Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[Blackie]

3 minutes ago, lala2 said:

And why would the contact for her mother's grave site be Jason?!?

I can't remember when Carly's 'mom' died but I am thinking that Jason probably paid for the site and tombstone so maybe that is why he is listed,

[statsgirl]

I don't like that they killed Brando, I don't like this long drawn-out death of a healthy young man, and I especially don't like this misery porn that they're putting Sasha through.

They're really layering on the poor Carly who IMO is someone who deserves some of the misery they're piling on Sasha. . She lost the estate on the lake with Jax but she got a whole compound with Sonny and she's keeping it like she's still got the kids (she was the one who decided to end her marriage to Sonny) and money in all those shares of Aurora.   When she said that "I couldn't wait to get away .... and get to Port Charles and claim the life I knew was mine" all I could think was "you mean like Nelle?"

Carly, cemeteries get moved all the time. If you're so concerned, do something about First Nations burial sites.This is such a Karen storyline for Carly.

Alexis and Gregory were decently interesting.

Portia, looking at Brando's chart is not an emergency that you need to interrupt Finn for. Brando is dead. Finn is good but he's not going to be able to bring Brando back. Let him finish his discussion.

[Daisy]

Also. we have to be stuck with Baby Jason AND Bearded Wonder instead. whatever show

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

When she said that "I couldn't wait to get away .... and get to Port Charles and claim the life I knew was mine" all I could think was "you mean like Nelle?"

but Nelle is the EVUL and Carly is Pure True Heart so...

[lala2]

20 minutes ago, Blackie said:

I can't remember when Carly's 'mom' died but I am thinking that Jason probably paid for the site and tombstone so maybe that is why he is listed,

But after so many years, wouldn't she have put herself as a second contact?

This story is lame!!! Carly never talks about her adoptive mom. EVER!  And now she supposedly wants to visit her grave?!? Yeah  . . . right! 🙄

It's like the show finds reasons to write stories for her while other characters get NO development! It's beyond frustrating! Like watching Liz's story drag out another beat while we're on beat 50 of Carly's new story! This show sucks!! 

Edited September 20, 2022 by lala2

[MarciNJ]

18 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Why did they kill of Brando?

I don't know, but it should make Sasha's conservatorship interesting.  I wonder who will be in charge? Glady$?

[Cobalt Stargazer]

3 hours ago, mariah23 said:

Is it wrong of me to hope that Sasha is pregnant again?  Just to give that poor girl something good in her life.

Not entirely, since this is kind of me too. Yeah, the show needs more babies like I need a new hole in my head, but FFS, stop stomping on the poor girl already.

[DanaK]

4 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

I don't know, but it should make Sasha's conservatorship interesting.  I wonder who will be in charge? Glady$?

Definitely interesting. Will Gladys take over or will Sonny? Does Sasha have a choice in the matter? Can it easily be moved to someone else? Can there be an emergency hearing to slide it to someone or is Sasha currently in limbo with no one being the conservator person since her husband is now dead?

Sasha is definitely the current Perils of Pauline person in the cast

Edited September 20, 2022 by DanaK

[Melgaypet]

Virginia Benson died when Michael was a baby. In fact, right after Carly told Bobbie that she was her believed-dead daughter. Carly was trying to convince an angry and disbelieving Bobbie, when Virginia entered and greeted "Caroline." That's what convinced Bobbie, in fact, she had met Virginia and knew she had adopted her child. Then Tony, who was also present, decided to tell Virginia everything Carly had been up to in Port Charles, including having a baby, about which she knew nothing. Virginia, shocked and heartbroken, immediately collapsed with a heart attack or a stroke or somesuch and died soon after.

[statsgirl]

30 minutes ago, Daisy said:

(Dear Mad Hooker. can you make a stop in Jacksonville?).. Carly... Carly goes to Reese's mother. "you are so entitled you believe you can do whatever you want." 

Everything she says is a projection.

2 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

Then Tony, who was also present, decided to tell Virginia everything Carly had been up to in Port Charles, including having a baby, about which she knew nothing. Virginia, shocked and heartbroken, immediately collapsed with a heart attack or a stroke or somesuch and died soon after.

So Carly killed Virginia? And according today she hasn't visited her gravesite in years. But now it's the most important thing in the world, more important than getting back to her young children, that she save the graveyeard? If you care so much about Virginia, move her to Port Charles where she can be with Morgan and everyone else.

