Jeopardy! Season 35 (2018-2019)

[PaulaO]

The name Salome conjures up Gloria Swanson in Sunset Boulevard.  MAAAX!

[Browncoat]

2 minutes ago, Roaster said:

I didn't notice how she wrote it, but on https://www.jeopardy.com/

they list her name as Salom Gonstad.

She wrote it Salome with an accent mark over the "e" -- I never can remember how to do those!

Instaget FJ for me tonight.  Arlo does several of Woody's songs in concert (I've seen Arlo four times, I think?), with This Land Is Your Land as a singalong.  But that ruins the perfect zero I was working on for the week.  🙂

 I also got the TS of Nikon, Centrum, and niacin. 

[Halting Hex]

Well, I guess I can stop saving the shows now.  I was hoping for another run (and Brendan might provide it, for all I know), but Emma won't be it.  Farewell, Library Girl!

Shocked as anything that the Mojave River was a TS.  And on a $400 clue, no less.

I got Woody Guthrie instantly and was proud of the show for not including the talented-but-IMO-not-legendary Arlo in the clue.  Which gave Emma the choice that upended her, as it turned out.  (Brendan had her beaten anyway, though.)

OTOH, I was pretty much useless in the "Bit of Lit" category.  Perhaps Brendan's big sister could give me a refresher course in reading?  Because, honestly, sheesh.

Edited June 7, 2019 by Halting Hex

[Kimmmmmm]

7 minutes ago, Booney said:

Same here - not sorry to see Emma go. I was rooting for Salome...or Salom...or however it’s spelled!

Yeah, I was rooting for her, too....but mostly, I'm glad whatshername is GONE!!!!

[Katy M]

5 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

She wrote it Salome with an accent mark over the "e" -- I never can remember how to do those!

é  Alt+130

[Browncoat]

Just now, Katy M said:

é  Alt+130

Thanks, but I'll probably forget within the next, oh, ten minutes or so.  I seem to have the memory of a goldfish lately. 

[Moose135]

18 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Alex said the A got her in trouble, which yes, but I don't think it should have been counted right with just Guthrie since there are two reasonable answers for that.

I guessed the Guthrie part right away, then I spent most of the rest of the time trying to remember which was the father and which was the son.

[SpiritSong]

8 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

It’s not allowing me to quote, but I wanted to quote @Dobian above because I loved that Gordon Lightfoot album too and now listen to it on a CD. My favorite song on it is Don Quixote. Nice to see I’m not the only person who appreciates that album. Coincidentally he was also the first concert I ever saw. It was at a local community college outdoors. We took a blanket, sat and enjoyed. 

I;ve seen him in concert several times and he's always great. I also have him as one of my Pandora channels.

[Prevailing Wind]

I get a comma with alt+130. é is alt+0233 on my character map. 

DAMN. She's gone before we found out what a user experience librarian is. I guess that's just something I'll have to go on living not knowing about. <big sigh>

Emma *might* have argued that "a" wasn't an initial, but an article. Who is a Guthrie, any Guthrie?

Google is my friend. Look, she can get a job in Boston, one of those O-vowel cities!  https://www.higheredjobs.com/admin/details.cfm?JobCode=176916390

Edited June 7, 2019 by Prevailing Wind

[Toothbrush]

1 hour ago, illdoc said:

My FJ guess was Pete Seeger.

I considered him for a brief moment as well. 

52 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Alex said the A got her in trouble, which yes, but I don't think it should have been counted right with just Guthrie since there are two reasonable answers for that.

Guthrie only would have elicited a BMS in the other 2 rounds, but I have no idea how it would be handled in FJ. I guess if the answer could possibly cover more than one person (Woody, Arlo, Kit), it makes sense to jot down a first name, or at least a first initial. I wonder if this is something that is told to players, or if the show figures the contestants should be able figure it out on their own. Were any of you players out there advised of this? 

48 minutes ago, Halting Hex said:

OTOH, I was pretty much useless in the "Bit of Lit" category.  Perhaps Brendan's big sister could give me a refresher course in reading?  Because, honestly, sheesh.

