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The timeline of this week's episodes is driving me nuts. It was late enough in the evening for Avery to go to bed, wake up from a nightmare and go catch fireflies, and then wake up AGAIN and go Nancy Drew-ing outside and find the lost half-heart necklace (hire this girl at the PCPD, y'all). Yet it couldn't have been too late since Alexis and Diane were eating salads at Kelly's yesterday like it was dinnertime. And Brando was at Turning Woods for a while and still had time for a full nine-inning baseball game with TJ and then hang out for drinks afterwards. We joked about how long it took Mike to bite it, but seriously, how long is this night?

I like Brando, and I'm willing to forgive the age difference between him, Molly, and TJ (though Molly most definitely needs to chill) as those are about the best options for friends he has right now. I'll take Brando + Molly/TJ over Brando + Sam/Carly any day of the week and twice on Sundays, please and thank you.

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I would guess he's early 30s? That age group is slim pickings as far as friends go—Lulu, Maxie, Peter? Michael, Willow, Sasha, Chase? Brando is better off with Molly and TJ, IMO, despite the nonsense.

The actor is 34.

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I was waiting for Ethan to offer a DNA sample to check out against that charred body when the WSB agent said that there would be an autopsy. I wonder if he's working for the bad guy too.

Brando's age & marital-appropriate group would be Willow/Chase/Michael/Sasha and maybe Kristina but I wouldn't with that mess on someone who seems to be a good guy.

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51 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

I have osteoporosis as does my sister. We both take medication and do weight bearing exercises. It’s not fatal, not dramatic and really causes no worry if you take care of yourself. GH, give some really serious disease to some man on this show and leave Alexis the hell alone.

Nor is Diabetes some death sentence. Like this show tried to imply it was with Bobbie.

37 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Seriously. The wide-eyed horror when she sees TJ and Brando being friendly, and extreme nervousness when she's in proximity to Brando is really over the top.🙄

So, Robert hears about a burned body that matches Holly's size and he is given Holly's "for show" wedding ring, and absolutely believes she's dead to the point he's apologizing to Ethan? It's not like this exact same set-up was used earlier this decade to convince Patrick, Mac, Robert and Anna that Robin was dead, or anything. Patrick was even given Robin's wedding ring.  And it's not like the exact same set-up was used previously on Robert's best friend Luke, to convince them all that teenage Lucky was dead and "even the WSB" said so.  Holly being locked in a room and screaming at a camera to let her out is an exact rip-off of the last scenes for JJ's Lucky before JJ left the show. 

Brando agreed with Sonny that he will continue to pose as "father of Dev," and Dev is supposed to be a high school senior (according to Cam recently, re: the teen quad). That makes Dev 17 to 18 years old.  So unless Brando became a dad when he was approx. 8 years old, how in the world are Molly and TJ his peer group? I thought the audience was supposed to understand he's a 40 something/close in age to Sam, Jason, and Carly?

Oh for $(^&(*%$u@)$_^&_(@$)*@&% sake! Really? REALLY???????

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Because this is happening on another soap with a death (Ciara on Days of our Lives), Holly's ring was awfully shiny and clean despite it being found on the charred remains of a dead woman buried in a shallow grave.

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1 hour ago, Gam2 said:

I have osteoporosis as does my sister. We both take medication and do weight bearing exercises. It’s not fatal, not dramatic and really causes no worry if you take care of yourself. GH, give some really serious disease to some man on this show and leave Alexis the hell alone.

Yeah I was thinking the same. I was diagnosed at about 50. Doctor put me on meds and I did okay for several years. Two years ago I did a Reclast infusion and actually regained bone density. I go for a DEXA every two years. I’m still very much alive and not in any danger of kicking it because of my osteoporosis. So GH can take several seats with this ominous music and OMG Alexis could have osteoporosis! How awful!’ Bullshit.

