The Duggars and Their World: Fashion, Food, Finance, Schoolin’ and Child Rearin'

[Mollie]

23 hours ago, ginger90 said:

The defendants have 30 days to respond.  There have been civil cases that have taken 10 years, 10 freaking years! And in a civil case the defendant,  or the plaintiff can appeal.

Right.  And for some of the defendants, that 30 days hasn't even started yet.  

In addition to the known defendants, the 4 sisters are suing ten 'John Doe' people, whose names the girls' attorneys didn't even know but were looking to ascertain when the lawsuit was filed.  These are described as "photographers, editors, distributors, retailers, attorneys, employees of the Police Department, City Attorney's Office, Sheriff's Office and County Attorney's Office, and others involved in the acts, occurrences and events alleged in this Complaint, and are liable to Plaintiffs therefore."

Whoever those people are, they have to be identified, served and then given the statutory time in which to file an Answer. 

Jim Bob has been planning this lawsuit for two years and the papers were filed before he even had the names of all of the people he wanted to sue.  The Pleadings ask to be able to amend the Complaint when they figure that out.  So, at this time, we don't even know when the 30-day clock started/starts to tick for all of the defendants.  It starts for each defendant when that defendant is served.

Edited May 31, 2017 by Mollie

[Celia Rubenstein]

12 minutes ago, Mollie said:

In addition to the known defendants, the 4 sisters are suing ten 'John Doe' people, whose names the girls' attorneys didn't even know but were looking to ascertain when the lawsuit was filed.  These are described as "photographers, editors, distributors, retailers, attorneys, employees of the Police Department, City Attorney's Office, Sheriff's Office and County Attorney's Office, and others involved in the acts, occurrences and events alleged in this Complaint, and are liable to Plaintiffs therefore." ...

Jim Bob has been planning this lawsuit for two years and the papers were filed before he even had the names of all of the people he wanted to sue.  

That's not uncommon when suing a corporation or large organization and you don't know the names of all the employees and sub-contractors that may have been involved.  Lawyers include language like you quoted as a sort of space holder in their pleadings so they can fill in those names later after they are revealed during discovery.  It's not a sign Jim Bob was chomping at the bit to get this lawsuit filed.  If he was, I would have think he would have seen that the case was filed long before the last day before the statute of limitations ran out.

 

14 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

That makes no sense at all. They would have lost the 19 Kids  show even if the daughters had not been the victims -- if some other girls had been the victims, and whether those girls' names had been adequately or inadequately redacted. The cancellation was about the behavior of Josh, JB and M. Not about anything related to knowing or not knowing the victims' names.  I can't see how it could be otherwise. 

I'm not saying that they can't claim any damages here. I'm talking about these particular damages.

I think you are totally right about this.  They will never be able to conclusively link the cancellation of the show to the release of the reports.  It's the fact that Josh was a molester that got their show about what a perfect family they are cancelled. And the girls being made the focus of a new show also undercuts any argument about deserving damages for lost income from the show.  The fact that their new show may not be doing as well and they don't earn as much for it is really on them (and Josh the 'rents), not on the defendants. 

[kalamac]

Article from someone raised in a Duggar-like environment who got out (theirs was Protestant, not Baptist, but had the same 'teenage daughter schooling younger siblings' setup).

https://www.autostraddle.com/why-speaking-out-against-christofascism-is-really-complicated-379557/

I found this paragraph interesting:

"In my own family, I was afforded just enough freedom to feel like I was making choices and thinking for myself. This is a tactic in cult-like environments to make it harder for people to leave, because they don’t see the coercion infused in the language of their tribe. Quivering Daughters introduced the concept of double-bind to me as bounded choice and explained how these are used within families to keep adult children tied to them."

And again, we see where the Duggar parents are failing in their own chosen path, as kids raised in these cults are supposed to be able to "persuasively respond to those who question their beliefs" - Most of the JKids can't speak coherently, let alone persuasively.

