S11.E01: Kicked Out

[greekmom]

Anyone see the reboot version of National Lampoon's Vacation?  There's a scene where they find a "mineral pond" and start wading in and lathering the mud on themselves because it was holistic when it turns out it was an sewage dump?   That's what the pond scene reminded me of.  I was hoping for the punch line of manure or sewage coming out of the pipes in the back.

Lucky for my eyes, I switched channels to the GG awards before I saw Kooties in his undies.

[riverblue22]

I think Kody reads the Internets quite a bit.  He really sees through Meri and her need to always play the victim.

[Natalie68]

3 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

I shook my head after a big gulp of wine when Robyn announced it was Kody's idea to move to Flagstaff. It was all Robyn's idea so that she could be close to D'ayun . She rilly is a big liar 

She also RILLY looked pregnant.  Mr. Natalie walking through the room last night mentioned it as well.

[Natalie68]

1 hour ago, ElderPrice said:

Meri could have moved into Christine’s house, you know, the house with the ginormous master suite? Throw one of the beds up there. 

Sobbin had *7* bedrooms.  She and Kootie get 1, Dayton gets 1, Aurora gets 1, Breanna gets 1, Aureola gets 1, Master gets 1.  That leaves a spare.  Meri could have stuck her shit in a storage locker and slept in Sobbins guest room.  Unless it was set up as a new nursery.  I am convinced she is pregnant.  Need another tax benie.

[aimlessbird]

Kody is upset because a neighbor was judgemental about the family being polygamous.  That they were not accepting of his chosen lifestyle.  Later on he carries on about how he does not approve of couples "shacking up" before marriage because he does not want his young children  exposed to that option/lifestyle.  Kody is very hypocritical with zero self awareness.  He shouldn't throw stones at Meri for playing the victim since Kody is always playing the victim also.

 

PS  I'm just thankful that Janelle was wearing a shawl at the pond scene.  Otherwise even more of Kody's body would have been shown.  He really has a good opinion of himself.

[Kellyee]

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Kicked out, my ass.  Another fakety-fake TLC attention-grabbing title.  I bet there isn't even the vaguest reference to it during the episode.  Ranks right up there with "tell all episode" where we hear zip.

Why is this episode called Kicked Out?? No one has kicked them out of anywhere during this entire show. In all the seasons, we have not seen a single real example of anyone truly rejecting them from anything. Meri lost her job in the first season, but that was more likely due to the reality show thing and not just because she was a polygamist. Transgender people face more rejection on a daily basis than any of these assholes have known in 20 years of marriage. Utah doesn't even enforce their anti-polygamist laws. 

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She also RILLY looked pregnant.  Mr. Natalie walking through the room last night mentioned it as well.

If Robyn is pregnant again, I will vomit. How old is she now anyway? Maybe she is pregnant with triplets, and that's why her house needs to be 3 times bigger than any of the other wives.

 

 

 

[aimlessbird]

2 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Sobbin had *7* bedrooms.  She and Kootie get 1, Dayton gets 1, Aurora gets 1, Breanna gets 1, Aureola gets 1, Master gets 1.  That leaves a spare.  Meri could have stuck her shit in a storage locker and slept in Sobbins guest room.  Unless it was set up as a new nursery.  I am convinced she is pregnant.  Need another tax benie.

I thought Mindy had gotten married and was staying in Vegas.  But I kept seeing her in scenes last night.  Robyn needs an extra room for a live in nanny.  She finds motherhood very overwhelming.  There are also vague rumors online that Robyn's mother and stepfather are living with Robyn.

[xwordfanatik]

I'm enjoying the comments.  I haven't read through them all yet, but I DVR'ed the episode and am still watching.  So many lies and half-truths, just like many of us suspected would happen.

Robyn's newly dyed hair looks terrible.  No highlights, just solid brown.  Poor thing must be getting grey.  Meri looks awful, no surprise there.  TLC doesn't filter the way she does her photos when she posts her crappy clothes.  

Oh great.  That pesticide, feces, and heavy metal contaminated water scene, with Kootie is his underwear.  Gawd, what a fucking showboat!  🤢 

 

[DakotaJustice]

8 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

I'm enjoying the comments.  I haven't read through them all yet, but I DVR'ed the episode and am still watching.  So many lies and half-truths, just like many of us suspected would happen.

Robyn's newly dyed hair looks terrible.  No highlights, just solid brown.  Poor thing must be getting grey.  Meri looks awful, no surprise there.  TLC doesn't filter the way she does her photos when she posts her crappy clothes.  

Oh great.  That pesticide, feces, and heavy metal contaminated water scene, with Kootie is his underwear.  Gawd, what a fucking showboat!  🤢 

 

I think the fact that Robyn has a poor dye job is evidence that they're pinching their pennies because I'm sure she would go to a salon and get a professional coloring done otherwise.

[Dmarie019]

1 hour ago, valdawn said:

One of my pet peeves on this show (and there are many) is that when they are sitting on the couch rehashing things, they act like it’s new to them and that they are actually doing it the day after the event. Example was when Meri was talking about the neighbors saying it was the day before and the others acted shocked as though they had not heard this yet. They wear the same clothes during these couch sessions throughout the season, so don’t insult my intelligence by acting like you’re meeting daily to do these talks! 

That's mostly on the producers, they tell them to talk that way, which I agree it weird. Not sure why they can't talk in the past tense. 

11 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

I'm enjoying the comments.  I haven't read through them all yet, but I DVR'ed the episode and am still watching.  So many lies and half-truths, just like many of us suspected would happen.

