S18.04: The Ultimate Upcycle

[ElectricBoogaloo]

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Guest mentor Karla Welch tasks the designers with dressing her client, Karlie Kloss; the designers must recycle donated clothing from a Goodwill store to create their looks, and they must be both resourceful and fast for this one-day challenge.

Original air date: 1/2/20

[hoodooznoodooz]

Cooking with grease?

[Mindthinkr]

Victoria just doesn’t like small people. Ok then. Isn’t she small? 

I guess it’s like other designers who don’t like size zeros. (Small people are more likely to be a size zero). 

Did this designing thing turn around 180and I didn’t notice? Le sigh. 

[Straycat80]

Somebody needs to tell Sergio he’s not the mentor, Christian is. 

[Emmeline]

I often don’t like the stylists I’ve seen on this show.  Karla Welsh seemed helpful without being too condescending.  
Wow, Kalie Kloss seemed to flip her lid when Tyler brought up the Kushners, wonder why?

Edited January 3, 2020 by Emmeline

[TexasGal]

If the editing monkeys hold true, we learned a lot about Victoria so far this week so things aren’t looking great for her.  But maybe they are going to mix things up this time?

Edited to add - I guess it was something different!  And the gasping reaction to Tyler saying “the Kushners” really cracked me up.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I like Karla much more than the Look-at-me-I’m-so-wacky! woman.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I love Marquise’s black and white striped long-sleeved shirt. I want to peek in his closet. I would love to see him getting dressed to go to a party.

[Thumper]

I thought using double-sided tape was a no-no on PR.

[Straycat80]

Oh boy, the look Karlie gave Tyler when he said ‘dinner with the Kushners’! You could practically see laser beams coming out of her eyes. 

[Thumper]

3 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Oh boy, the look Karlie gave Tyler when he said ‘dinner with the Kushners’! You could practically see laser beams coming out of her eyes. 

LOL. I had to google that; I’m out of the loop!  I don’t think his outfit “fit” the Paris scene, but it was sort of “ladies who lunch” vibe and I’m not sure what he said was so awful.  Is Karlie trying to hide who she is married to??? 

[WaltersHair]

Oh puhleez with the Kushner gasp.  Tyler needed to go home, but not for the comment.

I love Nancy, but that pink top is a mess. Why are the judges loving messy looks this season?

I know it's a failing of mine, but I really dislike the asymmetrical look paired with the hated cutout. but  overall it was the classiest of the three they picked.

Does anyone remember the challenge when the designers had to do horrible retired trends and both cutouts and asymmetry listed?

[BusyOctober]

I’m still watching...recorded so I can FF thru ads.  I just had to jump on here to say that was the neatest, cleanest, most organized Good Will store I have ever seen!  My guess is some PA’s and junior assistants to the PA’s were sent to a real Good Will to load up a truck with racks of stuff, then set up “the store” <<wink wink>> in some recently vacated retail space.  

[Thumper]

So funny — I liked the pink top.  Not because it was pink (not my favorite), but I liked the pleating, and it was a lighter look, as one of the judges mentioned.  The denim skirt was innovative, but looked heavy.

Next week — group challenge!!!  Eeeeek.

[MerBearStare]

5 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Is Karlie trying to hide who she is married to??? 

Well, the Kushners are trashy assholes, so I wouldn't exactly be shouting from the rooftops that I was married to one. 

Glad to see Nancy finally getting some love. Victoria's appeal is lost on me. I don't get why the judges love her so much.

There were a few contestants they showed this episode and I was like, "Who the hell are you?" Like the tall girl who made the all denim outfit and the blonde girl who isn't the one from Texas. I did not care for that all denim outfit at all. It also reminded me of a challenge from Christian's season when they had to make outfits from Levi's. Weren't too concerned about the environmental impact of jeans during that challenge.

For someone who thinks so highly of himself, I'm sure it's eating Sergio alive that he's so consistently middle of the pack.

