S07.E11: Return of Crazy Kristen

[politichick]

Kristen was surprisingly thoughtful and measured on WWHL last night--the polar opposite of how she behaves on VPR. She needs to get over her Lisa/James fetish because it is making her crazy. While I agree that Lisa likes the money James brings in with his DJing, I also think she genuinely cares about him. She also probably deeply admires the way he's stepped up to help his money-strapped family. I really, really hope he stays on the straight and narrow in terms of the drinking. He was so funny when Schwartz asked him if he wanted a drink and he says, "Yes, I do, but I'm not going to." And when he said how happy he was to have been invited to the staycation. I like James. Can't help it.

Don't get the comparisons to Carter and Lala sponging off of their partners. Randall is a millionaire, so there is absolutely no reason for her to pay for anything except gifts for him and her own personal stuff. And while Kristen likely makes more money than Carter, he absolutely should be contributing to the household. Did he used to work on boats or something? Wonder how he felt hearing that shit about him on national TV last night.

Jax is a fool. While I agree it was better to let the girls know there were "hoes at the hotel," before they heard about it after the fact, it's like he had to narc on himself because he finds it so difficult to be with other women he's not fucking or flirting with. What a tool.

If I were Sandofal and had his passion and skills for drinks, I'd have brought my cocktail kit, too.

[nexxie]

Was being wing-man so he could hang out with women in a hotel room part of Sandoval’s loooong break up storyline?

[heatherchandler]

32 minutes ago, politichick said:

Don't get the comparisons to Carter and Lala sponging off of their partners. Randall is a millionaire, so there is absolutely no reason for her to pay for anything except gifts for him and her own personal stuff. And while Kristen likely makes more money than Carter, he absolutely should be contributing to the household. Did he used to work on boats or something? Wonder how he felt hearing that shit about him on national TV last night.

That was Aleks (from Below Deck), a guy she was dating for a little bit a few seasons ago.  I don't know what Carter does...  Maybe she should find Aleks - he is good looking and seems to have career goals.

[esco1822]

I'll go sit in a corner by myself because I actually think Jax calling Brit was a sign of the tiniest amount of growth. Given her reaction his jokes about bringing girls back to the room, i'm sure she would have been pissed to find out after the fact that this exact scenario actually took place. Knowing he's being filmed and his significant other will eventually see his behavior has never stopped his bad behavior before so I appreciated him actually expressing concern. He probably could have just gone to his own room (I assume he had one too) but if the point was to hang out with the guys, I get why he didn't do that. I thought the FaceTime was cute and I think Jax also somewhat seeks Stassi's approval on him becoming a changed man even if that's for selfish reasons like Stassi being a total nightmare when you piss her off. 

[bichonblitz]

55 minutes ago, politichick said:

If I were Sandofal and had his passion and skills for drinks, I'd have brought my cocktail kit, too.

He should try to parlay his passion for making unique drinks in to a money making situation like Bethenny Frankel did with her god awful Skinny Girl drinks. He's good at it and his cocktails look to be a lot more creative and delicious than hers ever were. 

[JenE4]

After seeing the preview of Kristin falling over the ottoman a half dozen times, I missed the scene when it actually happened. I gathered that Carter texted Kristin and told her that James was there. Was that the gist of it? Kristin read the text and then suddenly acted like a bird that accidentally flew inside a building—so distraught and discombobulated that she’s flying into windows/ottomans? I picture her just running straight through a breakaway wall.

[CharethCutestory]

100% the only reason Jax was freaking out was because cameras were there and it was transparent. as. hell. He's the worst actor on the planet. Beaux kind of latched onto Jax's ridiculousness for some reason, but I think it was just to play along. The theatrics were so OTT. Just don't do anything, simple. Or take a ten minute uber ride back to your apartment. If you're committed to your partner you won't have a red faced sweaty panic attack the second some strange comes within twenty  feet of your dick, JAX. That guy will cheat again if he hasn't already, bank on it. I'm done feeling sorry for Brittany. She's willfully dumb and will do anything to stay on the show. Whatever, her choice, but she's a fool.

