Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[Bringonthedrama]

24 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Of course, because Cujo is his most bestest and favoritest sistah bestie now.

It was a weird scene (no mention of Carly, and neither AH nor LW were in this episode). I was expecting something like "I'm really happy for Aunt Laura, Lucky and Carly" or "I'm sure my mom would be thrilled!" and maybe a little tear in his eye but ... nothing. You would think he's only ever heard mention of Lulu Spencer. Lucas knew quite well that his mom loved niece Lulu.

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

It was a weird scene (no mention of Carly, and neither AH nor LW were in this episode). I was expecting something like "I'm really happy for Aunt Laura, Lucky and Carly" or "I'm sure my mom would be thrilled!" and maybe a little tear in his eye but ... nothing. You would think he's only ever heard mention of Lulu Spencer. Lucas knew quite well that his mom loved niece Lulu.

For me, considering how he went straight to Cujo when he showed back up in town, acting as if he and Cujo had this superclose relationship, which, no, they didn't, I'm not surprised by this at all.

[ciarra]

TJ: I found Molly's journal

Curtis: Let's burn it.

Me: Curtis, what are you, five?

[threebluestars]

I might enjoy the Kristina story if she goes off the deep end after Ava and ends up in Ferncliff.

[dubbel zout]

I don't like the misogyny of women being unable to handle their feelings—or other people unable to handle their feelings—so they're institutionalized, but if Sonny wants to send Kristina to the island for a decade or two, I can support that.

[TVbitch]

Lord have mercy, another coda to Lois' accent story that no one gave a flying fook about in the first place. Make it stop. Please have her take Gio and GO HOME. I hit the TV power button like my life depended on it as soon as I saw him cranked to excited puppy with a new chew toy mode once again in the previews. 

I'm all for Stella helping Brad be a better man and bringing the hammer down on Portia.

I hate Kristina so much right now that I'm all for them taking her full on Soprano and turning her into a villain. Why is she not in therapy?! Rick is right that Alexis' should have kept her away from Sonny, but, um, c'mon you handsome devil, she also should have kept you away from Molly! 

[Pingaponga]

Please tell me we are going to see the Maxie/Lulu reunion! I've been looking forward to that all week, and it still hasn't happened.

[absnow54]

12 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Lord have mercy, another coda to Lois' accent story that no one gave a flying fook about in the first place. Make it stop.

Based off the real life commercial for the deceptor that aired today, this bizarre subplot may be funding the show. 

[sas616]

On 12/4/2024 at 9:57 PM, Artsda said:

 

I was hoping that during the Molly/Kristina argument, Kristina would reach out to touch Molly's arm and Molly would quickly back away, loose her balance and fall over.  

[FilmTVGeek80]

2 hours ago, Artsda said:

While watching the lack of feeling from Molly compared to TJ and Kristina, I was thinking she wanted it just over and moving on like how does one lose a child and just ok with things to tie in a bow.  Then Kristina said what I was thinking, Kristina is right.  Molly wasn't biological parent she doesn't show any real grief. 

She got what she wanted and time to move on is not how losing your child works. 

We’ve seen Molly cry and grieve. Just because she’s willing to face reality and admit that what happened was a tragic accident, doesn’t mean she’s not grieving. Kristina is the one lying that Ava pushed her and wanting to wallow in her anger and bitterness.

2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Hard to be invested in Trina's anger and hurt toward Kai when she's the one who decided to walk away from an opportunity in Paris to mope and cry over Spencer. She wouldn't be desperate for a "redemption" with this so-called important professor if she hadn't had poor judgement in recent history. I could understand throwing away her future temporarily if it had been a parent or spouse who died - but acting like she didn't want to go on or ever return to Paris because a guy she's known maybe two years and fell in love with died tragically, just seems really weak to me. 

You make it sound like Trina was just getting over a bad break-up. The man she was in love with died. He didn’t just die but he died and in front of her saving her life. That’s not just something you get over in a weekend. 

[Artsda]

11 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

We’ve seen Molly cry and grieve. Just because she’s willing to face reality and admit that what happened was a tragic accident, doesn’t mean she’s not grieving.

Molly and TJ too have been detached from this baby from the start.  Whether writers meant to do it or not, they were never around. It was Blaze always with Kristina. Appointments Kristina was alone, going places alone, Molly and TJ only policing her food or attending a wedding choices, everything was Kristina alone and then she was to just hand them a baby. 

