S10.E20: Reunion Part 1

[Gem 10]

5 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

 

Carole didn't announce anything, she let her publicist issue a statement.

She was fired. Had she quit it would have been done during the season while filming. If she had money, she would have walked off set. Bravo told her to get her ass gone and allowed her publicist to issue an ambiguous statement. The statement "I have decided to return to what I do best —  journalism and producing.” No, I quit in sight.

Word on the street:

Carole produced and is starring in a new movie "MeeMaw's Monkey Sex Marathon With The Earl Of Red Onions"

There's no reason for Carole to be sitting at the reunion with a sour puss on her face. For a person who allegedly found her voice she seems to only mutter under her breath.

I can't believe the 10 years ago line she muttered. What Remains was over ten years ago. Her journalistic work was over 15 years ago. Her one night stand with George Clooney was 20 years ago.

I loved how Bethenny shut her down when she was talking to Ramona.

What the hell kind of movie is that?  Something trendy shown down in the village?  Oh, I get it .. you’re joking, duh.

[Persnickety1]

6 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Agree

Dorinda's excuse of Empty Nest Syndrome doesn't explain her wigging out on Heather, nor wigging out on Bethenny and slicing her hand, nor wigging out on Sonja numerous times.

Her mean when drunk have increased in viciousness and times. What bothers me is her disproportionate response/reaction when someone says something to her. It's like you poke her with your finger and she responds by slitting your throat and disemboweling you.

One of Dorinda's worst traits is when she is in a fight or upset with you - she doesn't come direct. She will blab to all of the other housewives. Then if you finally go to her directly - she'll say she's over it, that's now I feel, you were misinformed, person X shouldn't be commenting on my feelings and she just wants to move forward. Then rinse and repeat she'll still talk to the others about you but will leave if you try to directly address it. She did it to Bethenny and she did it to Luann.

I still think her main beef with Sonja is that Sonja reportedly called her fat.  She's really been gunning for her since Carole, the bringer of good cheer, shared that bit of news with her for no apparent reason.  

I think sooner rather than later, Dorinda might find herself with a bright and shiny mugshot if she doesn't get that drinking/temper under control.

Edited August 24, 2018 by Persnickety1

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 hour ago, kicksave said:

Dorinda's husband had an accomplished career...Google him and you will see...Richard Medley. John is a more ordinary guy..nothing like her late husband. In the looks department John is overweight and greasy looking. Richard wasn't a looker either but he was quite the mover and shaker and a veteran too.

Awww. I feel like I need to defend John here. While Richard was indeed a pretty big deal, it isn't like John hasn't been successful. Madame Paulette is no hole-in-the-wall dry cleaner.

He seems like a decent enough guy. I get a vibe that he is the type that makes every casual acquaintance feel like a best friend.

It is obvious that he loves Dorinda more than she loves him.

[KungFuBunny]

33 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

One thing I forgot to bring up that I can add to your list.  The woman who sang the titties song in the cabaret act (Bridgette Everett) asked Dorinda if she could sing and she said she could do it all.  I think she was very peeved she wasn't asked to be part of the show.  She was just one giant ball of seething jealousy this season with a side of massive shit stirrer.  

I brought that up on the Finale thread - I also posted a video of Luann & Dorinda doing a skit on Avenue Q.

She is pissed Luann chose her arch nemesis Sonya over herself the loyal, ride or die, almost got arrested and Books & Bar for you.

[kicksave]

4 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Awww. I feel like I need to defend John here. While Richard was indeed a pretty big deal, it isn't like John hasn't been successful. Madame Paulette is no hole-in-the-wall dry cleaner.

He seems like a decent enough guy. I get a vibe that he is the type that makes every casual acquaintance feel like a best friend.

It is obvious that he loves Dorinda more than she loves him.

Hmmm...he just gives me a skeevy vibe.

[Natalie68]

2 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I brought that up on the Finale thread - I also posted a video of Luann & Dorinda doing a skit on Avenue Q.

She is pissed Luann chose her arch nemesis Sonya over herself the loyal, ride or die, almost got arrested and Books & Bar for you.

Must have missed it!

[Sharonana]

50 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

Wrinkles on my neck too, but facially I'm doing at 51. I also use collagen powder in my coffee every morning and my hair stylist actually commented once about my hair being thicker.  I truly think it was the collagen powder that helped!

