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Whose ass is Tamra gonna kiss, now? Oh, that's right, she still has Shannon. I never really bought the Heather, Shannon, Tamra mean girl trio, anyway. Without the show, H and S wouldn't give someone like Tamra the time of day. She's just not in their league. How much you want to bet Tamra's going to weasel her way back to align herself with Vicki now that the pickins are getting slim. Never put all your eggs in one basket, Tams. 

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15 hours ago, AndySmith said:

Well, regardless of how a person feels about Heather, at least she brought the affluence porn. Vicki and Tamra just don't cut it in that department. At least we still have Shannon for that, to a certain degree.

Yeah, but Heather's new house has even less soul than her old one.

Ostentatious materialism, thy name is Dubrow.

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I'll miss Heather for her vocabulary. I'll never get over the others thinking she uses 'big' words.  I only watch two Housewives shows and I'm not sure I can hang on to this one once Heather is gone. Vicki and Tamara kind of creep me out with their low end tackiness. Shannon's belief in weird medicine is irritating.  Kelly's issues are uncomfortable. That leaves the woma whose name I can't remember. She seems sane at least.

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I am completely bummed, but good for her if it was about the family. If there is trouble in paradise, best to stay far away from the Bravo cameras. I cannot imagine her pulling a Shannon and dragging her family through such horror on national TV. 

I am with you. I am disappointed, but if the whole Terry had an affair rumor is true than I am glad the aftermath is staying behind closed doors. I disliked when Shannon did it. It is real, but not very fun to watch. I liked Heather (as much as I really like any of the RH's). I always thought I would be more of a Heather if I had to hang around this group of OC housewives. I also liked that in most cases she could argue and disagree with people while keeping a calm speaking voice. Meghan was pretty good with that also. Neither of them turned into shrill harpies that often.

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I was inclined to give Kelly a second chance for season two but her tweets, etc. are just too foul.   I don't have as good a grasp of the English language as Heather, but there is a line for me.  Words like "whore", "douche", etc. reflect a lack of education, self-control, and often intelligence.  They are meant to be foul, and so they are.  I want to be entertained, not repulsed. 

At one point, I think I leaned toward Kelly over Heather but reading some of Kelly's posts, etc. is a good reminder that she is too simple and foul for my tastes.

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On 1/27/2017 at 6:15 PM, chick binewski said:

I don't think this set of pictures has been posted yet. Some of them are older shots. It's very...Restoration Hardware chic? The eggs in the fireplace freak me out (I'm not sure why) but I like the framed black camellias in the bathroom. Also, I want an olive tree and am completely jealous of Coco's personalized Lego table. 

I don't remember if it was a gossip site or just the posters making statements about Kelly & her rant on the bus - saying she said something about Terry (implying Kelly knew about this possibly fictitious affair) and Heather went nuts? IDK, it's so easy to put meaning to things after the fact.   

Although I am now apparently standing on the Terry Had an Affair-hill that I was originally loath to mention, I would TOTALLY buy Heather wanting a place on BH. Getting kicked out of bars and run over on sand dunes must drive her nuts when RHBH is hanging in Dubai. This needs to happen so we can witness an LVP-Dubrow face-off instead of the faux-sobriety sewing circles.  

Thanks for the link!  

It was confirmed by someone on the bus that Kelly said something about everyone, including Heather, and the comment involved her husband/marriage.  I bet something very true was said about Terry.  When Tamra was on Heather McDonald's podcast, Heather asked her what was said about Heather and Tamra VERY quickly said, "I don't even remember."  She shut it down.  I am 100% sure that Heather and Terry told her not to breath a word of it, not to give it life, or it would turn into something.

I feel like it is turning into something BECAUSE of the efforts to shut it up.  I am actually surprised that Bravo didn't show it - they don't care about these women!  If it's juicy, they will show it.  Maybe the person filming on their iphone didn't catch it?

Although, even with all of the evidence, and the Blind Items, I cannot imagine Terry having an affair.  I just can't see it.  I will say that Heather Dubrow's podcast used to include a lot of mentions and funny stories about Terry and lately I haven't heard her say much about him.  I guess I don't listen to the podcast all that often, though.