They showed no Molly connection to this child. So her being over it essentially and moving on is fine, but so is Kristina calling out the detachment Molly has. Which TJ is also calling out. 

[Cheyanne11]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Oh, god, we're back to Lois and her accent? I CANNOT.

I cannot with this storyline.  First, boohoo, Lois is hurt because her accent got criticized.  Now, boohoo, Lois is hurt because she wasn't 'being true to herself' and Brooklyn celebrating like her mom just told off the Harper Valley, PTA.  God save us.

Stella continues to be the best part of any scene she's in (or a tie for best when she's with Tracy).

Alexis continuing to not even muse that Kristina has some responsibility in what happened in that hotel room and saying Ava killed Iredella made me roll my eyes.  At this point, I want them all to go out a flimsy MC window.  

[dubbel zout]

2 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Alexis continuing to not even muse that Kristina has some responsibility in what happened in that hotel room and saying Ava killed Iredella made me roll my eyes. 

The whole thing is so stupid. Ava has done terrible things, but she's not going to deliberately injure a pregnant woman. She had her own experience with Nina. I wish Ric had brought that up so Ava could emphasize her horror at allegedly hurting Kristina.

[FilmTVGeek80]

8 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Molly and TJ too have been detached from this baby from the start.  Whether writers meant to do it or not, they were never around. It was Blaze always with Kristina. Appointments Kristina was alone, going places alone, Molly and TJ only policing her food or attending a wedding choices, everything was Kristina alone and then she was to just hand them a baby. 

They showed no Molly connection to this child. So her being over it essentially and moving on is fine, but so is Kristina calling out the detachment Molly has. Which TJ is also calling out. 

It’s kind of funny because, yes, back then I hated Molly (and TJ) and was on Kristina’s side, but she has been a bit on the insufferable side for awhile now. I was 100% on Molly’s side today. Plus, the writers dropped the ball on all counts when it came to the surrogacy storyline because we didn’t see ANY of them really bond with the baby. I think we saw Kristina at one doctor’s appointment. There weren’t many typical scenes of bonding with the baby - sonogram, showers, feeling the baby kick, etc. So, it might seem unearned but we have seen both TJ and Molly grieve in a number of scenes since the baby’s death. Molly didn’t just get over it. We’ve seen her struggling. And, I don’t consider it detachment because Molly can face that it was an accident and Kristina can’t. That’s not a mark against Molly IMO. What TJ and Kristina are criticizing her for is not grieving the way they want her to ie. matching their attitudes. They both blame Ava, so they want Molly to. Kristina wants Molly to be consumed with anger and vengeance and since she isn’t, in Kristina’s mind that equals detachment. 

[ciarra]

45 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Ava has done terrible things, but she's not going to deliberately injure a pregnant woman.

And one would think there would be better ways to do it than "throwing" her through a balsa-wood framed window.  And with premeditation.  It's not as if Ava planned for K to show up and harangue her.

[JMO]

Just a word on the grieving thing.  Molly needed to grieve largely in silence, and alone, although she did talk it out a bit with Dex (and was there someone else?) TJ needed to grieve it openly, with her.  Two inherently different methods, which resulted in Molly being able to do what she needed, while TJ was left unable to do what he needed.  One fares a little better, but they both lose, because their child has died. 

Probably not an uncommon situation between a couple, and maybe one of the contributors to so many marriages being lost to the death of a child. 

GRRR that we still haven't seen Lulu's reunions with Maxie and Tracy, and they didn't make it to the previews, either.

[Suicidy]

9 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

How Molly managed not to punch Kristina in the mouth is something

Kristina and TJ should get together and make each other miserable. Molly is not grieving to TJ's liking and Molly is not angry or vengeful because she really wasn't Adella's mother per Kristina. These two miserable individuals should be shot out of a cannon into a volcano. They should take Sonny with them. And Portia.

I enjoyed the Stella/Brad scenes. Stella is too pure for this show.

Brad is supposed to be such a ne’er do well.  Yet he was probably the most sympathetic and endearing character on today’s episode.  Plus every one of the characters that are the ‘heroes and heroines’ (at least according to the writer’s intentions, came off as spoiled, insufferable, entitled, self righteous assholes.