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

So Carly killed Virginia? And according today she hasn't visited her gravesite in years. But now it's the most important thing in the world, more important than getting back to her young children, that she save the graveyeard? If you care so much about Virginia, move her to Port Charles where she can be with Morgan and everyone else.

right??  like you are making this big "omg this is wrong." but they do move cemetery all the time (to be fair i don't think to access the beach) but then i'd wonder why the heck is a cemetery next to the beach ANYWAY. my first reaction would be "thank goodness i was here so i knew about it and now i can move mom to PC and visit her more often."

not our Carly. Carly decides that she is going to like screw everyone over because she's upset and 10x10 she'll never visit Virigina again.

[Melgaypet]

5 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

So Carly killed Virginia?

Pretty much.

[PatsyandEddie]

@lala2

I wondered if the killer put poison on the hook. Ava was stabbed, albeit more in the abdomen than chest area, but she survived. Maybe the killer wanted to make sure the second time? Or hated Brando more? 

[Cheyanne11]

49 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Carly, cemeteries get moved all the time. If you're so concerned, do something about First Nations burial sites.This is such a Karen storyline for Carly.

Very "I want to speak to the manager" which, lbr, is perfect for Carly.  Too bad the show doesn't realize SHE'S the entitled asshole in this entire thing.

[dubbel zout]

Didn't Carly hate Virgina for having the nerve to be poor? Or did they resolve things before she died?

49 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I especially don't like this misery porn that they're putting Sasha through.

Same. They keep piling it on, and it's no fun to watch. It also gets to the point where it has no more impact: "Oh, something else goes tragically wrong for Sasha? What else is new?" I don't think that's what the show is going for.

49 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Portia, looking at Brando's chart is not an emergency that you need to interrupt Finn for. Brando is dead. Finn is good but he's not going to be able to bring Brando back. Let him finish his discussion.

That whole bit had a desperate, CYA feeling to it, and again, I don't think that's what the show is going for.

1 minute ago, Cheyanne11 said:

51 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Carly, cemeteries get moved all the time. If you're so concerned, do something about First Nations burial sites.This is such a Karen storyline for Carly.

Very "I want to speak to the manager" which, lbr, is perfect for Carly.  Too bad the show doesn't realize SHE'S the entitled asshole in this entire thing.

She sure is. Anyway, who cares? Virginia sure doesn't. She's dead. And why is Carly's past being revisited? Historically she has wanted to leave it there, in the past. UGH.

[perkie1968]

6 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

nd why is Carly's past being revisited? Historically she has wanted to leave it there, in the past. UGH.

Am I the only one who thought it was weird that she went right from the cemetary set to the bar set, like she was walking from one to the other and all of this is not happening for real.  Like she's dreaming this?  

[mostlylurking]

On 9/18/2022 at 4:13 PM, YaddaYadda said:

Why must it be a secret, though? This is what I don't get.

I’m not getting that either.  It’s so manufactured.  Like everyone knows Aunt Stella went a little cray there for a second but she actually was going to mail the papers and then she had a flipping stroke so I don’t think anyone is going to blame her too much.  Plus like others have said….there’s no expiration date on getting a divorce!

I feel really badly for Gladys.  She’s made a lot of mistakes, but losing a child is just the absolute worst.  I really don’t know how much more they are planning to throw at Sasha either.

[Blackie]

9 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Am I the only one who thought it was weird that she went right from the cemetary set to the bar set,

They almost did that wibble/wobble music thing it was so ridiculous hahaha.

And so was that random old man at the hospital talking to Sonny supposed to be Ghost Mike's fill in now that Max G is dead. Is he dead? I thought he was for some reason but google says no. So now I really don't get the old man at the hospital. 

And are they going to say that Portia made a mistake? I didn't see when Brando got hooked so not sure if she was so worried about Curtis and his "divorce" that she wasn't paying attention to her patient.

[Daisy]

7 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

I don’t think anyone is going to blame her too much

it's Curtis. he will.

2 minutes ago, Blackie said:

Max G is dead

he is? so sad

[Gam2]

I wouldn’t have recognized Linda Purl at all if someone hadn’t said it was her. That accent is so very awful. Someone on the show should have just said “Okay, let’s forget that nonsense.”

[Blackie]

1 minute ago, Daisy said:

he is? so sad

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no I thought he was, but when I googled it to confirm it didn't say he was, so I don't want to start any rumours lol!!

