S07.E09: I Don't Have A Choice

[RosieRoses]

Spoiler

 

Tania is a BITCH! Straight up!! She brought this man over here, THEN left him for 30 days!!! THEN acts like that!?!?!? GTFOH Tania! You dont deserve that man who loves you and is concerned for your well-being you selfish, Self-centered, controlling woman!! RUN SYNGIN!!! RUN FAST AND FAR!!!! You deserve BETTER!!!!

[BallisticNikki]

13 hours ago, magemaud said:

Anny might have the boobs, but Robin has the whole package. 

Anny has the boobs and Anny has real hair.🤐

11 hours ago, RealReality said:

No tea, no shade but she is blonde, younger than Laura and doesnt look like the skipper.  If she couldn't find an aladin, she could have at least found zieds soccer friend.  How can you search the world and mursel is the best you can find?  

I doubt she was looking for Middle eastern hotties! LOL She met mersel in a beekeepers group. But yeah, prbly could have done better than mersel!

[BallisticNikki]

20 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Right? To say that seasoning isn't healthy is so weird. If you're avoiding butter and cream and olive oil and all that deliciousness, to shake things up with some red pepper flakes and lemon and capers and so many other flavorings is the best way to make sure food tastes good. Jasmine is nuts. 

Prbly thought she'd be making a big pot of chitlins.

 

Edited December 31, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[cinsays]

13 hours ago, renatae said:

Yes, the onus is on Mursel as the adult, and maybe Joey has been through this before, but we don't really know. I still find him unlikeable. Like Mursel, he seems to have no interest in anyone but himself. 

My thought is that Joey and the others are on this show reluctantly, are embarrassed by their mother's desperate need for someone/anyone, and it comes out as them being self-involved. They just want nothing to do with this mess. Imagine what their friends will say to him. Like it or not, they will see all the social media stuff about dearest mommy.

[Hangin Out]

On 12/30/2019 at 10:02 AM, RealReality said:

I think there is plenty blame to go around so that I feel comfortable blaming both mursel and Anna.  

I believe that kids the world over (even adults) are more similar than different.  If you want to build repoire with any kid you have to make an effort.  

I'm sure the kids in turkey are much better than those in America but they likely operate the same way.  Which is, honestly, the same way adults operate.  Shared interests.  

Has mursel tried to get the kids to engage in any part of beekeeping with him?  The baby boy is at a sweet age where he'd probably just like to help clean the beeswax or whatever.....or learn about how bees operate.  

Nope.  Besides insulting their food,using them as his servants and refusing to play video games with them mursel has made absolutely no effort.  Did he expect that the kids should make the effort when it is him who is interrupting their lives?  

The baby boy is just so adorable I want to cry.  Why in hell does the Father not want to see his boys?  She sure picks some winners to sleep with.  Her constant crying does not bother me at all.  Wait until you are older Anna, then go find a man.  Don’t blab all your love life to them.  She makes me so mad, I could spit.

[Mu Shu]

13 hours ago, RealReality said:

The plan?  Woke soap.  

Their plan was making money on social media and van life. They failed to take in account that Tania is not likable, interesting, or attractive. Companies who pay people to rep their products on Instagram avoid politically charged “influencers” like the plague. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

18 hours ago, IllLitShips said:

It was heartbreaking to hear Syngin pleading with Tania to give him the bare minimum of acknowledgment.  She is very selfish. The way she was taunting him about scheduling a text was cruel. He is alone and he just wants attention from the one person he knows in this entire country.

I don't entirely agree.  I think the pleading for the "I'm home" text is motivated by his jealousy. 

You want to know she's safe?  You can just assume she's safe unless you hear otherwise.  You're living in the shed in her mother's back yard--you'll find out if something goes awry.  And even if she notifies him that she's safe at 11:48, that doesn't mean she's safe at 11:49, so there will always be times when he doesn't know she's safe.

Assuming that he really is concerned and it's not just ginned up for the show, I think he's scared she's with other guys.  It looks to me like it's possibly a well-founded fear, based on how we've seen her behaving.  And didn't they meet in a bar? 

So I'm not buying this "he just wants to know she's safe" justification.  He wants to know she's not with another guy, which is also ridiculous because she can text him that she's home when she's actually in bed at somebody else's house.

Basically, I don't think he trusts her.  Not that I blame him, from what we've seen.  And he's in a strange place where he doesn't have a circle of friends, but people are basing marriages on nothing more than internet communication and a cruise-ship day stopover, so he can easily rustle up somebody back home if he really needs to talk--somebody he actually knows and has a history with. 

But I'm from an era where people could roam around unmonitored, even if they were in a relationship. 

 

21 hours ago, RealReality said:

But we can only know what we see, hypothetically mursel could be doing complicated math equations.  But we shouldn't assume that's happening because we didn't see it.

