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S09.E21: Reunion Part 3


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Kailyn announces the newest member of the Teen Mom 2 cast.

Jace’s dad, Andrew, makes an appearance for the first time since the first Teen Mom 2 Reunion.

Cole and Aubrey join Chelsea on stage.

Briana and her family discuss the future.

Airs June 3, 2019 at 9 PM

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18 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Andrew on the couch is so fucking awkward. He's 100% on drugs....or 100% off of ones he needs. I never like Drew, but when he called Andrew out on feeding the homeless, I about died. 

Really didn't like Barbara saying things are good for Kaiser on the land. Things have NEVER been good for Kaiser there. 

Props to Nathan for not calling Barb out right there for that bit of bullshit. "Things are cool on the land???" Why sell out Babs?

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39 minutes ago, chuckity said:

BA in Cinematic Arts at USC my ass.

In Los Angeles, California. He literally said that twice.  As if we were confusing it with the ... other Los Angeles? 🤣🤣

That kid does not seem right. 

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1 hour ago, woodscommaelle said:

In Los Angeles, California. He literally said that twice.  As if we were confusing it with the ... other Los Angeles? 🤣🤣

That kid does not seem right. 

I just came here to say the same thing!  Man, was he buzzed.  That was all so strange.  As @ghoulina said, yay to Dr. Drew (for once) for calling him out on his b.s.  If only there was more of that.

And yes, Barb was still in “make nice” mode with Jenelle, so her comments about David and about Jace on The Land were unfortunate.  

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Did Kail really tell Jade that she thought 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', when she learned Jade was being added to the show?  What a bitch.  I can't believe these girls haven't realized that even if the show does go on, gradually they will be replaced with younger girls.  They'll stagger the comings-and-goings of the cast so that viewers who are tuning in for the old women's stories will become interested in the young women's stories and won't quit watching the show when, say, Leah leaves.  Then they will be interested in Leah's replacement by the time Cate is shown the door.  And so on.  Unless it's straight up cancelled.  Either way, they are aging out of MTV's target demographic.  Do they really think they're such big shit that tomorrow's teens and young adults will be interested in watching them pick up the kids from soccer and bitch about things? 

As I was watching Kail 'host' the segment with Jade I had a horrifying thought.  Could Kail be the next Nessa?  Is it possible she could host some things for MTV?  Could MTV see her experience as a cast member as an asset and have her host the specials if the show goes on without them?  Please, no.  I can see it now, Kail asks a cast member a question, then vaguely relates what the person says to her life and talks about herself for 20 min.  Just like tonight.  Ask Jade about her mom, then they all talk over her, and each other, to talk about themselves.  We know!  We've watched it, it's old news.  Let someone else tell their story.  

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9 hours ago, woodscommaelle said:

In Los Angeles, California. He literally said that twice.  As if we were confusing it with the ... other Los Angeles? 🤣🤣

That kid does not seem right. 

I think he meant to clarify Los Angeles, instead of Columbia, SC, home of the University of South Carolina (USC). It's a popular university here 🙂

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I can't be the only one who found that Nathan speech about how Jenelle's boyfriends are all violent addicts a bit hypocritical...he has a rap sheet just as long as any of them, including at least two choking incidents from different girlfriends, and a long list of DUIs because he clearly was an alcoholic at one time at least with major anger issues (and probably used steroids and/or coke as well). He is probably a better fit for Kaiser because he at least has Doris, but let's not forget the only reason Nathan didn't have him full-time before was because he moved to pursue his bodybuilding dreams and also because HIS recent rap sheet made anything but supervised visits unadvisable. He also has a daughter he doesn't have custody of and was ordered not to be around for a time because of drinking issues.

Nathan isn't wrong, but you know the scenario is bleak when he's the only one making sense.

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Observations:

Barb saying Kaiser is doing well and everything is hunky dory in swamp land was surreal now that the kids have been taken away and we all know about David's violent behavior and murder of Nugget. Nathan was speechless when she said that...Nathan was surrounded by fools. 

