S39.E12: Just Go For It

[Maggie Mae]

I knew Elaine was going when they went to commercial (which by the way were really numerous tonight) because of the sad music they played . If Noura were going I think it would be a crazier tune!

As for scummy Dan, now I know why they showed all the previous stuff. They were setting the stage for if...I mean when he did it again. IMO

OH, and Elaine will be back. Rob and Sandra love her!!! Let's hope she or Janet get the fan favorite....or both!

[DEL901]

1 minute ago, ProfCrash said:

Dude.

Maybe Production should have removed Dan earlier in the game.

Dan likely miscalculated.   A fellow castaway might hesitate rocking the boat because it could hurt their game.   A staffer would have no such reservations.  
 

The show is going to have to make some sort of statement eventually because the speculation will get out of control... maybe they are waiting for 5he reunion show because in that EW link I posted up thread, it sounded like they were going to talk about things.  

[Tryp]

One consequence of the Dan boot is that Dean's fake legacy idol should not be eligible for use -- only 5 remain.  A potential dramatic twist was lost.

[LadyChatts]

5 minutes ago, Tryp said:

One consequence of the Dan boot is that Dean's fake legacy idol should not be eligible for use -- only 5 remain.  A potential dramatic twist was lost.

Just another reason to hate Dan.  Look what he deprived us of.

[LizBug]

Dean won’t be able to use his fake Legacy Advantage but he can still use his idol blocker. And the only one with an idol is Janet. And she has to use it at the next tribal council.

[dbell1]

I’ve watched this show from the very first episode. This is not my Survivor. It used to be a show I’d watch with my son or talk about at work the next day. This year makes me feel like I need a shower. And a no pest strip. And a second chance for Kellee who had her game blown up by a pervert and two shady women.

Fuck you Probst and CBS. 

Edited December 12, 2019 by dbell1
IPad hates Kellee’s name

[phlebas]

Jed Wyatt: “I am the best at ruining my career by being on a reality show"

Dan Spiro: "Hold my beer"

[Lamima]

First, why is there no thread for tonight's episode? And, 2nd, what TF did Dan do to get booted? Not just trusting SHOW. I wanna see.

[LadyChatts]

Somewhere Dan Foley is cheering that he’s no longer the most hated Dan to ever play this game.

[DEL901]

3 minutes ago, Lamima said:

First, why is there no thread for tonight's episode? And, 2nd, what TF did Dan do to get booted? Not just trusting SHOW. I wanna see.

This is the thread for tonight’s episode, and what Dan did to get kicked off was apparently done off camera.   

[Lamima]

I'm out! 

[Koalagirl]

I think they didn’t show Dean finding his sneakers in order to leave time to show Probst telling them about Dan leaving.

[LanceM]

24 minutes ago, dbell1 said:

I’ve watched this show from the very first episode. This is not my Survivor. It used to be a show I’d watch with my son or talk about at work the next day. This year makes me feel like I need a shower. And a no pest strip. And a second chance for Keller who had her game blown up by a pervert and two shady women.

Fuck you Probst and CBS. 

Actually she had her game blown up by herself.  After pulling that move with Dean prior to the merge she put a huge target on herself and Tommy led the charge to get her out and Missy and Elizabeth were eager to jump on board after finding out that despite Kellee's complaints about Feely Dan she was willing to keep him in the game and vote Missy out

(of course it shouldn't have been up to Kellee to put up with Dan to further her game, that is on production for not removing him)

Edited December 12, 2019 by LanceM

[LadyChatts]

I think I’m also disgusted that they let Dan’s son come out to the family visit, and now his face is Permanently on this show.  Given Dan’s behavior, they should have brought someone else.  

[albinerhawk]

The women had one chance to band together for an all female alliance tonight and blew it. They were even targeting the wrong player. Why not take one of the men out? Then Dan took himself out, and now the women have one more chance. Here's hoping they take it.

[North of Eden]

Wow...CBS totally reached back into its rich history to crib from M*A*S*H's last episode featuring Maclean Stevenson's last appearance.  Just when you think the episode is over there is tacked on bit where Radar shows  up to announce Henry Blake's plane has been shot down over the Sea of Japan and we see the cast's shocked reaction....the last few minutes was that note for note only that the viewers loved Henry and dislike Dan.