 

On 1/28/2017 at 1:08 PM, bichonblitz said:

Whose ass is Tamra gonna kiss, now? Oh, that's right, she still has Shannon. I never really bought the Heather, Shannon, Tamra mean girl trio, anyway. Without the show, H and S wouldn't give someone like Tamra the time of day. She's just not in their league. How much you want to bet Tamra's going to weasel her way back to align herself with Vicki now that the pickins are getting slim. Never put all your eggs in one basket, Tams. 

Tamra is so NOT someone Heather would ever deign to be friends with in real life.  She is trashy, foul mouthed and kind of poor.  Not that Heather is actually better than her, but she thinks she is.  Maybe that is why she is friends with her - she likes to feel superior.  And she doesn't want to be left out.  I bet the friendship fizzles out now that she will not be on the show.

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On 1/30/2017 at 0:30 PM, Stinamaia said:

I'll miss Heather for her vocabulary. I'll never get over the others thinking she uses 'big' words.  I only watch two Housewives shows and I'm not sure I can hang on to this one once Heather is gone. Vicki and Tamara kind of creep me out with their low end tackiness. Shannon's belief in weird medicine is irritating.  Kelly's issues are uncomfortable. That leaves the woma whose name I can't remember. She seems sane at least.

Totally agree. Some of her vocabulary was impressive, but most was pretty pedestrian for me. I suppose that when your go-to words are swear words, you don't need a very broad vocabulary.

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On 1/27/2017 at 6:15 PM, chick binewski said:

I don't think this set of pictures has been posted yet. Some of them are older shots. It's very...Restoration Hardware chic? The eggs in the fireplace freak me out (I'm not sure why) but I like the framed black camellias in the bathroom. Also, I want an olive tree and am completely jealous of Coco's personalized Lego table. 

I don't remember if it was a gossip site or just the posters making statements about Kelly & her rant on the bus - saying she said something about Terry (implying Kelly knew about this possibly fictitious affair) and Heather went nuts? IDK, it's so easy to put meaning to things after the fact.   

Although I am now apparently standing on the Terry Had an Affair-hill that I was originally loath to mention, I would TOTALLY buy Heather wanting a place on BH. Getting kicked out of bars and run over on sand dunes must drive her nuts when RHBH is hanging in Dubai. This needs to happen so we can witness an LVP-Dubrow face-off instead of the faux-sobriety sewing circles.  

Oh my God. That house is so bleak! So much of the interior is grey, black, or white. Looks to me like it was designed by someone who fancies themselves an interior designer, yet lacks an understanding of color theory and is terrified of putting any color anywhere. The way she's decorated it is so boring; I'd probably end up jumping off the cliff the house is built on to get away from it (if it were my house).

Thank God for my wife! She put copper paint up in the dining room, a beautiful and warm red wine color in the living room, and the kitchen is a white that slightly changes hue depending on the way the sun hits it and depending on what other color is near it. My home office is a blue grey that slightly changes hue based on the color near it; I have black and gold curtains and the walls are more grey near them, while the walls are more blue near the white trim. The bathroom is a brown that changes hue based on the color near it; it's used as an accent in our bedroom (where the walls are chocolate) and it looks almost sandalwood in color there. My favorite room is probably the living room - super relaxing in there.

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Wow, I'm a pretty optimistic person generally, but living in Heathers drab tomb of a house would depress me.  And why is there drab brown shag carpeting under the drab brown couch?   Heather, you can afford Persian rugs, even the antique ones! 

I much prefer Tamra and Eddies "small " house with the white woodwork and blue walls.  This place looks like H.P. lovecraft designed it.  If anyone has ever seen the church in Ave Maria, Florida, it has the same imposing feel.  At least when you leave the church, you can go to your light, bright home.   Damn, this thing is a pile.  I can't wait to see it completely done.  

