder pink lapels.

J'adore Marquise. And his model. 

SWATCH IN A BOW TIE!!! ❤️

Finally, I've been all in on this show for SO many years but if Victoria wins, I will NEVER watch again. 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

7 minutes ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

Finally, I've been all in on this show for SO many years but if Victoria wins, I will NEVER watch again. 

Apparently hope springs eternal with me because I kept watching even after Gretchen and Anya won back to back. 

[carrps]

11 hours ago, lidarose9 said:

We would say: "He's expecting a flood."

Our local expression was" "Waitin' for the flood."

 

8 hours ago, NowVoyager said:

Haven't read a word yet, so please forgive if posted already.

 

Sebastian & 😍 Swatch! 🥰

Thanks, when I saw who the second guest was I was going to look for it, but now I don't have to brave the Bravo website. Yay!

Sebastian was great. "Belly bottoms." And Swatch was awesome. I know Christian has dogs (including a dachshund -- the best dog), so I wasn't surprised he could carry on a one-sided conversation with him. I do it all the time! ☺️ The only bummer was the choice at the end. Hope Swatch is not a prognosticator.

[HunterHunted]

10 hours ago, Fake Jan Brady said:

This tells you waaaayyy too much about me* but at first I thought I recognized the model from porn but then I realized I knew him from Broadway...

[*why yes, I am very gay; why do you ask?]

Were you also the person who tipped us off when Emmanuel Delcour was on Chef Academy, Chopped, and Cutthroat Kitchen that he had done quite a bit of porn? If so, thank you.

https://www.eater.com/2009/11/19/6752555/bravos-new-cooking-show-star-also-a-famous-porn-star

So much porn and CSI and CSI the video game. I've got to think his inclusion in the game has to be because someone in production is a fan of his more naked work.

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1546532/filmotype/actor?ref_=m_nmfm_1

[Ashforth]

On 2/7/2020 at 8:24 AM, Vanderboom said:

In our fractured times, Sergio finds a way to annoy everyone into world peace.

Perfect observation. Sergio IS a political designer in the best way! And so modest about it. 😄

On 2/7/2020 at 9:35 AM, Pepper Mostly said:

This seemed to be the Week of One Own's Undoing. Delvin's extreme confidence in himself backfired. Powder blue? 1978 prom! Yikes.

Arrrggh I accidentally deleted the followup quote from my fellow posteress whose high school boyfriend wore a powder blue tux to prom in the late 70's. MINE TOO! Oh the photos, smh. So happy that social media wasn't a thing back in the dark ages and the pictures are confined to an old-fashioned physical photo album.

Delvin needs to get his shit together. His fabric choice this week was terrible, and his garment was ugly and ill-fitting. He'd better get his head in the game instead of thinking that he's got it made. Make some beautiful clothes, Delvin! Your time is running out...

...because Victoria can do no wrong. Jesus Christ, the zero-imagination of using black fabric, the shitty looking shoulders, the puckered skinny lapels, the unevenly spaced buttons that probably contributed to the poor fit that resulted in a seeming hip deformity and paunch on one of the best models in the competition, the lack of any obvious tuxedo reference - and she was in the top! WTF? Nancy's garment was SO MUCH BETTER.

[dleighg]

2 minutes ago, Ashforth said:

Arrrggh I accidentally deleted the followup quote from my fellow posteress whose high school boyfriend wore a powder blue tux to prom in the late 70's. MINE TOO! Oh the photos, smh. So happy that social media wasn't a thing back in the dark ages and the pictures are confined to an old-fashioned physical photo album.

that was me. And ditto. I'm not even sure I could find a photo. For full disclosure, I wore an off-white flounced top "country" sort of long gown. Much like the one on the left. 

[DaphneCat]

3 minutes ago, Ashforth said:

Perfect observation. Sergio IS a political designer in the best way! And so modest about it. 😄

Arrrggh I accidentally deleted the followup quote from my fellow posteress whose high school boyfriend wore a powder blue tux to prom in the late 70's. MINE TOO! Oh the photos, smh. So happy that social media wasn't a thing back in the dark ages and the pictures are confined to an old-fashioned physical photo album.