I'm not saying we should assume that's happening.  I'm saying we can't assume something isn't happening just because it isn't shown.  Like his bowel movements.  Or whatever he does during any time other than the 20 or so minutes we see of him every week, which may not have been captured on video or may have been captured but not used.  And maybe not used because it contradicted the "story" that TLC wants to tell.

 

21 hours ago, RealReality said:

We can only know what we see and I think that's the only basis upon which we can really judge or make presumptions. 

And that's what I'm wrestling with with these shows.  Like Emily is saying that the production staff provided the food that Sasha is seen throwing away.  She obviously has a dog in that fight, so I don't automatically believe her, but I wouldn't put it past TLC to do that.

Or when asked why they don't use a translating app like Pol and Kreeny have, Anna said they usually do, but TLC has them use this other (vastly inferior) one for the show.  I don't have any reason to disbelieve that, and because of that it's unfair to criticize them for that choice because it's not a choice they made.  But you wouldn't know that just from watching the show.  You'd think, "Why are they using that inferior translating app?  What morons." 

The problem is that we don't know what's real and what's made up/manufactured on these shows.  I've seen people get pretty worked up about how fictional characters on scripted TV shows, and it's known that they are fictional.  But people think the characters we're seeing on reality shows are real, and it bothers me when they go after them based on misinformation.  Sure, they signed up for the show, etc., so I don't actually feel all that sorry for them.  But I do actually feel bad for the viewers who get worked up enough to attack these people on social media or wherever, when they're basing their attack on made up stuff that they think is true.  Or, well, I don't feel all that bad if they're unhinged enough to directly attack someone they don't even know based on what they see on teevee, but I do wish they weren't so subject to believing that what they're seeing on these shows is real.

For a while, it was possible to kind of believe what I saw on various shows.  And maybe that's the problem--I date back to An American Family on PBS, and the original Real World, when things were actually kind of true.  So I know what reality shows could be (and I would say should be), and this puts me at a disadvantage.

But like I said, I love the snark here so much, and it really is better when I've watched the show to know what people are talking about.  So far, I've dealt with it by occasionally pointing out the unreality of what we're seeing, just as a reminder, or possibly an eye-opener to people not well versed in the way these shows work. 

It feels strange to have put more thought into this than the people on the show put into picking a mate.

 

[My Girls]

3 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

What we typically see is that the foreign partner is a lot more articulate in their native language. He's not. His vocabulary doesn't get anymore sophisticated in Turkish. Even Karine is capable of more complex conversation in Portuguese. However, Mursel speaks in clipped 5 word sentences in English and Turkish. That's why people keep wondering about Mursel.

Interesting.  Based on the translated conversations on my screen, I wouldn't call him mentally handicapped, but I accept your opinion that he is as such.

[Spike]

38 minutes ago, Chloe Dog said:

Based on the translated conversations on my screen, I wouldn't call him mentally handicapped, but I accept your opinion that he is as such.

He does often make the face that babies do when they are constipated.

[sasha206]

15 hours ago, renatae said:

You know, my memory is bad and I forgot how rude Mursel's behavior was when he first arrived. However, it also seems to me, and maybe I'm misremembering, that Joey told the camera before Mursel's arrival that he had no interest in him, nor any interest in getting along. It also seems to me he said the same thing to Mursel when he first arrived. I remember the younger kids trying to make conversation, etc. Mursel sat there like a bump on a log.

Yes, the onus is on Mursel as the adult, and maybe Joey has been through this before, but we don't really know. I still find him unlikeable. Like Mursel, he seems to have no interest in anyone but himself. Anna's brought this on her family, it's true. In the end, I don't have a dog in this show because they're a mess all around.

My guess is this isn't Joey's first rodeo with mom putting a lover before them.  At some point these kids know the drill.  Mommy probably brings home lots of stray men that don't stick around. This is probably the first that doesn't speak their language and who expects them to live the lie they don't exist.

[sasha206]

1 hour ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I don't entirely agree.  I think the pleading for the "I'm home" text is motivated by his jealousy. 

You want to know she's safe?  You can just assume she's safe unless you hear otherwise.  You're living in the shed in her mother's back yard--you'll find out if something goes awry.  And even if she notifies him that she's safe at 11:48, that doesn't mean she's safe at 11:49, so there will always be times when he doesn't know she's safe.

Assuming that he really is concerned and it's not just ginned up for the show, I think he's scared she's with other guys.  It looks to me like it's possibly a well-founded fear, based on how we've seen her behaving.  And didn't they meet in a bar? 

So I'm not buying this "he just wants to know she's safe" justification.  He wants to know she's not with another guy, which is also ridiculous because she can text him that she's home when she's actually in bed at somebody else's house.