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On 3/30/2017 at 9:36 AM, zoeysmom said:

Jeff Lewis reveals the real reason Heather Dubrow left RHOC:   http://www.allabouttrh.com/2017/03/30/jeff-lewis-reveals-real-reason-heather-dubrow-left-rhoc/

Do I believe this? Yes, but not necessarily for all of the reasons that Jeff lists. Jeff hates Heather so he can't see the quite logical reasons why Heather would not want to come back:

  • Terry is the one who wanted to do the show. He forged her signature on the contract. Terry has always been more invested in doing the show than Heather.
  • For her first 2 seasons, Heather was obviously pretty miserable.
  • In season 9, Heather is finally finding her footing, but she gets into her massive fight with Shannon.
  • Season 10 is her best season. She really isn't getting into huge fights with anyone. And her biggest issue is building her house.
  • And then there is season 11. Heather and Shannon are getting along, but on the outs with Vicki and the show adds the utterly repellent Kelly Dodd.

So I'm sure that when Bravo came to her, said that they were demoting her to a friend position, and that she still would have to attend some events with Vicki and Kelly, Heather was basically like fuq that nonsense. Terry's got his show. They've got their evine products. Their house is done. She's got her podcasts. Filming takes a ton of time and she doesn't want to hang out with people she hates.

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AndySmith

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I agree, to a certain extent. I feel Heather wanted to be the show, hoping it would jumpstart her acting career again. And she did get the occasional gig here and there. But eventually she realized that was all she was going to get. Once she realized that, she decided she was done with the show. That and she decided the dislike of most of her co-stars outweighed whatever financial rewards she was receiving, and decided bye!

I mean, other HWs might put up with things and stay on the show because they need the money, but Heather and Terry don't.

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qtpye

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On ‎4‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 1:08 PM, AndySmith said:

I agree, to a certain extent. I feel Heather wanted to be the show, hoping it would jumpstart her acting career again. And she did get the occasional gig here and there. But eventually she realized that was all she was going to get. Once she realized that, she decided she was done with the show. That and she decided the dislike of most of her co-stars outweighed whatever financial rewards she was receiving, and decided bye!

There was something always so desperate and pathetic about Heather and Terry.  They truly do have it all, which includes tons of money, a loving marriage, and beautiful kids.  Terry was in a profession that was well respected.  However, Terry was dying to be a reality tv star and Heather thought she could actually get legitimate acting gigs out of this.  Heather had a couple of chances to make it big as an actress and none of them panned out.  There was a "please look at us and tell us how awesome we are quality" to them that made it uncomfortable to watch. 

Heather wanted to be a reality tv star that was above your average reality tv star and life does not work out like that.  I really do not know why the heck they bother with any of this shit, considering all that they have, but I have never seen the appeal of this type of d-list fame.

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On 4/1/2017 at 10:31 AM, PhilMarlowe2 said:

This is what I assumed happened all along. If Heather wanted her kids to have privacy, she could have chosen not to put them on air. Her story never really clicked with me. The whole payoff to her storyline the last two seasons was going to happen this time around.

Heather never fit in with the others.  If it weren't for the show, Heather would never socialize with this crew.  They have nothing in common. 

Same with Meghan.  Both were round pegs in square holes.  

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4 hours ago, qtpye said:

There was something always so desperate and pathetic about Heather and Terry.  They truly do have it all, which includes tons of money, a loving marriage, and beautiful kids.  Terry was in a profession that was well respected.  However, Terry was dying to be a reality tv star and Heather thought she could actually get legitimate acting gigs out of this.  Heather had a couple of chances to make it big as an actress and none of them panned out.  There was a "please look at us and tell us how awesome we are quality" to them that made it uncomfortable to watch.

Heather wanted to be a reality tv star that was above your average reality tv star and life does not work out like that.  I really do not know why the heck they bother with any of this shit, considering all that they have, but I have never seen the appeal of this type of d-list fame.

 

Your whole post is spot on and the bolded part is probably the best description of Heather and Ho-Hubby written to date.

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6 hours ago, qtpye said:

There was something always so desperate and pathetic about Heather and Terry.  They truly do have it all, which includes tons of money, a loving marriage, and beautiful kids.  Terry was in a profession that was well respected.  However, Terry was dying to be a reality tv star and Heather thought she could actually get legitimate acting gigs out of this.  Heather had a couple of chances to make it big as an actress and none of them panned out.  There was a "please look at us and tell us how awesome we are quality" to them that made it uncomfortable to watch. 