Robyn's newly dyed hair looks terrible.  No highlights, just solid brown.  Poor thing must be getting grey.  Meri looks awful, no surprise there.  TLC doesn't filter the way she does her photos when she posts her crappy clothes.  

Oh great.  That pesticide, feces, and heavy metal contaminated water scene, with Kootie is his underwear.  Gawd, what a fucking showboat!  🤢 

 

Meri's had a botched eye lift RIGHT!? something just looks off and I think it's some sort of plastic surgery gone wrong. She was somewhat pretty but now she just looks weird. And her choice of eyeliner doesn't help either. 

[SunnyBeBe]

I think the cast are directed to speak in the present tense when on the couch.  It's supposed to make it more enjoyable for the viewer to hear them speak that way, instead of the constant reminding that it all happened long ago.  Cause, they do the same thing with all the other reality based shows too.  And, I use the term REALITY very loosely. lol 

I do have some sympathy for Kody, though, he's caused a lot of these problems himself, but, the stress of providing for that many people.....I just don't get it.  So much outgoing and hardly any incoming.......?

[Dmarie019]

And how about that new intro... I'm glad they finally did a new intro but that was just really weird and depressing. 

[toodles]

1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

 

And why am I, a grown woman with a life, watching this?

It's the eternal question, isn't it.

[Pepper Mostly]

Well its high time it was changed. No one is buying the "I love this lifestyle! It makes us all better! We're awesome!" 

Love should be multiplied, not divided. Except among your four thirsty as fuck wives, who get the Holy Peen of Kody 1.5 times a week. Well, less for Meri, obvs.

[EastCoast4Life]

I'm scarred by Kody's pixelated crotchal area. Enjoy your upcoming staph infection!

 

[LucyEth]

Don't know where to begin.  Like others here I agree that it seems ridiculous that Meri had to stay in a hotel before moving back to Vegas.  If these people are truly a loving family and  live this lifestyle to support each other than someone should have had Meri stay at their house.  These women don't really care about each other.  Why Meri is even still there I have no idea.  She has no children and apparently Kody does not want a marriage with her. Robin and her fake crying over the family not being together is sickening and fake. Kody in his underwear acting like and ass in that filthy water🤮.  Only stupid people would pack and move in a sloppy half assed manner as they did before their houses were sold.  Can't wait to see the reaction to Kody's mega mansion.  By the time that thing gets built most of the children will gone.  

[SunnyBeBe]

I noticed the change in the intro too.  It's sort of like, "we aren't in Kansas anymore."  lol 

Do they still take viewer questions in the tell all? I can't recall.  I'd like for them to get questioned about why they couldn't have gotten closer together if they conserved more.  Okay.  Can someone help me on bedroom needs.  I think I did this long ago, but, things may have changed by now.  How many bedrooms did they ACTUALLY end up with?

Christine's minor children or those still at home are:  Truly, Ysabel, Gwendyln, and Paedon?  So, they could manage with 1 or two bedrooms for them and then one for Christine and Kody.  A 3 bedroom would have been fine, right?

Janelle's minor or at home children: Gabriel and Savannah.  3 bedrooms would be fine. 

Robyn's minor or at home children:  Dayton, Aurora, Breanna, Solomon and Ariella.  4 bedrooms fine. ( A young man Dayton's age should have own room, imo. )

Meri has no minor children at home, but, would need a spare room for office/guest. So, 2-3 bedrooms.  If times were hard, I would suggested that I get a studio (with garage space for my products) to conserve, since, I would be in NV and Utah (B&B) on business so often. 

[DakotaJustice]

43 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

That's mostly on the producers, they tell them to talk that way, which I agree it weird. Not sure why they can't talk in the past tense. 

Meri's had a botched eye lift RIGHT!? something just looks off and I think it's some sort of plastic surgery gone wrong. She was somewhat pretty but now she just looks weird. And her choice of eyeliner doesn't help either. 

When would she have time? She's always on Instagram or posting a new Instagram story. 

[LucyEth]

2 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Christine's minor children or those still at home are:  Truly, Ysabel, Gwendyln, and Paedon? 

Pretty sure Paedon is in some form of the military like Hunter and Garrison.

[SunnyBeBe]

6 minutes ago, LucyEth said:

Pretty sure Paedon is in some form of the military like Hunter and Garrison.

So, from what I'm thinking, they could have done the move with much less expense and have been closer, if they hadn't insisted on such impressive houses.  Downsizing isn't a terrible thing. ..............You know, if the Browns lose their gig with TLC, they may want to check out HGTV.  Wouldn't several TINY houses look adorable out on Coyote Pass?  lol  

https://www.hgtv.com/shows/tiny-house-big-living

Edited January 6, 2020 by SunnyBeBe

[aimlessbird]

Paedon belongs to some sort of National Guard type of military thing and is living with Mykelti and Tony last I knew.

 

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[QueBueno]

I don't care enough to watch last season to verify this, but is the first season where the wives have worn anything but long sleeves?  I saw Mari's Walmart special and I was like, I think this is the first time I have seen her in short sleeves.  One of the other wives had shorter sleeves too.

It boggles the mind that they are paying for four mortgages and four rentals?  When they basically earn pretty much nothing except for what the show brings in.

Robyn looks like crap this year.  Really rough.  She may be preggers but I would think she is getting a little old for that.  Not impossible, but improbable.

[Adeejay]

 I wish Janelle would stop saying that “Meri and Kody were two of her secret polygamist friends.”  You weren’t friends; you were family, because you were married to her brother.  You fell in love with your sister in-law’s husband and divorced yours. Enough with the revisionist history already. Same with Christine. Kody didn’t want to marry you.  Your influential father forced him to do so.  Haven't you seen your wedding photo? His face says it all.