Basically, I don't think he trusts her.  Not that I blame him, from what we've seen.  And he's in a strange place where he doesn't have a circle of friends, but people are basing marriages on nothing more than internet communication and a cruise-ship day stopover, so he can easily rustle up somebody back home if he really needs to talk--somebody he actually knows and has a history with. 

But I'm from an era where people could roam around unmonitored, even if they were in a relationship. 

 

I'm not saying we should assume that's happening.  I'm saying we can't assume something isn't happening just because it isn't shown.  Like his bowel movements.  Or whatever he does during any time other than the 20 or so minutes we see of him every week, which may not have been captured on video or may have been captured but not used.  And maybe not used because it contradicted the "story" that TLC wants to tell.

 

And that's what I'm wrestling with with these shows.  Like Emily is saying that the production staff provided the food that Sasha is seen throwing away.  She obviously has a dog in that fight, so I don't automatically believe her, but I wouldn't put it past TLC to do that.

Or when asked why they don't use a translating app like Pol and Kreeny have, Anna said they usually do, but TLC has them use this other (vastly inferior) one for the show.  I don't have any reason to disbelieve that, and because of that it's unfair to criticize them for that choice because it's not a choice they made.  But you wouldn't know that just from watching the show.  You'd think, "Why are they using that inferior translating app?  What morons." 

The problem is that we don't know what's real and what's made up/manufactured on these shows.  I've seen people get pretty worked up about how fictional characters on scripted TV shows, and it's known that they are fictional.  But people think the characters we're seeing on reality shows are real, and it bothers me when they go after them based on misinformation.  Sure, they signed up for the show, etc., so I don't actually feel all that sorry for them.  But I do actually feel bad for the viewers who get worked up enough to attack these people on social media or wherever, when they're basing their attack on made up stuff that they think is true.  Or, well, I don't feel all that bad if they're unhinged enough to directly attack someone they don't even know based on what they see on teevee, but I do wish they weren't so subject to believing that what they're seeing on these shows is real.

For a while, it was possible to kind of believe what I saw on various shows.  And maybe that's the problem--I date back to An American Family on PBS, and the original Real World, when things were actually kind of true.  So I know what reality shows could be (and I would say should be), and this puts me at a disadvantage.

But like I said, I love the snark here so much, and it really is better when I've watched the show to know what people are talking about.  So far, I've dealt with it by occasionally pointing out the unreality of what we're seeing, just as a reminder, or possibly an eye-opener to people not well versed in the way these shows work. 

It feels strange to have put more thought into this than the people on the show put into picking a mate.

 

Yes, I generally sift through what seems to be producer-driven.   I couldn't get worked up over Porn Grandma asking Anny about birth control.  Or Robert taking Anny used clothes shopping and apartment shopping. That said, elements of their personality come out during even the most producer-driven scenes.  I can believe all the junkfood was producer plant and they probably encouraged him to throw it out; but I believe his comments about Emily needing to get in shape is his personality coming through.  I bet the minute she gave birth, Sasha started up on her about getting back in shape.

Not sure if there has been any producer-driven scenes with Natalie, but if so, I believe 100% that Natalie is mentally unstable and is not acting the part. 

Wedding dress shopping with Anna was totally producer-driven. The tears?  No.  You could tell the relationship was a tremendous burden on her already.  She wanted to believe the fairy tale, but soon realized 3 word sentences is all she's going to get from him.

Mursel might have tried to interact with them, but what does that really matter? In the end, he wanted the kids to be a dirty little secret and they were hip to the fact he wished they didn't exist and she could move with him to Turkey.   What kid, or adult even, would want to interact with someone that hates your very existence?

[Spike]

Emily has an excuse for some temporary extra weight.  Betsey has much more weight and doesn’t share that excuse.  Also, although Sasha is an ass, I can see where it would be professionally embarrassing for a personal trainer to be married to someone who is not fit.  If he can’t convince his own wife, why should clients listen?

[sasha206]

6 minutes ago, Spike said:

Emily has an excuse for some temporary extra weight.  Betsey has much more weight and doesn’t share that excuse.  Also, although Sasha is an ass, I can see where it would be professionally embarrassing for a personal trainer to be married to someone who is not fit.  If he can’t convince his own wife, why should clients listen?

This is true.  However, when you look at the photos Emily shares when she talks about how great of shape she is in, she looks WAY skinny.   She looks pretty fit now for just having a baby.

[Cammi]

19 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

I am showing my age but Mursel reminds me of the movie Tim where the woman dates the simple minded guy, only Mursel isn't handsome like Tim (in one of the movie versions Mel Gibson in his prime played Tim). 

😂 I'll see myself out...