I originally started using it for joint pain. The fact that it's good for skin, nails and hair is definitely a plus! :)

[Gem 10]

8 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Awww. I feel like I need to defend John here. While Richard was indeed a pretty big deal, it isn't like John hasn't been successful. Madame Paulette is no hole-in-the-wall dry cleaner.

He seems like a decent enough guy. I get a vibe that he is the type that makes every casual acquaintance feel like a best friend.

It is obvious that he loves Dorinda more than she loves him.

Yes, he loves her, and she’s using him for taking her out, listening to her, getting her clothes, etc.  She keeps talking about Richard in front of him which is rude.  I feel bad for the guy.  If she really cared for him, she would at least live with him like he wants.  I think if something better came along, she would dump John.

[KungFuBunny]

Watch What Crappens

Nutcrackers, Drunks and Jill Zarin

https://www.acast.com/watchwhatcrappens/-777rhony-nutcrackers-drunks-andjillzarin-livefrompalmbeach

[ShawnaLanne]

3 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

Agreed about Dorinda and how, sometimes, she's way more attractive than others. I think her first season hair, color and length, were the most flattering. The platinum blond makes her look old, imo.

I think John is better looking than Richard. He has a more handsome face (albeit chubby), and I, personally, am more attracted to men with straight teeth. It's a thing for me, sorry, not sorry. He seems to really adore Dorinda, and I wish she would appreciate that more.

Look, I get the sleazy thing with John, but Kristen was ok grinding up against him until he put his hands on her hips? and, seriously, what about Aviva's dad George? John is NOTHING compared to what George, literally, brought to the (dinner) table. 

He's not my type at all, but I feel kind of bad for him. 

I get the sleezy thing too, but he's not even in the same universe as Aviva's dad, George. 

What I was obliquely referring to is he looks like he'd be more active sexually.

He is better looking, not my type, but there. Richard was more accomplished and had higher status. I think the difference is that Dorinda adored Richard (he likely adored her too) and John adores Dorinda.

Edited August 24, 2018 by ShawnaLanne

[funnygirl]

8 hours ago, mwell345 said:

Also found this picture - I guess this is when they "toast" at the end of the reunion (the thing Bethenny refused to do a couple of reunions ago).  Look at Andy and Carole.  He IS pissed.

 

 

Look at Slurinda eyeing her glass. She looks far too excited to take a drink. 

[ShawnaLanne]

2 hours ago, kicksave said:

Dorinda's husband had an accomplished career...Google him and you will see...Richard Medley. John is a more ordinary guy..nothing like her late husband. In the looks department John is overweight and greasy looking. Richard wasn't a looker either but he was quite the mover and shaker and a veteran too.

F Andy Cohen...

I was commenting on the fact that he looks, which can be deceiving, like he'd be more energetic in bed.

[KungFuBunny]

11 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I was commenting on the fact that he looks, which can be deceiving, like he'd be more energetic in bed.

Are you referring to John Mahdessian?

[Gem 10]

22 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I get the sleezy thing too, but he's not even in the same universe as Aviva's dad, George. 

What I was obliquely referring to is he looks like he'd be more active sexually.

He is better looking, not my type, but there. Richard was more accomplished and had higher statud. I think the difference is that Dorinda adored Richard (he likely adored her too) and John adores Dorinda.

Ha.  I could just picture Dorinda and John sexually.  She’d be sloppy drunk, clothes half off, makeup all over her face sayin “ Richard, Richard, Richard”.  Dorinda adores Dorinda.

[jaync]

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She can't.  Her Bravo contract contains an NDA that limits what she can write and/or say.

There is no contract if Carole is no longer on Bravo's payroll. Carole can't be kept from speaking about her experience while she was on the show, which is different than disclosing spoilers  before the season airs. If she says/writes something that Bravo or Andy considers slanderous/libelous, then it's on them to prove their case.

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He IS pissed.

Better than being pissed on. Although, that might not be something Andy minds, especially if the piss comes from Beth's bladder.

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Had she quit it would have been done during the season while filming.

No, she wouldn't have, because that would've been a breach of contract, which would've been costly. Bravo, however, could've fired Carole during filming if they had wanted, which of course they didn't. 

Bottom line, it's not fact at this point that Carole was fired, no matter how many times and ways it's stated.

[AnnA]

1 minute ago, jaync said:

There is no contract if Carole is no longer on Bravo's payroll. Carole can't be kept from speaking about her experience while she was on the show, which is different than disclosing spoilers  before the season airs. If she says/writes something that Bravo or Andy considers slanderous/libelous, then it's on them to prove their case.