I believe Meri would have found any excuse to leave Flagstaff.  Thank goodness for the “alleged” disapproving landlady. 

[Natalie68]

5 minutes ago, QueBueno said:

I don't care enough to watch last season to verify this, but is the first season where the wives have worn anything but long sleeves?  I saw Mari's Walmart special and I was like, I think this is the first time I have seen her in short sleeves.  One of the other wives had shorter sleeves too.

It boggles the mind that they are paying for four mortgages and four rentals?  When they basically earn pretty much nothing except for what the show brings in.

Robyn looks like crap this year.  Really rough.  She may be preggers but I would think she is getting a little old for that.  Not impossible, but improbable.

While it is almost unbelievable,  she is only 41.  Those Browns really kick the shit out of your looks.  Aging horribly.

[MakingBacon]

I wonder if Meri’s house was just rented for the purpose of moving in, being discriminated against and then moving out. Maybe it was an Airbnb. I don’t get that the owner knew what they were all about, would know how her neighbors would react, waited until a neighbor reacted as she knew they would and then decided to kick Meri out. Did the owner pay for the inconvenience of have to move out and find somewhere to store everything? I wouldn’t have walked away from that lease without a few extra thousand dollars and everything I already paid to her upfront but I am bitchy that way. 

Also, what was Kody so afraid of with the police coming out? They weren’t going to get arrested or abused when they had multiple cameras filming the entire thing for a television show. Even the most out-of-control cop wouldn’t do anything to them in that situation.

Kody has the right to not want his kids exposed to people “shacking up” but  who don’t want their kids exposed to polygamy have the same right.  

Maybe the mud pond was created by TLC. What parent, other than a Brown, would allow their kids to play in a prairie dog virus pond? Even if you forget the potential for disease, who would let any of them back in the car? I would have driven off in my clean car alone. 

[65mickey]

I am confused about the time line. Didn't the Browns move to AZ in the summer of 2018?So the filming for "Kicked Out" was done when?  It shows them moving into the AZ houses.  As far as Kicked out goes as suspected Meri and Janelle's homes were in areas that did not allow filming. That's why Meri packed up and left. Oh as to why Meri is still there I assume she wants her share of the money paid by TLC to the Brown family.  Otherwise if she did not film the rest of the family wouldn't give her the time of day let alone any money. Yeah Robin looked pregnant in a later scene when they were sitting around the table bemoaning the fact that the Vegas homes had not sold.  Her face was full and when she got up she looked heavy. However this had to have been filmed sometime in the summer of 2019. If she was heavily pregnant then she would have had the baby by now so I am guessing it is just weight gain. She looked even heavier in her talking head shots. 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

So a few things, when they were outside moving - Robyn did look like she had a preggo belly... still needs to get that neck checked out however. 

Christine and Kody's mastersuite in the family room,  kinda odd as he is there once a week - her house looks like a new built so I would think there would be a proper master en suite. 

Poor suffering Gabe, Janelle is racked with guilt so she a. gives him the master b. gets him a puppy - well played Gabe, well played 

Everyone other than Meri is complaining how far they live from each other, they don't even like each other, so not sure what the big dill is.

Like I said earlier, Robyn got EXACTLY what she wanted, I don't buy her crocodile tears.     

[DakotaJustice]

1 hour ago, toodles said:

It's the eternal question, isn't it.

Even worse is why would anyone watch Dr Pimple Popper?!? That's just nasty.

1 minute ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

So a few things, when they were outside moving - Robyn did look like she had a preggo belly... still needs to get that neck checked out however. 

Christine and Kody's mastersuite in the family room,  kinda odd as he is there once a week - her house looks like a new built so I would think there would be a proper master en suite. 

Poor suffering Gabe, Janelle is racked with guilt so she a. gives him the master b. gets him a puppy - well played Gabe, well played 

Everyone other than Meri is complaining how far they live from each other, they don't even like each other, so not sure what the big dill is.

Like I said earlier, Robyn got EXACTLY what she wanted, I don't buy her crocodile tears.     

But the move happened almost 2 years ago and there's been no new Robyn baby.

[TurtlePower]

Some thoughts on this episode:

* Meri was staring off, picking at her fingers, appearing bored during the talking heads. She looked miserable. 

* NO ONE GIVES A SHIT that they are a plural family in Flagstaff. It has NOTHING to do with their lifestyle, it has more to do with the cameras and the lookey-loos and all the bother that comes with these people. Flagstaff is a pretty open community, they just don't want attention, drama, extra vehicles and cameras in that little cul-de-sac. Meri's acting like it had to do with their lifestyle was misleading, victim-y and makes me dislike her even more. 

* Robyn's looking a bit rough--swollen, haggard, tired. 

* I felt sorry for Gabe, that poor kid. 

* Regarding the previews for the season, oh great--another freakin' birth. Madison (?) sitting in the tub moaning and crying. Horray. 

 

[New2this]

The in episode recaps are ridiculous. They have the scene, go to commercial, then repeat what just happened after returning from commercial. So annoying.

The jumping around of footage is also confusing. Early on, they’re talking about moving in the summer, then showing fall foliage and colorful aspens. 

When did the first of their houses go on the market? The conversation around the table about their homes happened in September. 

[winsomeone]

Did anyone actually see a police report of this incident? Are they lying yet again?

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

13 minutes ago, DakotaJustice said:

Even worse is why would anyone watch Dr Pimple Popper?!? That's just nasty.

But the move happened almost 2 years ago and there's been no new Robyn baby.