Thank you for the recommendation! I found “Tim” on YouTube! A young Mel Gibson before he went crazy, in short shorts and smooth, tan skin.... 🤤  Reminds me of the Treat Williams, Kelly McGillis TV movie “Bonds of Love” from 1993. I watched it as a young girl. It was heartbreaking, yet uplifting. 

Edited December 31, 2019 by Cammi

[RoxiP]

17 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

This is true.  However, when you look at the photos Emily shares when she talks about how great of shape she is in, she looks WAY skinny.   She looks pretty fit now for just having a baby.

It really doesn't matter.  It is THEIR bodies and they can live in them in any way they choose.  Sasha doesn't get a vote.

[HunterHunted]

2 hours ago, Chloe Dog said:

Interesting.  Based on the translated conversations on my screen, I wouldn't call him mentally handicapped, but I accept your opinion that he is as such.

I never said that Mursel had an intellectual disability nor did the Turkish-American Redditor. The Redditor said that they weren't comfortable speaking to that issue, but that Mursel's sister had similar speaking patterns and it was likely because they are from a smaller more provincial part of Turkey. 

[renatae]

6 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

 I’ve said before that people like Angela who get a lot of buzz probably make more than bottom feeders like frozen Finn, MRSA, and Tania.

MRSA! LOL!

[RealReality]

3 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I don't entirely agree.  I think the pleading for the "I'm home" text is motivated by his jealousy. 

You want to know she's safe?  You can just assume she's safe unless you hear otherwise.  You're living in the shed in her mother's back yard--you'll find out if something goes awry.  And even if she notifies him that she's safe at 11:48, that doesn't mean she's safe at 11:49, so there will always be times when he doesn't know she's safe.

Assuming that he really is concerned and it's not just ginned up for the show, I think he's scared she's with other guys.  It looks to me like it's possibly a well-founded fear, based on how we've seen her behaving.  And didn't they meet in a bar? 

So I'm not buying this "he just wants to know she's safe" justification.  He wants to know she's not with another guy, which is also ridiculous because she can text him that she's home when she's actually in bed at somebody else's house.

Basically, I don't think he trusts her.  Not that I blame him, from what we've seen.  And he's in a strange place where he doesn't have a circle of friends, but people are basing marriages on nothing more than internet communication and a cruise-ship day stopover, so he can easily rustle up somebody back home if he really needs to talk--somebody he actually knows and has a history with. 

But I'm from an era where people could roam around unmonitored, even if they were in a relationship. 

 

I'm not saying we should assume that's happening.  I'm saying we can't assume something isn't happening just because it isn't shown.  Like his bowel movements.  Or whatever he does during any time other than the 20 or so minutes we see of him every week, which may not have been captured on video or may have been captured but not used.  And maybe not used because it contradicted the "story" that TLC wants to tell.

 

And that's what I'm wrestling with with these shows.  Like Emily is saying that the production staff provided the food that Sasha is seen throwing away.  She obviously has a dog in that fight, so I don't automatically believe her, but I wouldn't put it past TLC to do that.

Or when asked why they don't use a translating app like Pol and Kreeny have, Anna said they usually do, but TLC has them use this other (vastly inferior) one for the show.  I don't have any reason to disbelieve that, and because of that it's unfair to criticize them for that choice because it's not a choice they made.  But you wouldn't know that just from watching the show.  You'd think, "Why are they using that inferior translating app?  What morons." 

The problem is that we don't know what's real and what's made up/manufactured on these shows.  I've seen people get pretty worked up about how fictional characters on scripted TV shows, and it's known that they are fictional.  But people think the characters we're seeing on reality shows are real, and it bothers me when they go after them based on misinformation.  Sure, they signed up for the show, etc., so I don't actually feel all that sorry for them.  But I do actually feel bad for the viewers who get worked up enough to attack these people on social media or wherever, when they're basing their attack on made up stuff that they think is true.  Or, well, I don't feel all that bad if they're unhinged enough to directly attack someone they don't even know based on what they see on teevee, but I do wish they weren't so subject to believing that what they're seeing on these shows is real.

For a while, it was possible to kind of believe what I saw on various shows.  And maybe that's the problem--I date back to An American Family on PBS, and the original Real World, when things were actually kind of true.  So I know what reality shows could be (and I would say should be), and this puts me at a disadvantage.

But like I said, I love the snark here so much, and it really is better when I've watched the show to know what people are talking about.  So far, I've dealt with it by occasionally pointing out the unreality of what we're seeing, just as a reminder, or possibly an eye-opener to people not well versed in the way these shows work. 

It feels strange to have put more thought into this than the people on the show put into picking a mate.

 

I totally understand and generally agree with your point.  For me, I only believe what I see until I'm shown evidence to the contrary.  Once there is evidence contrary to what I've seen, I weigh both things....apply what I'd like to think of as logic to come to my final determination.  

This is not nearly as contemplative a process as I've made it sound.  LOL.  

