S09.E04: Bahama Drama

[Callaphera]

For a good time shit disturbing time, call:
Lisa Rinna
Professional Pot Stirrer
1-800-55-MESSY

Are Lisa Vanderpump's dogs sedated whenever they're on camera? All I could hear was yapping on the phone but whenever the fluffy ankle-biters are on camera, they're so sedate that I wonder if they're alive or stuffed. 

Drink whenever there's a Charlie Sheen reference! It seems fitting.

Edited March 6, 2019 by Callaphera

[ShawnaLanne]

2 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Lol that was a huge gap in those text messages kinda like some of the conversation was deleted ...... 

If it was and Teddie has the entire thread on her phone I will be just as happy.

Edited March 6, 2019 by ShawnaLanne

[howivesforever]

1 minute ago, ShawnaLanne said:

If it was and Teddie has the entire thread on her phone I will be just as happy.

I think the gap is so large because they made the messages so big to print them. Either way Teddi spent the whole episode making herself the victim when she was an accomplice. I don’t really think Lisa set this up but even if she did Dorit is such a shitty person I don’t care. The fact the other women could care less about that poor dog is very telling how much this is only about icing Lisa out.

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

If it was and Teddie has the entire thread on her phone I will be just as happy.

Right how convenient that the text of Lisa told me to tell you wasn't in that "print out" yet it was on Teddies phone lol 

[Door County Cherry]

2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Lol that was a huge gap in those text messages kinda like some of the conversation was deleted ...... 

I know. I don't think they have enough evidence that that LVP 100% set this up.  But I also don't think LVP and Ken 100% have proof that she didn't.  

And Dorit is being given a free pass for giving away a dog to a stranger.  Do none of these people understand how rescues work?  There's a reason rescues have strict rules and if that's where you want to get your pet, you should be ready to agree to their rules.  She can claim she knew the woman because she works with a man who PK works with but that doesn't mean she'd be a good pet owner.  Rescues do vetting.  "She's a colleague of a colleague" isn't thorough vetting.

[njbchlover]

Wow....let's see how all of this is going to be spun around for the next 12 weeks or so - I don't know - how long is the season??  Good on Ken for getting the rest of the text thread from the "source" and printing out everything.  I was kind of suspicious when Teddi showed just two of the texts, when you know there had to be more in the thread.

And, seriously - Dorit walking into that dinner like she had just had some devastating news -- she really was playing for sympathy.

So nice of Camille to be the one voice of reason in regards to Lucygate, but more importantly, in regards to the entire situation.  "All the women have done things to other women, and we learned to get past it" - she's right!!

Teddi - get the fuck over yourself - you're not completely innocent here (as we learned in the last two minutes of the show).  I didn't like Teddi last season, and I'm still not liking her.

Erika, too - she's loving fanning the flames with Teddi - talk about a sniper from the side!  (And, did Tom even know who he was talking to??)

Seriously, I love Kyle and Mauricio's relationship!!  

Lastly - and I cannot say it enough - Lisa Rinna is a fucking shit-stirring bitch!!  It's so sad because she is so blatant about it, and seems to revel in it! 

Edited March 6, 2019 by njbchlover

[mwell345]

Teddi’s blog is up. 

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/season-9/blogs/teddi-mellencamp-arroyave/teddi-1

She’s getting ripped apart on Twitter, too.

[langford peel]

Don’t these idiots realize that Dorito is totally at fault and the Teddy stuff is manufactured bullshit.

Camille is one smart cookie. She put her finger on it.

Denise is also very perceptive and her Spidey sense is right on the money.

Edited March 6, 2019 by langford peel

[msblossom]

Wait a minute, so Teddi and John were texting and Teddi arranged to ask “Isthat the dog?” on camera to put Doritos on blast?

Ken’s thread of texts are suspicious. 

[enchantingmonkey]

Are they talking about anything else besides this doggie drama?  I think LVP was just doing what the show pays her to do and tried to get a storyline going for the season, and then Teddi decided to she needed to be the victim in the whole scheme and blow it all up in LVP's face.  