And Trina was possibly the melt unbearable of the lot.  Really hard to like her lately.

[driver18]

I think I told Kristina I hated her about a hundred times watching this episode. I know I laughed at her when the verdict came in. I hate KM's version of the character sooooo much. Volumes of notes. A whole plethora.

Portia got a few words from me too, but she was nothin' compared to Kristina. I mean, she ain't Carly, but she's dancing in that direction.

[Grinaldi]

(Before you ask, yes. And it kicked in around paragraph 2)

We're about to get Krazy Kristina and I think I might be down for that. I don't have an attachment to Lexi's version of the character. She's mainly been a name for me in occasional recaps on the barge. I came back after Dawn of Day when she occasionally mopped that bar set they never use anymore. While I dipped in and out over the years I missed most of her big stories. So this version of Kristina is what I know and while I agree she is aggravating, I think she is compellingly so. 

I hope we're in for something fun. If they have the balls to let a little bit of camp into it, the Don's cuckoo daughter could be a great story. And if Sonny were to be forced to confront the monster he created? 

Let her go Dark Phoenix on Ava (prediction: she misses and hits Rick) and face the same lack of justice Sonny got for Jagger. Now emboldened, she starts settling scores all over town, leading to Sonny to try to settle her with a job in his coffee business. Eventually this leads to a blow up and she decides it's time for her to step up as the Mafia Princess she now believes she was born to be: a Corinthos and a Cassadine.

Characters should grow and change. Sometimes you shorthand it with a recast. I always enjoyed what I saw of Lexi. But sweet fuckup was the vibe there. And that can only create so much story for an adult character. She's been rescued enough. (Plus, while he's a complex character, sweet fuckup is a good portion of what Lucky brings)

This show is fast becoming The Lulu Show with Friends for me. But Lulu is going to need an antagonist. And between Sam's death and the Dante connection, it wouldn't take much to spread Krazy Kristina's revenge spree her direction. And then build from there.

I want them to go full 80's miniseries with this. Have some fun. I think Manzi is a capable performer, particularly with a prickly character

Port Charles has been saving Kristina Corinthos for herself for decades. Now it's time for Port Charles to save itself from her.

[graight]

So Lucas was one of five doctors from GH who was picked to attend the conference.  So won't they have to shut down GH when the five of them go to Miami?

21 minutes ago, Grinaldi said:

Let her go Dark Phoenix on Ava (prediction: she misses and hits Rick) and face the same lack of justice Sonny got for Jagger. Now emboldened, she starts settling scores all over town, leading to Sonny to try to settle her with a job in his coffee business. Eventually this leads to a blow up and she decides it's time for her to step up as the Mafia Princess she now believes she was born to be: a Corinthos and a Cassadine.

Count me in on this idea.  Sounds fun!

[30 Helens]

11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I cannot with this storyline.  First, boohoo, Lois is hurt because her accent got criticized.  Now, boohoo, Lois is hurt because she wasn't 'being true to herself' and Brooklyn celebrating like her mom just told off the Harper Valley, PTA.  God save us.

It’s nice to see the ABC Afterschool Special is alive and well on GH. Now that we’ve all learned our lesson, maybe we can have some cookies and watch something, you know, fun?

[sacrebleu]

Like father, like daughter. 

Kristina tells Molly she was never the baby's mother because she doesn't grieve like Kristina, and doesn't take Kristina's side, as if people aren't allowed to grieve in their own way. 

And Sonny, the minute Ava mentions spending time with Avery ( now that she's no longer a murder suspect) Sonny tries to block access. If you're not Team Corinthos, you clearly can't be trusted with a kid. 

Now I want Ric to defend Ava in the custody case, and argue that accusing Ava in Irene's death was a Sonny/ Kristina plot to keep Ava from Avery. 

Let Kristina be the reason Sonny loses custody of Avery... That's what triggers her crazy. 

Edited December 7 by sacrebleu
Your and you're mean different things

[Desperado]

8 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

And if Sonny were to be forced to confront the monster he created? 

That would be very worthwhile. Would also love having Alexis added to the mix and have her feel guilt over her daughter turning into her grandfather, Mikkos.

[Bringonthedrama]

19 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

You make it sound like Trina was just getting over a bad break-up. The man she was in love with died. He didn’t just die but he died and in front of her saving her life. That’s not just something you get over in a weekend. 