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2 hours ago, Gam2 said:

I have osteoporosis as does my sister. We both take medication and do weight bearing exercises. It’s not fatal, not dramatic and really causes no worry if you take care of yourself. GH, give some really serious disease to some man on this show and leave Alexis the hell alone.

The show is getting sponsorship money for pimping out the drug company.

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1 hour ago, Linny said:

I'll take Brando + Molly/TJ over Brando + Sam/Carly any day of the week and twice on Sundays, please and thank you.

A thousand times yes!! I couldn't agree more. I didn't mind the TJ/Molly/Brando scenes. I still like the idea of Molly/Brando. They have good chemistry, IMO. I don't dislike this TJ though. He and Molly are still cute. I just wish this had played out differently. They should have kept TJ abducted a bit longer - long enough for Brando and Molly to really start liking each other  (like a month in show time) and THEN have TJ return. He would know his mother treated Molly horribly, lied to her, and convinced her that he had dumped her so she had moved on, but Tolly would still have feelings for each other. Molly could be torn btw TJ and Brando. I don't know. I'd take that over this lame secret. I think Molly should just tell him. I've always thought that and would have loved if the show had gone for something original and had her tell him immediately. 

I really enjoy Nava. I sincerely hope Nikolas is not playing her. I like the chemistry btw them. I'm one who feels she's had chemistry w/all the guys who have played Nikolas, so I would love to see these two in a real relationship! Loved the looks btw them yesterday and today. 

ETA: It's so sad that Chase had to break down the obvious to that idiot, BLQ! You'd think she would have learned by now that tragedy does put things in perspective. She's 30+ years old! Chase is way too mature and good for this moron! And, what is up w/her saying she doesn't accept charity?!?! She's been asking for charity and for everyone to solve all her problems since she set foot back in PC! And now, she's taking up Chase on his offer to crash at his place! What about not accepting charity?!?! She is a massive hypocrite! 

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On 9/17/2020 at 8:42 PM, seasons said:

Poor Ava cant have one minute of happiness. (just like Alexis.) After Nicholas showed up and they had great sex, he bonds with little sorased Avery (who is finally not napping).

It's we who have SORASed in 2020, LOL.

I agree with those of you who are saying the introduction of the osteoporosis SL was a little overly ominous for what it turned out to be -- especially when the character is a cancer survivor.    

 

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15 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Yeah I was thinking the same. I was diagnosed at about 50. Doctor put me on meds and I did okay for several years. Two years ago I did a Reclast infusion and actually regained bone density. I go for a DEXA every two years. I’m still very much alive and not in any danger of kicking it because of my osteoporosis. So GH can take several seats with this ominous music and OMG Alexis could have osteoporosis! How awful!’ Bullshit.

I found it hard to believe that Alexis (who I suppose is 50ish) has to be told what a DEXA is.   My GYN started ordering a DEXA for me as soon as I hit 50.  Luckily my bone density has been good, so I only have to get them ever 3 yrs .     If a show wants to do a public service announcement, I wish the writers took the time to write it into the show so that it doesn't sound so staged and cluncky.  

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16 hours ago, nilyank said:

 Holly's ring was awfully shiny and clean despite it being found on the charred remains of a dead woman buried in a shallow grave.

I thought the same thing and 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😒😒😒 that Robert or Ethan didn’t ask to see the “body”. They only have what’shisface’s name a body was found.

The whole thing is just beyond stoopid. And makes Robert!Fucking!Scorpio! Look stoopid!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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16 hours ago, lala2 said:

I sincerely hope Nikolas is not playing [Ava].

This is a big reason I hate this story. The characters are all over the place with motivation. I can't even remember what the point of them getting married in the first place was. (Something to do with that dumb codicil that ended up being moot?) The writers need to figure out what they want this story to do and do it, because I'm really bored watching Nik and Ava snipe at each other and then have whatever sort of sex that was supposed to be. 