[Nidratime]

42 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

I often don’t like the stylists I’ve seen on this show.  Karla Welsh seemed helpful without being too condescending.  
Wow, Kalie Kloss seemed to flip her lid when Tyler brought up the Kushners, wonder why?

Apparently, Karlie is married to Jared Kushner's brother, who actually is better looking than Jared, but that's beside the point. In any event, the family didn't approve and wouldn't accept her for a long time. To be honest, to be shunned by that family would be an honor.

[charming]

I’m a horrible person because I loved watching Karlie’s face crack at the mention of the disgusting family she married into. Hahahaha. 

Tyker was struggling and it was a given he was going home. I wish Alan had stayed last week.

The producers had fun with the Christian save music and slow motion as if he was going to waste it so early in the season.

Edited January 3, 2020 by charming

[QQQQ]

9 minutes ago, Thumper said:

LOL. I had to google that; I’m out of the loop!  I don’t think his outfit “fit” the Paris scene, but it was sort of “ladies who lunch” vibe and I’m not sure what he said was so awful.  Is Karlie trying to hide who she is married t

I read that Josh Kushner and Karlie are Democrats, so it kinda makes it a weird reaction on her part (meaning, Tyler's 'zinger' falls flat). You think she would have developed a better comeback (or any comeback) after 8 years.

[bencr]

There is a meanness to this show that I just don't like, and I always feel a little tense after watching. That's all I have to say.

[Straycat80]

Not a surprise Tyler got the boot and I don’t think it was for that Kushner comment, his design was awful plus his attitude sucked. 
I guess I could see Karlie wearing Victoria’s design, it was the most classy out of the top three, and that’s not much of a compliment. Nancy’s was ok but I pictured it on an older woman. The denim design, no, not for Paris. 
The other two bottom designs were awful, those guys should have been booted too. 
Can’t wait for next week! 80’s and Cindy Lauper! 

[CraftyHazel]

8 minutes ago, BusyOctober said:

I’m still watching...recorded so I can FF thru ads.  I just had to jump on here to say that was the neatest, cleanest, most organized Good Will store I have ever seen!  My guess is some PA’s and junior assistants to the PA’s were sent to a real Good Will to load up a truck with racks of stuff, then set up “the store” <<wink wink>> in some recently vacated retail space.  

I live in a small Midwest town and our Goodwill’s clothing section is nice like that.  Color-coordinated and very organized.  The rest of the store, however, looks like crap.

[Nordly Beaumont]

I don't think Victoria deserved her other top threes, but I'm not mad at her win. The JEANS tho! That was a horrible outfit! Top three? Don't get it. 

I like how polite Geoffrey is, apologizing for messing up the store and telling his model "it was nice to meet you." That reminds me, my mother hates when people say "Sure!" or "Uh huh" when they receive a thank you. She would love Christian, when he gets a thank you he always responds "You're welcome!"

I won't miss Tyler. He's cute, but not as clever as he thinks he is and was trying to hard to be a quotable personality.

[Thumper]

So — do you think Sergio is a snake/The Evil Empire, or not?  
Not sure I caught it all tonight.  

[breezy424]

Sorry.  She's married to a Kushner.  He's a long time democrat.   I don't think Tyler did anything wrong.  Like it or not, she's part of that family.  No need for the dagger eyes.

Wait.  There's a Melanie?   The blond.

Loved the stylist. 

Can't stand Sergio.

There were some pretty bad designs.

I wished Nancy won because......I just like her and her design was great and she's a woman who is 'older' and had the courage to start a new career.

[chitowngirl]

That Goodwill looks like it’s the one near downtown Brooklyn.

[Emmeline]

Clearly going to the Kushner’s home is a sore spot.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/amp26862085/josh-kushner-karlie-kloss-family-tension/

[laprin]

17 hours ago, QQQQ said:

I read that Josh Kushner and Karlie are Democrats, so it kinda makes it a weird reaction on her part (meaning, Tyler's 'zinger' falls flat). You think she would have developed a better comeback (or any comeback) after 8 years.