I wouldn't expect her to get over it in a weekend. However, she received mail from the program in Paris saying they would keep a slot open for her in the next semester. Her reaction was nope, not interested, never going to Paris again. So, my feeling is you don't get to turn around and act like your art class project partner is ruining the redemption of your future in the art world because the timing of a presentation to a certain professor isn't working for both of you. I'm pretty sure in the art/academic world that passing up an opportunity to study in Paris is a much bigger deal than being deemed worthy by some professor at non-Ivy League Port Charles University. 

Trina is reminding me way too much of Portia.

[sashabear21]

Maybe Trina needs to take cousin TJ's masterclass entitled, "Grieve like me or you're doing it wrong".  

[tessaray]

11 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

I think Manzi is a capable performer, particularly with a prickly character

She's capable up to a point. They really need to move her away from the OTT grief though, because she can't cry to save her life.

I'm okay with her moving to the dark side. At least one of Sonny's kids should and Michael is too wishy-washy. Mainly, I'm not sure what else they can do with her. 

[Lugal]

On 12/6/2024 at 1:08 PM, YaddaYadda said:

How Molly managed not to punch Kristina in the mouth is something

On 12/6/2024 at 1:13 PM, dubbel zout said:

Oh, god, we're back to Lois and her accent? I CANNOT.

Since I'm on a Leverage kick, I think they should give Lois any one of these accents (but especially the last one!):

 

[Maelstrom]

On 12/6/2024 at 3:26 PM, sas616 said:

I was hoping that during the Molly/Kristina argument, Kristina would reach out to touch Molly's arm and Molly would quickly back away, loose her balance and fall over. and vault for the nearest window.

Fixed that for you 😉 (it was unfortunate for Show that those stupid scenes aired during the Olympics, because I can't see Kristina's "fall" as anything other than a medal-worthy gymnastics vault).

23 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

What TJ and Kristina are criticizing her for is not grieving the way they want her to ie. matching their attitudes.

So, this is the appropriate way to grieve in PC?

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

Mainly, I'm not sure what else they can do with her. 

Why not go the Poochie route a la Simpsons?

 

Edited December 7 by Maelstrom

[jsbt]

I think Mansi is capable but like so many talents on this show (including Jonathan Jackson and hopefully less so Alexa Havins next) is often wasted by the storytelling, scripts and pacing. For months when KM first came on she was near invisible or seemed like it, saddled to a boring background timewaster story with the surrogacy and a dayplayer for a love interest. I wasn't the only one wondering why she was hired to do nothing. Then I actually thought she came into her own very strong during the Patrick Mulcahey months in the spring and began actively carrying a meandering show where she was the heroine starting to square off in a reasonably intelligent and forthright way against Natalia, Joss and the manipulative Ava in Sonny's home, only to (once again) have her own illusions about her father crushed at the Chase wedding.

It was when PM had clearly left the building that the worm turned and she became just unbearable for me re: the baby, etc. and that's continued. If they want to move her into a more overt spoiled villain or schemer direction now that's fair, I believe Mansi can play it and I think she deserves better from the show. But you have to have enough viewers still willing to follow her there after what she's already done and how the show has seemingly coddled her as much as her mother and father, where it has clearly not seen her as the bad guy or someone to root against. That approach to how the show treats her has to change in order for the shift to work enough for the audience. I'm open to it, but I have little faith in this creative team. I don't blame Mansi, who I think is far more ready for primetime than Lexi. I would've been fine with Lexi staying but Kristina had been a C or D-character for years and that wasn't changing anytime soon. Could it have? Maybe. Could Lexi have handled it? Not sure. We're here now.

Edited December 7 by jsbt

[Winston Wolfe]

On 12/5/2024 at 10:27 PM, Suicidy said:

On 12/5/2024 at 10:24 PM, ciarra said:

What she should have left behind was those clothes. 

 

 

 

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I’m a guy, so I’m fine with the sweater.

Same here, LOL!  I sometimes forget there's another dude on these boards.

Although her character isn't popular, I have a major crush on Kate Mansi.  There's something about her facial features that's very soothing to me.