Honestly, I feel bad for LVP because the sloppiness of it all makes me think she's either distracted from the stress of her brother's suicide, or she's just tired of trying to give them a storyline, and now they're all turning on her.  I suspect Kyle turning on her hurts the most, though, as they seem to have a genuine friendship.  

Edited March 6, 2019 by enchantingmonkey

[Lady of nod]

So the same Rhinna who accused Dorit of doing coke in her home with her children there and thought that was an ok thing to say, is now outraged about who  said Dorit returned the dog. And they all jump on the bandwagon.

[Dance4Life]

Ken acting like the Accountability Coach with the texts printouts.

Hahahahahahahah! 

I guess Teddi was pissed off when she found out and now regrets opening her mouth.  

This is because Lipsa would not drop it.  Now, Teddi is going to get exposed.

Dorit  was embarrassed and wanted it all to  go away.....but, she ate up the ‘I am a victim’ pie just fine.

Now they are dragging it out another week.

Absolutely nothing happened this episode. 

I tend to ignore their weak LVP Takedown attempts. 

LVP is like Jesus.  She resurrects every Tuesday at 8:00 pm.

[AttackTurtle]

Dorit was terribly upset about Lisa.....not the woman who confronted her that day about Dorit and PK defrauding her of hundreds of thousands of dollars???? I’m sure all of her dear friends (Erika who wanted to filet you for pantygate/and Rinna who called you a cokehead on national t.v.) spent as much time comforting her about her money issues as they did about her horrible friend Lisa Vanderpump (the one who stood up for you against Erika and Rinna).  

Andy better bring up all the goods at the reunion.  

Edited March 6, 2019 by AttackTurtle

[Steph J]

52 minutes ago, sunshine23 said:

2. If Kyle expected the rest of the women to have dropped the topic of "Kim" during that season, why doesn't she respect Lisa's request to drop the "Dorit" issue?

Because Kyle thinks that her relationship with Kim is the exception to every rule.

I liked how when Camille said that every woman has lashed out at everyone else (or words to that effect) the editors only showed clips of the other women going after Camille and not the other way around. I've thoroughly enjoyed Camille since she came back, but I still remember season 1 Camille and she was just as bad as any of 'em.

[nexxie]

LVP groomed the newbie with her pet name, Teddi Bear, and the shared interest in horses, the same way she groomed Brandi - and then set her up to do dirty work.

Can’t wait to see the missing texts Teddi tweeted about.

[Keywestclubkid]

Just now, Steph J said:

Because Kyle thinks that her relationship with Kim is the exception to every rule.

I liked how when Camille said that every woman has lashed out at everyone else (or words to that effect) the editors only showed clips of the other women going after Camille and not the other way around. I've thoroughly enjoyed Camille since she came back, but I still remember season 1 Camille and she was just as bad as any of 'em.

It would have made more sense if Camille said I used to be horrible and look I've changed and you guys forgave me just like I did with you .... that flash back was definitely one sided all they have to play ever is that dinner party from hell to show just what a mean girl Camille used to be 

[langford peel]

Lisa needs to keep walking right off the show. 

Unless they get rid of Dorito, Erica and Rinna and start over.

I understand that she doesn’t film with them for most of the season. Let’s see what these no account bitches bring to the table.

[howivesforever]

1 minute ago, nexxie said:

LVP groomed the newbie with her pet name, Teddi Bear, and the shared interest in horses, the same way she groomed Brandi - and then set her up to do dirty work.

Can’t wait to see the missing texts Teddi tweeted about.

The thing is no matter what they all will look like complete assholes to the majority of the people watching the show because they decided to gang up on her right after her brother’s suicide.

[njbchlover]

10 minutes ago, mwell345 said:

Teddi’s blog is up. 

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/season-9/blogs/teddi-mellencamp-arroyave/teddi-1

She’s getting ripped apart on Twitter, too.