I think her reaction was based on his tone and intent and not because she is ashamed of her husband. Anyone can easily google that. It’s also front and center on her wikipedia page. Tyler meant it as a dig. He knew it. Karlie knew it and by their expressions so did the other designers and judges. Even without the comment, I was over Tyler. He and Sergio are both cocky and dismissive of constructive feedback, but Sergio can somewhat back up his arrogance, Tyler not so much. 

Edited January 3, 2020 by laprin

[charming]

I was disappointed that the much anticipated sabotaaaaage was based on a brief clip of Sergio encouraging the use of pants. What a letdown!

I continue to be charmed by Dr. Couture he’s very handsome and takes his work seriously. I was scared for him when he was in distress about using the garments from Goodwill.

I was also completely charmed by Chelsea and her giant glasses. She seems very cool and down to earth.

[Straycat80]

4 minutes ago, Marmiarmo said:

I live in a small Midwest town and our Goodwill’s clothing section is nice like that.  Color-coordinated and very organized.  The rest of the store, however, looks like crap.

Ditto. I also live in a small Midwestern town and our Goodwill is the same. The clothing section is  neat, clean, color coordinated. But the other departments look like a pile of junk. 

[QQQQ]

3 minutes ago, Nordly Beaumont said:

I don't think Victoria deserved her other top threes, but I'm not mad at her win. The JEANS tho! That was a horrible outfit! Top three? Don't get it. 

I like how polite Geoffrey is, apologizing for messing up the store and telling his model "it was nice to meet you." That reminds me, my mother hates when people say "Sure!" or "Uh huh" when they receive a thank you. She would love Christian, when he gets a thank you he always responds "You're welcome!"

I hate it when I thank people and they respond, "No problem!" (I'm talking about workers just doing their regular jobs). I guess it's better than completely silent transactions though...

[Madding crowd]

I really didn’t like any of the outfits but I guess Victoria’s was the best of the top three. I also liked the glittery top, I think that was Delvin’s. Why did so many pick jeans? It seemed like a jeans challenge.

I know Tyler probably meant the Kushner comment as a dig but I hate it when the judges act like someone can’t make a comment in their presence. His outfit was bad but I actually thought the enormous jeans pants were worse.

[jacksgirl]

Really didn't love any of the outfits, still too many designers to get to know them. Liked stylist a lot more than nutjob Marnie. Half the fun is the Mood trip and picking fabrics. So much asymmetry. Disappointed this week.

[dbell1]

Bye Tyler, take your crap excuses and that hat and go home. I thought the crack about Karlie’s husband was just a bitch move. When you take Goodwill and make it worse, you’re the issue.

Sergio wants his earth shaking opinions to live on in the world. Okay. 🙄

Victoria is growing on me, but she needs to break out of the bombshell sex kitten designing.

 

[Ellaria]

That was entertaining but not in a good way. Tyler deserved to go home a few weeks back so this wasn’t a surprise. Not sure what to make of his Kushner comment and the subsequent reactions. I had no idea that Karlie was married to a Kushner but...ugh.

I didn’t like any of the top 3 outfits. I especially don’t understand their love for Nancy’s skirt. There were two “safe” outfits that I liked better. Overall, I was completely underwhelmed by everything that came down the runway.

Didn’t care for the impatient, dissatisfied tone from the judges tonight. They appear to be bored with the talent this season. IMO, the challenges are not showcasing the best of these designers: four episodes in and we’ve had a team challenge, Christmas decorations and a trip to Goodwill. And next week is another team challenge? Not thrilled.

Edited January 3, 2020 by Ellaria Sand

[CraftyHazel]

8 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Ditto. I also live in a small Midwestern town and our Goodwill is the same. The clothing section is  neat, clean, color coordinated. But the other departments look like a pile of junk. 