Delvin needs to get his shit together. His fabric choice this week was terrible, and his garment was ugly and ill-fitting. He'd better get his head in the game instead of thinking that he's got it made. Make some beautiful clothes, Delvin! Your time is running out...

...because Victoria can do no wrong. Jesus Christ, the zero-imagination of using black fabric, the shitty looking shoulders, the puckered skinny lapels, the unevenly spaced buttons that probably contributed to the poor fit that resulted in a seeming hip deformity and paunch on one of the best models in the competition, the lack of any obvious tuxedo reference - and she was in the top! WTF? Nancy's garment was SO MUCH BETTER.

After thinking about the Sergio thing I've decided he just doesn't know when to shut up.  If he had said something along the lines of "While the current administrations is saying we need to Make America Great Again, I feel like we are actually going backwards in terms of kindness to each other and willingness to genuinely listen to each other's point of view"  AND STOPPED, he might have pulled it off.  Instead, he KEPT GOING and started bringing up crap from the 50's.  

And I agree, I didn't get the hate for Nancy's outfit.  It isn't anything I would have chosen, but it was far better, both in design and construction, than Victoria's.

[tinderbox]

I'd love to see the final looks from these designers if they were creating their garments apart from one another.....especially during a two day challenge where they go home and have time to talk with one another and ponder.  I'm not sure if it's a conscious decision BUT I believe some of them copy one another....possibly without realizing it.   This is the season of too many uneven hemlines (or whatever they're called).  It's almost an epidemic. 

I hate that Brittney was saved.  That said, I LOVE Christian as the mentor.  Love.

I, too, immediately thought of Yul Brenner in the King and I when I saw that very handsome model walk down that runway. 

Delvin's personality, which used to make me smile, has lost its luster.  Also, I thought his creation was butt ugly and ill fitting.  I'm anxious to see if he's less obnoxious in the next episode. 

I thought the male guest judge looked absolutely ridiculous sitting on that chair while wearing those shorts he designed.  Awful.  (I'm old and, and apparently, have lost my understanding and acceptance of fashion.  Hmmm...) 

For as much as the judges didn't appreciate Sergio's design, his pretending not to remember Celine's outfit, or his ridiculous speech....he was placed in the top 3 or 4 so that says something. 

 

[gingerella]

Okay, so this was the week where I finally said, "Enough Delvin, take off your M. Dior white jacket because that green slime outfit was absolute DRECK!"

Victoria is a fucking asshole and I cannot wait for her dismissal. Talk about calling the kettle black.

Sergio, just shut.the.fuck.up. When the judges or whomever said that "John Galliano designed it" I snorted aloud when Sergio replied, "Oh, well, he's a genius designer" or something like that. You could tell in his smugness that he was including himself in the "genius designers" category since he 'came up with' a similar idea. That said, and I LOATHE Sergio, I appreciated him sticking up for Nancy. I hope she wins it all from these chucklefucks.

[TattleTeeny]

Quote

As for Sergio saying he didn’t know about Celine’s look, even if he is telling the truth (doubtful, imo), then I don’t respect him just as much because he doesn’t bother to educate himself on the history of his profession. One of my most eyerolling reactions to reality tv was on So You Think You Can Dance when a judge was telling the two dancers to study up on the classics of movie musicals like Gene Kelly and Cyd Charisse, and the teenaged dancers had no idea who those people were!! As someone who grew up on classic movie musicals, I was appalled.

People can study up on shit and still not know everything about it. No one knows everything about something. For example, I get all twitchy when crime shows--fiction and nonfiction--overexplain forensic investigation techniques, but that's on me. I have no great love for Sergio and maybe he is full of shit (and could stand to engage in a touch of humility) but maybe something, somewhere got by him--big deal.

@dleighg I wear dresses like that now, haha (NOT white--I am a mess with coffee and hot sauce)! I was born in '71 so I didn't get to take much part in the clothing of the time at the time. But my closet is full of it.