So, according to the texts in this blog, Teddi asks John Blizzard "Didn't Lisa tell you to tell me?" to which, John Blizzard replies "YES".  So, how do we know that John Blizzard wasn't so pissed off at Dorit that he lied to Teddi about LVP - just to get the dirt out there that Dorit did a shitty thing?

Maybe Teddi wasn't set up by LVP - maybe she was set up by John Blizzard and John Sessa?  

And, because it cannot be said enough - If Dorit had just fucking done the correct thing and contact LVP, or someone from Vanderpump Dogs about Lucy, NONE of this would have happened in the first place!  

I'm still wondering what the heck happened with both of the dogs - I cannot imagine that Vanderpump Dogs or any other rescue, for that matter, would give dogs that are not good with families to a family with small children.  I'd like to hear more about that part of the story, and find out if Madison and Lucy are now in happy homes and doing well.

Fuck the rest of these bitches (the human ones....)!!!   

Edited March 6, 2019 by njbchlover

[msblossom]

Teddi is gross for being an instigator and planning this nonsense for tv. However, Dorit was still wrong for giving the dog away instead of talking to Lisa and bringing the dog back to her. 

[howivesforever]

Just now, njbchlover said:

So, according to the texts in this blog, Teddi asks John Blizzard "Didn't Lisa tell you to tell me?" to which, John Blizzard replies "YES".  So, how do we know that John Blizzard was pissed off at Dorit enough to lie to Teddi about LVP - just to get the dirt out there that Dorit did a shitty thing?

Maybe Teddi wasn't set up by LVP - maybe she was set up by John Blizzard and John Sessa?  

Then it was a yes and right after idk

[Dance4Life]

9 minutes ago, howivesforever said:

I think the gap is so large because they made the messages so big to print them. Either way Teddi spent the whole episode making herself the victim when she was an accomplice. I don’t really think Lisa set this up but even if she did Dorit is such a shitty person I don’t care. The fact the other women could care less about that poor dog is very telling how much this is only about icing Lisa out.

My text on my phone is large.  When you print from iPhone you have to change the text (to small)  before printing or else it comes out huge.

You are supposed to print the time stamp as well.  

(helps determine if some of the text convo was deleted)

I was trying to read the phone but then I heard Ken say....then 2 other messages....and, he kept reading from below.

We will see next week.....if Teddi is a fraud.

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, howivesforever said:

The thing is no matter what they all will look like complete assholes to the majority of the people watching the show because they decided to gang up on her right after her brother’s suicide.

Her brothers death has no baring on anything that Lisa has done tho she can't use that has a shield.I'm sorry she was doing shitty things like this before she shouldn't get a pass because her brother died. one has nothing to do with the other in this situation ..... you don't stir up shit and go oh no cant retaliate or have a problem with me cause death its not a get out of jail free card 

Edited March 6, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[nexxie]

I feel bad for Teddi - manipulators like LVP are expert at getting people to do things, and keeping their own hands clean. 

[charming]

Dorit changes her story again. On WWHL she said that LVP knew she was giving the dog away. However on the boat she said she told LVP the day after.

The fact that these desperate thirstbots care more about "nailing" LVP instead of caring that Dorit was irresponsible says it all. 

I cannot deal with Lisa Rinna and her soap opera over the top "moments". She acted like the puppy ripped off the limbs of the entire Kemsley household. YOU HAD TO PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN FROM CUJO! THEY COULD HAVE DIED!  All she needed was a fainting couch. Shut up you unpleasant hag. 

Like it or not LVP is the main anchor of the show with a loyal fanbase.  The more they attack her and try to ice her out the more they'll get dragged. Might even be putting their own employment on the line. 

[howivesforever]

Just now, Dance4Life said:

My text on my phone is large.  When you print from iPhone you have to change the text (to small)  before printing or else it comes out huge.

You are supposed to print the time stamp as well.  

(helps determine if some of the text convo was deleted)

I was trying to read the phone but then I heard Ken say....then 2 other messages....and, he kept reading from below.

We will see next week.....if Teddi is a fraud.