[GeeGolly]

Even if when the Duggar 4 are deposed they're asked about their sex lives, there's not much there. The deposing lawyers will be met with blushing giggles of very vanilla answers. If they ask questions regarding the M Kelly interview, again, not much there either. It's not like the Duggar girls have all these secrets to expose - In Touch and the NWA city officials did that for them.

Maybe they'll dig up Jessa's sordid past of kicking a bunk-bed?

I have a feeling that lawyers on both sides will leave the depositions shaking their heads thinking what the hell did we just hear - "season of life", "God's blessings", and what the hell is a "sideways hug"?!

[lascuba]

Yes, I really doubt anything new with regards to the molestations is going to come out in the depositions. What else is left? Even things about their personal and sex lives...meh. It's going to be a whole lot of confirmation bias for us and a whole lot of outraged embarrassment for them.

The real meat is in the financial and general TLC information, because that stuff has always been the big unknown. It's also going to be interesting to see how they handle any questions, because their lawyer will try to prepare them, but they've always been allowed to get away with non-answers. Follow up questions and urgings to answer the actual questions asked is going to throw them, especially since they know that a lot of this will be public. I can imagine them getting defensive and flustered when the lawyers push.

[Marigold]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I have a feeling that lawyers on both sides will leave the depositions shaking their heads thinking what the hell did we just hear - "season of life", "God's blessings", and what the hell is a "sideways hug"?!

This made me laugh!  I can just see it...

Sideways hug!  Not to be confused with a horizontal hug....  (hey, hey, hey!)

[bigskygirl]

Don't forget "Practice makes Progress, and Progress Makes Babies"

My dream is JB, Michelle and Josh are put in a small boat with leaks out to sea without any one around and enough food and water to last for a few weeks, and we never hear from them again. Jana gets married to a nice guy and takes over the family finances and gets the younger siblings the proper health care, emotional care and education. The older kids get their education needs met and go off to college or a good trade school. None of the unmarried kids rush off to get married and start having kids right and left. The boys join the military or learn a good trade in order to provide for their small families, and their wives find hobbies or jobs instead of popping out kids right and left. Jill and Derick get the counseling they need, and Derick finds a nice job to support his small family. Ben gets his head out of his you know what and finally realizes he needs to get the right type of schooling to support his family. The grandchildren are going to school and have the opportunities their parents never had. Of course, they all get the counseling and support they need due to the neglect and abuse from their idiot parents.

[Marigold]

(I write a lot of reports for work and listen to all sorts of youtube things to keep me company...just so you don't think I'm nuts)

Yesterday I listened to the entire Megyn Kelly interview.  

Jill said "licensed counselor" a few times. It was clear that she was instructed to say "licensed" counselor. 

Jessa said they will be seeking legal action. 

Edited May 31, 2017 by Marigold

[Sew Sumi]

We know that they can work off of a script We have seen that since the beginning. I expect the depositions to go equally robotically

[SMama]

Do you think they will keep their robotic stride when asked an unexpected question? The Megyn Kelley interview like all others, was softball questions. FFS MEchelle and Jill had notes on their laps. What happens when they are pressed? Maybe I'm wrong.

[Marigold]

 I think Jessa can go off script.  Jill looks pretty shaky but I think with a lot of coaching she can pull through.  

Jinger will be lost unless Jeremy can make up for lost IQ points after being raised by Jim Bob. 

Joy? Uh... (crickets chirping) 

[PikaScrewChu]

I wonder why they went with the two law firms listed in the suit. Normally the bigwigs hand down these kind of lawsuits as scraps to the minions trying to survive. I am not implying this suit is not winnable or without merit but the one law firm touts working with Disney and other huge corporations. High powered doesn't always mean you get a win or competent counsel (as Jilly Muffin tweeting about the lawsuit shows). YMMV though.

Edited May 31, 2017 by PikaScrewChu

[GeeGolly]

7 hours ago, lascuba said:

Yes, I really doubt anything new with regards to the molestations is going to come out in the depositions. What else is left? Even things about their personal and sex lives...meh. It's going to be a whole lot of confirmation bias for us and a whole lot of outraged embarrassment for them.