So was I. I'm usually much better at literature categories. 

[Tabasco Cat]

23 hours ago, Temperance said:

Emma's style reminds me of Rachel Maddow and I find that  a little endearing.

I think Emma looks like Rachel Maddow much more than Vicki Lawrence. Short of the hairstyle I don't think she looks like Lawrence at all. And one of these "mod" wigs would make anyone look like Emma. In fact, I wondered for a while whether she was actually wearing a wig. This is her exact hairstyle.

Emma was a very good Jeopardy! champ for a couple of days. My big beef with her, however, is not winning that 3rd game. She was just shy of $100,000 and the person currently on the bottom of the list for the Tournament of Champions (according to the Jeopardy website) absolutely 100% NEEDS TO BE BUMPED OFF THE LIST. Emma was perfectly positioned to do it. But no. Now I have to hope we see another $100,000 winner before the season ends.

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[Tabasco Cat]

11 hours ago, Rbonnie said:

I hope you get here one day to see it!  It’s gorgeous but lot of people don’t realize how spectacular the interior is. I tried to link a pic but it was too big lol

I knew that answer without the extra radiator-caps hint. Less famously, perhaps, it was also the escape ship for the Coneheads once upon a time in SNL land.

[Abstract]

Brendan seemed like a very congenial guy. I liked his anecdote. He didn't do anything annoying, he smiled pleasantly, he played great! 

I could get behind games like this with 3 high scores as a regular thing.

I'm a little sorry to see Emma go, only because I want to hear more of her quirks. Visiting cities with O as the only vowel, working crosswords with her left hand - just so off-the-wall nerd. I was enjoying it.

Edited June 7, 2019 by Abstract

[Prevailing Wind]

26 minutes ago, Tabasco Cat said:

the person currently on the bottom of the list for the Tournament of Champions (according to the Jeopardy website) absolutely 100% NEEDS TO BE BUMPED OFF THE LIST.

I see that it's Lindsey Shultz. WHY does she have to go? I'd rather see #10 from the bottom, that Fenster Puppy-Abandoner kid off the list.

[Athena]

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[DrScottie]

1 hour ago, Katy M said:

I always get Earl Warren and Warren Burger mixed up.  

That should make that a before and after clue. 

I liked Emma. Oh well. At least she wasn't a one and done after beating James. 

[Toothbrush]

37 minutes ago, Abstract said:

I'm a little sorry to see Emma go, only because I want to hear more of her quirks. Visiting cities with O as the only vowel, working crosswords with her left hand - just so off-the-wall nerd. I was enjoying it.

I do crosswords on an app, but if I still did them on paper I would totally adopt that. 

36 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I'd rather see #10 from the bottom, that Fenster Puppy-Abandoner kid off the list.

Oh crap he's still lurking around? I thought he was a few seasons ago & our national nightmare was finally over. 

[lb60]

I got FJ correct tonight, so I'm feeling pretty good about myself. ;-) No shutout for me this week!

I also got Centrum and California.

[Sandiscot]

It wasn't shown here tonight, not even later, because of the Stanley Cup finals. That was ok, LGB!!  When James was still on, they showed Jeopardy at 9:30pm when hockey was on. Glad, but not surprised, to see Emma is gone.

[Abstract]

I've got to be more careful when browsing for spoilers because I keep seeing FJ accidentally. 

I got Centrum. Clearly these contestants don't watch enough TV commercials.

[Gimmick Genius]

Woody Guthrie was an insta-get but then I started second-guessing Pete Seeger. I stayed with Guthrie, although I wondered if he was TOO obvious.

I'm sorry to see Emma go. All through Double Jeopardy! and coming out of the break before final I kept fearing they would ding her for the 'Comic Sidekicks' response of "Asterisk" instead of "AsterIX" (I played it back a couple of times). Emma got away with it, but it ultimately didn't help.😯

[The Wild Sow]

2 hours ago, DrScottie said:

I always get Earl Warren and Warren Burger mixed up.  