Seriously though when it didn't end I had to pause my DVR to see if it was a 2 hour episode that I was unaware of and then Jeff shows up for the boot.

I guess  Dan must have made a play for a hapless PA assistant or maybe one of the infamously faceless challenge testers?

Either way it kind of feels like Elaine should have been let back in the game to maintain balance.

Meanwhile I've got a sinking feeling this season is going to go down the tubes with Smarmy Dean being crowned the winner. I can't think of a worse ending at this point.

Finally nothing disapoints me more on reality shows when people turn against their ride or die like Tommy is with Lauren... I loved me  a certain Asian beauty (no name so as not to spoil)a few seasons ago and was heartbroken when she turned into a betrayer of her chief alliy.

Edited December 12, 2019 by North of Eden

[ProfCrash]

https://ew.com/tv/2019/12/11/survivor-host-jeff-probst-dan-spilo-removed-episode-13/

Probst speaks.

kind of

not really

[jumper sage]

35 minutes ago, Lamima said:

I'm out! 

Don't pick up your toys and go home.  Stick it out with us, come on.

[enoughcats]

1 hour ago, Lady Calypso said:

It could be protecting the female crew member that he did it to. 

Or maybe the crew member wasn't female?  Did the blurb at the end specify the sex/gender of the crew member?

[Lady Calypso]

3 minutes ago, enoughcats said:

Or maybe the crew member wasn't female?  Did the blurb at the end specify the sex/gender of the crew member?

You make a fair point that I'm making an assumption....but since we've only seen Dan touch the women of the tribes through the edits, I'd think it leans toward the crew member being harassed as being a woman. 

[MostlyContent]

7 minutes ago, enoughcats said:

Or maybe the crew member wasn't female?  Did the blurb at the end specify the sex/gender of the crew member?

I think the title card read:

" Dan was removed from the game after a report of another incident, which happened off-camera and did not involve a player."

Edited December 12, 2019 by MostlyContent

[Alice Mudgarden]

Dan is such a creep.

[ProfCrash]

Just now, Lady Calypso said:

You make a fair point that I'm making an assumption....but since we've only seen Dan touch the women of the tribes through the edits, I'd think it leans toward the crew member being harassed as being a woman. 

We did not see Dan touch many of the men inappropriately. We did see him touching young women. The final placard mentioned the warning and another incident with a crew member. 

There is the very real possibility of civil law suits that prevent discussing what happened. The staffer could be suing Dan and/or the show. Or Dan could be suing.

no matter what, it is a crap situation that should never have gotten to this point.

[tvgoddess]

22 minutes ago, ProfCrash said:

https://ew.com/tv/2019/12/11/survivor-host-jeff-probst-dan-spilo-removed-episode-13/

Probst speaks.

kind of

not really

The comments on this are vile. A lot supporting Dan and blaming Kellee, calling out other women in past seasons, Elaine, etc. Just really gross all the way around.

[LadyChatts]

There's a lot of speculation that the show anticipated they might be having a problem with Dan, and that's why Jack made the jury.  I don't remember the last time a pre-merger made the jury, but it's been awhile.  So this way they won't be short on jurors.

Which, if that's true and really was their reasoning...that's even more messed up.  Dan should have been removed.  Everyone seemed confused until the show aired what went down.  They could have easily removed him and not given a reason, if Kellee was concerned about it blowing up her game (which if that happened, would make those people look even worse).  Survivor had a big chance this season, and even now, they are making it so much worse for themselves.  

[Alice Mudgarden]

The key word in that title card is "another".

If whatever happened was, say, a physical altercation with a cameraman, they wouldn't have worded their statement that way.

[Lady Calypso]

3 minutes ago, ProfCrash said:

We did not see Dan touch many of the men inappropriately. We did see him touching young women. The final placard mentioned the warning and another incident with a crew member. 

There is the very real possibility of civil law suits that prevent discussing what happened. The staffer could be suing Dan and/or the show. Or Dan could be suing.

no matter what, it is a crap situation that should never have gotten to this point.

Exactly. I have no doubt the incident was sexual, in nature. And I think it's a safe assumption that it was one of the female crew members, not one of the male crew members. 