Andrew: This guy was a model???? Really? for what? Some sleazy porn rag? He looks awful BTW...looks like he's strung out. And he wants us to believe that he went to USC???? What did he major in? Everything he says is a lie...Dr. Drew calling him out on his "feeding the homeless" bullshit was great. He's a loser and I suspect that he is trying to get back on the show and really has no interest in Jace...he needs the cash.

Chelsea and Cole: Enough about how perfect Cole is...we get it. 

Kailyn: I fear that MTV is grooming her for some kind of permanent position as an interviewer like Nessa. They seem to be going out of their way to give her more air time and also plugging her hair care line and promoting her podcast. If what I saw last night when she interviewed the new member of the cast, it will be a shit show...all she did was interrupt and then talk about herself and her relationship with her mother...as did Tyler and Catelyn. Ugh...I had to fast forward through that mess. She's very self involved and self absorbed...and move on from the Javi years. Trashing him on TV is not helpful to Lincoln. Be an adult and take some ownership in your failed relationships...and then STFU for the sake of your kids. 

What projects does Jenelle have going on besides her failed make up line....she'll need these so called "projects" to survive now that the MTV money has dried up.

Nessa: Oh God is she just awful...

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Andrew was a hot mess.

Nathan's shirt hurt my eyes.

I felt like Devoin was more upset that he disappointed Roxanne and Brittany, not that he made Briana angry. He seemed more apologetic towards them. 

Aubree was cute.

So does this mean that TM Young and Pregnant is canceled since Jade is joining TM2? Because there was also an article recently that said Lexi was fired or she quit. So Y&P would only have those other 3 girls? 

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11 hours ago, starfire said:

I got the feeling that Nathan wanted to smack Andrew.

He definitely seemed to be biting his tongue quite a bit. 

I'd want to smack Andrew just for coming out in that ridiculous, fur-lined, NASA coat. 

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15 hours ago, Emkat said:

Brittany is actually really pretty. 

I can't say I agree, and what is up with the asses on these people?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwNSU8_HZhJ/

Mainly, I want to know why Brittany doesn't have no health insurance.

I have to say, as annoying as it was to have "Devoin" pronounced as "DeVON," hearing it pronounced as it's spelled is actually worse.  Does this mean that Briana's pronouncing "Luis" as "LOO-iss" is also rogue?  Of course, I shouldn't be surprised because at some point Drew asked her how her own name is pronounced and she said she didn't know.  I can see not caring, but not knowing?

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8 hours ago, kicksave said:

Observations:

Barb saying Kaiser is doing well and everything is hunky dory in swamp land was surreal now that the kids have been taken away and we all know about David's violent behavior and murder of Nugget. Nathan was speechless when she said that...Nathan was surrounded by fools. 

Andrew: This guy was a model???? Really? for what? Some sleazy porn rag? He looks awful BTW...looks like he's strung out. And he wants us to believe that he went to USC???? What did he major in? Everything he says is a lie...Dr. Drew calling him out on his "feeding the homeless" bullshit was great. He's a loser and I suspect that he is trying to get back on the show and really has no interest in Jace...he needs the cash.

Chelsea and Cole: Enough about how perfect Cole is...we get it. 

Kailyn: I fear that MTV is grooming her for some kind of permanent position as an interviewer like Nessa. They seem to be going out of their way to give her more air time and also plugging her hair care line and promoting her podcast. If what I saw last night when she interviewed the new member of the cast, it will be a shit show...all she did was interrupt and then talk about herself and her relationship with her mother...as did Tyler and Catelyn. Ugh...I had to fast forward through that mess. She's very self involved and self absorbed...and move on from the Javi years. Trashing him on TV is not helpful to Lincoln. Be an adult and take some ownership in your failed relationships...and then STFU for the sake of your kids. 

What projects does Jenelle have going on besides her failed make up line....she'll need these so called "projects" to survive now that the MTV money has dried up.

Nessa: Oh God is she just awful...

Then they could brag about how Kail beat the odds and became an MTV host, as if she were a totally typical teen mom. Gag me!