Oh, everybody does!

[solarfire]

FJ was an instaget for me.  I always associated Grapes of Wrath with Woodie Guthrie.  If you can find tv movie "Bound for Glory" with David Carradine as Woody, it's worth watching.

[Brookside]

1 hour ago, Gimmick Genius said:

I'm sorry to see Emma go. All through Double Jeopardy! and coming out of the break before final I kept fearing they would ding her for the 'Comic Sidekicks' response of "Asterisk" instead of "AsterIX" (I played it back a couple of times). Emma got away with it, but it ultimately didn't help.😯

Alex also said Asterisk.  I was yelling at my TV.

[GreekGeek]

Last night was my first look at Emma in action, apart from viewing Monday's game on You Tube two nights after the fact. So of course she lost ☹️. I don't share the Emma-dislike. She didn't have a "big" TV personality, but I tend not to care for those. Did anyone else think Alex was pleased she lost? Something about the way he said she wasn't going to be champ again after her FJ answer was revealed. Plus, he brought up James again at the start of the show.

[suebee12]

1 minute ago, GreekGeek said:

Did anyone else think Alex was pleased she lost? Something about the way he said she wasn't going to be champ again after her FJ answer was revealed.

I don't know if he was pleased but I did notice the way he said this was a bit strange almost like a taunt. I did not like Emma(maybe subconsciously because she is the one who took James down) but there was something about her that  made me not like her.  I did like Erin the day she was on and Brenden seems like a nice guy. Now it will be interesting to see if he keeps going to the bottom of the board at the beginning. I like big money days and that is a way to keep things big!

Just for the fun of it, I watched James' first game again last night.(I still have all of  his games on my DVR). While he won big, it wasn't a huge runaway and the champion was in it til the end. He didn't answer every question plus there were answers that were missed(Karmann Ghia for one that surprised me) so that it took a game or two for him to get into his "James" mode. I will miss him but life must go on!!

[Katy M]

9 hours ago, Toothbrush said:

Guthrie only would have elicited a BMS in the other 2 rounds, but I have no idea how it would be handled in FJ. I guess if the answer could possibly cover more than one person (Woody, Arlo, Kit), it makes sense to jot down a first name, or at least a first initial. I wonder if this is something that is told to players, or if the show figures the contestants should be able figure it out on their own. Were any of you players out there advised of this? 

I remember once in FJ, someone wrote down Roosevelt as the answer and it was ruled incorrect because it could have been Franklin or Theodore.  I have no idea what, if anything, they tell contestants about that.

[Trey]

12 hours ago, illdoc said:

My FJ guess was Pete Seeger.

He was my first guess too but I just wasn't sure so kept thinking.  Arlo Guthrie came to mind and I knew it would be his father not him, so I came up with Woody Guthrie just in time. 

I really enjoyed that game.

[TaraS1]

Now that she's gone, I want to thank those who played "Who does Emma look like?" and let you all know that, while Vicky Lawrence was an excellent guess, the answer was, in fact, Kim Darby. 😉 (I didn't know Kim Darby by name, I just knew when I saw Emma the first day she played that she had clearly also played Mrs. Garrett's daughter-in-law on Facts of Life.)

I appreciate Emma's personal service to me by getting rid of James, but I like the new champion already and really enjoyed the competitive game.  I guessed Bob Dylan too, though.  

[Dobian]

I was rooting for Salome.  She could have won if she got a couple more answers right or landed a daily double.  She just happened to be up against two equal competitors.  Emma now becomes a footnote in Jeopardy history, the player who unseated James.  At least she can say she defended her title twice.  I think the person who dethroned Ken Jennings lost the very next game.

[The Wild Sow]

1 hour ago, TaraS1 said:

, the answer was, in fact, Kim Darby. 

Yes!  I thought so too.  Kim Darby was Mattie in the original True Grit.

Some Pittsburgh Penguins fans also think she looks like Evgeni Malkin's little sister 😃

[Clanstarling]

On 6/5/2019 at 8:44 PM, Abstract said:

It was almost physically painful for me when Erin blew that DD. Before I fully read the clue and just saw a couple of words about music, I pre-guessed Beethoven, but then quickly realized what the clue was asking for. Is the Van Cliburn competition really that obscure?