I think by her not being forthcoming that she and John setup for the dog to be there and for her to ask is that the dog not once but twice (she asked her child to) proves she’s a fraud. Nobody can force anyone to do something they don’t want and she chose to talk about it because she knows Dorit is a shitty person. She needs to take “accountability” for her actions and stop the poor me Lisa made me bs.

[suzyq8017]

This argument is soooooooo boring. But I am enjoying how this forum is split down the middle. 

[breezy424]

Well.  I continue in my seat on the other side of the pool, holding a ball hoping that Bambi shows up.  Heck.  I'll even throw the ball to Lucy.

Dorit didn't return the dog to VPP.  She was wrong.  LVP tells Dorit that she moved on.  BS on that.  Allegedly, LVP tells Blizzard to let Teddi know about the dog.  He calls Teddi and they follow up with texts in which he says that LVP is behind this.  Yes, Teddi is sort of an accomplice but not the initiator. 

All six of them are involved with all of this:  LVP, Dorit, Teddi, the Johns and Ken.  All in varying degrees.  Teddi 'did' get played and was used in it all.  I still like Teddi.  I can understand her anger.

In the end, LVP does what she does very often.  She holds a grudge, she manipulates and #Adriene Maloof, she stirs the pot.

But whatever, I know I'm in the minority so....

[nexxie]

6 minutes ago, howivesforever said:

The thing is no matter what they all will look like complete assholes to the majority of the people watching the show because they decided to gang up on her right after her brother’s suicide.

Viewers have seen LVP play the victim card many times before.

[Chit Chat]

10 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

So, how do we know that John Blizzard wasn't so pissed off at Dorit that he lied to Teddi about LVP - just to get the dirt out there that Dorit did a shitty thing?

Exactly! That's what I was screaming at my screen during the show!  They are so quick to ASSume the worst of LVP, but not a one of them stops to think that maybe John Blizzard conveniently let LVP take the fall for something he wanted out there?  These women are the worst, especially them fawning all over "poor Dorit."  Poor Dorit, my ass.  Then there's Rinna's obvious Joker face when she sees that they're piling on with LVP.  She's actually the worst.  Ugh. 

[langford peel]

Lisa is not a victim.

She is the heart and soul of this show.

Dorito is a soulless grifter who is being chased by irate creditors as if she were Frankenstein and the creditors were villagers with torches and pitchforks.

You know what? Looking at Doritos horrible plastic surgery the Frankenstein thing sort of fits like a glove.

[renatae]

These women are making me so angry, I'm about to spit nails. After John Sessa goes on record saying his actions were his own (and chides Lisa when she says she wants it to not be such an issue,) Teddi says John Blizzard told her Lisa wanted this out. If this is true, why did she not get upset until she thought people were talking about her and Rinna put a bug in her ear?

Also, Rinna and Erica knew nothing about that, but that didn't keep them from insisting LVP started it all as though they had the receipts.

Then they are acting like Lisa left the table because she was feeling ignored. Seriously? She left because you are a bunch of vixen, with the exception of Camille.

I'm going to have to give up on this if they don't stop being such biotches. It's making my BP go up.

[charming]

The issue for me is none of these women are innocent in "manipulation" or getting other people to do their dirty work. If you're going to rage about how LVP gets people to do her dirty work you better have clean hands yourself.

Adrienne had her chef talk shit about LVP on and off camera and later her husband as they were getting divorced.

Camille had her friend DeeDee and the Medium there for backup to attack Kyle. As well as Kyle bringing Faye around to fight with Camille & Brandi.

Yolanda and Brandi tried to recruit Joyce to go after LVP which she didn't go for, instead she told LVP what they said.

Yolanda had Erika go after LVP her first season when she hadn't even had any interaction with her. 

Eileen totally manipulated Rinna into believing she was a victim.

Rinna used Eden by taking her shopping and telling her Kim Richards was on the verge of death and she better talk to Kyle about.

Rinna is totally stirring the pot with Dorit on the boat while Erika was pumping up Teddi. 

That's just off the top of my head. 

They all do it. They all understand they're shooting a reality show and have to "bring it" and some are better than others.