In the case of TLC buying the food for Sasha to throw away.....I'd believe it.  But I wouldn't have assumed it occured before someone said so.  Does that make sense?

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, Spike said:

Emily has an excuse for some temporary extra weight.  Betsey has much more weight and doesn’t share that excuse.  Also, although Sasha is an ass, I can see where it would be professionally embarrassing for a personal trainer to be married to someone who is not fit.  If he can’t convince his own wife, why should clients listen?

Meh, I personally wouldn't care.  Some fit guys like a little cushion for the pushin' 

I probably also wouldn't assume a male trainer trains his S/O.  Seems like that could lead to friction. 

I'd want to see and talk to other female clients the trainer had worked with.  

[sasha206]

2 hours ago, RoxiP said:

It really doesn't matter.  It is THEIR bodies and they can live in them in any way they choose.  Sasha doesn't get a vote.

Oh I totally agree.  I was just speaking to the point of why Sasha might want her to train because it's his "business."  I personally think she looks fantastic right now after baby weight and the photos of her where she thought she was fit she was way too skinny.

[Gobi]

54 minutes ago, RealReality said:

 

I'd want to see and talk to other female clients the trainer had worked with.  

Well, they all gained weight training with Sasha, but they lost most of it after nine months.

[RealReality]

5 minutes ago, Gobi said:

Well, they all gained weight training with Sasha, but they lost most of it after nine months.

LOL, kanye's workout plan!

[Adeejay]

On 12/30/2019 at 4:19 PM, Pepper Mostly said:

She reminded me of no one so much as Mirna on season five of The Amazing Race. Miss Alli at TWOP christened her weird way of speaking to locals in some weird accent as "Mirnese". 

I don't think anyone who used to post on TWOP will ever forget Miss Alli.  That woman was something else.  She temporarily banned me four times; each time for a month. Once for simply telling a poster that it was hard to believe we were watching the same show.  I've always wondered what became of her.  

I can't help but wonder what Angela intends to do when she gets to Nigeria.  Being loud and aggressive may move mountains in Georgia, but I don't think that will work in Nigeria.

[TwirlyGirly]

I want to correct some possible misconceptions regarding Blake and Jasmin's wedding and who should be footing the bill.

Here's a transcript of the conversation between Blake's mom and Jasmin (boldface mine):

Blake's mom: So Jasmin have you thought about the wedding?

Jasmin: I already actually have a dress I bought in Finland. It's not like a wedding dress. It's more like a white cocktail dress, cause like I thought we were just gonna have a small ceremony, just me and Blake. I'm not like a big wedding person so I don't know anything about weddings.

Blake's mom: Traditionally I know that the bride's family pays for the wedding, and then the groom's family pays for the rehearsal dinner. Is that something they do there?

Jasmin: I don't know how it is in Finland.

Jasmin TH: I haven't talked to my parents about the wedding and who's gonna pay, but I don't think my parents would be okay with that.

Blake's mom: Weddings can be so expensive here, so that's something to think about.

Blake's mom TH: We do have a wedding plan to set really quickly. And I do foresee that Jasmin's parents will have to help out with the wedding.
 

What I understood from that conversation is Jasmin knew she and Blake would get married (possibly by a JP - because she said it would be just the two of them), but not necessarily have a wedding. She said she's not a "big wedding person". So it sounded to me she wanted to forego a wedding entirely. Get a license, get married by a JP,  have a nice lunch (just the two of them) and DONE! Less than $200.00.

OTOH, I think Blake's mother and perhaps even Blake himself (because he's supposedly in the music industry) have other ideas and are wanting a big, traditional wedding and are hoping they can get Jasmin's parents to foot the bill.

That's not how it works. If Jasmin's parents cannot or do not want to pay for a wedding, they don't have to. If Jasmin only wants civil ceremony then she and Blake are only obligated to pay for that. 

If Blake's mother and/or Blake himself want a big, traditional wedding with all the fixin's, then THEY will have to pay for it. They can't shake down Jasmin's parents to pay for a wedding neither Jasmin nor her parents want.

Edited January 1, 2020 by TwirlyGirly
Corrected autocorrect misspelling of "Jasmin"

[TwirlyGirly]

8 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

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I can't help but wonder what Angela intends to do when she gets to Nigeria.  Being loud and aggressive may move mountains in Georgia, but I don't think that will work in Nigeria.

Oh, mountains will move alright.

The two mountains loosely attached to Angela's chest will be all over the place as she screams at and stomps all over everyone involved in Michael's visa while she demands her rights as an American taxpayer.

Just you wait and see.

 

[watchingtvaddict]

9 hours ago, Lady Iris said:

How I'd love to see the turntables turn if she was in South Africa and he decided to abandon her for a month. The girl is completely selfish, lacks empathy and should not get married while she's number one on her list with no room for anything else.