11 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

I agree with those of you who are saying the introduction of the osteoporosis SL was a little overly ominous for what it turned out to be -- especially when the character is a cancer survivor.   

I don't really mind the story as a PSA, but the way it's being written is as if Alexis's death is imminent if she doesn't do something immediately. I do mind a drug company sponsoring the story, though. I know the budget is in big trouble, but this feels really shady to me. It's way worse than Prego being the working woman's best friend.

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18 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I don't really mind the story as a PSA, but the way it's being written is as if Alexis's death is imminent if she doesn't do something immediately.

Remember that scene at the end of "Death Becomes Her?"  Yeah, that's how heavy-handed the writing already is for this story.

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48 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Remember that scene at the end of "Death Becomes Her?"  Yeah, that's how heavy-handed the writing already is for this story.

The slow-motion of Alexis dropping that coffee cup was a choice. I thought they were alluding to something life threatening, not osteoporosis. If it’s just a paid ad, they’ll drop it after a few episodes like they did with Anna’s blood disorder. Weird timing though given what else is going on with her character. They likely didn’t have a choice but it would have made more sense to do this before killing off her bf if they couldn’t do it with another character. 

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20 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

If this isn't a reason to hang out with Molly and TJ, I don't know what is.

I didn't say anything about those four being great peers. But it seems rather weird for Brando to go from being buddies with Carly and bonding over baby Donna, and appearing to become some sort of allies/friends with Sam and Jason,  to wanting to spend time with the police commissioner's son and Sonny's half-brother's daughter esp. considering they don't have his life experience. Although I can absolutely understand TJ wanting to hang out with Brando considering his only guy friend on the Show ever before this was Morgan. 

 The whole thing is just beyond stoopid. And makes Robert!Fucking!Scorpio! Look stoopid!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

This Show has some lazy writers, so both Anna and Robert have been made to look stupid, or like crappy people, for plot point purposes.  Examples include Robert's "eh, she had Mac and she turned out well" response to Anna saying they should have been there for Robin as she was growing up. Anna's "this means I'm old - the horror - I need to go drink at Luke's casino" reaction to finding out that Robin was pregnant with Emma when she knew how much having a baby meant to Robin.  Making no attempt to see Robin when Robin "dumped Patrick and Emma" and was "living happily in Paris." Anna and Robert together getting outsmarted so they were locked up together and couldn't figure out a way to escape so Robin was a prisoner of circumstances. All of Anna's behavior regarding Peter. Now the Show runners think Robert needs to be "convinced Holly is dead" so this is the lame way they do it despite the fact that Robert just went through this same scenario with his supposedly dead daughter in 2012 and they should know the history enough not to approve this from writers. 

This related to what has always bothered me about Robin: her unwillingness to acknowledge that her parents and their choices directly impacted how she handled things in her relationship with Patrick, and that she has severe abandonment issues. She told baby Emma "if you ever need a hero, he's your guy" and would refer to either or both of her parents as heroes. My response is always that Robin didn't need "heroes," she needed parents to raise her and be there for her no matter what. Anna has so barely been there for Robin in her adult life that she remarked (after her first/maybe only experience of hearing Robin speak at the Nurse's Ball) that hearing Robin speak with passion for the cause was moving. REALLY?!

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20 hours ago, Linny said:

or Avery to go to bed, wake up from a nightmare and go catch fireflies, and then wake up AGAIN and go Nancy Drew-ing outside and find the lost half-heart necklace

That whole thing made no sense.  When we saw Carly/Nelle there, they were arguing in the woods behind the cabin.  Then ran after each other and Nelle fell over the side of an embankment where Carly tried to pull her up and Nelle fell/jumped/whatever.  Nelle appeared to have fallen a faily long way down, since neither Carly or Jax could see her anymore.  That's where it looked like the necklace had fallen.  So we're supposed to beloeve teeny tiny Avery went down the side of the mountain in her wanderings where she found the necklace??  Did I miss something here.  