It would be funny if we were in the same small Midwestern town!

[BlackberryJam]

When a judge says, “I wouldn’t wear your outfit anywhere,” it’s definitely an insulting clap back to say, “Not even to dinner with your in-laws who hate your guts?” Yikes. Just yikes. Did he think that was going to go over well?

Victoria’s was the best of a not so great lot. I love Nancy, but that wasn’t her best work. I need more Nancy on the runway.

I also like Dr. Couture, Delvin. He seems like he’s running as fast as he can from what he perceives as his trashy roots. He also apparently just likes working and being quiet with himself. I wasn’t fond of his look this time, but I like his personality. 

Chelsey’s jean jeans were a hideous monstrosity.

 

ETA: Maybe I misread, but I didn’t think Karlie Was upset at being outed for having married a Kushner, but rather upset that Tyler was bringing up how much his family has very publicly expressed their loathing of her.

Edited January 3, 2020 by BlackberryJam
Clarifying

[QQQQ]

5 minutes ago, laprin said:

I think her reaction was based on his tone and intent and not because she is ashamed of her husband Anyone can easily google that. It’s also front and center on her wikipedia page. Tyler meant it as a dig. He knew it.Karlie knew it and by their expressions so did the other designers and judges, Even without the comment, I was over Tyler. He and Sergio are both cocky and dismissive of constructive feedback, but Sergio can somewhat back up his arrogance, Tyler not so much. 

Yes, that's why I think it was a lame insult on Tyler's part - it's not a secret. And I'm sure she's heard worse over the years. So I thought it was weird she just stammered a bit. The other thing to remember is if she'd wanted that edited out, I'm sure it would have been. So good on her for leaving it in bc I'm sure some will say that's what led to Tyler's elimination.

[Thumper]

5 minutes ago, BlackberryJam said:

When a judge says, “I wouldn’t wear your outfit anywhere,” it’s definitely an insulting clap back to say, “Not even to dinner with your in-laws who hate your guts?” Yikes. Just yikes. Did he think that was going to go over well?

Victoria’s was the best of a not so great lot. I love Nancy, but that wasn’t her best work. I need more Nancy on the runway.

I also like Dr. Couture, Delvin. He seems like he’s running as fast as he can from what he perceives as his trashy roots. He also apparently just likes working and being quiet with himself. I wasn’t fond of his look this time, but I like his personality. 

Chelsey’s jean jeans were a hideous monstrosity.

 

ETA: Maybe I misread, but I didn’t think Karlie as upset at being outed for having married a Kushner, but rather upset that Tyler was bringing up how much his family has very publicly expressed their loathing of her.

Ahh, okay.  My (minor) googling did not turn up the info that the family isn’t enamored of her. Thanks for the info.

[lovinbob]

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Somebody needs to tell Sergio he’s not the mentor, Christian is. 

But what if he dies and his knowledge were to disappear!? The horror!

28 minutes ago, Nordly Beaumont said:

I like how polite Geoffrey is, apologizing for messing up the store and telling his model "it was nice to meet you." That reminds me, my mother hates when people say "Sure!" or "Uh huh" when they receive a thank you. She would love Christian, when he gets a thank you he always responds "You're welcome!"

I really agree about "You're welcome" -- your mom is a wise woman. Thank you for pointing that out about Geoffrey. His personal style is a turn-off for me (I can't put my finger on it but it's something about the fact that he seems like he is headed to the club at all times), but I agree that his general demeanor is polite and respectful.

Regarding the Kushner jab--I'm not 100% sure Karlie's reaction as shown was actually a reaction to the comment. The way Tyler's comment was shown, it came across as bitchy and try-hard, so I'm not surprise by the designers' reactions. I loved that they were all cringing from second-hand embarrassment. Not sorry to see him go, although he was quite beautiful. Reminded me of a brunette Twiggy. 

