S07.E04: Weekend at Brandy's II

[OnceSane]

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Charter guest Brandy continues to stress out the entire crew with her intoxicated shenanigans, culminating in an emergency beach rescue; Brian breaks an expensive piece of equipment; Tanner gets stood up for a date; Kevin insults Capt. Lee.

Airs October 28, 2019.

[The Ringo Kidd]

I wonder how Kevin insults Captain Lee?

I hope he doesn’t go to him to complain about Kate and the failures of the interior to serve food before the guests have to come to the galley to get spoons and forks and beverages.

[biakbiak]

9 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

wonder how Kevin insults Captain Lee?

I believe it was shown in the preview, Captain Lee is at dinner and Kevin ends up “tasting” so much of his dish that he doesn’t have enough food to serve him dinner.

[Rhetorica]

Seizures are mentioned about Brandy...

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/below-deck-guest-challenges-chef-adrian-and-reveals-what-was-really-going-on-with-brandy.html/

[PaperTree]

"When the hosts asked (Helen) about her interactions with (Chef) Martin last season, she seemed hurt he mocked her.

“After the episode, he basically ridiculed me about me being in my heels and my nails,” she said. “I can cook and I’m an amazing hostess. I just wanted to be in the kitchen and watch what he did.

And we were having a great time and he steps off the air and says that. I’m like, ‘Are you kidding?’ Like he was having as much fun as I was.” "

Chef Unicorn was just another horny billy goat.

[TexasGal]

Did Abbi put bronzer on her arms?  Keep any powder type product for your super damp face please!

[whydoievencare]

Wow, the chef (who sets such high standards for himself) seems like a moron - he can't count how many people he's cooking for? (or plan ahead - didn't order seafood for the "extravaganza").  

Edited October 29, 2019 by whydoievencare

[pieinmyeye]

I can’t believe the douche bag turned around and walked out on the Captain, suddenly found some fresh prawns in the freezer, and then ate Cap’s dinner! If I was the Captain, I would be so embarrassed.

[ghoulina]

I still can't get over how nonchalant Brandy's friends were, in regards to her state of health, while Captain is over there calling a medic. I guess they might just be used to it. Or they might just be that self absorbed. 

Did Brandy say she'd been drinking for 2 weeks straight? She basically wasted her entire trip, blitzed out on champagne. Well, except for her one solo party at midnight.

I was impressed that Brian went right to Captain Lee and told him what happened with that piece of equipment. I think he's an alight guy. And, as much as I like Ashton, I thought it was kind of shitty that he made such a big point of telling Brian how Courtney is not his type, then starts hitting on her like mad. 

Kevin was a mess, as per usual. I couldn't believe that when he realized his snafu he didn't come up with something else, very quickly, to feed the Captain. And then, after the guests went down below, Kevin would have immediately sought out Captain to apologize. He really didn't seem to think it was THAT big of deal. Kevin. The same guy who thinks it's appropriate to walk out on his Capitan mid-sentence. I hope we see the back of him soon. 

[pieinmyeye]

Insecure much, Kev? He went to the wheelhouse thinking Captain was going to fall  over himself raving about the dinner...he didn’t have. Then proceeded to pout for 24 hours.
 

I’m with Simone. I don’t know how they drink like that knowing they have to work the next day. I get nauseous just thinking about it.

Edited October 29, 2019 by pieinmyeye

[PaperTree]

Kevin really needs to get over himself.

He should have been fired after turning his back and walking out on the Capt.

Then he doesn't make enough food after "emptying the freezer".

Doctor tells Brandy to stop drinking, so after 12 hours in a coma she wakes up and demands champagne.  Good job Courtney getting Kate on it.  I'm loving her deadpan snark.  The sparkling water was clever.

Abbi tries to drink herself out of a job because she's too chicken to quit.  It's not your boyfriend's sailboat, but he's not paying you $800 a day.

[spunky]

Go home Kevin!!! How do you forget to feed your boss!? Abbi it’s really simple pumpkin, keep your hair up when working with lines and machinery. And please stop complaining about having to change your uniform. I can’t believe she got so drunk she couldn’t get up to work. I hope that Brandy got the help that she needed. Being passed out drunk during her entire charter wasn’t a good look.