[Desperado]

I’ll pass on watching today’s show because the Brando death pisses me off even if I wasn’t super enthused about the character. Putting him together with Sasha brought him down and I have absolutely no interest in watching her nightmare. He could’ve figured out the Michael scheme and become another son to Sonny, or something. 

if it weren’t for this community here, I would take a very long break from the show.

[mariah23]

13 minutes ago, Daisy said:

it's Curtis. he will.

he is? so sad

He’s not 

[statsgirl]

38 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Didn't Carly hate Virgina for having the nerve to be poor? Or did they resolve things before she died?

Like Nelle hated Carly for leaving her with Benson? So many parallels and they got dropped for Carly = good; Nelle = bad.

46 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

That whole bit had a desperate, CYA feeling to it, and again, I don't think that's what the show is going for.

It's like she had never lost a patient and thought that she was going to be fired for it.

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

right??  like you are making this big "omg this is wrong." but they do move cemetery all the time (to be fair i don't think to access the beach) but then i'd wonder why the heck is a cemetery next to the beach ANYWAY. my first reaction would be "thank goodness i was here so i knew about it and now i can move mom to PC and visit her more often."

I guess they are not afraid of flooding. Ironically in Florida many graves are above ground because of the high water table.

I wonder if this story is supposed to mirror the urban planning of the last century designed to keep minorities out, except in a rich vs poor way since Carly is white.

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When the urban planner Robert Moses began building projects in New York during the 1920s, he bulldozed Black and Latino homes to make way for parks, and built highways through the middle of minority neighborhoods. According to one biography, Moses even made sure bridges on the parkways connecting New York City to beaches in Long Island were low enough to keep city buses — which would likely be carrying poor minorities — from passing underneath.

[tessaray]

3 hours ago, statsgirl said:

That's interesting about an infectious disease specialist seeing your husband. 

Replying in Small Talk.

[DanaK]

I’m actually a bit aggravated they killed off Brando. One, because it’s a further pile on for Sasha and two because he was a nice enough guy and who, so far, resisted being part of Sonny’s mob business

[KittyQ]

Disclaimer: I haven't watched the whole show yet. This is just a comment on Carly's travel travails.

I've had flight delays and cancellations many times, and sometimes even in the state I lived in for years, and I've never felt the need to leave the airport any further than a local restaurant/bar, or possibly a hotel if the delay is going to be longer than about 6 hours. Go down memory lane? Not so much. The idea is to be accessible when the flight gets rescheduled, because they aren't going to hang around waiting for you to show up.

[TVbitch]

Brando's BP was crashing and Portia gave him a syringe of lorazepam?! WTF?! I know he's seizing, but benzos would further tank his BP.  There was no need to kill Brando, and honestly, I do not want to see Sasha's cry face for months on end. For me, I don't care enough about her and she is not a good enough actress to carry a major mourning/eventually moving on storyline. 

Curtis is a tool, but Jordan need to shit or get off the pot with her hardly subtle insinuations that Curtis doesn't know Portia as well as he thinks. 

Edited September 21, 2022 by TVbitch

[perkie1968]

2 hours ago, Blackie said:

And so was that random old man at the hospital talking to Sonny supposed to be Ghost Mike's fill in now that Max G is dead. Is he dead?

When I saw the look a like, my first thought was, 'oh no, Max Gail died?" Then I had to google and was so thankful that he isn't.  I'm curious if they asked him to do the spot and he said no!

2 hours ago, Blackie said:

And are they going to say that Portia made a mistake?

No, I;m thinking that either the hook was dipped in poison or somehow the hook-er got into the hospital and did something to Brando when no one was paying attentin.  

[perkie1968]

49 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Go down memory lane? Not so much. The idea is to be accessible when the flight gets rescheduled, because they aren't going to hang around waiting for you to show up.

Which is why I'm thinking this whole Florida nonsense isn't actually happening.  We see the plane have turbulence than Carly's on the ground in her hometown.  What are the odds?  So I'm thinking either the plane went down or in her fear/hysteria that it's going down, she's revisiting her past.  

Anyone else notice in the flashbacks of early Brando/Sasha, his hair was seriously awful?!!  

Liz is thinking her dad pushed the woman down the stairs, but it never occurs to her, that maybe SHE pushed the woman down the stairs??

[Blackie]

31 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Anyone else notice in the flashbacks of early Brando/Sasha, his hair was seriously awful?!!  

YES!!!!! I thought WOW he really improved!!!