Heather wanted to be a reality tv star that was above your average reality tv star and life does not work out like that.  I really do not know why the heck they bother with any of this shit, considering all that they have, but I have never seen the appeal of this type of d-list fame.

I think that's what makes them so contemptible to me. Particularly Terry. He just seems like a pig who loves to roll in shit. Someone like Tamra needs the paycheck. And people like Shannon and Vicki are genuinely crazy and off-the-wall enough to be into this experience for the sake of the experience. But Terry? He's smart and successful enough to know better and to not need it. He comes off like the definition of a fame whore. I know they're all fame whores, but Terry seems like nothing but a fame whore. It's like he can't help himself. He needs it and loves it. There is something so gross about it. It's hard to put my finger on. It's like they love to be a part of it, but also feel they are better than it, and generally seem both self-serving and mean-spirited all at the same time.

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It's like they love to be a part of it, but also feel they are better than it

That's why I feel that for all the talk of Heather being a better fit on RHOBH, it wouldn't quite work for them. On this show, they are at the top in terms of the social and financial food chain, so to speak. You had people who came close, like Shannon and Lydia, but Heather and Terry always seemed to be at the top (or saw themselves that way). If they went to BH, Heather would have to get in line behind LVP and Kyle. Would she and Terry be ok with that? Then again, it might be fun to see them go to BH and see how they'd adjust and try and fit in being in the middle of the pack financially, and maybe even lower, socially, depending on which HW you are comparing them to.

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qtpye

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7 hours ago, AndySmith said:

That's why I feel that for all the talk of Heather being a better fit on RHOBH, it wouldn't quite work for them. On this show, they are at the top in terms of the social and financial food chain, so to speak. You had people who came close, like Shannon and Lydia, but Heather and Terry always seemed to be at the top (or saw themselves that way). If they went to BH, Heather would have to get in line behind LVP and Kyle. Would she and Terry be ok with that? Then again, it might be fun to see them go to BH and see how they'd adjust and try and fit in being in the middle of the pack financially, and maybe even lower, socially, depending on which HW you are comparing them to.

It's a good question.  A lot of the BH people have real money and people like Lisa Rinna and Kyle Richards have had acting careers even more successful then Heather.  What would Heather and Terry do if they are not the alphas?  Also with LVP, you can see she is very comfortable with her money.  She might be a tad bit tacky with the pink, but she really does not have anything to prove.

LVP does not have to get into arguments with the neighbors about who has a "motor court" or what the hell ever that was about.  They do not have to tell us three times about how they have the biggest house in the neighborhood.

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Heather is just too good for these bottom feeding, lowdown, nebulous carpetbagging scalliwags.   I don't care how superior, bitchy, judgy, and holier than thou she is.  Heather made these scumbags look lower than poop on a sidewalk in contrast.   I loved that.  Heather, call me.  I lost 20 lbs and am ready for your cast off clothing, opulent ice cubes, and possibly bruising my coccyx sitting in your industrial, torture chamber looking house.  

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On 4/4/2017 at 0:56 AM, AndySmith said:

That's why I feel that for all the talk of Heather being a better fit on RHOBH, it wouldn't quite work for them. On this show, they are at the top in terms of the social and financial food chain, so to speak. You had people who came close, like Shannon and Lydia, but Heather and Terry always seemed to be at the top (or saw themselves that way). If they went to BH, Heather would have to get in line behind LVP and Kyle. Would she and Terry be ok with that? Then again, it might be fun to see them go to BH and see how they'd adjust and try and fit in being in the middle of the pack financially, and maybe even lower, socially, depending on which HW you are comparing them to.

I don't know how well it would all work out, but I think it would add such an interesting dynamic to the show. Kyle and Heather are good friends off camera, and by the little I have read, Kyle and Mauricio and even Ken and Lisa have remained close to Paul, who is on Botched with Terry. It is possible these people already casually socialize. I have always really liked Heather because she is usually game for anything, and always behaves like a normal person when she travels with the OC gals.  And she has a decent vocabulary. Her home is not of the style I would ever select, but I love the house porn and think she has great personal style. Her clothes are almost always on point and fit her deliciously. I am really going to miss her and think I may give the show up to show my displeasure. There is just no one else I can really stand on this show. 