 

She probably would say him going to work everyday while she was visiting is exactly the same situation as her going on her vacation abroad  herbal medical training intensive. 

Leaving someone to their own devices for a couple of hours a day vs leaving them to their own devices for a month is very different but I don't think Tania has the empathy to recognise that. 

Edit: Or Tania would just leave Syngjin and go hook up with a different South African... that would follow her M.O. 

Edited January 1, 2020 by watchingtvaddict

[iwasish]

On 12/30/2019 at 4:23 PM, StatisticalOutlier said:

But again, we have no idea what he didn't do (although I think Mursel coming up with a Turkish dance party to connect with children would be asking a lot of the person we're seeing).

The fact that we don't see it has nothing to do with whether it happened.  If his life is only what TLC presents, the poor man hasn't had a bowel movement in months. 

We do know he pees, and leaves it for Anna to wipe off the toilet seat. 

[goofygirl]

Emily's body seems just fine but that platinum blonde hair is tragic.

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Oh, mountains will move alright.

The two mountains loosely attached to Angela's chest will be all over the place as she screams at and stomps all over everyone involved in Michael's visa while she demands her rights as an American taxpayer.

Just you wait and see.

 

I wonder if I can loan Angela my taxpayer rights.  I'm fairly sure I pay more and I don't even use the library.  

[Kdawg82]

Robert's sister Robin was ok. She was forthright & neutral. However, saying "Robert's not rich... he's not a rapper, an actor or a drug dealer" was unfortunately telling. I mean, he's not rich but he's also not a CEO, electrician or entrepreneur. He's not even an accountant or chef. 😬

[ava111]

On 12/30/2019 at 11:44 AM, sasha206 said:

It is sooooo awful on her.  She is bland in every way possible.  

I think Emily appears full of life and personality next to Jasmine. Emily at least adds a little salt and pepper while Jasmine doesn't use any spices nor butter, onions, garlic or shrimps or carbs at all as it seems.  And aren't shrimps considered pretty healthy (high on protein and omega 3)? I think Jasmine can wait until Sasha marries and divorces Emily and then they can get together.  They both are only into themselves and their appearance. Thought they better install a lots of full length mirrors at their place so they don't fight over them. They can share the broiled chicken with steamed veggies and then head to the gym.

[ava111]

On 12/30/2019 at 2:36 PM, StatisticalOutlier said:

Sigh.  I'm sure it just more of the manufactured bullshit they subject us to.

Bingo! You answered your own question. More potential for conflict and fighting. They would not be able to get any "90 day fiancee" appropriate footage without those. We would only see Jasmine looking all day into mirror and then quiet dinners of dry chicken and vegetables as she said she doesn't speak while eating. Though they could repackage it into a different kind of show for people with insomnia. Might work better than Ambien.

[ava111]

On 12/30/2019 at 4:19 PM, Pepper Mostly said:

This absolutely slayed me and I am still laughing. She's heavy into self denial. Not even a sprig of parsley (rich in vitamin C!) for the Frozen Finn. In another age she'd be wearing a hairshirt or spending hours a day on her knees in a cold church.She wants to stay thin. If your food tastes like wallpaper paste its easier not to overindulge.  In the live chat thread I suggested that she and Sasha should hook up. They could go to the gym, then eat flavorless, unseasoned, "healthy" food together. 

Oops! I just wrote almost exactly the same thing before I even read your post. (It might be actually posted above this post.) Great minds think alike! 😉

On 12/30/2019 at 8:52 PM, b2H said:

Darcy is in Middletown - that is only about half an hour from Colchester.

Someone should tell him.

 

Singin deserves better! I wouldn't have a heart to send him from one nutcase to another nutcase.

On 12/31/2019 at 3:45 AM, LilaFowler said:

Betsy (Emily's sister) looks and acts like a drunk. I think she was drunk in every scene she appeared in during this episode.

I think I would want to drink too if I had to share my own apartment with 3 extra people and one of them is completely self absorbed asshole who throws away my food. 

[Gobi]

8 hours ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Oh, mountains will move alright.

The two mountains loosely attached to Angela's chest will be all over the place as she screams at and stomps all over everyone involved in Michael's visa while she demands her rights as an American taxpayer.

Just you wait and see.

 

If Mykuhl can't come to the mountains, the mountains will come to Mykuhl!

[blubld43]

21 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Robert wants Anny to sleep with him Friday through Sunday, clean his nasty apartment every day, take care of Bryson and never meet friends or better herself.  Ever.  His gaslighting of her is really painful, actually.  "I signed a new lease but let's go look at two bedroom apartments so I can call you materialistic when you want Bryson to have his own room."  "I know I promised you Chanel but here is the Goodwill.  Now listen you grabby whore, put on these used clothes and don't ask for sex until Friday!!!"