[esco1822]

Rinna is trying a little too hard to bring LVP to justice. Something is up. She has an agenda and these ladies need to wake up about it. Rinna: “Lisa...don’t go....” Please. 

[Keywestclubkid]

6 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

Exactly! That's what I was screaming at my screen during the show!  They are so quick to ASSume the worst of LVP, but not a one of them stops to think that maybe John Blizzard conveniently let LVP take the fall for something he wanted out there?  These women are the worst, especially them fawning all over "poor Dorit."  Poor Dorit, my ass.  Then there's Rinna's obvious Joker face when she sees that they're piling on with LVP.  She's actually the worst.  Ugh. 

IF he lied why is he still working for her? Why would you continue a partnership with someone who tells lies about you to your friends? Who uses your name to start rumors? You could never trust that person in business. Look how fast she dumped her ex gay bestie that lived with her for lying. Yet she would keep this guy around?  He didn’t lie she knew 

Edited March 6, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[hoosier80]

Wait a minute. If Teddi asked did Lisa tell you to tell me about the dog (Juicy Lucy or whatever ridiculous name the poor puppy was given), that would have been after someone said oh wait - LVP is trying to set you up.  That was way after the seeing the puppy at Vanderpump Dogs.  

And if you're doing some diabolical plan, no way are you putting shit in writing, no matter if you consider him to be a good friend; he still works for the person you're supposedly trying to take down.

I call BS.  LVP is a massive fraud, and manipulator.  She was pissed at Dorit, with good reason.  Just be direct and say that was a shitty and irresponsible thing you did.  But she cannot.  PK, Lisa, and Ken were all buds back in the UK.  They know old secrets that I bet neither party wants to come out.   LVP doesn't want to piss off PK, but she wanted to get back at Dorit.  I am betting she's pissed that Teddi is now buds with Kyle.  LVP always seems to have one BFF/toadie per season, and probably figured she'd have Teddi at her disposal.  Didn't happen.  Plus, Teddi and Dorit have a history of bickering, so Teddi was the most likely one to try and pin the 'gossiping' on re: Puppygate.  

And the way I saw it, Teddi was genuinely pissed at LVP.  She's not that good of an actress to just act that pissed.  When LVP is confronted, she always runs away.  She was in Puerto Rico, got pissed off about heaven knows what (we actually saw her smoking dahhhling), and she took off back to the states.  Clearly used to being HBIC and doesn't like it if she's not.

Too bad she blew it.  Dorit needed to be called out for her nonsense.

[ivygirl]

32 minutes ago, mwell345 said:

Teddi’s blog is up. 

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-9/season-9/blogs/teddi-mellencamp-arroyave/teddi-1

She’s getting ripped apart on Twitter, too.

Oh no. Is she going to tweet out another photo of her kids and tell people that they shouldn’t call her out on her stuff because she’s a nice person?

[Rosiejuliemom]

33 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I was kind of suspicious when Teddi showed just two of the texts, when you know there had to be more in the thread.

FWIW, John Blizzard is claiming on Twitter that the text exchange on Teddi's phone was edited.

[Otherkate]

Rinna needs to call her acting coach - she was way overselling her bit during dinner. 

Kyle was like a...I'm so sorry sorry...a dog with a bone trying to get Lisa to talk about the situation during the day. 

Teddi was so annoying during that dinner with her face. Disagreement or no, if someone was staring at me across a table the way that she was at Lisa, there would be two possible scenarios:

1 - I get up and leave or 2 - I pull a Giudice table flip. 

I think Lisa picked the better option.

There is 1 too many Johns in this doggygate story.

Edited March 6, 2019 by Otherkate

[charming]

6 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

Rinna is trying a little too hard to bring LVP to justice. Something is up. She has an agenda and these ladies need to wake up about it. Rinna: “Lisa...don’t go....” Please. 

Yeah they wanted her to stay so they could keep talking about how she's a lying manipulator who victimized Dorit and Teddi. 

So fake.