[FilmTVGeek80]

5 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I wouldn't expect her to get over it in a weekend. However, she received mail from the program in Paris saying they would keep a slot open for her in the next semester. Her reaction was nope, not interested, never going to Paris again. So, my feeling is you don't get to turn around and act like your art class project partner is ruining the redemption of your future in the art world because the timing of a presentation to a certain professor isn't working for both of you. I'm pretty sure in the art/academic world that passing up an opportunity to study in Paris is a much bigger deal than being deemed worthy by some professor at non-Ivy League Port Charles University. 

Trina is reminding me way too much of Portia.

Her grief was still fresh when she made that decision.  I don’t have an opinion on Trina’s behavior with Kai since I haven’t caught up with that particular storyline. I just take issue with characterizing her grief as insignificant and as a stupid reason for her to have done what she did. 

[Lugal]

1 hour ago, Maelstrom said:

Fixed that for you 😉 (it was unfortunate for Show that those stupid scenes aired during the Olympics, because I can't see Kristina's "fall" as anything other than a medal-worthy gymnastics vault).

I know it's bad, but I always see her "fall" more like this:

 

[Bringonthedrama]

9 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

And if Sonny were to be forced to confront the monster he created? 

The Show started to do that with Michael and then completely back off of it. Also, Sonny has said more than a few times that he didn't see Kristina very much when she was growing up because of Alexis. So if he thinks she's become a monster, he'll either blame Alexis as a mother or at best, say that he and Alexis both made some mistakes. But he'll never see Kristina as "the monster I created."

[statsgirl]

Someone make the Lois accent plot stop.  Has no one associated with the show heard of code switching? We immigrant children grew up doing it to fit in. Also, as bad as snobbery is, reverse snobbery is even worse. Coming from Bensonhurst doesn't make you better than another person.

I've had it with Kristina. Go to a therapist instead of seeking revenge and expecting everyone else to behave like you do. That said, I've also had it with people blaming Kristina for going to see Ava. Ava is not dangerous, not in terms of physical violence at least, and being pregnant does not mean that you have to avoid living lest you hurt the precious offspring.  Kristina quit working at her charity to please TJ, which was already ridiculous because pregnant women have been working till the moment of birth since forever.

Trina's story just feels like made up conflict. It would be a pretty crappy professor who docked her marks because he assignment partner, who the prof forced on her, couldn't do his part because he was being a football star.

On 12/1/2024 at 1:41 PM, dubbel zout said:

 Sometimes it's easier to help people you don't know, because they don't have more expectations of you outside of needing that particular assistance. It can be a lot less messy to swoop in, solve an immediate problem, and move on. 

This reminds me of a group therapy course I was in. The leader made cohesion by scapegoating and attacking one of the participants and she left crying. The next day this participant came back and said that a stranger had stopped her on the street to comfort her when the other members of the group attacked her. The other people said "But  you're a stranger to him. We know who you really are." (The leader was rightfully fired.

Yes, it's easier to help a stranger and swoop out on the wings of thanks rather than stay and do the hard stuff.

On 12/1/2024 at 4:39 PM, KerleyQ said:

The only reason a teenager would need to have to give a baby up for adoption would be "I am not remotely prepared for or interested in raising a baby."  I can see that being teen BLQ's mentality towards a pregnancy. 

But Lois would be more than willing to take on raising Brook Lynn's baby. If it's Gio, why put him with another woman as mother?.

On 12/6/2024 at 6:16 AM, sacrebleu said:

Co-sign, why is she always in mom jeans? 

Maybe because I am a mom, I like comfort. Soap opera women at home doing laundry wearing pencil skirts and stiletto heels (hello Guiding Light) makes me roll my eyes. Molly was packing and moving boxes, comfort should be the way to go.

Speaking of Molly and the "domestic partnership" lightning speed breakup, could TJ be any more selfish or arrogant? For a split second he pondered whether talking to Molly sooner would have helped, and then he decided no. He's decided that having a biological child is more important than Molly. Good riddance.

Hopefully this break up will lead to Molly/Isaiah because 1. they have chemistry and 2. Jordan deserves a smackdown for her propping of TJ's worst instincts.

Edited December 8 by statsgirl

[Winston Wolfe]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

Hopefully this break up will lead to Molly/Isaiah because 1. they have chemistry and 2. Jordan deserves a smackdown for her propping of TJ's worst instincts.

Me, I'm hoping Isaiah can do better than either of them. But there aren't many other age-appropriate options for him, sadly.

