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Did anyone else notice that the compound they were in front of when Mariner made her big speech was quite similar to the bunker Return of the Jedi? Not Trek, but still.

Yes, actually. Finn and Elizabeth & Sam and Dante had a very brief period, around the time when Jason "died," where they hung out for a few eps and it was great. Sam and Elizabeth put Jason in the past, Dante and Finn got a teeny bit drunk, they had all played softball earlier. Sam got more drunk later. There was great chemistry among the four of them. Their scenes were pretty universally praised. So, of course, we never saw the group interact again. Of course.

I think he's the detective we saw a few times last year, Bennett, who was hot, that we wanted to see more of.

Yup, it used to be that regularly. And there were a few sites that recapped it for us in the US. It was nice getting that daily sneak peek.

Grrrr, just read a recap. No, Carly was not late an hour. She wasn't planning on showing up. That's what she told Kristina, who told Sonny. That's why Sonny slept with Nina because by not coming that was telling Sonny they were over. Carly only showed up to tell him about Dante being in the hospital. Ugh, she's such a lying cow, and these writers are just as bad as the previous in retconning everything to paint Carly in the rosiest of views.

Oh, I agree 100% about Amanda and Josh. I don't see a lick of romantic/sexual chemistry, and furthermore, their characters don't make an ounce of sense together. I'm still yearning for BLQ and Valentine. Now, THAT was a pairing with longterm legs, and a pair of actors with chemistry to spare. Nice that someone else agrees re: Elizabeth and Finn. Re: Steven, he killed someone. A patient maybe. But like my very missed Matt who killed Lisa Niles under extenuating circumstances, he is still in jail while our mobsters and ACTUAL KILLER CRIMINALS walk around free and dandy.

I was really, truly hopeful about PM/EK -- especially Mulcahy because I adored his work in the past -- but I have stopped watching myself. I do think the pacing, dialogue is better, but the Carly adoration is just as bad, the Nina retconning/hate is just as bad. And, for me personally, the main reason I watch is for Finn/Elizabeth, Michael Easton and Rebecca Herbst. In the weeks when PM/EK unofficially took over, Finn/Elizabeth were featured once. Finn was on maybe two, three times. Since they officially took over, Finn/Elizabeth have been on one time. That's it. And Finn, again, was only on one, maybe two other days (which is why I'm kinda confused how he can be so hated when the guy is never on). RE: Elizabeth, I will say I did appreciate the little bit I got with her and her boys with Jason's return, but in retrospect, it was clearly part of Jason's story rather than about Elizabeth since she's once more barely on. OTOH, Carly is on constantly and her butt kissed so much it must be shiny red. Nina is on tons, but bitch-slapped so hard, her face must be shiny red. My least favorite couple, Brooklyn/Chase, are on so much, and another absolute dud pairing imo, Sasha/Cody, are on quite a bit too. And, I am sorry, but Lucy was right in that meeting. 100% right. And every time Maxie bitches about it, I wanna scream. (At least I read she is still bitching about it.) I get that Finn/Elizabeth aren't super popular (but, hey, when they've only had terrible storylines, absolutely horrific pacing, are barely on, it's rather hard for most viewers to get an accurate read on them*), but they do have their fans. Just like BL/Chase, Sasha/Cody, etc. But the writers refuse to throw us a bone. So, unless I see Elizabeth, Finn in that day's episode recap, I ain't watching. * Case in point: Chase/Brooklyn gained most of their fans during the Bailey story because it was a good story. They were written well during it, the pacing was well done, it was soapy, the love story part of it was well done. However, they began to lose viewers with the next story, the music career, the non-stop stupid lying, all of that idiocy because it was bad writing, the bad arcs, the horrible pacing. Same actors, same chemistry, the only difference was the bad story, bad pacing. Finn/Elizabeth started to gain fans during the initial story (Chase's poisoning), but that was just a warm-up and only lasted about a month and half, and then after that they were plagued with not just bad but HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE NO-GOOD story after HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE NO-GOOD story along with really bad pacing, like really, really bad pacing. It's not the actors. It's not the characters. It's the fact that the writers have YET to give these two a decent story with some good pacing! Anyhoo, back to the overall show and why I am not watching. Better pacing, better dialogue in the show overall is all fine and dandy, but when the storylines are a pile of steaming turd--oh, and they are!, no amount of polishing can make it watchable. Especially when you ain't giving me any of my preferred perfume (in this case, Finn and Elizabeth) to cover up the stink. Sorry, for the length, ya'll, but oh, this has been building for a while!