[hoosiermommy]

The scariest thing for me when watching Brandy was the loss of motor function. She was limp. Man, I get she was drunk, but I’ve never seen someone in that state of drunkenness before. 
 

If I were on the boat, I’d be Courtney. She isn’t joyless, she is just so over the childishness of the behavior—drunkenness, flirtation, mindless fawning. She wants something of substance and none of these yahoos is likely to give it to her.

[breezy424]

So Kevin walks away from his boss, then gives him a pat when he has no main course for him and then gets pissed off that the captain didn't look at him when talking to him and ignores him at the tip meeting.  You're getting a reality check Kevin.  You're not the admiral.

I think there might be something living in Abbi's hair.  God, does she even comb it? (For survivor watchers:  She would have no problem hiding a hidden immunity idol in that mess.) 

Brandi was scary. 

[Koalagirl]

Hmmm, if Kevin walks will we see yet another rescue by Ben?

[PaperTree]

10 minutes ago, Koalagirl said:

Hmmm, if Kevin walks will we see yet another rescue by Ben?

Please no.  I want something fresh, not aged...

[laprin]

Kevin is a shit. Period. He can leave and be replaced by any of the previous chefs from either Below Deck (with the exception of Mila) and it would be a step up.

There is no plausible reason why I should like Courtney, but there is something about the way she pays the guys absolute dust that entertains me.

[bichonblitz]

24 minutes ago, laprin said:

Kevin is a shit. Period. He can leave and be replaced by any of the previous chefs from either Below Deck (with the exception of Mila) and it would be a step up.

And the awful chef with attitude that wanted to serve beef cheeks for every dinner. I wouldn't want to see his face ever again. Besides, he treated my girl Kate like crap. She gave it right back to him, though. Or am I getting my Below Decks confused...maybe he was on Med.....

Edited October 29, 2019 by bichonblitz

[biakbiak]

54 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

And the awful chef with attitude that wanted to serve beef cheeks for every dinner. I wouldn't want to see his face ever again. Besides, he treated my girl Kate like crap. She gave it right back to him, though. Or am I getting my Below Decks confused...maybe he was on Med.....

Leon was Chef Beef Cheeks and it was on this show. When that season was airing I was out to dinner and there were beef cheeks on the menu and I asked my friends if they thought Leon worked there and the people at the table next to us were like “we love Below Deck!!”

Edited October 29, 2019 by biakbiak

[The Ringo Kidd]

Kevin should walk. The lack of enough entrees was obviously produced manipulation. He is not in a position to come back from this. Not when Kate is submarining him and the Captain taking her tattling to heart. It’s a no win.

Captain Lee management style is as bad as Call Me Captain Sandy in it’s own way.
 

[biakbiak]

40 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Kevin should walk. The lack of enough entrees was obviously produced manipulation. He is not in a position to come back from this. Not when Kate is submarining him and the Captain taking her tattling to heart. It’s a no win.

Captain Lee management style is as bad as Call Me Captain Sandy in it’s own way.
 

How is it productions fault that he ate Lee’s fish? Also, he admitted last week that he didn’t order properly.

[Delete]

Brandi was just plain weird...drunk, sober, kinda sober. I like how Courtney and Kate handled her, and helped avoid another exorcism. Her 'friends' seemed very apathetic to her. Why did they even invite her?

You mean to tell me that there was nothing else that Kevin could have whipped up for Captain Lee?  Kevin was so darn arrogant about it too. Then he gets butt hurt over it and sulks a the bar.

  I like how Kate handled the Tanner situation. She went about her business, washed her hair, got made up, and then walked into the galley all cool like.

Ashton gets extremely competitive when he's drunk. He's also not use to getting shut down, and Courtney did precisely that.  😀

[The Ringo Kidd]

Of course Kevin would have made him something even if it was just a steak. That’s why I am calling producer shenanigans.

[MVFrostsMyPie]

I somehow doubt it. Kevin doesn't seem to know how to plan, nor improvise. 

Brandy would be a perfect candidate for Intervention. It hurt my liver having to watch her in the last couple episodes. 

I think I've muttered those same words that came from Courtney. I don't want to date a guy who spends hours working out and spends more time in the gym than with me and takes mirror selfies. Ugh. I hope she doesn't end up hooking up with any of the guys because it'd be nice to actually not have any relationship drama (I know, what am I saying, this is a Bravo show, but I like when the conflicts don't have to do with sexual tension).