Yikes, other than Laura/Kevin there really aren't many "root-able" couples on GH these days. I'm guessing Dante/Lulu Part 2 is pretty much inevitable, and I can't see TIIC doing anything other than putting Lucky back together with Liz. Anybody game for a Ric/Ava re-boot? Sonny and Alexis will lose their minds. Molly won't be too thrilled either.

[30 Helens]

1 hour ago, Winston Wolfe said:

I'm guessing Dante/Lulu Part 2 is pretty much inevitable,

I’m expecting a Dante/ Lulu/ Cody triangle. That little roadside rescue was not for nothing.

[ulkis]

Alexa Havins is incredible as Lulu. I can't believe she wasn't thought of in 2013.

On 12/5/2024 at 4:28 AM, jsbt said:

Deeply annoyed the Gio thing appears to be legit - fInally they'd hired a cute young dude who isn’t needlessly related to everyone or giving attractive, viable younger adults under 50 more adult children that age them unnecessarily. Psych! Whether he turns out to be Dante or Cody's (something my pal posited, and I could see it) it is a huge mistake. I actually had thought Dante and BLQ was a solid screwball/straight man pairing at some point but thanks to this, no way. They're all gonna come off even more middle-aged. Chase looks practically young enough to be Gio's fraternal twin if you shave the beard.

Oh come on you know he is of Dante's loins. But I'm thinking Chase accidentally shoots (and kills him woo) so it's not that big of a deal. And hopefully they recast with Briana Lane. Brook, not Gio. Although I guess BL as Gio would be fine.

I can't say I care about Aiden but how they are making Lucky not give a crud about him is a weird choice.

Edited December 8 by ulkis

[ulkis]

On 12/3/2024 at 12:22 PM, DanaK said:

As I've said before, I liked Alexa as Babe on AMC and I liked her first couple of days on GH, and I continue to really like what she's doing as Lulu. Lulu comes across as feisty and adventurous and so like the spirit of her parents

AH said she hasn't watched the previous actresses as Lulu but Luke and Laura on YouTube and taking her performance from them. I am so impressed at that.

[ulkis]

I'm enjoying Kate Mansi as Kristina but hey cow, if you care so much about children maybe GO VISIT YOUR ORPHANED NEPHEW AND NIECE?

[ljr]

Can they send Trina back to Paris? She keeps talking about this school project. 
I have family from Bensonhurst and they didn’t have an accent. This Lois story is dumb

[jsbt]

8 hours ago, ulkis said:

Alexa Havins is incredible as Lulu. I can't believe she wasn't thought of in 2013.

She was probably already popping out one of like what, 3-4 kids at that point (and I believe had just done the unfortunate Torchwood S4 as one of her last major non-soap career moves) so I doubt she was even interested. As I said, it's just GH's insane luck she by her own admission in interviews all but came out of retirement for this.

15 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Trina's story just feels like made up conflict. 

Because that's all it is. A very basic and cliched soap C-story so they can plausibly claim the Black heroine still has story and airtime. They were deeply skittish of frontlining her with Spencer but couldn't get away from it entirely due to the fanbase and the optics, and now they don't have that problem.

Edited December 8 by jsbt

[dubbel zout]

15 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Trina's story just feels like made up conflict. It would be a pretty crappy professor who docked her marks because he assignment partner, who the prof forced on her, couldn't do his part because he was being a football star.

What's also stupid is that Trina expects Kai to understand how important that class is to her without giving him the same respect for his football. Even if she knows nothing about college sports, she has to have some inkling of what being QB1 means in a football powerhouse like PCU (heh). Like hypocritical mother, like hypocritical daughter.

8 hours ago, ulkis said:

I'm enjoying Kate Mansi as Kristina but hey cow, if you care so much about children maybe GO VISIT YOUR ORPHANED NEPHEW AND NIECE?

This is a fair point, but I also sort of get why she hasn't (or at least, we haven't heard that she has). Kristina is a complete emotional mess, and it's probably better for Danny and Scout not to be exposed that. If I were Dante, I'm not sure I'd want Kristina around the kids for the time being.

[tessaray]

9 hours ago, ulkis said:

Alexa Havins is incredible as Lulu. I can't believe she wasn't thought of in 2013.

She seems to have spent most of the 20-teens doing once a year primetime guest spots. And having kids, as jsbt mentioned.