Carter lives three years in the shadows of this show and the moment he's brought into the light he's thrown in front of a double decker bus. That was a swift execution. Carter, you can exit stage left and join Mike Shay now. He sounds like a scrub but Kristin is insane so I'm not surprised a mooch with ulterior motives glommed onto her. No healthy, well adjusted man with self respect would. He could indeed be a loser, but coming from the witches of WeHo and their coven of suck I think it's all relative and varying degrees of assholery. Even the already sainted Beaux. He seems nice and the most normal but given the company he keeps, you have to wonder. 

Lisa will never view Kristin the way she views James. And Kristin lacks the maturity to get her shit together and go to Lisa and clear the air and apologize like Stassi did to get back into her good graces. Lisa views James as a surrogate son, she's known the kid his whole life, she'll always look out for him. Kristin made a scene at every VPR event and then (not to say James didn't play a role, he did) she messed with James which is akin to messing with her family.  If I were Kristin I'd have more of a gripe over Jax being given chance after chance. 

I think a big reason why Kristin behaves the way she does is low self esteem and an inability to heal her bruised ego. It's that old adage until you love yourself nobody else will. She's not innocent by any means when it comes to the situations she's found herself in with Sandoval and then James, but both ended up in a better spot than she did when things ended and it's obvious this eats away at her. They moved on from her, she didn't move on from them. She transferred all of her ire for Sandoval to James when the relationship with James ended. Stassi is full of it that she doesn't care about James. It may not be all of her problem but it's a large part. She needs therapy, mood stabilizers and to stay away from alcohol or else she'll be 40 years old and the same way which would be pathetic. See: Jax. 

[nexxie]

1 hour ago, esco1822 said:

I'll go sit in a corner by myself because I actually think Jax calling Brit was a sign of the tiniest amount of growth. Given her reaction his jokes about bringing girls back to the room, i'm sure she would have been pissed to find out after the fact that this exact scenario actually took place. Knowing he's being filmed and his significant other will eventually see his behavior has never stopped his bad behavior before so I appreciated him actually expressing concern. He probably could have just gone to his own room (I assume he had one too) but if the point was to hang out with the guys, I get why he didn't do that. I thought the FaceTime was cute and I think Jax also somewhat seeks Stassi's approval on him becoming a changed man even if that's for selfish reasons like Stassi being a total nightmare when you piss her off. 

It could show a little growth, and I hope Jax is able to be a good and loyal husband - but it really is a crapshoot on Brittany’s part.

[Drogo]

Katie:  "Carter your girlfriend is such an embarrassment."

Also Katie:  "Carter is the problem."

[Mr. Miner]

1 hour ago, politichick said:

"Yes, I do, but I'm not going to." And when he said how happy he was to have been invited to the staycation. I like James. Can't help it.

James might not be drinking but I bet he's wearing out the weed and maybe other stuff. nttawwt!

[Kiki777]

2 hours ago, politichick said:

Kristen was surprisingly thoughtful and measured on WWHL last night--the polar opposite of how she behaves on VPR.

On a shallow note, I gotta add that she also looked very pretty, probably the best I'd ever seen her look.  I'm not a fan of hers but felt so sad as she mentioned her uncertainty about her relationship and you could see tears well up but she didn't cry.  The girl has shown personal growth but is still a mess.

[Neeners]

I have a hard time believing James does that signature masturbating cocktail move sober. At least I hope not. He's gotta be on *something*. Doesn't he? Who would do that sober? Seriously.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I guess they were safe because the filming crew was there (and the woman hanging out with Sandoval on the balcony looked right at the camera), but I really hope most groups of three women would not go to a hotel room with seven men. 

[WhosThatGirl]

I can’t like James. He has said too many awful things and all that. It bothers me so much that I’m just supposed to like him because he supports his family and is sometimes funny. He still views certain women as horrible based on their looks and judges them so. A few little factoids doesn’t negate that.