The real meat is in the financial and general TLC information, because that stuff has always been the big unknown. It's also going to be interesting to see how they handle any questions, because their lawyer will try to prepare them, but they've always been allowed to get away with non-answers. Follow up questions and urgings to answer the actual questions asked is going to throw them, especially since they know that a lot of this will be public. I can imagine them getting defensive and flustered when the lawyers push.

Answers regarding finances will be based on facts and figures; what they were making, projected earnings if the documents weren't released, what they make now, and how they came to these calculations. They won't have to recite that from memory, they can have a spreadsheet in their hands when they answer those. 

What's the most damning thing they can say, "My dad's accountant figured all this out for us"? 

Harder and more abstract answers is how they explain that the release of the documents negatively impacted their finances. If they believe what they're saying is true, I don't see this being difficult for them.

[Mollie]

44 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

I wonder why they went with the two law firms listed in the suit. Normally the bigwigs hand down these kind of lawsuits as scraps to the minions trying to survive. I am not implying this suit is not winnable or without merit but the one law firm touts working with Disney and other huge corporations. High powered doesn't always mean you get a win or competent counsel (as Jilly Muffin tweeting about the lawsuit shows). YMMV though.

They probably hired the California law firm because of its civil litigation experience.  No doubt, someone referred the Duggars to them.  Because they are not licensed in Arkansas, the Duggars are also represented by the Arkansas attorneys.  Because the 4 sisters sued so many people, there will probably be more attorneys in the courtroom than jurors. 

[Marigold]

I'm a legal idiot.  I rely on you guys to explain this to me.  Seems you need a lot of legal knowledge to keep up on the Duggar boards! (how disgusting is that?)

I guess the questions won't be very complicated.  Just explaining how it impacts your life and reconciling previous public statements. Their lawyers can prep them for that. 

Edited May 31, 2017 by Marigold

[PikaScrewChu]

23 minutes ago, Mollie said:

They probably hired the California law firm because of its civil litigation experience.  No doubt, someone referred the Duggars to them.  Because they are not licensed in Arkansas, the Duggars are also represented by the Arkansas attorneys.  Because the 4 sisters sued so many people, there will probably be more attorneys in the courtroom than jurors. 

And every law firm in Arkansas starts seeing $$$.

More attorneys in the courtroom than rappers on the latest DJ Khaled track.

[RedheadZombie]

6 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

Don't forget "Practice makes Progress, and Progress Makes Babies"

My dream is JB, Michelle and Josh are put in a small boat with leaks out to sea without any one around and enough food and water to last for a few weeks, and we never hear from them again. Jana gets married to a nice guy and takes over the family finances and gets the younger siblings the proper health care, emotional care and education. The older kids get their education needs met and go off to college or a good trade school. None of the unmarried kids rush off to get married and start having kids right and left. The boys join the military or learn a good trade in order to provide for their small families, and their wives find hobbies or jobs instead of popping out kids right and left. Jill and Derick get the counseling they need, and Derick finds a nice job to support his small family. Ben gets his head out of his you know what and finally realizes he needs to get the right type of schooling to support his family. The grandchildren are going to school and have the opportunities their parents never had. Of course, they all get the counseling and support they need due to the neglect and abuse from their idiot parents.

And Jana and the little girls are never again saddled with their sisters' children. 

[lascuba]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Answers regarding finances will be based on facts and figures; what they were making, projected earnings if the documents weren't released, what they make now, and how they came to these calculations. They won't have to recite that from memory, they can have a spreadsheet in their hands when they answer those. 

What's the most damning thing they can say, "My dad's accountant figured all this out for us"? 

Harder and more abstract answers is how they explain that the release of the documents negatively impacted their finances. If they believe what they're saying is true, I don't see this being difficult for them.