I loved Nancy's look and would have preferred Chelsey's if it had a non-denim top. 

[mightysparrow]

Tyler is my hero.  If mentioning her family is so taboo, maybe she shouldn't have married into such a trash family.  Too bad Tyler's outfit sucked.

[Straycat80]

I noticed some of the designers make and wear outfits to match their models designs for the runway show. I think they should just concentrate on the model designs only  because so far nothing being presented has been that great. 

[WaltersHair]

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Clearly going to the Kushner’s home is a sore spot.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/amp26862085/josh-kushner-karlie-kloss-family-tension/

If the family is so traditional, why are the grandkids going for schiksas?

edited for too much info

Edited January 3, 2020 by WaltersHair

[BlackberryJam]

3 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

Tyler is my hero.  If mentioning her family is so taboo, maybe she shouldn't have married into such a trash family.  Too bad Tyler's outfit sucked.

 Considering her politics are the polar opposite of her brother-in-law's, and so are her husband's, she didn't marry her husband's family, she married a Democrat whose values match hers. We don't get to choose our families. And we don't get to choose the families of our loved ones. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

I am kind of baffled that the designer who created those first three looks also created what Victoria sent down the runway this week. Those first three looks had a hoochie mama vibe. This week’s was elegant and clever (although I think the shoulders are way too big). I almost wonder if it was a fluke.

Edited January 3, 2020 by hoodooznoodooz

[hula-la]

I liked Chelsey’s version of the Canadian Tuxedo (denim on denim), but I preferred the top to the pants. It was really nice to see Nancy receiving some praise for her work.

As for Sergio, using fabric leftover from designers is known as using deadstock fabric, not upcycling. There’s no shame in the deadstock game (it’s still a good environmental practice, and it's how I got my hands on some Valentino fabric), but it’s not the same as redesigning an already made garment.  

And, I noticed his not so subtle shade of self-taught designers. I’m a teacher, and I have nothing but respect for people who are self taught. They are interested in learning. That’s whats important to me, not how they learned it. 

[mightysparrow]

1 minute ago, hula-la said:

And, I noticed his not so subtle shade of self-taught designers. I’m a teacher, and I have nothing but respect for people who are self taught. They are interested in learning. That’s whats important to me, not how they learned it. 

Agreed.  Sergio's disdain of the self-taught is more a reflection on him than on them.  It's unfortunate that his extensive training didn't teach him a little grace or class. 

[BusyOctober]

I was confused why Tyler kept going on and on about “East Coast, Cape Cod, oMartha’s Vineyard...” I barely know anything about fashion or models, but even I knew Karlie is from the suburbs of St. Louis! I know these contestants don’t have access to social media or Google while they are on the show, but wouldn’t you do a little recon/research on the host and judges before you got to the show?  

 I got a good evil chuckle out of Tyler’s dinner with the Kushner jab (it was oh so definitely meant as a jab).  I am a life long resident of Massachusetts, and spent just about every childhood and teen summer down the Cape and on the Vineyard. As an adult, my family has been going to coastal Maine for 2 weeks every August for 20 years.  In all my time in these summer places, none of us, nor any of  our neighbors, walk around in nautical garb or seersucker 24/7!  (Although, I do have a couple of vintage Lily Pulitzer sundresses that I practically live in, much to the shame and embarrassment of my 12 year old daughter).

[hoodooznoodooz]

I love Shavi. I love the way he spoke about his grandmother. I love that they took apart well-constructed garments and put them back together. I love how he handled the criticism. 

[FormerMod-a1]

Yes, "the Kushners" were mentioned on the episode.  That does NOT mean you get free reign to talk politics or politicians that were not mentioned.  

[hoodooznoodooz]

1 hour ago, bencr said:

There is a meanness to this show that I just don't like, and I always feel a little tense after watching. That's all I have to say.

I agree. I think Brendan enjoys delivering b- - - -y one-liners.