Edited February 8, 2020 by TattleTeeny

[Gloriosa]

I was so happy for Marquise - what a gorgeous jacket.  It must be difficult for a menswear designer in this particular competition, but I've noticed that this season the designers have sometimes been given a choice, so that's a plus.

For the most part it didn't do much good to bring in helpers, but it was nice to see Shavi again.  I hated to see him eliminated. Some of the others I couldn't even remember.

Maybe if Sergio had specified that he was talking about economics in the 50's his blathering wouldn't have fallen so flat.  I don't think he's a bad guy, but he's a bore and doesn't know it.  He needs to do himself a favor and stop talking.

I wasn't happy about the save, because that tux was terrible and Brittany's kind of full of it, but Christian was feeling charitable.  I commend him for that. 

Loved the interview with Swatch.

[hula-la]

Sergio just got roasted by Diet Prada.  https://www.instagram.com/p/B8UYkR0nvzJ/?igshid=1r1rax2de11uy 

Edited February 9, 2020 by hula-la

[WaltersHair]

Quote

We would say: "He's expecting a flood."

Our local expression was" "Waitin' for the flood."

I'm going to chime in with "He's wearing floods" also "He's wearing high waters." My family moved around, but I think these are from the Midwest.

To keep it on topic, I think Geoffrey was robbed.

Edited February 8, 2020 by WaltersHair

[SuprSuprElevated]

10 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

Nancy's pants reminded me of some from J Peterman that I wore everywhere years ago. They were in cotton batik. Can't find a link but these from eBay are every similar:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Womens-Thai-Silk-Wrap-Around-Fisherman-Pants-Sarong-Harem-Palazzo-Boho-Wide-Leg-/400963238302

I actually had a pattern (Butterick I think) in the early 80's like this, and sewed several pair of shorts.  Never made the long pants.

[TattleTeeny]

1 hour ago, WaltersHair said:

I'm going to chime in with "He's wearing floods" also "He's wearing high waters." My family moved around, but I think these are from the Midwest.

 

We had both over here in Jersey!

[SuprSuprElevated]

9 hours ago, Diane Mars said:

Unpopular opinion here : I didn't even remember of Celine Dion's reverted tux (and I was wearing reverted vests in ~1985 - 1987, so that's maybe why I didn't remember it, because it was nothing "new" from my perpective)

For me, except that it was reverted and white, I don't get what everyone is saying. For real. From the front or from the back ! Sergio's is a dress and not a pant, it's fitted and not loose,.... I really don't get it.

EDIT : to add a picture... (and trying to find a picture of the back of Sergio's)

The garment is similar due to color, concept, and tux-ishness.  I don't think anyone would have had as much if any issue with it had he not tried to A) act like he wasn't aware of the Celine garment, & B) feign the attachment of some social hot button.  He's an extremely talented fraud.  ymmv  

Also - I liked his garment.

Edited February 9, 2020 by SuprSuprElevated

[DangerousMinds]

10 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

I had no recollection of it (and, TBH, did not like it once I saw it, haha!)--and I'm late 40s.

I knew I had seen a backwards tux somewhere before, but couldn’t place it immediately. However, I absolutely knew it wasn’t an original idea as he claimed and I had definitely seen it done before.

Edited February 9, 2020 by DangerousMinds

[Deskisamess]

On 2/7/2020 at 5:44 PM, lovesnark said:

I'm that old😊 I was fortunate to see Yul Brynner in The King and I in Seattle during it's final tour with him in that role. I think it was 1984. I still get goosebumps when I think about that night, it was absolutely magical! I also thought of him when Marquise's model owned not only the runway, but everything in that room. 

 

I saw him also that year in The King & I, about a year before he died. It was amazing, and hooked both my husband and myself on live theatre. 

[lovesnark]

1 minute ago, Deskisamess said:

I saw him also that year in The King & I, about a year before he died. It was amazing, and hooked both my husband and myself on live theatre. 