[KittyQ]

More questions from today:

Portia and TJ are confused about why Brando died, and Portia even says they may never know what happened. Wouldn't an autopsy be appropriate? Won't the hospital have a formal review of the case, especially since there is no obvious cause for the sudden death?

Maybe I missed something because I didn't pay close attention during Carly's talk with her former friend's mother, but why would Carly tell her that no one is going to move the cemetery? Also, as a non-resident, why does Carly think she has any power to do something? 

[racked]

3 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I’m not getting that either.  It’s so manufactured.  Like everyone knows Aunt Stella went a little cray there for a second but she actually was going to mail the papers and then she had a flipping stroke so I don’t think anyone is going to blame her too much.  Plus like others have said….there’s no expiration date on getting a divorce!

Maybe they’ll blame Cam, since he accidentally threw them away. Then Joss can have her excuse to dump him. 

[perkie1968]

Article about why Chad Duel was out multiple times and replaced.  

https://www.soapsindepth.com/posts/general-hospital/chad-duell-opens-up-about-the-medical-scare-that-led-to-his-gh-recast

[sacrebleu]

There was a whole lot of WTF in today's show.

Carly suddenly cares about her adoptive mother, when she couldn't even be bothered to arrange for her burial? (Jasus did, that's why he was the contact)

Sonny runs into some random Mike look-alike who is holding a racing form he found in the garbage who tells Sonny he's needed elsewhere?

Brando dies of not-stab wounds? 

[Cheyanne11]

13 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Maybe I missed something because I didn't pay close attention during Carly's talk with her former friend's mother, but why would Carly tell her that no one is going to move the cemetery? Also, as a non-resident, why does Carly think she has any power to do something? 

The woman is part of some committee that first brought up moving the cemetery, hence now Carly  has decided she's her mortal enemy and she, after half the cemetery has already been moved, is going to stop this project from going forward.  I just...

I cannot believe THIS is the story the writers came up with for their matriarch.  LW's probably wishing she actually took some of that vacation time she must have amassed (not that she'd ever say anything negative, as a bigger cheerleader for the writers and show doesn't exist #GHBaby).

[DanaK]

One of the things I have liked about Brando and Sasha is how well Sonny acts around them in a positive way, especially trying to make sure Sasha is ok. It’s similar to how much better he is with Nina than he was before Nixon Falls

[blondiek237]

Question… what if they move your cemetery and you have no living relatives, what happens to you???

[ljr]

Why have sasha married and pregnant? They kill off her baby and her husband. It's disgusting.  .why kill off Gladys only child?  

I wonder if the sasha actress will leave the show.  

[Daisy]

21 minutes ago, ljr said:

Why have sasha married and pregnant? They kill off her baby and her husband. It's disgusting.  .why kill off Gladys only child?  

I wonder if the sasha actress will leave the show.  

Honestly, i feel they only made Sasha pregnant because the actress was pregnant.  And I'll be that person, like while I was sad that Brando died, and Sasha was sad I didn't care because again, she was high when they got married. (and the show keeps flip flopping on why Sasha gets high so whatever).  Usually we have a "whodunit" to cull the fat - which again, please aim your hook at

1: Link
2: Cody
3: Joss
4: Dex
5: Curtis
6: Jordan
7: Olivia

to continue that trimmy trim trim. (I would say Drew but even though Monica is a ghost at this point she doesn't deserve to lose another child AGAIN.).  I really hope this is just a  storyline so the Sasha actress leaves the show. 

[Artsda]

I don't care about anything Carly, since when does she care about Florida or anyone who lived there. 

I hate that they killed off Brando. He was a good character before he got saddled with Sasha. 

[methodwriter85]

The Gladys actress is actually pretty good but I can't imagine they'd keep her. What's the point? She was there to be the meddling mother for a son that doesn't exist anymore. It's kind of sad that we went from a wacky shenanigans where Brando is a stripper to try and raise money for his child to this.

The last thing they can possibly do to Sasha is have her face get destroyed in an accident. (For a bit.) She can walk around in a mask like Phantom of the Erica Kane until her face gets reconstructed. Or she can befall a terrible accident that leaves her disabled and she falls in love with her physical therapist. To rip off an 80's movie of the week, maybe she loses her lips and her ability to speak and her handsome plastic surgeon reconstructs her face using her labia? 

If they're really desperate to keep her on, Sasha can have a late in life realization that she's actually a lesbian and she and Kristina can be in lesbians with each other. (And only trotted out a few times a month.)

[KittyQ]

3 hours ago, blondiek237 said:

Question… what if they move your cemetery and you have no living relatives, what happens to you???