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1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

Then they could brag about how Kail beat the odds and became an MTV host, as if she were a totally typical teen mom. Gag me!

You are so right about this.  We really need an eye roll reaction here.  The bar for an MTV host is not that high. 

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On 6/3/2019 at 9:43 PM, woodscommaelle said:

In Los Angeles, California. He literally said that twice.  As if we were confusing it with the ... other Los Angeles? 🤣🤣

That kid does not seem right. 

No, he wasn't.  And he has a weird slurry accent each time he said California.  But only when he said California.  

23 hours ago, eskimo said:

As I was watching Kail 'host' the segment with Jade I had a horrifying thought.  

As I was watching Kail host the segment I was trying to figure out who had done the makeup for Kail and her cohost whats-her-face Christley.  Why did they look like pumpkins? Could they not see that they are not that color normally? Like did they not notice the entire rest of their bodies being a different color than their faces? Caitlyn and Jade were normal colors, but not Kail and the cohost.  They were oddly colored.  

11 hours ago, MaggieG said:

I felt like Devoin was more upset that he disappointed Roxanne and Brittany, not that he made Briana angry. He seemed more apologetic towards them. 

That's because they are actually nice to him and they give a shit about him.  Briana doesn't give a fuck if he's there or not.  I liked that Roxanne called her out (this might have been in the unseen footage, I watched them back to back), for blowing off the guys and just relying on her mother and sister to raise her kids.  You can't keep hiking your skirt up in a club bathroom and getting knocked up by some rando, then popping the kid out, deciding not to "put them on child support" because you don't want to deal with them, and then make other people help you with your kids because "it's TOO hard!!!!" 

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This segment was really awkward and we probably could have done without it.  I thought it was kind of shitty for MTV to bring Andrew there when Jace was there and not tell anyone. Barba seemed surprised.  I could do withouth the viewers and audience asking them questions, it's all just silly answers anyways like "do you think it's unfair people don't see you as a real person".  We DO see the real them. They have been on for years and they are always the same. 

Yeah Nathan had no business trashing Jenelle's other exs.  He and Barb were both cringing hearing Andrew speak. I am unsure about how feeding the homeless connects to him getting his life together. You don't have to be an altruistic person to do that. You just have to not do drugs, show up in the right state when your kids guardian comes to meet you and not be weird. 

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I tried watching part 3 on demand since it said there was a new episode, but when I went to check, it was only part 1 and 2 which were up. Usually it comes on demand the next day.

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Did Andew first try to say that he fed the homeless that were in the hospital?  Don't hospitals do that?  Lol  He probably came out of a McDonald's once and saw a homeless person and gave them a cheeseburger.  Now he's providing humanitarian aid.  But he can't take care of the person he brought into the world.  Mmmkay.

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On 6/4/2019 at 12:40 AM, eskimo said:

As I was watching Kail 'host' the segment with Jade I had a horrifying thought.  Could Kail be the next Nessa?  Is it possible she could host some things for MTV?  

Honestly I think she'd do a way better job than Nessa.  Nessa has gotten better but I still think she's a terrible host. 

Andrew needs to provide those receipts if he wants anyone to believe he was a model.  He's probably kicking himself for not sticking around after Janelle's original episode.  Although he probably would have wasted all the money on drugs if he did stick around.

Jade looks like she's lost weight - good for her. Sad that her mom went to jail but not surprising. Probably the best for Jade to have her out of her hair for awhile. 

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1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Nessa's dumb as a box of rocks. I don't know how she's lasted this long.

I doubt that she's dumb. She graduated from Cal. However, in this business, dumb sells, and so that's what MTV is offering.

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1 hour ago, akr said:

I doubt that she's dumb. She graduated from Cal. However, in this business, dumb sells, and so that's what MTV is offering.

I don't think she's dumb, either, but I graduated from Cal and certainly met some real duds there...

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1 hour ago, akr said:

I doubt that she's dumb. She graduated from Cal. However, in this business, dumb sells, and so that's what MTV is offering.