Didn't Beverly tell Margaret they/she couldn't tell anyone about the financial crisis, and that's why she hasn't told Susan. It had to be dragged out of her to tell her assistant, and Todd figured it out himself.

Exactly, Sarapa said Easton isn't one of the names he heard was rumored to be gone unlike what was being bandied about. If ME goes, so do I. The show is better written now, but Carly is still the greatest, Nina is the worst, Chase and Brooklyn are the most featured couple, and Elizabeth and Finn are still barely on. They have been on once since PM/EK officially started, twice since it was unofficial. I've been a cheerleader for the new regime, but JJ brought me back, and ME kept me. Without one of those two, I'm outta here.

It's been denied by Sarapa and others who are more in the know, thank goodness!!!! I love ME.

I'm guessing you don't pay much attention to their scenes because Finn regularly "allows" Elizabeth to have a POV. When they first starting sharing scenes, it was her POV that he generally took advice from and was inspired by. During the whole ridiculous story about her parents that stupidly brought his dead wife into it, Finn literally had three scenes that were about his POV on the whole his wife cheating on him, Elizabeth playing any part in. Every other scene of his revolved around Elizabeth's feelings, Elizabeth's point of view. When they were working their way back to each other, his main concern was two-fold, how it would effect Violet, and how Elizabeth felt. During the off and on poorly paced lawsuit, Finn relied on Elizabeth's advice and support to see him through. Finally, just a few weeks ago after he found Jake with the vape pen and they had a discussion, afterward, he asked Elizabeth if he had overstepped. They talked about it, and then their other kids. In fact, Elizabeth has discussed her feelings, concerns, etc with her kids often with Finn. And he has discussed his about Violet, his father, and Chase with her. IOW, Finn and Eliazabeth have had, from the beginning, an open line of communication where they both each have points of view. Where they both tell each other what they think and what they feel. On occasion, both have missed the mark, but they have course-corrected, discussed it, and come back stronger. @CeChase Oh, I'm so sorry, you never got to see the absolute awesome that was Sarah Joy Brown as Carly. She was my favorite character then. You should watch her on YouTube.

I thought the last bit of the Drew/Nina scene was telling, him asking her to send him the article on healing. Also, overall, I'm not going to judge the character's actions too harshly based on how they acted in the past. Several previous HWs did horrendous heaps of disservice to many a character. PM/EK, I think, are trying, and as quickly as possible, to get as many of these characters back on track as reasonably as possible. Therefore, they will still do some frustrating things because moving too fast away from the recent behavior would be out of character. However, imo, the HWs are clearly moving them in the right direction. So, yeah, I'm just not gonna call the character's out for the awful way the former writers wrote them since PM/EK are actively steering them away from that behavior.

I would like GH to make sense and for characters to be in character. We have been shown for decades that there are only three people that Jason would protect above all others, Michael, Carly, and Sonny, in that order. Ergo, he had to be protecting one of those three. We were told it was about RICO violations. Regardless of all the stupid shit Michael has done, he hasn't done enough--the solitary campaign donation years ago just isn't enough--to lay RICO charges on. Therefore, it had to be Carly or Sonny to make sense. In yesterday's show, Jason specifically said this had nothing to do with Sonny...which left Carly as the only person Jason could have been protecting IF the writers wanted to (a) keep Jason in character, and (b) what they've lain out so far to make sense. I prefer both a and b to happen because that is from where overall better storytelling comes.

I don't think ppl have to worry about Jason and Carly. I could be wrong, but that is the vibe I'm getting, especially with how unpopular Carly/Jason were the last run.