I hope she gets a job doing hair and makeup at Disney, works twelve hours a day and leaves his sorry ass.

Could not agree more. Robert is an angry little man, he doesn't want Anny to be happy.  All the material things, we really don't know what was said to her, I believe he promised her all the things she's asked for. But for a man to react negatively when a woman asks for more sex?  He's just an asshole that enjoys misery.  Period. Run Anny.

[Spike]

5 hours ago, Kdawg82 said:

Robert's sister Robin was ok. She was forthright & neutral. However, saying "Robert's not rich... he's not a rapper, an actor or a drug dealer" was unfortunately telling. I mean, he's not rich but he's also not a CEO, electrician or entrepreneur. He's not even an accountant or chef. 😬

Yeah and many of her examples are not rich.  

[Boston]

Just saw an old re-run of New Adventures of Old Christine..and Old Chritine was only totin' 2 eggs (and she looks fabulous! - I know it's fake but I couldn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sasha206]

8 hours ago, Kdawg82 said:

Robert's sister Robin was ok. She was forthright & neutral. However, saying "Robert's not rich... he's not a rapper, an actor or a drug dealer" was unfortunately telling. I mean, he's not rich but he's also not a CEO, electrician or entrepreneur. He's not even an accountant or chef. 😬

That's a really sad statement for her to say -- as if that's the only way for him to get rich. 

1 hour ago, Boston said:

Just saw an old re-run of New Adventures of Old Christine..and Old Chritine was only totin' 2 eggs (and she looks fabulous! - I know it's fake but I couldn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait, what?  I love TNAOOC, but I"m not following this.  

[Pepper Mostly]

14 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I don't think anyone who used to post on TWOP will ever forget Miss Alli.  That woman was something else.  She temporarily banned me four times; each time for a month. Once for simply telling a poster that it was hard to believe we were watching the same show.  I've always wondered what became of her.  

Miss Alli's real name is Linda Holmes and she writes for NPR and hosts their podcast Pop Culture Happy Hour. She's also written a book. Here's her Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Holmes_(writer)

[Boston]

24 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

Just saw an old re-run of New Adventures of Old Christine..and Old Chritine was only totin' 2 eggs (and she looks fabulous!// - I know it's fake but I couldn't stop laughing..Jesus.. there was something wrong with my keyboard.. that show is hilarious.. sorry y'all

 

[Boston]

14 hours ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Oh, mountains will move alright.

The two mountains loosely attached to Angela's chest will be all over the place as she screams at and stomps all over everyone involved in Michael's visa while she demands her rights as an American taxpayer.

Just you wait and see.

 

LOLOL!! The funny thing I've beebn

 

32 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

That's a really sad statement for her to say -- as if that's the only way for him to get rich. 

Wait, what?  I love TNAOOC, but I"m not following this.  

 

32 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

That's a really sad statement for her to say -- as if that's the only way for him to get rich. 

Wait, what?  I love TNAOOC, but I"m not following this.  

sorry my keyboard was f'd up for awhile

 

i'm getting off here because something is wrong.  my keyboard works in every other server other than this one.  sorry

[sasha206]

11 minutes ago, Boston said:

LOLOL!! The funny thing I've beebn

 

 

sorry my keyboard was f'd up for awhile

 

i'm getting off here because something is wrong.  my keyboard works in every other server other than this one.  sorry

Oh bummer!  I hope you can figure it out.  Would love to know the Old Christine comment!  That was one of my favorite shows!

[brilliantbreakfast]

On 12/30/2019 at 1:38 PM, Scout Finch said:

Yes! I can do so many things myself but it's the little things I wish I had. Like, someone calling me during the day just to see how it's going, making sure I get home safely, or when my car breaks down and it's cold out and I'm tired, to have someone tell me they'll come get me and arrange for my car to get taken to the mechanic. Someone to lean on occasionally because I get tired of having to do everything my damn self, like going through my parents' deaths alone. I'm 56 and have never even been engaged. And neither of my cats can be arsed to do things like have dinner waiting for me! Bah.

I was widowed at 58 and Tania bugs the crap out of me.  Syngin actually seems like a decent guy.  If I met someone like that, I sure as hell wouldn't be running off to Costa Rica to party with a bunch of guys I'll never see again.  I get where you're coming from.  She doesn't appreciate the value of having someone there who cares if you get home OK.

[configdotsys]

1 hour ago, brilliantbreakfast said:

I was widowed at 58 and Tania bugs the crap out of me.  Syngin actually seems like a decent guy.  If I met someone like that, I sure as hell wouldn't be running off to Costa Rica to party with a bunch of guys I'll never see again.  I get where you're coming from.  She doesn't appreciate the value of having someone there who cares if you get home OK.