[AttackTurtle]

I watch this show for LVP.  Is she perfect?  No.  But we’ve watched time and time again as she’s stood up for people on this show and we rarely see anyone return the favor (cough Kyle).  The best revenge she could inflict is for her to leave the show.   Kyle can bring house porn but not much else.  Erika and her glam squad gets old real quick (she’s a stealth bitch).  Rinna has no story if she’s not butting heads with LVP.  Dorit may not even have a house by next season.  

I do like Denise Richards.

Bring on NY.  They can have drag out fights and be fine a day later.  

Edited March 6, 2019 by AttackTurtle

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

FWIW, John Blizzard is claiming on Twitter that the text exchange on Teddi's phone was edited.

Lol you can’t edit a text message from someone else on the iPhone. you can delete messages you can edit your messages but you can’t edit someone’s incoming messages to you. You can’t add words they didn’t send lol 

[njbchlover]

27 minutes ago, howivesforever said:

Then it was a yes and right after idk

I think the "idk" was a reply to Teddi's text "Will she be with us on Thursday?" - sometimes that happens on my phone as well - the response to my reply question will appear above my text with the question.  Especially if you're texting back and forth quickly.

[Otherkate]

I've never been the biggest LVP fan, but if she ends up with a Vanderpump Dogs show starring 2 shitstirring Johns and a dim Raquel with guest star appearances by James Kennedy while the rest of these women stew, I swear to you all here that I will laugh forever. 

[esco1822]

4 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

39 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

FWIW, John Blizzard is claiming on Twitter that the text exchange on Teddi's phone was edited.

I have no doubt about that. It was a screenshot cropped to reveal 2 lines of a text conversation. If she had nothing to hide, why crop it? Or why screenshot in the first place if you have the entire conversation on your phone? “Lisa wanted me to know” could have been about anything. I want some context of what preceded that comment before I condemn LVP.

[Marley]

Yes Camille is speaking the truth. 

So Dorit returned one dog and then didn’t return the 2nd? That is weird. There must be something else going on. She goes on to say that she didn’t tell Lisa right away but I think she’s changing her story now in real time.

Also I’m just gonna say again I don’t give a fuck if LVP is being sneaky and talking about Dorit and the dog. Maybe she is but what Dorit did is fucked. Everyone should be talking about it. All these idiots are getting hung up on the wrong thing.

Watching these ladies all comfort each other over some bs is embarrassing.

Lisa Rinna needs to shut the fuck up about Dorit protecting her kids. Dorit and PK are disgusting fake losers. Her kids were fucking fine. Maybe she needs to teach her kids how to properly behave with dogs.

Teddi acting all sad all episode when she had a part in this is weird. It’s like she changed her mind halfway thru and now wants to switch sides or something it’s really weird. You think if she was involved a bit she would’ve shut up and tried to change the subject lol. Lisa probably is a sneaky bitch but Dorit is the worst so shut the hell up Teddi. Her blog sucks too.

Edited March 6, 2019 by Marley

[CrinkleCutCat]

The need to create drama, anything watchable for tv, or specifically the drama with Lisa again was so obvious! How many times could they bring up about how nice their day/trip had been?! Round and round the table waiting waiting waiting for someone, anyone, to take the bait and actually say “no... I have not had a nice time, because...”

Edited March 6, 2019 by CrinkleCutCat
Extra words

[Kiki777]

This fight is already reminding me of the 'epic' Bethenny vs Carole conflict: long, drawn-out and so boring that the only thing that could have saved the episode would be a massive group attack of Vacation Diarrhea.

Well at least we got the adorable baby flamingoes...

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Lol you can’t edit a text message from someone else on the iPhone. you can delete messages you can edit your messages but you can’t edit someone’s incoming messages to you. You can’t add words they didn’t send lol 

Can you edit a screenshot?

That's what Teddi showed, not the original messages.

He's not claiming any words were added.

[Keywestclubkid]

Just now, Rosiejuliemom said:

Can you edit a screenshot?

That's what Teddi showed, not the original messages.

He's not claiming any words were added.

No because the colors and text would look different.