I said she looked preggo - I guess eating all those aigs ( ty 90DF ) and beef in the freezer is what is going on.

[Galloway Cave]

We  all know Meri ended up in another ginormous house in Flag, since she has been posting LLN pics from "her" house since they moved there. I think @MakingBacon is on to something. TLC may have rented an AirB&B just  for the purpose of the persecution storyline. They moved some of Meri's stuff into the garage, then moved it out for filming. We know they have a warehouse for storage. The new house she rented was sold after a year but we haven't heard about her renting yet another one. But she has posted pics from Flag, so I wonder where she stays when in town.

Every season I complain about the show being horrible and painful to watch, but this season takes the cake. They could photoshop me into the new intro and I'd look as sad as the rest of them.

[DakotaJustice]

15 minutes ago, New2this said:

The in episode recaps are ridiculous. They have the scene, go to commercial, then repeat what just happened after returning from commercial. So annoying.

The jumping around of footage is also confusing. Early on, they’re talking about moving in the summer, then showing fall foliage and colorful aspens. 

When did the first of their houses go on the market? The conversation around the table about their homes happened in September. 

We really need a Brown Real Estate thread!!

I posted the following stats from Zillow:

 

11 minutes ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

I said she looked preggo - I guess eating all those aigs ( ty 90DF ) and beef in the freezer is what is going on.

Aigs 😂😂 yeah I know but the pregnant thing comes up so often I think that even when Robyn is 55 years old and menopausal it'll still be an open question. 😂

[islandgal140]

I'm glad the show is back but a little miffed that it bumped my current fav train wreck 90 day fiance.

I hate the hot, arid, dry LV devoid of trees and shade so the green landscape of Flagstaff is welcoming in my eyes although not so much for the Brown's bank acct. LOL!

I know I shouldn't have but I did an awful lot of ugly laughing at all their (especially Kodi's) hand-wringing over the move not being to their financial benefit as Kodi projected. No shit sherlocks. Kody wanting to build some plyg multi-family, multi-million dollar complex that they could likely never resell is just the cherry on top.

Kodi can't seem to remember any wedding or anniversary dates with any of the wives but Robyn. Typical. 

I can't believe Kodi stripped down to his euro bikini briefs on camera and some of the Brown's dove into that muddy ass water. Gross!!

9 hours ago, suomi said:

Christine's ginormous "master suite" - they couldn't move some of Meri's bedroom stuff up there for awhile/a couple weeks, until she found another place to rent? Her bed, her dresser, a couple suitcases? She's rarely home anyway. It made better sense for Meri to schlep herself 5 hours back to Vegas? I thought Christine "wanted the family, not just the man." Pffftt. 

Meri could've moved in with bestie Robyn. Doesn't Robyn have like 7 bedrooms in that monstrosity? She wouldn't even stay not one single night with any of other wives. Further proof that all the shit they spew is just that .. shit! 

Gwendlyn has a surprisingly great figure!

I really want a follow-up on Ysabel's spine issue. 

[SunnyBeBe]

Robyn really looks fed up to me. I'd be super shocked if she were pregnant again.  I mean.....she appears to be done with a lot of things.

Janelle....just coasting along.  I mean, how much worse could it be?  I think she's relieved to not have to deal with Meri so much. 

Meri is still wondering, unsure, conflicted by her fillings......some things never change.

and, Christine, is still full of hope and energy! lol My goodness that girl is drinking something. lol 

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[DakotaJustice]

Making up stories, covering up, and out-and-out boldface lying. 
What a shitty way to make a living. No wonder Robyn is upset, probably the reason she doesn't participate in the live tweets. 

[Joan of Argh]

I kept zoning out during this shitfest last night so I'm sure I missed some stuff but what was Robyn blabbering on about Kootie wanting to "dumb down" Christmas?

I'm really starting hate how Robyn shifts the blame on to Kootie for HER conniving... He's an asshole of epic proportions but she's the one driving their garbage barge out to sea.

She never misses an opportunity to blame everything on him while she sits there with her crocodile tears and long sighs.

She loves everyone, nothing is more important than her family... She's a saint.  *barf*

[Twopper]

55 minutes ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

So a few things, when they were outside moving - Robyn did look like she had a preggo belly... still needs to get that neck checked out however. 

I suggested recently that Janelle might have a case of diastasi recti  https://www.parents.com/pregnancy/my-body/postpartum/diastasis-recti-the-postpartum-body-problem-no-one-talks-about/ 

I just ate lunch with my friend who has this so if Robyn looks preggers, but she hasn't given birth recently then it is possible she has it.

48 minutes ago, New2this said:

The in episode recaps are ridiculous. They have the scene, go to commercial, then repeat what just happened after returning from commercial. So annoying.

The jumping around of footage is also confusing. Early on, they’re talking about moving in the summer, then showing fall foliage and colorful aspens. 

I am sure I saw the scene where Truely asked Meri about why she was moving out of the house she just moved into at least 3 separate times.  I guess they wanted to emphasize the eviction.

[Galloway Cave]

1 minute ago, Joan of Argh said:

I kept zoning out during this shitfest last night so I'm sure I missed some stuff but what was Robyn blabbering on about Kootie wanting to "dumb down" Christmas?

Kody used the phrase "dumb down," which was the wrong way to put it. Because their finances were so critical, Kody was trying to tell the wives that Christmas would be lean that year. Then he specifically told Robyn to "dumb down" Christmas, because I guess she blows it out or spends more because she has more kids. I think she was just confused with Kody's choice of words.