I keep thinking about this too. If I had a fiance and was going to some conference/course somewhere, I could see getting dinner or whatever with a few classmates, but I would not go out every night drinking in clubs in a strange place and dancing and acting all single and available.

I can't imagine what it must feel like for any fiance, male or female, to be on a FaceTime call with your significant other and they are laughing, drunk and gleefully taking selfies with strangers and putting you down for ruining their fun by simply asking for a message that you got home okay. I just don't get it. But Tania is a bitch. So maybe I do get it.

[b2H]

1 hour ago, configdotsys said:

I keep thinking about this too. If I had a fiance and was going to some conference/course somewhere, I could see getting dinner or whatever with a few classmates, but I would not go out every night drinking in clubs in a strange place and dancing and acting all single and available.

I can't imagine what it must feel like for any fiance, male or female, to be on a FaceTime call with your significant other and they are laughing, drunk and gleefully taking selfies with strangers and putting you down for ruining their fun by simply asking for a message that you got home okay. I just don't get it. But Tania is a bitch. So maybe I do get it.

Been said many times, many ways:  Tania is a self-absorbed, immature excuse for a woman who shouldn’t be allowed to take care of a houseplant, let alone a marital relationship, or any remote kind of responsibility or commitment.  She is too self-involved and cold to keep Syngyn.  After that last conversation, I would have been on the next flight out, as Anna is saying to the Turk - don’t ever contact me again.

He is entirely too good for her.  Most everyone is entirely too good for her.  Let her be a witch doctor living in her mother’s shed.  It’s cold there now.  She deserves to be alone.

[Spike]

22 minutes ago, b2H said:

Been said many times, many ways:  Tania is a self-absorbed, immature excuse for a woman who shouldn’t be allowed to take care of a houseplant, let alone a marital relationship, or any remote kind of responsibility or commitment.  She is too self-involved and cold to keep Syngyn.  After that last conversation, I would have been on the next flight out, as Anna is saying to the Turk - don’t ever contact me again.

He is entirely too good for her.  Most everyone is entirely too good for her.  Let her be a witch doctor living in her mother’s shed.  It’s cold there now.  She deserves to be alone.

She seems kinda flirty with other women so maybe het monogamy isn’t for her.

[Gigglepuff]

On 12/30/2019 at 10:44 AM, sasha206 said:

It is sooooo awful on her.  She is bland in every way possible.  

Not to be mean, but in the past, a lot of Eastern European young people followed trends (fashion, music, movies) that were about 10-20 years behind the Western world (I have no idea if this is still the case, given the influence of the Internet and social media) Remember in the 90s when disco music was all the rage in Russian clubs? Well, anyway, it's like Emily is doing the same thing, only she's American, and from the West Coast to boot! It's not like she's from some small farming community in the mid-west in the '80s, so understandably a few years behind fashion wise either. 

[Spike]

7 minutes ago, Gigglepuff said:

Not to be mean, but in the past, a lot of Eastern European young people followed trends (fashion, music, movies) that were about 10-20 years behind the Western world (I have no idea if this is still the case, given the influence of the Internet and social media) Remember in the 90s when disco music was all the rage in Russian clubs? Well, anyway, it's like Emily is doing the same thing, only she's American, and from the West Coast to boot! It's not like she's from some small farming community in the mid-west in the '80s, so understandably a few years behind fashion wise either. 

Maybe Sasha told her that he likes that look and she is trying to keep him interested.  He did say to the sister that he wouldn’t leave Emily because she doesn’t look like his first two wives lol.

[Gigglepuff]

On 12/30/2019 at 4:59 PM, Pepper Mostly said:

Right? To say that seasoning isn't healthy is so weird. If you're avoiding butter and cream and olive oil and all that deliciousness, to shake things up with some red pepper flakes and lemon and capers and so many other flavorings is the best way to make sure food tastes good. Jasmine is nuts. 

It's just such a bizarre thing to me, unless she was specifically talking about those prepared seasoning (not spices) that are high in sodium. Some of those are very unhealthy, but who on earth uses them enough to cause an issue? I understand people who are on low-sodium diets for a health concern avoiding them, but a young, healthy woman has no need to avoid them all together. So weird. 

[RealReality]

4 minutes ago, Spike said:

Maybe Sasha told her that he likes that look and she is trying to keep him interested.  He did say to the sister that he wouldn’t leave Emily because she doesn’t look like his first two wives lol.

I think this is entirely possible.  Emily is a fool for taking up with a man who abandoned two marriages and two children.  There will almost certainly be an unstated threat looming over Emily all the time that if she doesn't look physically attractive to Sasha, he will take up with the women at the gym who he absolutely isn't looking at.  

He has shown no fealty and I think she is going to try to fruitlessly do whatever she can to keep him.