The blurb makes it clear that it was another sexual harassment complaint. So I think it's natural to think that it was either a female producer, an assistant, or a camerawoman. 

[Lsk02]

1 hour ago, NYGirl said:

Maybe he didn't do anything pervy.  Maybe it was something else they couldn't talk about.

The blurb said “another incident.” If if were just something else, they would not have said “another.”  It could have said “a separate incident” or “an incident.”  But they set this whole thing up in the episode when Kellee was evicted and they used the blurbs to describe the verbal warning he received. 
 

This was absolutely another incident of sexual harassment. 

Edited December 12, 2019 by Lsk02

[enoughcats]

1 hour ago, nlkm9 said:

I take it this is the first time a player has been booted off ?

When infamous Russell Hantz's nephew played part of a season, he wasn't exactly booted off.  But (as I remember it) Jeff called the group together, put his arm (controllingly) around the nephew and announced he was leaving and Survivor was going to get him help. 

Not a boot off, but definitely a "You're leaving  NOW" moment.

This time it was with a steel toed boot, with younger Hantz, it was more a sideways soccer scoot over.

[ByaNose]

I guess the other contestants thought Dan was on a normal confessional and didn’t think anything of him being gone. It’s obviously the next morning or the day after. Now, how or what Dan did off camera is the question. There are other producers talking with the contestants and miking them up so who knows what he said or did that was the final straw. The title card just game more questions than answers of what happen. Damn show.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Holy shit!

[Babalu]

I’d be really interested to see the footage of talk around camp after Dan had been called away and before Jeff showed up. The remaining players must have had their suspicions about what was going on.

ETA: @ByaNose - I was typing at the same time you posted, and I didn’t think about a confessional, but in the interview, Jeff said that production talked to Dan for a long time, so maybe they weren’t suspicious at first, but I bet they were after a while.

Edited December 12, 2019 by Babalu

[Ms Blue Jay]

2 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

ETA: Oh wait, Dan is gone too!  Hot damn!  Something good did happen!  Given the fact that everyone was shocked by what went down the first time with Feely Dan, did no one really know until the season aired what happened?

I watched it just like you did.

Me:  Worst episode ever.

(5 minutes later)

Me:  DAN IS GONE ????????  😃😃😃😃😃 😃😃😃😃😃😃

(Placard about "something happened")

Me:   OH MY GOD 😲

My stomach went up and down throughout that whole thing.  The gamut of emotions.  Holy moly

Edited December 12, 2019 by Ms Blue Jay

[Tdoc72]

1 minute ago, Babalu said:

I’d be really interested to see the footage of talk around camp after Dan had been called away and before Jeff showed up. The remaining players must have had their suspicions about what was going on.

He could’ve been off doing a talking head interview. 

[CletusMusashi]

I love that Noura's big evil scheme of vengeance was to simply elevate Dean's shoes about six feet off the ground in plain sight. While ranting about it maniacally, of course.

Edited December 12, 2019 by CletusMusashi

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, CletusMusashi said:

I didn't want to see Noura go, because she's hilarious. But I was down with it, just because I like watching good game play. And Elaine was absolutely ruling that debate until she mentioned the dead mother. Yeah, no way was Lauren looking to compete with that. 

Meanwhile, in other news, Dan finally gets kicked out for being a serial groper, and all Tommy has to say about it is "But, that's inconvenient for me."

And Dean gets his mind blown by Rob and Sandra telling him that he needs to worry about what the jury think. Because apparently that's news to him. Dude, they're sitting right there! How did you not realize this?

Great post.  All points good.  I wish Elaine just sat there stoically, not that I think it would help.  Alas.  I really like her. 

[killer.noona]

I feel like something went wrong with my TiVo recording. It was only 33 minutes long and and apparently Dean went to IotI? It's so weird because nothing appears missing - no skips or black screen.

[SuburbanHangSuite]

My son is convinced that all of the slips in that Island of the Idols bag read "Dean."  Random draw his ass.  I'm not sure if they all read Dean but I definitely wouldn't put it past them to only have names in there who hadn't been before.  Maybe just Dean & Tommy...everyone else had been, right?

Sigh.  Freaking Dean getting that puzzle.  Why, Survivor Gods?!  And thanks, Tommy.  Now I can't do anything except watch how many times Dean runs his hand thru his hair.  