[Joan of Argh]

3 minutes ago, Galloway Cave said:

Kody used the phrase "dumb down," which was the wrong way to put it. Because their finances were so critical, Kody was trying to tell the wives that Christmas would be lean that year. Then he specifically told Robyn to "dumb down" Christmas, because I guess she blows it out or spends more because she has more kids. I think she was just confused with Kody's choice of words.

Oh OK that makes sense... I was sitting there wondering what the hell she's whining about now and the whole show was pissing me off so much that I didn't want to rewind. 😂 

[EastCoast4Life]

1 hour ago, QueBueno said:

Robyn looks like crap this year.  Really rough.  She may be preggers but I would think she is getting a little old for that.  Not impossible, but improbable.

I think this is what happens to you when you marry Kody Brown. The only one who has looked better with age is Christine, and I have no idea why. 

What happened with the architect who drew up the plans last season for Kody's dream compound? I guess that lady has been fired, and now Kody is designing his own dream house, of course. They've been living there since 2018, and they have nothing to show for it? 

[LucyEth]

Something has to have happened at Meri's besides the filming and moving.  I don't think police go to someone's house to tell them the neighbors don't like you and want you to move.  

1 hour ago, Adeejay said:

I wish Janelle would stop saying that “Meri and Kody were two of her secret polygamist friends.”  You weren’t friends; you were family, because you were married to her brother.  You fell in love with your sister in-law’s husband and divorced yours. Enough with the revisionist history already. Same with Christine. Kody didn’t want to marry you.  Your influential father forced him to do so.  Haven't you seen your wedding photo? His face says it all.

Right!  So sick of the fakery with that story. Makes it seem liked she was single.  Regarding Christine, didn't he say he was not attracted to her at all as she was shoving Dorito chips in her mouth when they out someplace.  Meanwhile, he gets more disgusting every season.

[SunnyBeBe]

9 minutes ago, Galloway Cave said:

Kody used the phrase "dumb down," which was the wrong way to put it. Because their finances were so critical, Kody was trying to tell the wives that Christmas would be lean that year. Then he specifically told Robyn to "dumb down" Christmas, because I guess she blows it out or spends more because she has more kids. I think she was just confused with Kody's choice of words.

Yeah,  my interpretation of what Robyn said, was that Kody told the wives that money was super tight, credit was maxed out, so, short of having a yard sale to get funds, gifts would be low cost and practical.  And, Robyn thought that Christmas is a time for special memories and lots of indulgence, even if you have no money for that kind of thing. She said something about how they could do things for Christmas that didn't involve money.  I would guess that involves, making your own cards, gifts and decorations, singing Christmas carols, spending time together, attending church......none of which, I bet she was that interested in.  lol  

[xwordfanatik]

2 hours ago, EastCoast4Life said:

I'm scarred by Kody's pixelated crotchal area. Enjoy your upcoming staph infection!

 

This is awful of me, but I'll spill it here, because I know I'm among fellow snarkers.

I remember seeing a documentary about people in another country (can't remember which one) getting weird worms in their legs from contaminated water.  I won't be more graphic for the faint-hearted, but my mind went there when I saw Kootie jumping into that filth.

Pixelated crotch area, LOL!  I cannot believe Kootie's narcissism.  What an ass.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Do we even know what they are making this season from TLC ? Last year rumor was 180K total.  I just don't understand how dumb they are not to research a place before they move there.  Before buying 4 plots of plague, why didn't they get an estimate on how much it would cost to add utilities/sewer/septic. 

Robyn looks checked out because in the cuddlesac, I bet if she called Kody would come running from any of the ladies houses he was at - now he probably is like " it can wait until my next visit'  We know he doesn't spend any time with Meri, and Janelle seems she may get a crumb thrown her way once a week, so seems like Christine & Robyn are getting the Kody fill. If they loved being neighbors, they could have found a nice development and had the 4 houses built already

 

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

I'm glad the show is back but a little miffed that it bumped my current fav train wreck 90 day fiance.

I hate the hot, arid, dry LV devoid of trees and shade so the green landscape of Flagstaff is welcoming in my eyes although not so much for the Brown's bank acct. LOL!

I know I shouldn't have but I did an awful lot of ugly laughing at all their (especially Kodi's) hand-wringing over the move not being to their financial benefit as Kodi projected. No shit sherlocks. Kody wanting to build some plyg multi-family, multi-million dollar complex that they could likely never resell is just the cherry on top.

Kodi can't seem to remember any wedding or anniversary dates with any of the wives but Robyn. Typical. 

I can't believe Kodi stripped down to his euro bikini briefs on camera and some of the Brown's dove into that muddy ass water. Gross!!

Meri could've moved in with bestie Robyn. Doesn't Robyn have like 7 bedrooms in that monstrosity? She wouldn't even stay not one single night with any of other wives. Further proof that all the shit they spew is just that .. shit! 

Gwendlyn has a surprisingly great figure!

I really want a follow-up on Ysabel's spine issue. 

When I saw Ysabel lifting that table into the moving truck, I cringed.  That cannot be good for scoliosis, can it?  

Manufactured drama, just to keep the Brown Fambly Shitshow alive.  We are persecuted plygs, everyone!

[Tatortot]

I have a couple of thoughts on this move.  They could have bought a whole condo unit of 4 for what they are paying for those houses, and eventually rented them out afterwards for income.  Or a 4plex, maybe not enough space but they could have just let the kids stay with the other moms.  Its only temporary anyhow.

Since Meri is still in Vegas why can't she stage the homes and get them ready to sell.

There is no logic to the way these people think.  NONE

5 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

When I saw Ysabel lifting that table into the moving truck, I cringed.  That cannot be good for scoliosis, can it?  