Honestly, I don't put much weight in that. I know people who graduated from the Ivy League and they're complete morons. College isn't what it was twenty or thirty years ago. 

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I don't think Nessa's dumb. She's doing the job MTV wants her to do. After she pushed Jenelle about her posts about Colin K., MTV then had a screen inviting viewers to visit MTV's newest website about race. She had clearly been given the go-ahead by producers to bring up the subject with Jenelle. 

I say the same thing about Dr. Drew. He's not dumb. He is an out-of-touch famewhore who doesn't watch the show or keep up with the girls' social media the way we do, but he's not dumb. MTV doesn't want hosts who dig for the truth and ask the questions we would want to ask because a) it would upset the "talent," and b) it would reveal too much of MTV's fakery and ruin their carefully crafted storylines. 

All the hosts of reality TV season wrap ups have to behave the same way at the behest of producers. The host of 90 Day Fiance's tell alls does the same thing where she won't press the "talent" or ask them questions that fans truly want to know because the producers won't let her. The only one I've seen who does kind of push the cast members is Andy with the Real Housewives. But he started off as a producer, so that's different than the other shows that just hire random hosts.

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I think Nessa is dumb. She just does such a ham-handed job of posing questions. Every time I watch her, I feel like this is her first week on the job. She's always awkward and reaching. I cringed my way through that Unseen Moments episode. 

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I wouldn’t use dumb as the word to describe Nessa , she just comes off extremely phony and valley girl . I do cringe when she speaks sometimes but it’s mostly because she sounds like a girl having her first slumber party and the girls on the show do not have that sweet , valley girl mentality . They’re all nasty and rude and when she kisses their asses , it annoys viewers . 

Dr drew is the one who really annoys me though . He never lets anyone speak and cuts people off within 2 seconds of them starting their sentence . And he doesn’t seem to side with the people who are being rational . And one thing I really can’t stand and it’s the shows fault , not his , is that they still try to push the narrative that the show helps people and shows them the reality of being a teen parent . In what world Is their six figure salaries for sitting on a couch , a reality ? 

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On 6/4/2019 at 1:48 PM, Lm2162 said:

I can't be the only one who found that Nathan speech about how Jenelle's boyfriends are all violent addicts a bit hypocritical...

I thought he was finally showing some selfawareness and was including himself in that statement? Nathan's certainly had terrible, inexcusable behavior in the past, but I do think he's really grown up and matured a lot of late. Probably because he's had to. Thank God someone has for that sweet little angel munchkin. 👼

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On 6/4/2019 at 1:39 PM, ghoulina said:

I'd want to smack Andrew just for coming out in that ridiculous, fur-lined, NASA coat. 

Wtf was that? Trying to cover up as much as possible for “reasons” or a fashün lewk? He was a ~model~ you know. Does anyone know when this was filmed? If it wasn’t extremely cold I give even more side eye. And I’m sure the studio stage lights kept it plenty warm anyway.

On 6/5/2019 at 2:42 AM, IDreamofJoaquin said:

This segment was really awkward and we probably could have done without it.  I thought it was kind of shitty for MTV to bring Andrew there when Jace was there and not tell anyone. Barba seemed surprised.  

I thought it was extremely fucked up to spring him on her like that. She handled it well. If I were her I’d have screamed monkey and ran off stage. She’s never pulled anything like that and most of the rest of them have, for far, far less. I wonder if Jace saw or heard anything about that and how he might feel later on learning his “dad” was right there if he didn’t know that day.

On 6/6/2019 at 5:08 PM, Jaclyn88 said:

I wouldn’t use dumb as the word to describe Nessa , she just comes off extremely phony and valley girl . I do cringe when she speaks sometimes but it’s mostly because she sounds like a girl having her first slumber party and the girls on the show do not have that sweet , valley girl mentality . They’re all nasty and rude and when she kisses their asses , it annoys viewers . 