20 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

Joss. Who went for a run, showered, changed and went back to Turning Woods!?;?!

She was wearing the same clothes.  I took it that she left, went for a run in her regular clothes, then came back.  Weird.  

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

that Robert or Ethan didn’t ask to see the “body”

I'm hoping they were playing not Idris Alba and they're going to continue looking for her.  

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1 hour ago, perkie1968 said:

She was wearing the same clothes.  I took it that she left, went for a run in her regular clothes, then came back.  Weird.  

In the middle of the night.  I wonder if her bodyguard/driver Tony has to follow along in the Escalade as she pounds the pavement. 

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On 9/11/2020 at 10:49 AM, sacrebleu said:

I'm really not seeing what JaSam fans get out of that relationship. Jason gives Sam absolutely nothing. She agonizes about not being able to be with him, he's like, meh. She feels guilty for trading away her kids proxy @ ELQ to be with him, and he's like, meh.

Their relationship is an endless rinse/ repeat of Sam twisting herself in knots for him, and Jason being, meh.

Also, the blocking with the teens was weird-- Joss and Cam seemed to be ignoring any safe-distance rules but Dev did-- lurking in the background. I don't have any issues with the actor wanting to take any and all precautions-- but they need to get a little creative with the blocking or camera angles so that the social distancing is either less obvious or at least makes sense.

 

I almost thought Dev was superimposed - not sure what word to use.  Inserted?

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On 9/11/2020 at 9:49 AM, sacrebleu said:

I'm really not seeing what JaSam fans get out of that relationship. Jason gives Sam absolutely nothing. She agonizes about not being able to be with him, he's like, meh. She feels guilty for trading away her kids proxy @ ELQ to be with him, and he's like, meh.

Their relationship is an endless rinse/ repeat of Sam twisting herself in knots for him, and Jason being, meh.

I agree, especially when you compare the jasam scenes where Sam is feeling guilty and Jason basically shutting down the discussion to his conversation with Carly earlier this week. You can’t even argue that Jason isn’t supportive anymore because we see him do that in scenes with Josslyn, Sonny, Michael, and especially Carly all of the time. It’s just Sam where he can’t be bothered. 

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3 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Nelle appeared to have fallen a faily long way down, since neither Carly or Jax could see her anymore.  That's where it looked like the necklace had fallen.

No, Nelle lost the necklace before she fell. She was carrying it as she was running away from the cabin and dropped it then. There was a big closeup of the necklace under a log or something. That's how Avery stumbled across it.

1 hour ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

I almost thought Dev was superimposed - not sure what word to use.  Inserted?

Maybe he was greenscreened in. That seems like more money that Frank would want to spend, but these days, who knows?

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

She was carrying it as she was running away from the cabin and dropped it then. There was a big closeup of the necklace under a log or something.

Ok, thanks.  I remember seeing it beside a log as a police officer walked right by it.  I thought it was dropped at the bottom of the ravine, after she fell.  Having it dropped at the top makes more sense for Avery to find it (not that it made sense for avery to wander around in the dark, at night, so close to a ravine!!)

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2 minutes ago, ouinason said:

I just got a vision of Avery's future.  Much like her brother and step brother she will be cruising around town with a driver and a black card, menacing the unsuspecting population and being an asshole.  

Avery doesn't have any step-brothers. She has a step-sister in Joss.

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They have been teasing Robert and Olivia since what, 2013? They are winning together and I've always wanted it. The fact that she is now Lady Quartermaine would make an affair even soapier.

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The actor who plays Brando graduated from high school in 2004 and from college in 2009. (There's a lot of "local pride" stuff about him on the internet; he's from SC,) So there's that. I've been mentally putting Brando in his mid-thirties. I think what we're supposed to assume is that, in this false version of Dev's parentage the Corinthos clan is selling to the rest of Port Charles, Brando got a girl pregnant while still in his teens. So, older than TJ and Molly, younger than Sam and Jason, and enough in the middle that he can mix with either set.