Manufactured drama, just to keep the Brown Fambly Shitshow alive.  We are persecuted plygs, everyone!

I was thinking the very same thing when I saw her doing that.  And what even possessed her to do that herself.   I didn't see anyone rushing in to help her either.

Edited January 6, 2020 by Tatortot

[Twopper]

27 minutes ago, LucyEth said:

Something has to have happened at Meri's besides the filming and moving.  I don't think police go to someone's house to tell them the neighbors don't like you and want you to move.  

I have no proof of what happened, but it looked like a smaller cul de sac than the one in Vegas so I imagine one or more vehicles were blocking traffic for a time, and Kody was warned to not block the street as it was illegal, and that's why when they moved her out, he was so insistent about backing the uhaul in as far as possible.  I think he got a warning from the police about it.

I also think he was relieved that Meri moved out as that was a rental fee that they didn't have to pay during the time she moved back to Vegas. 

Not being  Gladys Kravitz,  I  can only guess, but that makes sense to me.

[LilWharveyGal]

RECAP is in the spoiler box to avoid the dreaded wall o' text:

Spoiler

Previouslies...Dear lord it's the Lehi house!  We're going all the way back to the beginning when a younger-looking Kody still kissed all four of his younger-looking wives.  The police chased them out of Utah and they adjusted to life in separate houses in LV.  Meri was catfished.  Robyn birthed babies.  Kody planned to leave LV.  This season we'll see the move to Flagstaff in every monotonous detail!  On with the show.

Wow, there are new opening credits!  Instead of the cardboard cutouts we now see current pictures of the wives superimposed over pics of the wives with Kody, including on their wedding days.  I'm telling you, the years have not been kind.

It's raining in Flagstaff as the Browns spill out of a moving truck,  Mindy has Areola on a leash.  Kody tells us that the family arrived last night and is split up all over the city.  All of the wives have a home to go to except Christine.  Janelle yells at someone to shut the truck because she doesn't want her boxes to get wet.  Good call, Janelle, nobody likes damp naugahyde.  Kody says that the desperate scramble they find themselves in is, "spooky."  He adds that this is probably the farthest the family has ever lived from each other.  On the couch, Meri, Robyn, and Janelle could not look more bored.  Oh wait, it's a flashback to Vegas and time for Robyn to pontificate on how bad it was getting and how they were worried about what the kids were exposed to, so I think she just perked up to room temperature.  Kody explains that the time was just right to get the kids out of Vegas and into a, "safe place."  Janelle tells us that they're all in rentals in Flagstaff and Christine is quick to add that they also bought land.  We revisit scenes of the Coyote Pass property, then back to the parade of Browns carrying boxes into Janelle's rental.  There's no pantry and she bemoans how small it is.  

Ok, kids, it's revisionist history time!  Kody and Janelle have been married for 25 years and have 6 children.  Meri and Kody were Janelle's novelty polygamist friends *coughinlawscough* that she could bring up as an icebreaker at parties.  Janelle grew up LDS but found Kody and Meri's faith appealing.  She decided to convert and marry, "the best guy I know," Kody.  *coughafterdivorcingMeri'sbrothercough*

The family goes upstairs to tour Janelle's rental.  Gabe has a huge room furnished with a toddler-sized table and chairs.  Kody declares that he doesn't have a single master bedroom as big as this room.  Oh poor baby, sit at your baby table and drink your baby bottle you big whiner.  Janelle tells us that Gabe's had a hard time with the move and we flashback to last season's uncomfortable discussions.  On the couch, Ysabel, Gabe, Briana, Gwen, and Aurora are asked for their feelings about the move.  Gabe dances around giving an outright negative answer while all five of them make not-very-happy faces.  Kody tells us that Gabe was the only kid to not visit Coyote Pass and that he refused to see Flagstaff, so Gabe's introduction to the place was the Brown's disorganized unpacking of Janelle's crap in a rainstorm.  Never a recipe for success.  Meri suggests that the crowd huddled under the shelter of Janelle's porch roof drive the truck to her house instead and dump the remainder of Janelle's items in Meri's garage.  Robyn tells us that living so far apart is a change for their, "culture."  Janelle and Meri think that their community and family structure are in jeopardy if they can't all come back together on Coyote Pass.

After commercials, the rain is totally gone and Meri unloads Sol from her SUV.  They're at Meri's blue rental house and their giant, obvious U-Haul hilariously has duct tape over the brand name.  Meri tells us that she's 15-20 minutes away from both Robyn and Janelle.  Kody repeats that this is the farthest they've ever been from each other.  He thinks that the only answer is to scramble to get new houses built, and Janelle worries what will happen if they can't pull it together.  Kody shoots her a WTF face and she says, "I'm sorry, I'm one of those people who thinks."  I'll give us all a second to pick ourselves up off the floor after that gem.  Back at Meri's, Ysabel asks if they can have sleepovers.  The family goes inside for a tour and for such an externally cute house I'm wondering why the living room is puke yellow.  We now flashback through the saga of Kody and Meri starting with their 1990 wedding.  Then Janelle came along in '93.  Meri was raised in a large plural family so polygamy was not abnormal to her.  Kody was raised LDS but believed in their doctrine that all plygs go to heaven.  Back in "real time," the Browns see Meri's guest room.  On the couch, Meri is asked if Mariah has a room.  Meri pouts and says Mariah will be a guest whenever she chooses to visit.  She informs us that Mariah lives in Chicago and dates Audrey.  Kody randomly adds that he's traditional and doesn't want his non-married children sharing rooms with their significant others.  