Erin was fun to watch, very expressive.

But then I know nothing about buildings, and have only heard of the Chrysler building because of "Hard-Knock Life" from Annie.

I kept blowing the questions because I couldn't remember the category was "Vans" every.single.time. Arggh! Especially frustrating because if I'd remembered, I would have gotten at least some of them - including this one (the mister got it of course, he's a musician)

On 6/6/2019 at 5:57 AM, Browncoat said:

This morning, I got an e-mail from Ticketmaster, telling me that I can now buy tickets to see Gordon Lightfoot in concert!  <whisper> I didn't know he was still alive.<whisper>

Sometimes when I hear an elderly celebrity is dead, I think "oh, I thought he/she was already dead" I always feel bad about it.

14 hours ago, Roaster said:

Good game today.  All three contestants finished Double Jeopardy with over $15K, lead changes, clues weren't super easy.

I had to think a second for FJ, but only for a second.  At least I wouldn't have said Arlo Guthrie 😉

Plus that one contestant was named Salom (? I think.  Alex was calling her Salome). Rare name - Biblical I assume - but I like it.

Indeed biblical, but no one I would name a kid after - she's the daughter of Herod II who asked for John the Baptist's head on a platter. The contestant did spell it Salome, which is how I made the connection originally. I said the the mister - who'd name their daughter after her? But I've seen worse names.

13 hours ago, Browncoat said:

She wrote it Salome with an accent mark over the "e" -- I never can remember how to do those!

Instaget FJ for me tonight.  Arlo does several of Woody's songs in concert (I've seen Arlo four times, I think?), with This Land Is Your Land as a singalong.  But that ruins the perfect zero I was working on for the week.  🙂

 I also got the TS of Nikon, Centrum, and niacin. 

I've seen Arlo once - and it was hands down the best concert I ever went to. Plus, I'm old, but slightly less old than the typical Arlo crowd, so I was probably the youngest person in the audience, which felt good. 🙂

13 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

DAMN. She's gone before we found out what a user experience librarian is. I guess that's just something I'll have to go on living not knowing about. <big sigh>

I know, right? I really wanted to know. Maybe I'll Google it.

8 hours ago, solarfire said:

FJ was an instaget for me.  I always associated Grapes of Wrath with Woodie Guthrie.  If you can find tv movie "Bound for Glory" with David Carradine as Woody, it's worth watching.

Instaget for me too. Steinbeck was my jam as a lit major, and Woodie's politics fit right in with the theme of Grapes of Wrath.

Edited June 7, 2019 by Clanstarling

[Prevailing Wind]

14 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

Indeed biblical, but no one I would name a kid after - she's the daughter of Herod II who asked for John the Baptist's head on a platter.

Really? I seem to recall that the daughter's name isn't mentioned anywhere in the New Testament; she was given that name by someone other than the Bible scribes (Perhaps a composer?) I could be wrong. It's been decades since I've been in a church and that was for a wedding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salome

Edited June 7, 2019 by Prevailing Wind

[DrSpaceman]

A very close and exciting game

I said Arlo Guthrie for FJ.  I knew it was some Guthrie. But I can use the old Alex excuse they were "before my time" I guess. 

A game like this and you really see the difference between a player like Emma and James.  Emma was a very good player.  She won, what $100K on the show?  There were multiple categories she was great at and ran them all. 

But then there were multiple categories with gaps of knowledge, was either too slow or didn't know.  That didn't happen often with James.  Seemed like he knew everything, very few categories where he was just out of it, couldn't even get in an answer. 

I recall this was Austin as well.  He was a great player too.  And he did employ a bet big strategy too on DDs.  Not as big as James, but bigger than most.  But there were stretches for him too where you could tell he just didn't know the categories well

Those were few and far between for James.  Or Ken, back when he was on the show. 