"Two most flaws"?? LOL.

[MVFrostsMyPie]

Also every time Ashton says "deckhand" I think he's saying "dickhead". 

"You're here to be a dickhead!"

[scrb]

The new chef is the story for the first quarter or so of this season.

Captain is talking about firing him and he's talking about quitting.

Whatever, get rid of him or keep him on.  The story is boring yet they keep replaying that clip of Lee eating garnish.  They probably will again next episode.

I'm starting to think Jack on BDM had the right idea.  This is a TV show so why bother to work?  Either they will fire him or they won't.  He made himself a story line though with his slacking and then chasing after Aesha.  So the producers kept him on.

I think Brian and Tanner being so thirsty for Courtney and Kate can't be for real.  They needed stories for their characters and this is apparently it, since hookups is good TV on Bravo.  Of course Ashton was chasing Courtney too after he had a couple of drinks.  After he'd said she's not his type.  Sure she's female, young, attractive so how is she not his type?

[The Ringo Kidd]

That’s exactly right. It’s a TV show with manufactured drama. Very little of it is natural or organic. That’s not to say that it isn’t entertaining.

Some of it does rub me wrong. Captain Lee’s management style of pithy sayings and gruff disengagement just doesn’t cover it. If he has such a big problem with Kevin he should hash it out or fire him. Not stare off in the distance and grunt pithy platitudes. That’s grade A bullshit right there.

Edited October 29, 2019 by The Ringo Kidd

[dsteele]

8 hours ago, Koalagirl said:

Hmmm, if Kevin walks will we see yet another rescue by Ben?

By all that is holy, please NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Surely there is one chef somewhere in the world willing to come aboard. And if not, maybe Applebee's can just send a couple of boxes of food 🥮 🍕 🍔 (Survivor fans will understand...)

[Special K]

That Brandy was some piece of work.  Drinks herself into a stupor for two weeks, at great inconvenience and worry to the professionals around her.  Then, she arises out of her stupor, demands more alcohol, and sits up, yelling and complaining into her phone in the middle of the night.  You'd think she'd wake up chastened or at least a bit embarrassed.  Where do they get these people?  Is this her idea of vacation?  Girl needs rehab.

Bravo for Courtney for not giving her alcohol.  She's becoming my favorite.  Good sense, no drama, and nice snark.  Interior crew is great this season.

Kevin is an idiot.  Most catering chefs will prepare a few extra plates just in case -- what if someone wants a second portion?  Haven't we seen, in other seasons, the crew eating the extras?  He's spent so much time complaining about the conditions and people around him, he forgot to be on top of his own damn job.  But Lee was unnecessarily passive aggressive with him, I thought.  Unless he was silent because he was trying to contain his rage, which seems a strong possibility.

Abbi -- the job requires you to change your clothes.  Yes, you have to put your hair up.  No, it's not a sailboat.  Yes, you have to report to work on time.  If you can't handle those basic realities, it's not the job for you.

Edited October 29, 2019 by Special K

[Yours Truly]

7 hours ago, MVFrostsMyPie said:

I think I've muttered those same words that came from Courtney. I don't want to date a guy who spends hours working out and spends more time in the gym than with me and takes mirror selfies. Ugh. I hope she doesn't end up hooking up with any of the guys because it'd be nice to actually not have any relationship drama (I know, what am I saying, this is a Bravo show, but I like when the conflicts don't have to do with sexual tension).

"Two most flaws"?? LOL.

HERE, HERE!!

Edited October 29, 2019 by Yours Truly

[Yours Truly]

1 hour ago, dsteele said:

By all that is holy, please NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Surely there is one chef somewhere in the world willing to come aboard. And if not, maybe Applebee's can just send a couple of boxes of food 🥮 🍕 🍔 (Survivor fans will understand...)

I wouldn't mind seeing Matt again but for dramas sake I'm thinking Adam would be more to the producers liking as a replacement.  I doubt it would be Ben though. They know we've just come off a season watching him, love him or hate him I doubt the producers would think over saturating their Bravo audience with Ben would be wise. 