I'm just relieved that she's slotted in to the show so easily. The last few years the Spencers have dwindled to almost nothing. 

Edited December 8 by tessaray

[tessaray]

16 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Speaking of Molly and the "domestic partnership" lightning speed breakup, could TJ be any more selfish or arrogant? For a split second he pondered whether talking to Molly sooner would have helped, and then he decided no. He's decided that having a biological child is more important than Molly. Good riddance.

At least it's a clear split. And good on Molly for not dragging it out. 

Sure, Molly might change her mind in the future but right now she doesn't want kids. I'm glad the writers let an adult woman just say that, for once. 

[ulkis]

On 12/3/2024 at 11:26 AM, Asp Burger said:

I don't know if it's a choice he's arrived at after thought and discussion or it's just his comfort zone now, but IMO, it usually works for the character and his stories. 

Ye-ees but there's stoic and then there's bored. Although I think he's had a few great moments like when he got emotional when Lulu told him he did a great job with Rocco. I think it's okay to be ott once in a while. Maybe he can have a melt down when it's revealed Doofus is his kid.

Although @Asp Burger did you block from your brain when he was humping the wall when Stavros' evil minion injected Lulu with some sort of drug? That was classic ott soap acting and it took me about 2 days to unclench my muscles from the second hand embarrassment lol.

On 12/2/2024 at 6:18 PM, jsbt said:

The woman Dante was going to marry just died, and now his long-lost wife is back. I don't fault his muted reaction. He's processing.

Meh he was engaged for her for 5 hours and he only asked once she conveniently donated her organ lol.

No but seriously, his grief over his long-term partner would have been enough, I thought that was a cheap move. 

[ulkis]

On 11/29/2024 at 5:31 PM, Melgaypet said:

I wish this show would stop trying to make Sasha happen. Her string of tragedies didn't make me care, near-incest didn't make me care, knocking her up with Michael's spawn sure as hell isn't going to make me care. At this point, it's just awkward and embarrassing.

It's funny, I didn't hate the Holly/Robert daughter ret con, maybe because she seems like she can be their daughter, but now she can piss off because she is pregnant with Michael's kid. 3 kids for Michael this quick, that is insane. I know they won't kill this one off, so take creepy Wiley or Amelia, I'm not picky.

[Mirabelle]

Willow can always run off with Amelia (and I guess Wiley) and go into hiding with the help of Nina's bank account. 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

The last few years the Spencers have dwindled to almost nothing. 

What do you mean, "almost nothing"? Carly is a Spencer. Isn't that all the family needs? /s

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

Sure, Molly might change her mind in the future but right now she doesn't want kids. I'm glad the writers let an adult woman just say that, for once. 

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone (except TJ, because he's a selfish clod) that right now, Molly doesn't want children. She's lost two of them in about a year. Annoyingly, though, she probably will change her mind, since on GH a woman is worthless if she doesn't have children.

Edited December 8 by dubbel zout

[ulkis]

On 11/19/2024 at 3:39 PM, statsgirl said:

 Not a character who died because Frank was petty about the actress.

Rumor is this came from above him which I believe. The only two vets that that have been cut/killed under FV are AJ and Duke, and they were re-hired by him in the first place. Cutting Kelly and then killing Sam almost as dead as can be on a soap doesn't fit his m.o., imo.

[Katy M]

1. I feel bad for Molly.  Everyone is trying to make her feel like crap for not being filled with hatred, wanting to move on, and possibly knowing that Ava going to prison wasn't going to bring the baby back.

2. I've never watched a home shopping channel. Is there ever any drama on it?  And why would the drama suddenly make people buy a product?

3. Why did  Trina say that Mr. Football player took that art history class to challenge himself?  I thought he took it because his whatever told him it would be an easy A.  And, we've all been part of school group projects where one person literally did all the work.  She will be fine without him.  Yeah, I get being annoyed, but as a junior art history major, if she's in a class with a freshman not art major, she's either in a class below her level, or he's in a class above his.  If the former, she should have no trouble completing the project by herself.  If the latter, he wouldn't have been much help anyway.  And his compromise of recording their presentation wasn't terrible.

 

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

3 kids for Michael this quick, that is insane. I know they won't kill this one off, so take creepy Wiley or Amelia, I'm not picky.

Apparently just growing up in a house with Sonny was enough to let him inherit the supersperm.