[Katy M]

44 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

Indeed biblical, but no one I would name a kid after - she's the daughter of Herod II who asked for John the Baptist's head on a platter. The contestant did spell it Salome, which is how I made the connection originally. I said the the mister - who'd name their daughter after her? But I've seen worse names.

I don't think she was actually named in the Bible.  She was just called Herodias' daughter.  And Herodias was Herod's brother's wife who Herod "took to his own bed," and then enjoyed the daughter's dancing, so I imagine she was his niece, rather than his daughter.

[Julia67]

34 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

eally? I seem to recall that the daughter's name isn't mentioned anywhere in the New Testament;

Definitely a Bible name. In fact, there were TWO in the Bible.  ETA:  only one is named in the text.  Not sure how they arrived at the conclusion that the other was named Salome?

https://www.gotquestions.org/Salome-in-the-Bible.html

Definitely not a well-known Bible name and definitely one I would not personally choose.  Would be interesting to know how her parents came to choose it and also to know how she feels about it.  My name is one of the most popular of all-time, so I imagine it might be fun to have a more unique name. 

Edited June 7, 2019 by Julia67

[Katy M]

1 minute ago, Julia67 said:

Definitely a Bible name. In fact, there were TWO in the Bible.  

Yes, I forgot about James's and John's mother.  She was one of the women at Jesus's crucifixion, and who helped prepare his body for burial.

[Gimmick Genius]

2 hours ago, Julia67 said:

Definitely not a well-known Bible name and definitely one I would not personally choose.  Would be interesting to know how her parents came to choose it and also to know how she feels about it.   

Maybe her parents liked or were friends with the '60s and beyond actress Salome Jens. Best known now, probably, as a 'changeling' on ST: Deep Space Nine -- but you wouldn't recognize her face in that!

[calpurnia99]

When I was in Italy a man was saying he loved Voodoo Goot Try , with try pronunced like Tri or the word Try

 and I had no idea he meant Woody Guthrie, took a half hour to figure that out! But I thought the answer was a Black American singer so I was on the wrong track

[Clanstarling]

3 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Really? I seem to recall that the daughter's name isn't mentioned anywhere in the New Testament; she was given that name by someone other than the Bible scribes (Perhaps a composer?) I could be wrong. It's been decades since I've been in a church and that was for a wedding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salome

I wasn't sure of the details, but knew I attached a negative image to her story. I'm not a big bible reader, but do well on biblical categories for some reason.  I was going off of the same article you linked, particularly this statement:

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According to the New Testament, the step daughter of Herod Antipas demanded and received the head of John the Baptist.

But, on further research (BibleGateway) I couldn't find her name specifically attached to the story.

2 hours ago, Julia67 said:

Definitely a Bible name. In fact, there were TWO in the Bible.  ETA:  only one is named in the text.  Not sure how they arrived at the conclusion that the other was named Salome?

https://www.gotquestions.org/Salome-in-the-Bible.html

Definitely not a well-known Bible name and definitely one I would not personally choose.  Would be interesting to know how her parents came to choose it and also to know how she feels about it.  My name is one of the most popular of all-time, so I imagine it might be fun to have a more unique name. 

This was a great link, I think the key statement was:

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Question: "Who was Salome in the Bible?"

Answer: There are two women named Salome in the Bible, but only one is mentioned by that name. One Salome was righteous; the other unrighteous.

It sounds like the name "Salome" has been attached to Herod's daughter over the years, with (from what I can tell) very little evidence.

Edited June 7, 2019 by Clanstarling

[Clanstarling]

Ah, here's where I first heard of Salome, I think. Carravaggio's Painting of "Salome with the Head of John the Baptist"

Edited June 7, 2019 by Clanstarling

[Clanstarling]

Oh, because I'm in research gear this morning, here's what I found out about user experience librarians.

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The position develops and implements technologies and services that enhance the user experience and user access to online library resources and technologies. The Systems & UX Librarian is a tech-savvy professional who reports to the Director of the Library.