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On 1/27/2017 at 9:17 PM, AndySmith said:

Well, regardless of how a person feels about Heather, at least she brought the affluence porn. Vicki and Tamra just don't cut it in that department. At least we still have Shannon for that, to a certain degree.

Yeah Tamra and Eddie don't live in a chic bougouis neighborhood. It's nice but it's nothing special. Even I know people who live in Ladera Ranch! Lol. I like Eddie. I kind of feel bad for him. I hope for his sake things stay "happily ever after".

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I don't think this has been posted (there are some related Bravo links upthread) but it's Jeff going into more detail about his distaste for Madam Puppet, including specifics as to what happened at the dinner party at which began the Lewis-Dubrow brouhaha:

 

https://www.accesshollywood.com/videos/flipping-out-star-jeff-lewis-heather-dubrow-is-fake-pretentious/

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HunterHunted

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1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

I can see Heather doing that. Wow. Just so pretentious and nasty. Jeff has a rude side himself (although more so with friends and colleagues), so you know if HE thinks it's bad, it's bad. 

I don't think I'd enjoy Heather as a personal, at all, but I do miss her on the SHOW. 

All of this time, Jeff has described Heather as being rude to the waitstaff. For a very long time, I didn't think that Heather would be verbally rude to waitstaff. But that arm movement, she'd totally do that. So yeah, I believe it now.

I'm going to call slight shenanigans on Jeff because how Heather described his question about plastic surgery sounds more like something he'd say then what he said in that interview. Jeff's quote was "You look great. Have you had any work done?" Which, first of all, is rude as fuck. The polite version of that question is "what have you been doing?" so that if the person has just been going to the spa, they can say that. If they want to cop to surgery, they can. Heather says he said something along the lines of "You should just admit to whatever surgeries you've had. People would like you more if you did." That sounds a lot more like something Jeff would say.

Additionally, Heather is really sensitive about the plastic surgery question. She looks almost exactly like she did 20 years ago just with less fat in her face, which we lose as we age. Unfortunately, Heather naturally looks really pulled and plasticy, which is probably why she's sensitive about the surgery questions. I don't think she's done more than botox and fillers and you can tell.

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Jextella

Jextella

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I can't seem to watch this season - mostly because of Kelly's stupidity and abrasiveness.   I would much rather see Heather than Kelly (and I was never a huge Heather fan).

The new wfe is a snooze fest.  Tamra's need to start arguments to have a story line is old  She needs a new angle, but I don't think she has one.   I still like Vicki and Shannon on the show.  I'm glad Shannon is doing something without David (the restaurant) but ultimately I hope she kicks him to the curb.

Lydia and Meghan are filler this season.   I think they'd be ok on the show but it's hard to say because the dynamic of Kelly and the new wife seem to have derailed the mojo. Maybe they'd seem like better fits without them in the picture.

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5 hours ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

Tamra has implied that Heather was sore over not being part of the show this year and retreated from all of them.

IMO, now that she's no longer a wife she doesn't need to demonstrate fondness or tolerance for her former castmates. I know in the past we'd occasionally see social media postings of Heather out with Tams (or whomever), but those always rang false to me -- more "let's do this to make sure viewers keep us in mind in anticipation for next season" rather than any true friendship. Heather is pompous as Hell but she's also smart about keeping herself in the public eye.

Shortly before S3 of NY launched, Luann gave an interview and was asked about the other women (Sonja hadn't come aboard at that point) and Lu quite emphatically stated she had zero contact with any of her castmates in the off-season or unless the cameras were on.

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16 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

I have a feeling that hotel DeBrow will be a pay for view event. ( click to pay/view ect,)

Sneak peeks but no "meat" for regular viewers.

I thought that but it seems crazy weird they haven't gotten any takers. So maybe they are holding out but it's been complete for awhile.

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