[Misslindsey]

7 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Some of it does rub me wrong. Captain Lee’s management style of pithy sayings and gruff disengagement just doesn’t cover it. If he has such a big problem with Kevin he should hash it out or fire him. Not stare off in the distance and grunt pithy platitudes. That’s grade A bullshit right there.

This. Kevin screwed up and deserved some shit for that, but Captain Lee not even bothering to look at him and then praising every team, but him was some passive aggressive BS. I may be biased since I have been over Captain Lee since the Rocky season. I find him no better or worse than Captain Sandy.

Another unpopular opinion is that I get that Captain Lee and Kate are close, but I do find it a bit concerning that he takes her word over anyone else. Sigh, but what do I know?

Edited October 29, 2019 by Misslindsey

[terrymct]

12 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

Wow, the chef (who sets such high standards for himself) seems like a moron - he can't count how many people he's cooking for? (or plan ahead - didn't order seafood for the "extravaganza").  

And how do you not have a freezer/fridge full of seafood for a trip on a mega yacht?  It's easy to cook, looks impressive, and you're sitting right there on top of the ocean so it sort of goes with the theme of the whole thing.

I'd be surprised if Kevin lasts another week.

Other topics:

Brandy has a significant problem.  That her friends don't react means that they've seen this routine before.  It seems like she's a bit embarrassed now that she's seen herself.  Hopefully, that shocks her into something more than making weak excuses.

I'm confused by the problem with the davit/winch/crane.  The line slipped off the roller.  Ok, the engineer should get the ladder, remove the shroud covering the end of the davit, put the line back on the roller, replace the shroud, then test the device.   It's not brain surgery.  I've seen it done.

[ihartcoffee]

She needs to learn to braid it, that's the best solution for her on a boat in hot,  humid weather.  Kevin  is acting like a total douche bag. Good chefs seem to be hard to find....

[SuprSuprElevated]

11 hours ago, hoosiermommy said:

She wants something of substance

So you're saying she's never watched Below Deck.

[Special K]

2 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

So you're saying she's never watched Below Deck.

Or she didn't come on the show to find a man.

[ohcomeon]

25 minutes ago, Misslindsey said:

This. Kevin screwed up and deserved some shit for that, but Captain Lee not even bothering to look at him and then praising every team, but him was some passive aggressive BS. I may be biased since I have been over Captain Lee since the Rocky season. I find him no better or worse than Captain Sandy.

Another unpopular opinion is that I get that Captain Lee and Kate are close, but I do find it a bit concerning that he takes her word over anyone else. Sigh, but what do I know?

I'm not a huge fan of Captain Lee's management style either. It's a good thing he is a boat captain because he'd never be able to work in an environment where he has to cooperate with others or work to get consensus with a group of other executives. He only understands old fashioned military style pecking order. 

But I do understand why he takes Kate's word. So far, she has not really steered him wrong in her assessment of people's skills. So if you have an employee that is pretty darn competent or one that has just arrived and you know nothing about, sure you are going to put more stock in the known employee's opinions over others. 

[SuprSuprElevated]

37 minutes ago, Misslindsey said:

I do find it a bit concerning that he takes her word over anyone else.

Just like every workplace in the free world.  Unfortunately.

[esco1822]

7 hours ago, scrb said:

After he'd said she's not his type.  Sure she's female, young, attractive so how is she not his type?

She's not his type because she's not falling all over him. She's going to make him work to earn her attention and I don't see Ashton as the type to put in a lot of work to get a woman's attention. 

[laprin]

9 hours ago, biakbiak said:

How is it productions fault that he ate Lee’s fish? Also, he admitted last week that he didn’t order properly.

Plus, he confirmed with Kate that there would be 7 seated for dinner, including Captain Lee.  At a minimum, he needed to create 7 dishes and a smart chef always plans for extras just in case.  What if Brandy did want to eat? What if one of the stews dropped a bowl. Just poor planning on his part - nothing to do with production.

[PaperTree]

56 minutes ago, terrymct said:

I'm confused by the problem with the davit/winch/crane.  The line slipped off the roller.  Ok, the engineer should get the ladder, remove the shroud covering the end of the davit, put the line back on the roller, replace the shroud, then test the device.   It's not brain surgery.  I've seen it done.

That whole business confused me too.  He made a mistake not telling Ashton first, but I can understand the adrenaline rush of fear and the desire to just fess up to the captain and get it over with.