I saw the new production about three years ago in Seattle. It was wonderful, but not nearly as much as the original. Now I think I need to watch the movie..............for the millionth time.

 

[Angeleyes]

Did anyone else notice that the back of Victoria’s gown wasn’t one piece? There was a middle panel that was weirdly placed on the model’s butt. I thought for sure the judges would ding her for it, but I guess the color (and possible judge related blindness) helped to disguise it. 

[njbchlover]

On 2/7/2020 at 9:00 PM, TVbitch said:

Is this show trolling us, or do they actually think Victoria is some fiery, charismatic designer that we will root for and who could be a success in the industry with her amazing design. And by design, I mean, just the one, cuz that's all she has. 

This is exactly what leads me to think that IF Victoria makes into the final three/four, she will not win (hopefully). 

As we all know, winners for each challenge and the finale are chosen by the judges and producers - they even tell us that in the end credits.  I cannot imagine the producers choosing someone who constantly gives the impression of not be willing to accept and gladly embrace the CFDA mentorship program.  Victoria does not seem like she would be very open to the learning and criticism she would most likely receive through that huge prize.  Neither does Sergio.  They both seem to have so much confidence in their work that they feel they need no assistance, at all.

I think of all the designers left, Geoffrey, Marquise, Delvin and Nancy would all be very grateful and accepting of the CFDA mentorship program.  Brittany, even though she's showing herself to be a "mean girl", would also probably be very accepting of what she would learn.  

[njbchlover]

nm - my reply was a reply to a question that has already been answered.  I need to remember to read through before replying!!  🙂 

Edited February 9, 2020 by njbchlover

[TattleTeeny]

3 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

I knew I had seen a backwards tux somewhere before, but couldn’t place it immediately. However, I absolutely knew it wasn’t an original idea as he claimed and I had definitely seen it done before.

I don't think that there's that much in fashion that can be called a 100% original idea. My point is that it's possible he legitimately didn't know of the so-called iconic instance and therefore wasn't really being a copycat.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

From what I remember, Celine Dion’s backwards tux was a pretty big pop culture moment similar to when J Lo wore that low cut green and blue dress. Even people who don’t watch awards shows saw both outfits because the press made such a huge deal out of both of them. 

[TattleTeeny]

I saw J-Lo's but never Celine Dion's until this episode.

[Deskisamess]

11 hours ago, lovesnark said:

I saw the new production about three years ago in Seattle. It was wonderful, but not nearly as much as the original. Now I think I need to watch the movie..............for the millionth time.

 

We saw the new production also, and fell in love with Manna Nichols, who played Tuptim.

[Angeleyes]

Brandon calls Delvin’s green suit “leprechaun”. Fast forward to yesterday when Brandon debuts his new Fall/Winter collection and there is green everywhere. 
 

 

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 minutes ago, Angeleyes said:

Brandon calls Delvin’s green suit “leprechaun”. Fast forward to yesterday when Brandon debuts his new Fall/Winter collection and there is green everywhere. 
 

 

Ooh, I like!  These are better greens, at least maybe more current?, but yeah, I get your point.

[Ashforth]

1 hour ago, Angeleyes said:

Brandon calls Delvin’s green suit “leprechaun”. Fast forward to yesterday when Brandon debuts his new Fall/Winter collection and there is green everywhere. 
 

 

I'm not defending Delvin's garment, but for Brandon Maxwell, after creating the look on the left above - complete with the hat! - to deride Delvin's as "leprechaun" is totally hypocritical.

[kirklandia]

1 hour ago, Ashforth said:

for Brandon Maxwell, after creating the look on the left above - complete with the hat! - to deride Delvin's as "leprechaun" is totally hypocritical.

Wondering about the timing.  Doesn't this season culminate with New York Fashion Week?  The last Fashion Week took place September 5-13 2019, so this episode must have been filmed quite some time before that (I don't know how long they are given to work on their collections).  So Brandon Maxwell could have been inspired to go green by the "leprechaun" look he disparaged.

Edited February 9, 2020 by kirklandia