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1 hour ago, jsbt said:

They have been teasing Robert and Olivia since what, 2013? They are winning together and I've always wanted it. The fact that she is now Lady Quartermaine would make an affair even soapier.

Olivia doesn't strike me as someone who cheats. She's salty with Lulu for dating after her divorce, FFS. I'm all for Olivia being taken down a peg on the morality ladder, but not like this. It doesn't work for me.

I think the actors have more sparkle together than the characters, if that makes any sense.

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3 hours ago, jsbt said:

They have been teasing Robert and Olivia since what, 2013? They are winning together and I've always wanted it. The fact that she is now Lady Quartermaine would make an affair even soapier.

I wouldn’t mind them doing Olivia/Robert for real but after they have Ned/Olivia split. They’ve been getting decent feedback and a happy Ned/Olivia only exist on the back burner. The show has never had much of an interest in their pairing. Tbh, I’ve never seen the appeal of those 2 together other than Olivia being a discount Lois. 

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I don't see Robert/Olivia matching at all. Despite them forcing this adventure storyline with Olivia tagging along for no reason, Olivia doesn't strike me as action/adventure girl. And as cute as Robert has been with Violet, I can't see Robert settling down and raising Leo. I can see why Ned and Olivia work and why they mesh well together, but I don't see what Robert and Olivia have in common.

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I will admit it was nice seeing Ned NOT being an ass on Thursday and Friday.

What’s more infuriating and 🙄🙄🙄😒😒😒about this Holly being burned beyond recognition is...oh wait. Carlivati changes Robin being dead to “dead” and we got to see she was very much alive, right? STILL. Stupid Frank is still here and he was around for that. And for Robert, Anna, everyone who has dealt with the now corrupt WSB (that whole retconning of what was supposed to be the “federal” fake/tv world intelligence as the GOOD GUYS continues to piss me off), should know better. And isn’t Frisco the director? The same Frisco that Robert recruited and trained and is supposed to be good friends with Robert as well as owing his CAREER to him???

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On 9/20/2020 at 11:08 AM, Asp Burger said:

The actor who plays Brando graduated from high school in 2004 and from college in 2009. (There's a lot of "local pride" stuff about him on the internet; he's from SC,) So there's that. I've been mentally putting Brando in his mid-thirties. I think what we're supposed to assume is that, in this false version of Dev's parentage the Corinthos clan is selling to the rest of Port Charles, Brando got a girl pregnant while still in his teens. So, older than TJ and Molly, younger than Sam and Jason, and enough in the middle that he can mix with either set.

If the actor's in his 30s, I guess it's believable that Brando became a father at about age 16. I personally have a cousin whose son was born when she was 15 (she was pretty good at hiding the pregnancy from all of us). 

On 9/20/2020 at 2:55 PM, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I don't see Robert/Olivia matching at all.

, but I don't see what Robert and Olivia have in common.

I totally agree. The only thing they have in common is they both have an adult child who's been injured because of Sonny shooting his gun, and are both grandparents. Robert rightly pointed out that Olivia's life experience is as a civilian in Bensonhurst and Port Charles. (She knows only the basics of his history as a spy, father and husband. She just thinks it's fun to play spy.)  Is their trip the first time she's been outside of New York? 

On 9/20/2020 at 3:03 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

And isn’t Frisco the director? The same Frisco that Robert recruited and trained and is supposed to be good friends with Robert as well as owing his CAREER to him???

Yup, Frisco is the director and he is really indebted to the Scorpio brothers because:

A) Robert got him into his WSB career.

B) Mac has been Maxie's father for 20 + years now, ever since Frisco permanently abandoned Felicia and Maxie to devote himself to the WSB. (I don't count Georgie because Frisco only participated in conceiving her). 