As the horde hoists Janelle's piano into Meri's garage, Christine muses on past moves and says it would be too heartbreaking to think about what they've left behind.  Robyn says she doesn't feel like she has the right to feel anything, then gives a deep sigh so long I can feel the breeze from here.  Janelle cleans her fingernails.  Meri examines her shooties.  "...Because we chose this," Robyn concludes.  The mastermind's chickens have come home to roost, eh?  She says the verdict's out on whether this was a wise idea.  The piano movers jump and high five while Mindy pulls Areola away from them in the background.  Kody defines success as living together and his children seeing this place as home.  Well on that note, Meri tells the couch dwellers that "last night" while she and Kody were finishing up some things the police arrived in response to a neighbor complaint.  Apparently there's no footage of this chilling incident, so the producers have added the effect of flashing red and blue lights to the daytime shot of the front of Meri's house.  Kody and Meri describe how they tried to talk to the neighbor, who kept Kody at arm's length and wouldn't shake Meri's hand.  Meri is worried because she has a year's lease, and says she will have to win over the neighbor.  Kody insists that this one, "bad apple," doesn't represent the entire community.  

We're now at Robyn's house where an obvious Penske rental truck (again with brand name taped-over) is being unloaded.  Robyn repeats that she's 15 minutes away from Janelle and that the gang is far away from each other, but that the ultimate goal is to build and come together on their land.  You'll all be intrigued to know that there are 3 fridge/freezers in Robyn's garage full of meat harvested from the Winn Brown ranch and the freezers aren't hooked up or something.  We're also treated to an accounting of how much milk, bread, eggs, and meat the family as a whole consumes.  Well, apparently the freezers were fine so in the immortal words of Queen:  Nothing really matters, anyone can see.  Though Christine takes this non-issue as an opportunity to point out that monogamists might only have one garage freezer, if that.  I'll see your three freezers and raise you one legal husband, Christine.

Upstairs at Robyn's, Sol's bed is being put in the master.  We now get the rundown on Robyn - she was raised in polygamy and wanted to live in the faith, but cookie monster/husband number one and she had a rough marriage so they split and she spent a couple years as a single mom.  Meri and Kody met Robyn at a friend's house and there was a connection, the Meri of Seasons Past tells us in flashback.  Robyn and Kody got married in 2010.  The rain is now dripping off the not-Penske truck while Aurora dances barefoot in the driveway.  Janelle is concerned about slipperiness.  Changing the subject, we now hear Kody talk about keeping the same wife rotation schedule even though they're in a new town.  Changing the subject again, Meri tells us that her neighbors approached the owner of her rental who is now second-guessing their arrangement.  Meri feels that the neighbors are, "bulling," (yes, you read that right) her and if they succeed in kicking her out they win.

After the break, in typical Brown fashion it's time to gather the family for an announcement:  the financing came through on Christine's house and she's getting her keys.  She and Kody could not find a suitable rental anywhere in Flagstaff so they had to buy.  The plan is now to move Christine into her new house and move Meri out of her old house.  That's right, the owner terminated the lease.  Meri's plan is to stay at a hotel for the night then go back to her wet bar in Vegas.  We now tour Christine's house.  It's only 3 bedrooms so the upstairs living room is going to be the master suite.  Kody tells us that this is something plygs do all the time.  Faaaaaascinating.  Time for the Christine story - she is polygamy royalty and Kody was introduced to Christine by Christine's sister just a few months after he married Meri.  Kody had a, "zing," and Christine's dad really wanted her to marry him.  But Kody couldn't be romantic with Christine in front of his other wives, so he masked his desire to say, "hubba hubba!" with disgust at her eating nachos.  Oops, was I supposed to forget that version of the story?  Carrying on, Kody points out the general direction of the Coyote Pass property.  Janelle wishes that they didn't have to scramble with Meri's stuff so they could go over to Coyote Pass.  More boxes are moved at Christine's house.  Christine devises a plan for Meri, Kody, and the boys to move Meri's crap which Kody shuts down with a no, because, "where we go one we go all."  This motto is ostensibly to make the wives feel united, but Kody admits that in this instance he didn't want to have to go do a lot of work with only a few people.  Robyn vehemently insists that the women weren't going to sit around.  Instead, "We get crap done!"  As they prepare to move Meri again, conversation turns to another run in with her nasty neighbors.

Meri's skin is not ready for its close-up, Mr. DeMille.  But she's telling us that although legally she had the right to stay in her rental she has chosen to leave.  As the moving trailer comes into the cul de sac, she voiceovers that she wants to get in and get out because she's rilly afraid the neighbors are going to cause another big dill.  By the way, she hates calling this the cul de sac because in Vegas the cul de sac meant something good, and Kody adds it was their, "safe space."  Wait...I thought it wasn't safe and Flagstaff had to be the new safe space?  Kody can't get into the driveway correctly and is worried that the neighbors will call the cops again because his truck is hanging into the street.  Robyn thinks this is bullcrap in the land of the free and the home of the brave.  In the next shot, Kody has successfully parked in the driveway but another SUV and trailer have parked in the cul de sac.  The family tote water and snacks into the kitchen.  Truely asks Meri why she has to leave and Meri informs her it's because of the neighbors.  With the glare off those puke yellow walls I'm infinitely relieved that we'll never have to see this place again.  On the couch, a riled up Christine says she doesn't want these people looking at her kids with hatred or fear.  What about pity?  Savanah asks if leaving gives the people who don't like their family power.  Meri responds that she sees Savanah's point but didn't want to live where there was funky energy.  The piano is re-loaded into a trailer.  Dayun notices that one of the neighbors is standing at his window watching.  Meri adds that the neighbors are filming, and a black screen informs us all that the neighbors didn't give their permission to be on camera.  This all feels very contrived so I will spare you the Browns' further dissection of these events, but as they leave a female Brown exclaims, "Sayonara, bitches!"  