Fun fact, I almost became something similar- though it wasn't called that at the time - the new position was set up to transfer card catalogs to an online catalog - cutting edge stuff at the time. It was between me and a classmate, who'd happened to work there as a clerk. Add to that, the Director of the Library and City Programmer got into an argument in front of me, and it's no wonder I didn't get the position.

[peeayebee]

I finally caught up on the shows. Basketball preemption, D-Day ceremony preemption... Argh.

For Wednesday night's show, I got chit, and that was it. (I'm a poet but don't know it.) Van Cliburn was on the tip of my tongue. Loved Jonathan's interview story about his cat.

On 6/6/2019 at 9:54 AM, bad things are bad said:

Count me in the "definitely needed the radiator caps to figure this one out" group

Seeing "ornamentation" and "NYC building" immediately made me think Chrysler Bldg, and then the radiator caps sealed it for me.

For Thursday night's show, I got Nikon (though it was just a guess), commode, and California. I was just about to say niacin when time was up. I couldn't remember Centrum, but I was picturing the bottle with something beginning with C.

I've never heard of moomen. Anyone?

Why isn't Emma starting at bottom? I thought she would continue that.

18 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I get a comma with alt+130. é is alt+0233 on my character map. 

On my Mac it's option+e and then e. Easy peasy.

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Emma *might* have argued that "a" wasn't an initial, but an article. Who is a Guthrie, any Guthrie?

I wondered if she actually meant that. 

18 hours ago, Toothbrush said:

Guthrie only would have elicited a BMS in the other 2 rounds, but I have no idea how it would be handled in FJ. 

Alex's reaction seemed to imply that putting the "A" is what made her answer wrong, but it would have been accepted if she'd just written Guthrie. At least that's what I inferred.

At first I thought Arlo Guthrie, just because I knew it was Guthrie, and 'Arlo' attached itself to the 'Guthrie' without my say-so. It took a couple of seconds for me to push Arlo out of the way and see Woody in his place.

That was a good game with three great contestants.

[Tabasco Cat]

6 hours ago, The Wild Sow said:

Yes!  I thought so too.  Kim Darby was Mattie in the original True Grit.

Years before that she played Miri in the original Star Trek first-season episode of the same name. Originally aired on 27 October 1966.

[SoMuchTV]

Three GFY's and a three-legged cat! I'm all set for the weekend.

[Katy M]

I got the TSs of Robert Langdon, Jane Pauley Graff, Pressing and the Santa Fe Trail.

I only missed 6 clues in the first round.

I said Regina and then changed my answer to Edmonton.  Grr.  And, oddly enough  I changed my answer to Edmonton because I thought it was the Capital of British Columbia.  So, I was totally off.

[Browncoat]

I liked the "If they got married" category!  I even got one of the TS -- Jane Pauley-Graff.  Hee!  And since I do a lot of crossword puzzles, I ran that category, even getting the TS of etui and Sten. 

Totally whiffed FJ, again, some more, as usual.  I must have gotten distracted by the word province, even though the category was cities, and said B.C.  I really have got to start paying better attention!  I got out of the habit of watching for a while there, and haven't really gotten back into it, I guess.  Hopefully, I'll do better next week!

[Jesse]

I'm kind of shocked no one got etui! But maybe you have to be a crossword person Of A Certain Age??

[ABay]

I ruled out Victoria because the name in the clue, which left Regina as the only viable answer. But Winnipeg would have been hilarious.

Now I have The Last Saskatchewan Pirate stuck in my head. "Farmers bar your doors when you see the Jolly Roger on Regina's mighty shores."

Edited June 8, 2019 by ABay

[Halting Hex]

Too bad Brendan took out Emma yesterday, or we could have had a Librarian-Off today.  Oh, well.

He had a decent game, could have been more aggressive on the DDs and blew FJ, but any day over $20K is still good work.

I got Regina after a little thought.  Hard to forget what Big Brother Canada 3 called "the city that rhymes with 'fun'!".

And that "tiny crossword clues" category was right up my etui, except that, like Joseph, I never can tell my apse from my nave.  So I'd have made an apse out of myself, too.