I love Elaine--I'm so sorry she's gone.  And as much as I love her, I can't stand Lauren.  She is insufferably extra.

I'm mortified for Dan's family.  Can you imagine?

Edited December 12, 2019 by SuburbanHangSuite
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[Tdoc72]

People mag says: 

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, Lady Calypso said:

There's a lot that we can speculate, but will likely never know. I assume it's not even just to protect Dan, because as we know, we've seen what he did to Kellee and the rumours will probably hurt him as much as the truth, if not more so. It could be protecting the female crew member that he did it to. 

Hey, I agree.  If it's to protect a victim, I'm all for the covering up the details. Why would we need any more?  HE'S A SICKO.  HE'S TOAST.  HE'S THE WORST!

We all know if they reveal the identity of the victim/survivor/whatever you want to call this person, people will start attacking her/questioning her story.  That's the truth.  I wouldn't want it out.

Edited December 12, 2019 by Ms Blue Jay

[Cotypubby]

2 minutes ago, Tdoc72 said:

People mag says: 

That’s so weird that if it happened after the immunity challenge they would stick it at the end of this episode instead of next week.

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, ProfCrash said:

Dude.

Maybe Production should have removed Dan earlier in the game.

1000 million percent 🙂  

[Tdoc72]

I was sad about Elaine leaving but I  literally (tm Rob Lowe) gasped out loud at the card saying Dan was removed. They should’ve brought Elaine back. 

I’m going to assume he’s not at Ponderosa with everyone. At least I hope not. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

It looks like production took the three strikes and you’re out approach with Dan. Unfortunately, he should have been out after the first strike. 

Yes seriously THIS ISN'T BASEBALL 

[tvgoddess]

Aside from the wrongness of Dan being kept around this long and having another female violated (I'll think this until it's proven otherwise), a couple of hilarious moments from this episode. I loved Rob mocking Dean stretching and flexing his muscles. And can I just say, I would love for him to cook for me. Whatever he was making looked so good.

I really wish Elaine wasn't voted out. Damn it, Show. I love her too, Sandra.

[Ms Blue Jay]

1 hour ago, dbell1 said:

And a second chance for Kellee who had her game blown up by a pervert and two shady women.

yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LizBug]

If the incident happened after the immunity challenge, why wasn’t he removed then?  Why did they go to tribal council and wait until the next day to remove him?

Edited December 12, 2019 by DallasGypsy

[Lady Calypso]

3 minutes ago, DallasGypsy said:

If the incident happened after the immunity challenge, why was there moved then?  Why did they go to tribal council and wait until the next day to remove him?

I've seen speculation that this incident actually happened after the F6 immunity and they decided to cut that, and everything before, so that they had more time for everything else in the finale.

That, or the victim in question took a while to step forward and then multiple discussions probably happened with the production team before they reached a decision after Tribal Council.

Edited December 12, 2019 by Lady Calypso

[mythoughtis]

5 minutes ago, Cotypubby said:

That’s so weird that if it happened after the immunity challenge they would stick it at the end of this episode instead of next week.

I’m going to presume that it happened after the immunity challenge shown this week.  If not, they would have to show scenes with him in it next week.
again- it should have been addressed  before the tribal council.  I wonder if Elaine was the ‘other contestant’ and she mentioned it during her exit speech and that’s what got the call rolling? 

[CletusMusashi]

On 12/11/2019 at 11:14 PM, DallasGypsy said:

If the incident happened after the immunity challenge, why was there moved then?  Why did they go to tribal council and wait until the next day to remove him?

Probably a lot of corporate lawyers figuring out how they should play it. Contrary to popular belief, not all contestants are created equal. If you throw a wealthy talent agent out of the game for something that is detrimental to his reputation, you can expect a lot more of a legal battle than if you threw out, say, a hotel doorman or coconut vendor or whatever, if they were to do the same exact thing. They did want him gone, I have no doubts. Jeff certainly wanted him gone, for getting pissy with him in TC and trying whatever that simultaneous intimidation/gaslighting schtick was. But they weren't sure the beancounters that actually run the show would approve of them getting rid of him. Until they were certain. Because keeping him had become an even bigger liability. 

Edited December 14, 2019 by CletusMusashi