This isn't about spoilers.    There's no expiration on the NDA - Non Disclosure Agreement.

[ichbin]

8 hours ago, mwell345 said:

Look at Andy and Carole.  He IS pissed.

So does she.  

[Chit Chat]

6 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Tinsley has said many things during her seasons on the show. IIRC she said a man called her boobs "little uglies" I'm not sure who she is referring to - is it Topper, Nico, or one of the guys she dated during the other reality show she was on. When she and Carole were getting massages and then going down to the sauna - she said she doesn't want to get naked in front of anyone ever. She couldn't relax while getting a massage.

That's a real shame too.  It only takes one jerk to make a woman feel so insecure about her body.  Not that I've seen her naked, but she appears to have a lovely figure.  Rock on in your princess dresses, Tinsley!  You bring a much needed spark of light to a group which can be a bunch of harpies at times.

[Persnickety1]

32 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I was commenting on the fact that he looks, which can be deceiving, like he'd be more energetic in bed.

Especially with the Viagra he pops and goes all night, according to Ramona.  

Ugh, now I need to go bleach my brain.

[ShawnaLanne]

24 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Are you referring to John Mahdessian?

Mwa ha ha ha ha! Can you imagine how much he sweats?

13 minutes ago, ichbin said:

So does she.  

She looks frightened to me.

[jaync]

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There's no expiration on the NDA - Non Disclosure Agreement.

So, you're privy to Carole's contract, and know exactly what it entails?

I'm pretty sure Alex had a podcast where she discussed BTS info, and to my knowledge, she wasn't sued for breaking an NDA.

[KungFuBunny]

29 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Ha.  I could just picture Dorinda and John sexually.  She’d be sloppy drunk, clothes half off, makeup all over her face sayin “ Richard, Richard, Richard”.  Dorinda adores Dorinda.

 

10 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Mwa ha ha ha ha! Can you imagine how much he sweats?

[Gem 10]

On 8/22/2018 at 8:33 PM, AnnA said:

Ah Ha!    Dorinda admitted Bethenny thanked her for the nutcracker but just not enough "on camera." 

OMG, the more I watch Dorinda, the more I dislike her.  She would be so much work as a friend.  A person would be on pins and needles.  She would have to be complemented  in front of an audience, kissed assed if she did you a favor, and you would have to beware when she’s drinking.  So exhausting.

[jaync]

I still want to know the deal with Dorinda almost getting arrested. Andy is such a slack ass host.

[BodhiGurl]

2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Watch What Crappens

Nutcrackers, Drunks and Jill Zarin

https://www.acast.com/watchwhatcrappens/-777rhony-nutcrackers-drunks-andjillzarin-livefrompalmbeach

ermahgerd the voices they do... especially Carole... LMAO... (I haven't listened to them before - doh!)

[KungFuBunny]

38 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

That's a real shame too.  It only takes one jerk to make a woman feel so insecure about her body.  Not that I've seen her naked, but she appears to have a lovely figure.  Rock on in your princess dresses, Tinsley!  You bring a much needed spark of light to a group which can be a bunch of harpies at times.

So true. My girlfriend hates dresses - if she wears them - they have to be long as in almost down to her ankles. This is because when she was 14 some guy not even a boyfriend said your legs look funny - like they're crooked.

Reunion Part 2 - they are going to talk more about Tinsley/Scott. She needs to cut her losses with him and find someone else.

A better shot of Tinsley's reunion ensemble - I posted it over on the Tinsley thread

[mwell345]

39 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

She looks frightened to me.

Yes - she looks like she's been summoned to the principal's office.  

[film noire]

15 hours ago, QuinnM said:

 Hopefully things will get so out of control that we actually end up hearing why the F Carole is so pissed at Bethenny.

I know why Carole is pissed at Betheny; because Frankel behaved like a two-faced, backstabbing bitch all season. Because Frankel happily trashed her supposed "dear friend" Carole on camera (and did so long before Carole caught on, while Carole was still complimenting and defending Frankel to people). Because Carole gave Frankel five thousand dollars for Puerto Rico, and asked friends with private planes to help, even as Frankel acted like Carole blew her off and gave her no support. Because Bethenny thought it was funny to turn Anthony Radizwill into a punchline; because Bethenny was a rude bitch about Adam; because Betheny is not the friend Radziwill thought she was, and she finally realized Frankel is a pitbull of a human being, ready to savage and turn on anybody in her path, for no reason at all.