We have no idea where Ashton was or what he was doing at the time.

[Special K]

17 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

That whole business confused me too.  He made a mistake not telling Ashton first, but I can understand the adrenaline rush of fear and the desire to just fess up to the captain and get it over with.

We have no idea where Ashton was or what he was doing at the time.

He did the right thing in going to the Captain, but he should have also told Ashton, if not before, then after.  He should have told Ashton what he did and that he had already spoken to the Captain and taken responsibility for it.  That way, Ashton wouldn't have to hear about it from the Captain, and could be ready with a response (this is how we're going to avoid such things moving forward, etc.)

Not the end of the world, and correctable, since Brian's intentions were in the right place (taking responsibility straightaway).

[PaperTree]

Timing is everything...

Some fun stuff here:

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/below-deck-captain-lee-and-kate-chastain-live-tweet-about-chef-kevin-and-it-isnt-good.html/

[biakbiak]

In all the talk about Abbi’s hair, I also noticed that Courtney’s hair frequently looks like crap. It’s interesting because she seems like the sort of person who would put a lot of effort into her appearance.

Back to Abbi’s hair my scalp and neck get sweaty just looking at her! During a particularly hot and humid month when I was in Bali I once put my hair into a ponytail and cut it off because it was so heavy and I wasn’t going to go into town for a week or so! 

[tiredofwork]

It bothers me that beautiful, balanced, witty Simone seems to be "the help" stuck in the laundry room.  She gets zero of the interest seemingly directed at all the other crew women nor do they even show her getting attention when they go out from the locals.

I know,  too each his own as to what some are and are not attracted to and I am not implying anything to do with racism.. it is just an unfortunate optic for me to see.

[scrb]

Wasn't Ash asleep when Brain went to the captain?

Or at least in his room?

[The Ringo Kidd]

Of course it was producer shenanigans. Look the next day after the seafood debacle he finds  a drawerful of prawns? And the mahi mahi? Somebody so anal that he rehoused salt and pepper didn’t know he had that in the freezer? 

This is nonsense.

Look this show follows a formula. Kate has problems with the Chef. She rats him out to the  Captain. Then the Chef quits like Leon or surrenders like Matt or mumbles psychotically under his breath while torturing sea creatures like Adrian. Only Ben was able to survive relatively unscathed because he was more important to the show at the time.

Next Kate picks a stew to “other.” The might not be good at their job but she use it to get the other stew to mean girl her victim.

Add a deckhand who screws up and gets fired and that’s every season so far.

Edited October 29, 2019 by The Ringo Kidd

[esco1822]

19 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Of course it was producer shenanigans. Look the next day after the seafood debacle he finds  a drawerful of prawns? And the mahi mahi? Somebody so anal that he rehoused salt and pepper didn’t know he had that in the freezer? 

This is nonsense.

Even if this is correct, Kevin is responsible for his own reactions to the situations at hand. He is responsible for not giving Captain Lee something else when he had no entree (even if it took a few extra minutes), he is responsible for turning his back and walking out on Captain Lee and he is responsible for calling him a CU Next Tuesday. The Great and All Powerful Kate did not make him do these things and they are all independent of Kate telling him what went on in the galley. The sole reason Kevin is losing favor with Lee, is Kevin. 

[biakbiak]

27 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Of course it was producer shenanigans. Look the next day after the seafood debacle he finds  a drawerful of prawns? And the mahi mahi? Somebody so anal that he rehoused salt and pepper didn’t know he had that in the freezer? 

He had to get two dinner services out of the ingredients he had and that’s how he decided to break things up. 

[SweetieDarling]

12 hours ago, Barbara Please said:

Brandi was just plain weird...drunk, sober, kinda sober. I like how Courtney and Kate handled her, and helped avoid another exorcism. Her 'friends' seemed very apathetic to her. Why did they even invite her?

You mean to tell me that there was nothing else that Kevin could have whipped up for Captain Lee?  Kevin was so darn arrogant about it too. Then he gets butt hurt over it and sulks a the bar.

  I like how Kate handled the Tanner situation. She went about her business, washed her hair, got made up, and then walked into the galley all cool like.

Ashton gets extremely competitive when he's drunk. He's also not use to getting shut down, and Courtney did precisely that.  😀

Because she paid for everything! or so she claimed last episode 😉