That said I agree that Kristen needs to move in from it but I kind of get why she’s upset that he’s constantly forgiven and she isn’t. I also disagree with another poster about her being able to talk to Lisa. Lisa will never let that happen. Lisa really hates her. And I know Stassi had that scene where she ambushed her with an apology but I very much doubt that Lisa didn’t know that was happening, Lisa is a producer on the show, she would never let herself be amsuhed by the others. Would she let the others be amsuhed by someone? Yes, of course, but herself? Never. I doubt Lisa would do a one on one with Kristen and herself like this.  

[psychoticstate]

Katie is the WORST.  Pretty bad when you have Stassi, Jax, Lala, James, Scheana, Kristen, among others, in this crew.   Is there anything she isn't coming to terms with or trying to deal with?  That's her excuse for why she treats Scheana like shit?  I'd have at least a modicum of respect for her if she admitted she just didn't like Scheana and that's that.  Of course it's more than just a little bit hypocritical to bash Scheana for her years-ago affair with a married man but not go after Lala for the same.

I did roll my eyes hardcore when Katie was shrugging off James having a gig at PUMP.  Do we have to remind Katie that she is the main reason that James got fired (the second time) from SUR?  Because Katie cannot possibly be in the same place with him?   Not saying I agree with Kristen spazzing out over everything James does or doesn't do (I don't) but Katie is the queen of hypocrisy.  Shut it, Katie.  Being married hasn't made you more adult or enlightened.

Since everyone knows that Kristen has an irrational anger toward anything related to James, the only reason anyone could have to relay a message to her, be it verbal or text, about James being some place or having a job is merely to set her off.  I'm looking at you, Carter.  Why tell her that?  Of course he should be concerned that his girlfriend is still sooooo very concerned about her former boyfriend of 3+ years ago.  

The cheese may stand alone but I understood why Jax did what he did.  I don't know if it's because he can't be trusted in a roomful of women without Brittany there, or with her there, but I think it's more how he perceived she would react finding out there were a handful of women that came to their hotel room from the bar.  She would have freaked out and understandably so.    Maybe I'm just old but frankly, I don't think it's a good idea for any of them that are married or in committed relationships to be bringing gaggles of women back to their hotel room, even if it is supposedly for Peter's benefit.  You're asking for trouble - - and especially these chucklefucks.

Schwartz really is a sloppy, messy drunk and for all his protestations, he can't seem to have one, responsible drink.  Of course, most of this group drinks like Prohibition is picking up tomorrow.  I swear, my liver cries every Monday night and I get drunk from the alcohol fumes wafting from my tv. 

I continue to like James and hope that he can keep it together and stay away from the alcohol.  HIs commentary on the model walk was hilarious.  

I'd be curious to know the Nugget's reaction to Flat Iron being in the corner with random bar girl, on the balcony, while Schwartz was watching thru the slider.  

I'm disappointed that Lisa was so bitchy toward Harry.  He is not responsible for what James did or didn't do and to continue talking shit about James in front of him really isn't cool.  I did think James' excitement over taking his brother shopping for work clothes was adorable.  I do think James has a good heart, especially when it's not drowning in booze.

I continue to like Beau.  I hope he and Stassi make it.  

[geauxaway]

33 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I guess they were safe because the filming crew was there (and the woman hanging out with Sandoval on the balcony looked right at the camera), but I really hope most groups of three women would not go to a hotel room with seven men. 

Oh totally agree!  But didn’t the one say she’d only been in LA a week?  I’m sure they saw cameras and went for it.  Not to mention....drugs.   

And before this gets misconstrued, I am in no way saying “they were asking for it.”  As far as I know and could see, everything was completely consensual and between adults. Not every single sexual interaction these days has to be a #metoo story.  I’m sorry, but it just doesn’t.  

[ghoulina]

15 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Kristen left the Uber car door open?

I was hoping it was one of those vans where the door slides shut on its own. Because, otherwise, wow. So rude. 

12 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Speaking of freeloading, can someone who may be more socially media savvy than I am tell me what Beau actually does?  Because I don't think he has a job.

I have absolutely no idea if he works, but I follow him on IG and there WAS a post (or story?) the other day where it was raining and he said something to the affect of, "I should have drove to work". I'm totally paraphrasing; but "work" WAS part of it. No idea what he was referencing. He is very sarcastic and playful on IG, so it could have been a joke of some sort? He could have been counting filming for VPR as "work"? I don't know. 