That's more than enough for me to get where Radiziwill is coming from --  I'd feel a deep, clean rage at any human being who did one of those things to me, never mind repeated emotional attacks meant to gaslight, undermine and humiliate me; and all coming from someone who spouts "I love you" with all the sincerity of a pimp.

It's funny, we talk about men abusing women in this culture, but rarely about the Bethennys of the world; the way women like her love breaking down other women, love shaming them, mocking them, trying to rob them of confidence and the ability to coherently defend themselves against the hateful verbal onslaught coming their way.

What's even funnier is how --  if Frankel were a man --  her abuse would have ended her career years ago. 

10 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

 Once your attitude about being fired is "don't threaten me with a good time," you tend to give zero fucks and tend to say whatever you want

Isn't it perfect that the one woman who genuinely gave zero fucks was not wannabe Frankel, but Carole?

Edited August 25, 2018 by film noire

[WordsWordsWords]

As usual, I'm late to the party.

I don't have much to add. I do want to say this again. I've seen alcoholism up close and personal in my immediate and extended family. I've seen funny, attractive people become ugly, angry, vile, and hateful when they were drunk. Dorinda is no just occasionally drunk. She is A drunk. If she doesn't acknowledge this and get help, she'll end up with mugshots, bad publicity, ruined relationships, and the whole nine yards.

Until this season, I always rather liked Carole. She's let her jealousy override her common sense, I think. Too bad. Whether she should have been jealous of Bethenny is another story entirely.

That's all I've got on this episode.

[AnnA]

1 hour ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I was commenting on the fact that he looks, which can be deceiving, like he'd be more energetic in bed.

 

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

Are you referring to John Mahdessian?

 

1 hour ago, Gem 10 said:

Ha.  I could just picture Dorinda and John sexually.  She’d be sloppy drunk, clothes half off, makeup all over her face sayin “ Richard, Richard, Richard”.  Dorinda adores Dorinda.

Ugh!     Now how am I going to get that image out of my head?

[Gem 10]

On 8/22/2018 at 9:59 PM, KungFuBunny said:

A better view of Ramona's and Dorinda's reunion ensembles

RaNoodle is rocking her TeleTubbie belly

And wig from the Marilyn Monroe collection at K- Mart.

[Gem 10]

45 minutes ago, jaync said:

I still want to know the deal with Dorinda almost getting arrested. Andy is such a slack ass host.

I think she hit somebody?  Not sure, anybody know for sure?

[biakbiak]

6 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

I think she hit somebody?  Not sure, anybody know for sure?

Oh I wonder if she is talking about her screaming fight with Harry Durbin at The Regency. A shoe was involved but she didn’t hit him.

Edited August 24, 2018 by biakbiak

[SuprSuprElevated]

3 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Awww. I feel like I need to defend John here. While Richard was indeed a pretty big deal, it isn't like John hasn't been successful. Madame Paulette is no hole-in-the-wall dry cleaner.

He seems like a decent enough guy. I get a vibe that he is the type that makes every casual acquaintance feel like a best friend.

It is obvious that he loves Dorinda more than she loves him.

He's made some questionable moves, and said some questionable things, mostly while under the influence.  Relatively sure that there is no one on the show that is immune from that indictment.  I don't mind him either.

[chewycandy]

3 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

If she really cared for him, she would at least live with him like he wants.  

What about what she wants? 

[ryebread]

30 minutes ago, film noire said:

That's more than enough for me to get where Radiziwll is coming from --  I'd feel a deep, clean rage at any human being who did one of those things to me, never mind repeated emotional attacks meant to gaslight, undermine and humiliate me; and all coming from someone who spouts "I love you" with all the sincerity of a pimp.

 

Carole got burned by Bethenny for sure. I'd be mad too. But she's got no one to blame but herself.

Carole was complicit in the bad behavior of her former besties, Heather and Bethenny.  She was fine with Beth's abuse until it was directed at her.  She was fine with the way Heather treated others as long as she wasn't in the line of fire.

We saw Carole try to gaslight Tinsley. Did she learn that from Bethenny? And now Carole is cozying up to Dorinda.  Dorinda. Jeez.  Dorinda just might rank higher than Beth on the heinous housewife scale.