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10 hours ago, ouinason said:

I was talking about her cousin/stepbrother Spencer

Ah I forgot him. Partially because I don't consider Nik's marriage to Ava to be real as Hayden was still legally his wife when she disappeared.

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4 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Partially because I don't consider Nik's marriage to Ava to be real as Hayden was still legally his wife when she disappeared.

Isn't Nik still legally married to Hayden? She hasn't been declared dead, AFAIK, and I'm pretty sure there's no divorce. Ava should go after Nik for bigamy and see what happens.

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I think Hayden and Nik took care of that before his reappearance.  The legal stuff to do with bringing him back and stuff.  Otherwise Nik was still dead when he married Ava anyway, which also would be invalid.  

 

Nik wouldn't have been going through all of this if the marriage wasn't legally binding, he'd have just invalidated it and moved on with trying to get Liz into bed.

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I think the show forgot about Nik’s marriage to Hayden just like they forgot that the Cassadine empire had lost lots of money when Valentin shot Nikolas out of a window! That arc was no longer convenient to the current story so it was forgotten. It’s very similar to Franco suddenly being broke when he was rich enough to pay Kiki’s entire medical school bills AND fund the therapy program. Ok, Show! 

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"Thanks for looking out for her." Uh, Sonny, Ava is isn't some babysitter. She's Avery's mother. It's her job to look out for her. SMH.

I know no one wants to remind Joss of Oscar (!), but the same things everyone said to her about his death applies to Mike's.

Poor Brando. Of course he has to get sucked into Sonny's business. He should have returned to Chicago when he had the chance.

I like that Dev went to Brando for girl advice. It's a nice change from Jason knowing everything.

Ugh, they're making osteoporosis sound like some sort of death sentence. Unless Alexis's case is severe—which it doesn't seem to be—all she has to do is make sure she gets enough calcium, do some weight-bearing exercise, and take her meds. It's not a giant lifestyle change. They're acting as if Alexis has to turn her life upside down to control this thing.

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What was with all the touchy feely today.  Jax plants a kiss on Nina's cheek.  Alexis has her hands on Molly's face.  Sonny gives Avery a hug.  I get that they're being tested probably on a daily basis, but that still felt like a bit much since were still in a pandemic.  

Dear Show, I do not beleive for one minute that Dev has feelings for Joss, nor that he would talk to Brando about it.  

Sonny to Carly:  How am I going to tell Avery that her grandfather died.    Ten minutes later, Sonny to Avery:  "Honey, Grandpa died".  Wow, that took such effort to figure out the exact words.  I really wanted Avery to respond with, 'what does died mean'.  

Molly/Alexis/Portia;  I get that it was a PSA for osteoporosis, but the dialogue was so heavy handed, especially on Molly's part.

Molly: <with giant eyes> IT IS NOT A DEATH SENTENCE.  Alright, calm down.  

Oh look Carly, got a haircut on the way home from Turning Woods!  Also, Jason scar healed on the way home from Turning Woods.  

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32 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Sonny to Carly:  How am I going to tell Avery that her grandfather died.    Ten minutes later, Sonny to Avery:  "Honey, Grandpa died".  Wow, that took such effort to figure out the exact words.  I really wanted Avery to respond with, 'what does died mean'.  

Funnily enough (well not really), Avery was allegedly close with Kiki who also died. So unless she doesn't remember her, then the writers could have easily inserted that Grandpa and Kiki are now hanging out together, or whatever. I actually liked Avery's response that she was hungry. It was a child answer. She gets he's gone, doesn't quite grasp that she'll never see him again. 

So Alexis will be a walking talking PSA for the foreseeable future. And it does seem like they are trying to pin Neil's death on Cyrus. I'm pretty sure Cyrus didn't hold Neil down and injected him with the drugs. And Cyrus being all concerned that this might be his product, like WTF. You're a drug lord, you're moving your product through PC, so of course people are going to buy the drugs and inject them and get addicted to them and die from them. What's this now? A caring drug pusher? Another mobster with a heart of gold? Fuck off with that, show. 