Interesting question. Maybe a Potter's Field? That seems a little cold, but from what I understand, if you die in a hospital with no one to claim you, they eventually bury or cremate you and commit your remains to this kind of general graveyard. 

[Auntie Velvet]

That sucks about Brando, and like others my top guess is poison on the hook. 

I actually am into the Jacksonville story, probably because LW is knocking it out of the park and was doing a bit of soul-searching before finding out about the cemetery's fate. Maybe this is Carly's "Nixon Falls." 

[KittyQ]

29 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

That sucks about Brando, and like others my top guess is poison on the hook. 

I actually am into the Jacksonville story, probably because LW is knocking it out of the park and was doing a bit of soul-searching before finding out about the cemetery's fate. Maybe this is Carly's "Nixon Falls." 

Poison on the hook seems like (no pun intended) overkill. I wonder if someone in the hospital dosed Brando with something, and I think that they're setting Liz up for this, with her memory lapses and all. Why Liz (or really anyone) would want to kill Brando, I don't know. When it was just Ava being attacked, I would have guessed Esme, because, really, why not? But this "Jack the Hooker" (courtesy Alexis and Finn's dad) plot is a little vague on motivation. At least the Ripper had a consistent type of victim he attacked. 

[superdeluxe]

10 hours ago, lala2 said:

But after so many years, wouldn't she have put herself as a second contact?

This story is lame!!! Carly never talks about her adoptive mom. EVER!  And now she supposedly wants to visit her grave?!? Yeah  . . . right! 🙄

It's like the show finds reasons to write stories for her while other characters get NO development! It's beyond frustrating! Like watching Liz's story drag out another beat while we're on beat 50 of Carly's new story! This show sucks!! 

We still don’t know much about Austin.  He’s a doctor.  What’s his specialty?  Is he cool with the Quartermaines or can he still not stand them?  Is he even still a Quartermaine?  They dropped that so quick.  Where does he live?  Is he commuting from Pawtuck to Port Charles?  Is that a long drive?  We’ll never know anything about Austin since he only appears once a month.  But Carly can have story forever.  Ridiculous.

Blando is finally dead?  Good.  Guess I’ll be the only one celebrating that.  I don’t care.  He was so useless.  I’m not going to miss him.

[Winston Wolfe]

10 hours ago, Blackie said:

And so was that random old man at the hospital talking to Sonny supposed to be Ghost Mike's

And he asked if Sonny was a Priest.  Nope, not at all Ghost Mike Stand in. But a lot of folks can call Sonny "Father."

[lala2]

IMO, the show hasn’t known what to do with Sasha since she broke up with Michael. I happened to like her and Brando. I thought they were super cute together. They were a pretty inoffensive couple if you ask me.

With Brando dead, I can’t see them continuing to write for her. Who would she be with now? There is no one on canvas for her unless Cody is gonna be that guy with Britt leaving. I thought KT was doing both shows but who knows s? What’s the next story for her? Recovering from her addiction and moving on with her life? Why would she do any of that in PC? 

Sadly, I see Sasha ODing. And if that happens, I will never understand why they couldn’t have just let Brasha move and leave PC.

[YaddaYadda]

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

The woman is part of some committee that first brought up moving the cemetery, hence now Carly  has decided she's her mortal enemy and she, after half the cemetery has already been moved, is going to stop this project from going forward.  I just...

It's Carly. She's extraordinary. Deal with it.

I hate the writers so much. Is it mandated in LW's contract that Carly must always be like this? 

[CeChase]

15 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Disclaimer: I haven't watched the whole show yet. This is just a comment on Carly's travel travails.

I've had flight delays and cancellations many times, and sometimes even in the state I lived in for years, and I've never felt the need to leave the airport any further than a local restaurant/bar, or possibly a hotel if the delay is going to be longer than about 6 hours. Go down memory lane? Not so much. The idea is to be accessible when the flight gets rescheduled, because they aren't going to hang around waiting for you to show up.

I'm wondering if Carly is even conscious.  

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Liz is thinking her dad pushed the woman down the stairs, but it never occurs to her, that maybe SHE pushed the woman down the stairs??

That's probably the memory she can't access just yet.

13 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Article about why Chad Duel was out multiple times and replaced.  

It's been nice not to have Michael around, but I'm glad CD is better.

1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

It's Carly. She's extraordinary. Deal with it.

LOL. That really is the attitude the writers have taken with her.