So, why does Carol continue to gravitate toward these meaner than rattlesnake loudmouths? Is she a follower? Is she desperate for friends? Is she dumb? Or does she possess the same qualities that they do and like attracts like?

Lie with dogs, wake up with fleas. 

[ShawnaLanne]

45 minutes ago, ryebread said:

Carole got burned by Bethenny for sure. I'd be mad too. But she's got no one to blame but herself.

Carole was complicit in the bad behavior of her former besties, Heather and Bethenny.  She was fine with Beth's abuse until it was directed at her.  She was fine with the way Heather treated others as long as she wasn't in the line of fire.

We saw Carole try to gaslight Tinsley. Did she learn that from Bethenny? And now Carole is cozying up to Dorinda.  Dorinda. Jeez.  Dorinda just might rank higher than Beth on the heinous housewife scale.

So, why does Carol continue to gravitate toward these meaner than rattlesnake loudmouths? Is she a follower? Is she desperate for friends? Is she dumb? Or does she possess the same qualities that they do and like attracts like?

Lie with dogs, wake up with fleas. 

Carole is a 53 year old woman. She is responsible for all her own actions and has been for a long time.

I think that Carole posses' a cruelty to her that neither Heather nor Bethenny do.

Edited August 25, 2018 by ShawnaLanne

[Gem 10]

21 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

What about what she wants? 

She has what she wants.  No strings attached.

[Jel]

I maintain that Carole's main problem is right fighting. She's very low key about it, granted, but it is there.  I also think she's of the belief that you can never say anything bad about a friend, and she's not wrong about that, but sometimes friends talk to friends about other friends in less than kind ways because they are annoyed or pissed, but they don't do that with cameras there.  That part is on Bethenny.

Having said that, I still need a list of all the "bad" things Bethenny said about Carole because I don't remember anything out of the ordinary from her, nothing other than typical Beth-isms, which Carole knew about since she had been friends with her for a few years and Bethenny says those kinds of things on the reg.  Further to that, I think Bethenny actually said very few things like that about Carole. (Aww but then I recall the horror of the time Bethenny asked Carole's ex-boyfriend to go to PR to take pictures, without first consulting with Carole! "She really did that." (Jel no get.))

She seemed okay with them when they weren't about her, maybe because she didn't actually think Beth was being mean, just that she was being her typical blunt, rather insensitive self by just making her all-important observations (being a person who feels she cannot deprive anyone, least of all the viewing audience, of even one thought).  Perhaps she thought Bethenny was just expressing her own thoughts to a girlfriend.  But Carole doesn't get to be all cool with it about others and then indignant about it when it's directed at her because that's hypocritical. And now she's pissed and she's right fighting about it and many of us are thinking WTF? Because we just don't see the sudden problem.

[bagger]

2 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

ermahgerd the voices they do... especially Carole... LMAO... (I haven't listened to them before - doh!)

Everyone should listen to them. They are hysterical and whether they love or hate the housewife they go after all of them. 

[Gem 10]

On 8/23/2018 at 4:15 PM, Gem 10 said:

Right.  As I said before, my daughters friend passed Ramoaner on the sidewalk without makeup and hair all undone and messy, and said she looked horrible .. not like on t.v.

Most importantly, I didn’t mention this was the day after was in the N.Y. Post, p. 6 seen dancing with a young guy at Gurneys in Montauk.  I mean Ramona and the young guy.  That is why she didn’t look so hot.

[ryebread]

1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

Oh I wonder if she is talking about her screaming fight with Harry Durbin at The Regency. A shoe was involved but she didn’t hit him.

I believe this is a separate incident. She named the place where she almost got arrested for Lu and it wasn't the Regency.

How is it that Doris doesn't have a mugshot yet?? Maybe all her connections have helped to keep her her out of the pokey.

[KungFuBunny]

The Countess watches RHONY Reunion Part 1

Hashtag Jovani - Hah!

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, BodhiGurl said:

ermahgerd the voices they do... especially Carole... LMAO... (I haven't listened to them before - doh!)

 

13 minutes ago, bagger said:

Everyone should listen to them. They are hysterical and whether they love or hate the housewife they go after all of them. 

I love Ronnie and Ben.

They do ALL Bravo shows and some of their impressions of other franchises sound the same.

Dorinda is their Kim Richards but full of rage

Erika Jayne and Tom Sandoval are the same.

I love their Oh Carole - when they do the Countess.