3 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

This is the same shit that happened when she was with James and obsessing over Sandoval. It's a pattern for her.

I also think that double standards just drive her nuts, especially when she gets slammed for doing the same shit they all do, yet nobody else is in the doghouse for very long. I get it, but she needs to keep going to therapy and calm down about it.

But I don't think it's exactly double standards. Sure, they've ALL done shitty things. Kristen, though, has a very hard time with contrition. Yes, James is probably full of shit when he apologizes. But at least he makes a solid effort. Kristen tends to get super prideful, dig her heels in, and make things worse. 

[ghoulina]

17 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

I did roll my eyes hardcore when Katie was shrugging off James having a gig at PUMP.  Do we have to remind Katie that she is the main reason that James got fired (the second time) from SUR?  Because Katie cannot possibly be in the same place with him?   Not saying I agree with Kristen spazzing out over everything James does or doesn't do (I don't) but Katie is the queen of hypocrisy

Yea, but Katie doesn't work at Pump. And Kristen doesn't either. Neither of them have to be there when James is. So I'm not sure how Katie is being hypocritical here? 

[RHJunkie]

It really annoys me that Jax seemingly doesn't get (or at least he refuses to acknowledge) the irony in him complaining about someone else getting several chances to redeem himself when his whole life has been a ball of infinite second chances. He's stolen, he's insulted, he sleeps with almost everyone he works with, he's been volatile and he's spoken so many lies that he has become the boy that has cried wolf. Who is he talk about anyone else's second chances?

Is Kristen obsessed with James because she needs a distraction from her shitty relationship with Carter is Kristen also obsessed with James because she never really got over him? If she's so upset with how many chances James has gotten, why not be upset with Jax, who she's slept with, who also seems to get an endless supply of chances from Lisa?

I think all of these people should attend basic sensitivity training. When you are around someone who is sober and does not want to drink and they are okay with being in your company, that isn't your permission to ask them if they want a drink. They wouldn't be sober if A drink was enough for them.

Carter seems like a leech. Him texting Kristen about James being at the party after knowing how riled up she was about finding out that he was hired for an event at Pump is really shady to me. Carter sees how insecure Kristen is and he uses it to his advantage and then when confronted, he makes it seem like he's some martyr that Kristen should be lucky to have in her life because he's willing to put up with her crazy when he's a big factor in why she's acting crazy. In fairness, Kristen is legit crazy but her crazy is driven by her own insecurities. She is not a good judge of character and the effects show in her mental state.

It's worrisome that Katie has known Kristen for so long and still knows shit about how to handle her when drunk. I could certainly tell you that it wouldn't be effective to constantly call out her name, tell her where to sit, what to talk about, and to act like her therapist.

[esco1822]

22 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

Do we have to remind Katie that she is the main reason that James got fired (the second time) from SUR? 

Nope. The main reason James got fired is James. Katie may be awful but she was well within her rights to complain to Lisa about his behavior. When drinking, he's a lawsuit waiting to happen. So yeah, James is at fault no matter what. 

[WhosThatGirl]

1 minute ago, esco1822 said:

Nope. The main reason James got fired is James. Katie may be awful but she was well within her rights to complain to Lisa about his behavior. When drinking, he's a lawsuit waiting to happen. So yeah, James is at fault no matter what. 

This. Katie is bad at times but it’s getting really annoying when I read so many people blaming her. 

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

He should try to parlay his passion for making unique drinks in to a money making situation like Bethenny Frankel did with her god awful Skinny Girl drinks. He's good at it and his cocktails look to be a lot more creative and delicious than hers ever were. 

But this unbelievably hard to do. So far, we've seen:

• Vicki's bacon vodka,
• Wines by Wives,
• Collette sparkling wine methode champenoise,
• Vanderpump Sangria,
• Vanderpump Rose,
• Vanderpump Vodka,
• Basic Witch Potion No.1 from the Witches of WeHo by Nocking Point,
• Just Add X,
• Zing Vodka,
• Unfiltered Blonde,
• Ramona Pinot Grigio,
• Tipsy Girl,
• Fabellini,
• La Mascara, and
• SkinnyGirl.