And because it cannot be said enough. Run, Brando, run!

Dev has a thing for Joss, Joss has a thing for Cam, Cam has a thing for both Joss and Trina. Thanks, but no thanks.

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46 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

I really wanted Avery to respond with, 'what does died mean'. 

I was legit surprised she didn't. She's not a baby anymore, but she's also not a teenager. I don't know how much of the concept of death she can really understand. Though I think handling it straight on was the way to go. I'm surprised Sonny was so lucid about it. 

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Was the Dev/Joss/Cam/Trina supposed to be the summer romance to pull teens into the show but it got delayed due to the lockdown?  I wish the show would have revised their plans during their time off. Sticking with these storylines is not doing the show any favours.

Ava is friends with Nina and would have been the logical person to say that Avery has a necklace just like Nina's when she sees the necklace on Nina. Why do I think that Carly is going to be starring in that role now?

6 hours ago, lala2 said:

I think the show forgot about Nik’s marriage to Hayden just like they forgot that the Cassadine empire had lost lots of money when Valentin shot Nikolas out of a window!

Surprisingly, they adressed this. When Valentin was trying to convince BL not to tell anyone that he had acquired her ELQ shares, she said that done her research on him and he must be a good business man as he had restored the Cassadine money since he took over the inheritance from NIk.

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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I know no one wants to remind Joss of Oscar (!), but the same things everyone said to her about his death applies to Mike's.

 

ya that was so weird when she was going on and on about she didn't know what to do or how to act, like she never knew anyone who died before.

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Why does Portia sound like she’s delivering THE.WORST.DIAGNOSIS.EVER every single time she’s giving results? Whether they’re tests or surgery. She always sounds so DIRE and the expression on her face doesn’t help, nor do the looooong pauses. She did the same with Ned when Brookie was in surgery and after.

Show can just STOP IT, which making osteoporosis is some death sentence. Just like they did with Diabetes. Man, I miss the Monty/Riche/Labine days when actual work when into making you believe what they were selling.

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9 hours ago, ouinason said:

I think Hayden and Nik took care of that before his reappearance.  The legal stuff to do with bringing him back and stuff.  Otherwise Nik was still dead when he married Ava anyway, which also would be invalid.  

 

Except they had Hayden and Nik talking about it, mentioning that have to something about their marital state since he didn't really die.They never got a chance to get divorced because Nik ended scaring Hayden so much, she disappeared from town.

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2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Surprisingly, they adressed this. When Valentin was trying to convince BL not to tell anyone that he had acquired her ELQ shares, she said that done her research on him and he must be a good business man as he had restored the Cassadine money since he took over the inheritance from NIk.

Ahhh . . . so a few years too late then! I just remember how Nik was trying to grab ELQ b/c the Cassadine empire had been squandered, and Valentin having none of those issues/troubles! 

49 minutes ago, Benji said:

I'm glad LW cut her hair. It looks good at that length. Not sure about the color though....

Agreed. The cut is good. . . . the color . . . not so much! It's like white/grayish looking. It needs more blonde in it. 

 

ETA: It looks blonde on her Instagram, but on my tv, it appears white/gray. Hmmm . . . . strange . . . . . anyway, she has a nice head of hair and I like the cut. 

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When Nina found out that Valentin had faked Sasha being her daughter, Ava took over an expensive bottle of something, buried the hatchet and commiserated with her. Since then, there have been scenes where they're kind of friends.

Joss to Jax:  I don't know what to do now that Mike's died.. 

Me: Your grandmother died about four years ago, Kiki your friend 3 years ago and Oscar 18 months ago. You should be used to this by now.

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17 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Me: Your grandmother died about four years ago, Kiki your friend 3 years ago and Oscar 18 months ago. You should be used to this by now.

Or Morgan who first person who died that she loved.

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