Back in Vegas again, Meri tells us it's been a month since everyone else left.  She recaps the entire move to and from Flagstaff that we just saw.  She does inform us that she's already found another rental house that won't be available for a couple of months.  In the meantime she's thrilled to be staying in Vegas.  Meri says that it's been a rough couple of years, and she puts up walls or doesn't always express her fillings because she doesn't want to hurt her family.  They always ask her if she's coming along with them and she's tired of it.  Flashback to the move conversation last season when nobody knew if Meri planned to go to Flagstaff or not.  She tells the director that it's lonely in the cul de sac even though they never used to interact every day.  On the couch, Kody and the remaining wives think it's sad and disjointed that Meri's back in Vegas.  Back in Flagstaff, Kody cleans Robyn's gutters and Christine takes Truely to register for school.  In her serious whispery voice, Christine tells us that Truely has not been happy because she needs her own space, a routine, and the comforts of home.  At school, apparently Truely told the principal all about her four moms but neglected to mention her dad.  In Vegas again, Meri's still sitting amongst her racks of LLN when there's a thump outside.  Somebody is working on a wall outside and the director tells Meri, "it's trashed."  Through flashbacks, Meri explains that when they all lived in the cul de sac the Browns didn't want walls between their yards.  Now, in order to sell, the walls are being built and it's really disappointing to her.  I thought she liked putting walls up?  She clomps into the yard to survey the damage.  She doesn't know when the family will be back together and a team again.

Kody now tells us that it's been weeks since they've been in Flagstaff and they still haven't gathered as a family.  Whoa, did I hallucinate the big announcement segment?  At Robyn's rental, Kody calls all the wives to the conference table to discuss the fact that they're paying 5 mortgages and 3 rentals.  Apart from the money issue , the distance is really grating on Kody.  But the financial picture is, "bleak," according to Janelle, and Kody thinks they have to get the Vegas houses moving.  Janelle tells us that the holidays are coming and people won't be shopping for houses.  She says that Christmas might be homemade like in the old days.  Robyn tells us that she and Kody have always disagreed on how big to do Christmas because it's her favorite holiday, and she sums up her warm, family-oriented thoughts with a word that has to be bleeped.  She doesn't want Christmas to be, "dumbed down," for the kids who just had to leave Vegas.  Gwen and some of the little kids interrupt the conference.  Janelle takes this opportunity to tell us that Gabe is still melancholy and depressed.  Meri is happy to see her, "little buddy," Sol.  Kody asks about budgets.  Robyn tells us that she committed to hosting a family reunion before the move so she has to do it.  Janelle says something about the houses maybe not selling until spring, and Kody says that that cannot happen because it will break them.

After the break, Kody reiterates that the family has essentially 9 payments which is moronic even by plyg standards.  "Terrible planning!" he exclaims.  I refer him to his whiteboard planning presentation from last season.  If they could sell just 1 of the Vegas homes it would take the pressure off.  He switches gears to his disappointment at not having any adult kids nearby.  "Who was the, "We've gotta move!" guy?" Janelle retorts.  In interviews, all of the wives figuratively roll their eyes at Kody.  Kody thinks Flagstaff is heaven and wants all the kids to move there.  Christine says that she talks up Flagstaff to the adult kids all the time but they're not coming.  They wrap up the meeting by realizing that they're in a holding pattern until the Vegas homes sell.   

At Robyn's, Kody asks Truely to round everybody up because they're going to go look at Coyote Pass.  Janelle is anxious about Gabe finally seeing it.  Christine hopes that visiting the property will cement them all together.  Their caravan of shiny, fully functioning vehicles rolls up to Coyote Pass.  Kody points out the property line to Gabe.  Robyn thinks Gabe's mouth fell open when he saw the mountain view.  The family then walks over to the piece de resistance, the pond.  Gabe rolls up his pants like he's going to walk into the water.  Dayun throws a log in to test the depth.  Mindy's got charge of Areola again - who's minding the tanning beds in Vegas??  Gabe strips down to his underwear and runs into the water, which Kody informs us contains cow manure.  

"This is the payoff," says Janelle on the couch.  Whatever you say, sweetie.  When Kody sees how deep the water is, everyone loses what's left of their minds.  Kody starts talking about stripping down to his skivvies and how they might fall off.  The "triplets" are so competitive that Gwen jumps in after Gabe to much hooting and hollering from the rest of them.  The girls all go in fully clothed.  Dayun removes at least his shirt.  Then Kody does what he threatened to do and strips down.  TLC bizarrely pixellates his underwear, which hides nothing.  Maybe they were U-Haul branded, too.  Christine says this is one of Kody's best dad moments later.  Robyn turns on the faux tears to talk about Kody finally being on his own piece of land with his kids.  Christine recalls how Gwen told her that Gwen doesn't think the houses will be built before she graduates high school.  Janelle also doesn't think it'll happen anytime soon.  By the time they sell the Vegas houses and get through construction it could be 2 or 3 years.  Kody says that even if they fail they'll survive.  

Coming up this season.... there's snow at Christmas,  Axel is going to be a big brother,  Audrey and Mariah are engaged,  a sobbing Meri evacuates for wildfire, Maddie labors in a tub again  (DEAR GOD, WHY?!?!?), Kody and Meri see Therapist Nancy,  Kody's tired of Robyn getting the other wives' table scraps and Robyn feels disenfranchised by polygamy.

Happy New Year, folks!  Let's kill some brain cells together!