Very few of these brands still exist let alone can be found in stores. Vanderpump Rose and Sangria and SkinnyGirl and can still be found in stores nationwide.  Unfiltered Blonde, La Mascara (in Australia), Basic Witch Potion No. 1, Just Add X, and Zing can still be found in select locations or online. I think the thing to note is that LVP has been in the bar business, with some knowledge and familiarity with the beverage business, for more than 30 years. Vanderpump Vodka is largely is largely a vanity label; you can find their sangria and rose on shelves nationwide, but it's like 3 or 4 stores max depending on the size of the city. The Maloof family (via Maloof Distributing) has been in the booze business for decades upon decades and have made such an astronomical amount of money in this business that it dwarfs Bethenny's SkinnyGirl sale many times over.  Like hundreds of millions of dollars. These people are billionaires. And still they really had a hard time getting Zing Vodka off the ground. Nocking Point is Arrow star, Stephen Amell's, quasi vanity vineyard.

Despite her hard work, Bethenny got extremely lucky. She managed to reignite a part of the beverage business that had been dormant for at least 30 years. So even though Sandoval is passionate about cocktails and his cocktails are probably better than Bethenny's, it's probably quite likely that he's never been approached to create his own cocktail line and fruitlessly trying to flog his own line will likely result in him spending tens of thousands of dollars on wasted effort.

[Marley]

The reason Lisa keeps forgiving James and not Kristen is because James is a huge suck up. Vanderpump loves to have her ego stroked and loves lording over these ppl.

[TattleTeeny]

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And before this gets misconstrued, I am in no way saying “they were asking for it.”  As far as I know and could see, everything was completely consensual and between adults. Not every single sexual interaction these days has to be a #metoo story.  I’m sorry, but it just doesn’t.  

Did I miss something? What happened that could be misconstrued--and what even was the "it" that they weren't asking for?

Edited February 19, 2019 by TattleTeeny

[geauxaway]

3 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

Did I miss something? What happened that could be misconstrued--and what even was the "it" that they weren't asking for?

Nope, you didn’t miss anything.  Who knows what happened in that room.  Peter wanted titties, other than that, I got nothing. I just wanted to avoid any misunderstanding of my comment.  

That’s it, that’s all.  

In my opinion, the girls looked like they moved to LA to make it big in porn.  

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

But I don't think it's exactly double standards. Sure, they've ALL done shitty things. Kristen, though, has a very hard time with contrition. Yes, James is probably full of shit when he apologizes. But at least he makes a solid effort. Kristen tends to get super prideful, dig her heels in, and make things worse. 

That is very true. She is not one to say sorry...or show remorse...she tends more toward an "it happened, get over it" reaction.

[TattleTeeny]

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Nope, you didn’t miss anything.  Who knows what happened in that room.  Peter wanted titties, other than that, I got nothing. I just wanted to avoid any misunderstanding of my comment.  

That’s it, that’s all.  

In my opinion, the girls looked like they moved to LA to make it big in porn.  

Oh, OK, I guess--but why mention "#metoo" then (and sort of defensively, unless I am misinterpreting)? I really thought I missed some whole chunk of drama here and in the show itself, haha!

Edited February 19, 2019 by TattleTeeny

[Carolina Girl]

36 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

In my opinion, the girls looked like they moved to LA to make it big in porn.  

Now I don't feel so bad.   I actually initially thought they were some well-placed escorts "hired" for the evening and conveniently placed by Production.   I mean, who hangs around a hotel bar.  I would think three girls would want to hit a night spot with music, dancing and lots of other people making some noise!

Edited February 19, 2019 by Carolina Girl
Let's not make them hookers - just Escorts.....

[politichick]

2 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

This. Katie is bad at times but it’s getting really annoying when I read so many people blaming her. 

I agree he should not have called her fat, but he was drunk, as was all of them, and SHE lobbied the first insult, which was about his appearance. So, she started it. And she and Kristen made agitating him one of their day's goals.