Ramona is a classic with Geraldine Parsonsnip stories...and Oh Kaay?

[ButterQueen]

On 8/23/2018 at 9:18 AM, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I have LONG believed her Dad's connections helped with Beam.  Louis Lazzinnaro was the guy at the track. He was one of Bobby  Frankel's closest confidants and was at his bedside when he was dying, LL is hooked up in Saratoga and in the racing world, and one of Bobby Frankel's prominent (horse) owners. He was described in an early article as like a sibling to Bethenny also. Bethenny had his wife on her talk show on an entrepreneur segment promoting her cheesecakes. I always felt she was passing off this lady as a stranger, lady bountiful helping a fellow woman entrepreneur. BS she was the wife of someone who was like a sibling to Bethenny. Fake fake fake.  Bethenny can talk all she wants about making it on her own. She didn't. Ramona was right to point out at reunion how her wealthy father paid for college and cars. Bethenny said NOTHING when Ramona accused her of that. Very telling. It was her best way out. 

Beth’s biggest lies are the “woe is me....raised by wolves”.  I read one of her books, and she was definitely a privileged child.

[Gem 10]

So, when Ramona was walking into the reunion, she was talking to Mario on the phone.  I’m sure he was wishing her good luck for the reunion?   Guess they keep in touch, which is nice.  You never know.

[WhoaWhoKnew]

2 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

Beth’s biggest lies are the “woe is me....raised by wolves”.  I read one of her books, and she was definitely a privileged child.

She can be privileged and still have had shitbag parents. 

[Lemons]

13 hours ago, mwell345 said:

Here's a full length pic of Bethenny's reunion dress. Pretty sure it is that one @yourmomiseasy

 

 

Their lighting on the show must be great.   She looks her age in this photo but on the show they always look younger than their ages.  

[Sunfield]

12 hours ago, QuinnM said:

I just think that Andy’s pure blind anger at Carole is out of proportion for what we’ve seen.  So I’ve developed another theory.  My previous theory is about why Carole is so mad at Bethenny.  It’s out of proportion.  

Carole is so pissed at Bethenny that she decides to take her out.  She starts enlisting her Angry Birds.  Ramona is all in on that.  She loves to be included.  Dorinda is in because Luann will be on the other team.  I’m sure lots of HWs in lots of franchises plan together.  But Carole ramped it up.  Perhaps having meetings complete with 3 year old Trader Joe appetizers.  And someone squealed to Andy.  Maybe someone, Tinsley, actually played Deep Throat and reported daily what Carole was planning.  Andy, egomaniac that he is, was livid that someone was planning to take over HIS reunion.  So Andy calls Bethenny and gives her the heads up.  Works with her on how to handle it.  Assures her ‘he’s got her back’.

Carole walks in all full of herself, Dream Team, I’ve got your back etc.  And the very first thing to happen is Andy giving her the death stare for her phone ringing.

That’s my Andy/Carole theory.  Hopefully things will get so out of control that we actually end up hearing why the F Carole is so pissed at Bethenny.

Ohhhh this makes a lot of sense. Remembering Bethenny talking from her make up chair right before it started, she seemed to know they were nearly all against her. 

[Sunfield]

1 hour ago, ryebread said:

Carole got burned by Bethenny for sure. I'd be mad too. But she's got no one to blame but herself.

Carole was complicit in the bad behavior of her former besties, Heather and Bethenny.  She was fine with Beth's abuse until it was directed at her.  She was fine with the way Heather treated others as long as she wasn't in the line of fire.

We saw Carole try to gaslight Tinsley. Did she learn that from Bethenny? And now Carole is cozying up to Dorinda.  Dorinda. Jeez.  Dorinda just might rank higher than Beth on the heinous housewife scale.

So, why does Carol continue to gravitate toward these meaner than rattlesnake loudmouths? Is she a follower? Is she desperate for friends? Is she dumb? Or does she possess the same qualities that they do and like attracts like?

Lie with dogs, wake up with fleas. 

This reminded me of the season when they flew to a private island. Luann met the Johnny Depp lookalike pirate guy? Carole was dating a musician and he stopped in one night. When she greeted him at his car below the house, she was referring to the other women in less than kind, derogatory terms. She was saying he had to rescue her. It was clear Carole thought she was better than them. I brushed these things off because of her professional background and i didn’t think Carole was mean. Hindsight and all that regarding Carole has been a bit sad.