Dr drew is the one who really annoys me though . He never lets anyone speak and cuts people off within 2 seconds of them starting their sentence . And he doesn’t seem to side with the people who are being rational . And one thing I really can’t stand and it’s the shows fault , not his , is that they still try to push the narrative that the show helps people and shows them the reality of being a teen parent . In what world Is their six figure salaries for sitting on a couch , a reality ? 

That’s exactly how I’d describe Nessa and is what bothers me about her. After someone here said awhile ago that she went UC-Berkeley I read up on her and was surprised to learn she doesn’t come across dumb in other capacities. So I guess it is for the show. 

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I totally agree about Drew! I really can’t stand him and he sucks at doing this show. He never calls anyone out but then decides that Andrew saying he gave homeless people food is a sticking point? Wtf? We all know Andrew has screws loose and is a liar, don’t really need it spelled out. And meanwhile he scarcely has done anything like that to the actual cast, over serious issues, in the last 8 years or whatever it’s been. He picked apart the weakest link...congrats?

That’s Nathan down there..I accidentally hit it and I can’t delete it! 😆 

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On 6/7/2019 at 4:19 AM, Psycho Suzy said:

I thought he was finally showing some selfawareness and was including himself in that statement? Nathan's certainly had terrible, inexcusable behavior in the past, but I do think he's really grown up and matured a lot of late. Probably because he's had to. Thank God someone has for that sweet little angel munchkin. 👼

I kind of thought that too...he did say ALL of Jenelle’s exes...I actually thought he might mention himself directly when he was listing them off. BUT, I may have had a heart attack had he shown that much self-awareness. He HAS to recognize it, right? Who am I kidding? He very well might not have even made the connection. He procreated with Jenelle, after all. His critical thinking skills ain’t that well.

He did nail this, that one time, though (while drinking...): 

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/jenelle-evans-fiance-nathan-griffith-youre-trailer-trash-teen-mom-2-sneak-peek-2015138/?jwsource=cl

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On 6/7/2019 at 5:19 AM, Psycho Suzy said:

I thought he was finally showing some selfawareness and was including himself in that statement? Nathan's certainly had terrible, inexcusable behavior in the past, but I do think he's really grown up and matured a lot of late. Probably because he's had to. Thank God someone has for that sweet little angel munchkin. 👼

Maybe- I was waiting for him to list himself in that list of "violent and addicted exes," but he never did, just everybody else. I think he's still got that ego on him. Doris is a good influence, though (even though he treated her horribly in that special). 

I don't think Nessa is a good host, but she doesn't seem stupid to me--she has a B.A. from Berkeley, she can't be that dim. Just very awkward. She was more articulate talking about systemic violence and police brutality than she ever is talking to the cast members. Then, when she was expected to get back into her host role, she seemed like an airhead again. Maybe it's a role she plays and isn't very good at it?

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On 6/6/2019 at 12:25 AM, Vandy10 said:

I don't think Nessa's dumb. She's doing the job MTV wants her to do. After she pushed Jenelle about her posts about Colin K., MTV then had a screen inviting viewers to visit MTV's newest website about race. She had clearly been given the go-ahead by producers to bring up the subject with Jenelle. 

This! It was clearly a thing they WANTED her to bring up. Dr. Drew sat there completely nonplussed, and it was obviously very planned. All the questions are scripted; so was Nessa's statement. They wanted to distance themselves as much from the David-esque crowd as possible, and she was their vehicle for doing so. She was not going off script by any means.

Why Jenelle's followers think she could just randomly pick a time to go rogue and MTV would air it is beyond me. Jenelle represents herself, Nessa represents MTV. She's doing what they want. The producers knew Jenelle was about to be fired and wanted to use the last time she was on stage to make a statement about their lack of support for David's racist/bigoted views.

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9 hours ago, TheRealT said:

I FFed through at least half of it, but, wow, this was bad. There was absolutely no reason to make the reunion a 3-parter. Is the unseen moments show worth watching at all?

In my opinion, no. Actually, hell no. I could barely pay attention and did a bunch during it. The scenes were good on the cutting room floor. 

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