[Batwings]

1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

• Collette sparkling wine methode champenoise

Of course that’s the name. 😂 Oh, fancy pants. Don’t ever change.

[Higgins]

22 minutes ago, politichick said:

I agree he should not have called her fat, but he was drunk, as was all of them, and SHE lobbied the first insult, which was about his appearance. So, she started it. And she and Kristen made agitating him one of their day's goals.

She did. She started it. He went low.

[charliesan]

Isn't Kristen a decade older than James? By no means am I trying to excuse James' behavior, but I guarantee that the rest of these assholes behaved much worse than him, hell, sometimes they act trashier than him right now. 

Oh Scheana... The best thing that could happen to her is if LVP sends her to her new Vegas' digs and create a show based on that place, because Scheana ain't leaving without the cameras. 

[Carolina Girl]

2 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

This. Katie is bad at times but it’s getting really annoying when I read so many people blaming her. 

Uh, Katie and the Posse instigated the incident at Pride, not James.  They were insulting him and Raquel.

He turned around and called her fat.  Sorry Katie - when you lob the ball over the net, the other player can often smash it back.  

[TattleTeeny]

And James was free to make the same request to Lisa that Katie did. He didn't. HR issues are not really about "lobbing back"; the response that comes is based on a reported incident. Everyone can argue until the cows go home about who started what and how they're all in some way terrible employees (and that this isn't even "real life" anyway and if it were, LVP should clean house). Katie made a report about a repeat problem employee who "went low" and Lisa had to (pretend) handle it.

[WhosThatGirl]

1 hour ago, TattleTeeny said:

And James was free to make the same request to Lisa that Katie did. He didn't. HR issues are not really about "lobbing back"; the response that comes is based on a reported incident. Everyone can argue until the cows go home about who started what and how they're all in some way terrible employees (and that this isn't even "real life" anyway and if it were, LVP should clean house). Katie made a report about a repeat problem employee who "went low" and Lisa had to (pretend) handle it.

Again, this. Yes Katie was at fault too(although she didn’t attack about hope, that was Kristen solo) and yeah katie did edit out a lot of her part in the altercation, I agree but Katie isn’t responsible for how james reacted. Just like when Billie Lee blames james actions and drinking on Kristen, that’s not true either. Is Brittany to blame for james singing a bad rap about her relationship? 

[psychoticstate]

6 hours ago, esco1822 said:

Nope. The main reason James got fired is James. Katie may be awful but she was well within her rights to complain to Lisa about his behavior. When drinking, he's a lawsuit waiting to happen. So yeah, James is at fault no matter what. 

6 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

This. Katie is bad at times but it’s getting really annoying when I read so many people blaming her. 

Yes, James made comments he shouldn't have but Katie was the one who initiated the entire thing by commenting on James' appearance first.  

3 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

Uh, Katie and the Posse instigated the incident at Pride, not James.  They were insulting him and Raquel.

He turned around and called her fat.  Sorry Katie - when you lob the ball over the net, the other player can often smash it back.  

Thank you.  Yes.  Katie commented on James' appearance first and then cried victim when he gave it back to her.   

[TattleTeeny]

Regardless, James is the reason James got fired, not Katie. 

[biakbiak]

Not to mention James was working and clearly high as a kite. Probably not the only one but it definitely influences his behavior and makes him even more of a loose cannon.

[WhosThatGirl]

11 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

Regardless, James is the reason James got fired, not Katie. 

Again, people are quoting my post I wish they would read my last post where I said that yeah Katie shouldn’t have said anything(but I also pointed out that she didn’t bring hope or start that.. that was Kristen but whatever) and yes she did edit out what happened to Lisa, I said this also but it needs to be said again.. other people aren’t responsible for your reactions to things. Again it’s crap that Billie says Kristen is responsible for how James acts. And again.. what did brittany do to james to make him be rude to her? And she didn’t react in a way by calling him names. She got upset but didn’t let out her anger at her work place. Again yes katie edited out what happened to Lisa but it’s not just her fault. It’s both their faults. I’m saying she shouldn’t get all the blame for it. And she seems to here.

[Talktolaura]

20 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

ng of freeloading, can someone who may be more socially media savvy than I am tell

20 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

lly media savvy than I am tell me what Beau actually does?  Because I don't think he has a job.  I think his job is to be Stassi's Boyfriend, and that was why he had no problem steaming her outfit a few episodes back.  I was never enamored by him--I still think she can do a lot better--but when I found out he was 38 years old and seemed to have nothing better to do than to hitch his wagon to Stassi's kinda famous 30 year old star, I realized I am never going to see him in a good light.

Bo def has a career in casting. Also- since Stasi was one who was repulsed by the fact that Carter is a freeloader.....I highly doubt that she'd be into Bo if that was there situation. Also Bo and Stasi fan....they are adobs together!

[SimonSeymour]

12 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I don't think having or not having a LinkedIn profile means all that much, especially depending on the industry. I always use the Shahs as a measurement because they're all in their late 30s and 40s. They really did have to work for a living. About half of them have LinkedIn profiles (Nema, Mona, Mike, and MJ do; Reza, Shervin, and Tommy don't and we know Shervin's real business is computer recycling).

Presumably, this is Beau's casting agency:

http://www.sanfordcasting.com/contact/index.html

Beau's name is listed under the staff listing.

I agree. I also don’t think that because he steamed Stassi’s clothes means that he has no job. 

My husband and I are both lawyers who work full time. Neither of us are on LinkedIn, and we both steam each other’s clothes all of the time if the other needs help. The idea that a man wouldn’t do laundry/iron/steam UNLESS he doesn’t work is backward 1950s thinking, IMO. 

I also wasn’t at all bothered by Jax and Beau calling Brittany and Stassi to tell them what was going on. I sort of even feel as though Jax was looking out for Beau by suggesting it because he knows from experience that Stassi would freak out about the situation. 

[MVFrostsMyPie]

Jax asking why Lisa keeps rehiring James is precious. Jax, haaaaave you met yourself? 

Lala's been around since 2015? Jesus, time flies. Shit, how long have I been watching this fucking show? 

Scheana, that weave has gots to goooooo. It looks like it weighs as much as you.

Sometimes, I too feel like going out in just a silky robe. Except unlike Lala, I have some sense of what's appropriate in public and what's not. 

Ugh, Brittany facetiming in a store. She'd be that clueless bitch yapping on her phone on public transit too. I hate those people. It's 7am, stop talking.

Ariana looked like she was falling asleep at dinner. She even bores herself!

[aussieinsydney]

The only things I got from this episode are:-

Jax is like a sweaty, recovering drug addict when it comes to putting women in his way for possible sexy times (don' t tell Britney!)

[SarahPrtr]

On 2/19/2019 at 3:59 PM, ParadoxLost said:

Putting aside whatever is going on with Carter, Kristen's feeling towards James seem a lot like the same thing she was doing when she was trying to show the world that Sandoval cheated too.  It makes her nuts that she gets dumped on and not forgiven for things that others get a second chance for.  That is why LvP icing her out but letting James work for her makes Kristen nuts.  Kristen forgets that LvP only gives another chance to those that grovel and suck up to her satisfaction.  This is why James cries while being fired.

I can understand being pissed off about being treated rudely by people and seeing others getting away with doing the same thing.  She said something similar to the Miami Girl where she said "It's not ok for him (FI) to keep doing what he's doing and call the girls he's using, the liars."

On 2/19/2019 at 5:40 PM, LibertarianSlut said:

Ariana looked like she was about to go riding in acid washed, ripped jeans, Brittany was dressed like a street walker that worked on a farm, Kristen's romper wasn't doing it for me (though the girl has some stems), so I guess Stassi's outfit won by default, although I don't know why such a large-bosomed woman wears an off-the-shoulder shirt with otherwise warm clothes.  Is that a thing now? 

I don't think Carter is the problem.  I don't think he was gaslighting Kristen with those texts.  I think he was just telling her James was there so that she didn't find out about it later and think Carter was keeping things.  If Carter is freeloading off of Kristen, that is a different discussion, but I don't think he's abusing her.  I think some of these women (Stassi, Katie) just want to take up a cause, Carter be thy name du jour.

I thought the same thing about Ariana re: going horse riding. 

Brittany looking like a streetworker who worked on a farm!!!  LOL!!!!  You're so funny!!!

Haven't they all at one point or another had a website or a blog about style and fashion???  I mean, I believe that Stassi can write, and write quite well, but where has her style gone???

Kristen seems to like being the one in charge of the relationships she's in.  She used to drive Tom around because his licence was suspended and she paid for James and Carter.

PS. Whenever I see your screen name I keep seeing 'Librarian Slut', haha.

17 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Well, I'm not gonna shoot you down. He also had plenty of time to travel Europe with Stassi when the show was on hiatus. Beau seems like an ok guy but I'm not getting why people love him so much. He's not a cheater and he doesn't appear to lie so I guess that's an improvement over Stassi's typical boyfriends.

Again, Stassi was talking about the fact that she can trust him, but she also said that about Patrick, and he turned out to be a stinking shitty wanker, so I'm not really sure about her trust-meter.  But Beau does seem sweeter than all of the boyfriends Stassi has had on the show.

I wanted to slap Katie when she was going off on Kristen.  She just wouldn't stfu.  It's like when someone is losing their shit and someone tells them to calm down.  FO.  When tf has that EVER worked???  You're making it worse!!!

[SarahPrtr]

What happened to Sarah?  She was the one with a little boy and dating Peter in season 4.  The Toms were talking about her being an actual adult, because she is a mum.  There have been many episodes that I haven't watched properly because I tend to skip over the scenes with the male cast (they bore me and piss me off more than the female cast), so I don't know if Peter mentioned breaking up with her.

[SarahPrtr]

17 hours ago, nexxie said:

Anyone else have the feeling that Jax is desperately trying to change in order to have a family before he’s too old, but will be back to his horn-dog ways as soon as his new wife is plumply pregnant?

Of course!  He's one of those shitheads who have affairs when their wives get sick and/or pregnant.  No doubt.  I don't feel bad for Brittany anymore, she knows who he is and is still going ahead with it.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Kristen said on WWHL that in 2010 (or somewhere around there) she and Beau were in a film together. They had a kissing scene

[bichonblitz]

5 hours ago, SarahPrtr said:

What happened to Sarah?  She was the one with a little boy and dating Peter in season 4.  The Toms were talking about her being an actual adult, because she is a mum.

She is also the one that had the boobs that Jax was infatuated with. He said he wanted Britts boob job to look just like that. 

[OnceSane]

12 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

I’m saying she shouldn’t get all the blame for it. And she seems to here.

I think that's because she's getting NONE of the blame on the show.  If she'd owned up to her part or someone (other than James/Raquel) had taken her to task…we wouldn't be going so hard on her.  But it feels like James is taking all of the blame on the show while Katie swans around reminding people they done her wrong.  Like Scheana…convenient that Katie ignores that Schwartz was talking shit to Scheana first while she smugged alongside.

Katie is still feeling her oats from the queen bee title passing into her hands during her wedding season.  And I'll bet she thinks Jax and Brittany won't make it down the aisle so her crown will stay.  I'm personally still rooting for a complete upset of the apple cart when FI finally breaks up with Ariana (or vice versa) & he and Scheana realize they're two narcissistic peas in a pod.

Smoke bomb!

[MV713]

On 2/18/2019 at 11:58 PM, Marley said:

Peter is gross. Obviously trying to use the show and cameras to get laid. I just don’t care to ever see him and his long greasy hair.

I like Beau so it cracked me up when he said but we are the good guys and then corrected himself and says well I am and jokingly pushed Jax. 

Carter probably told Kristen that James was there cause he knows if she found out without him telling she would go even more crazy. I just don’t know if I buy the whole Carter is a bad guy storyline. They are still together today and seem to be just fine. Going off about Carter never paying anything while sitting next to LaLa sugar baby Kent is pretty hilarious too.

Those girls seemed next level trashy too. 

on WWHL Kristen alluded to the fact that they are "working things out" which sounded like they are NOT together currently.