I meant that they'd probably get flustered overall, not specifically over the financial questions. I just can't see them dealing well with being asked the same questions over and over and not having people just take what they say at face value...they have zero experience  in being called out on their non answers. Though the question about having to explain how the documents impacted their finances is a good one, because, for Jill and Jessa at least, they got that one season with their names on the title, and even if the total per episode payment is less than 19kac, there's also less people on the show, so probably not so much less per individual. Allegedly. Honestly, I'm excited for this lawsuit because I REALLY want to know how the Duggars distribute the TLC money. I hope the lawyers really dig in there and look at where exactly that money goes ones TLC hands it over. 

[SMama]

Thank you @lascuba, I was unable to get my point across. They are used to be taken at their word, it is incredibly frustrating to be asked the same question, in various forms. The Duggars have had it easy for so long, I just wondered what the pressure from the defendants' attorneys would do. 

[hathorlive]

On 4/7/2017 at 2:51 PM, Tabbygirl521 said:

Personally, I would be drinking bourbon. And THEN visiting the Ark. 

Late to the KY post but if you like nature try Cumberland falls in Southern KY.  Its only one of two locations in the world where you can see the moon bow.  The other is in Victoria Falls.   Lots of hiking and the lodge is very nice. 

 

In Louisville, go see the Louisville Slugger museum  and Churchill Downs.  In Lexington, do the Horse park and Ashland, the home of Henry Clay.

As for our dear Creation Museum...other than the man riding the dinosaur in a saddle, take time to watch the movie about Adam and Eve.  The actor playing Adam is a gay porn star.  Mountains of giggles to be had.

[hathorlive]

On 5/31/2017 at 5:11 PM, GeeGolly said:

Answers regarding finances will be based on facts and figures; what they were making, projected earnings if the documents weren't released, what they make now, and how they came to these calculations. They won't have to recite that from memory, they can have a spreadsheet in their hands when they answer those. 

What's the most damning thing they can say, "My dad's accountant figured all this out for us"? 

Harder and more abstract answers is how they explain that the release of the documents negatively impacted their finances. If they believe what they're saying is true, I don't see this being difficult for them.

OH I think that's going to be the interesting part.  If they want to show lost revenue, they have to show revenue earned over the years.  If they want to say we lost 1 million in revenue and they list speaking gigs, did they declare that income?  Jim Bob always seems to be looking for an angle (home as church no property taxes), so did he cut any corners? Did he under report income to avoid taxes.  That's where I think the interesting stuff will be.  The smartest guy in the room always gets caught by the taxman.

Or not.  It's all wait and see.  But we will probably get a lot of insight into the Duggar family.  And if every deposition answer is "I don't know, my dad takes care of the money," the next logical question is "then how did you come up with 15 million dollars in damages".  She didn't, her dad did.  And that leads us back into the "are you upset because your privacy as a reality TV show was blown or are you upset that people now know that reality is a total lie from what you TV show portrays."

I'm not a lawyer but I spend a LOT of time in court.  I'm an expert witness in state and federal court.  And while I've done this ten years, it never stops freaking me out when I go to testify.  It's a very strange situation that 95% of people will never experience in their lives.  It doesn't matter that the opposing lawyers don't know jack expletive about what I do, they tear you apart and tear your answers apart, trying to get you to slip up.  And while this is the Duggars personal lives, it's just a game to the lawyers.

I sat in the witness room waiting to testify in January and I was talking to the victim in a case.  She was freaking out about testifying.  I had to tell her that it is a weird situation.  But just go tell your story and follow the lawyers prompts.  It's invasive for any normal person, so I think that's why some of us feel that the J girls will be a mess in both depositions and trial if it comes to that.

[Absolom]

28 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

(home as church no property taxes),

Sorry, but that one has never been true.  The Duggars have been paying regular property taxes all along.

[hathorlive]

Just now, Absolom said:

Sorry, but that one has never been true.  The Duggars have been paying regular property taxes all along.

You aren't telling me that the internets lied????? I think I need to go sit in a dark room and take some valium as that soaks in.

Thanks for the correction!

[Absolom]

That's one of the most dearly held and repeated untruths of the Duggar saga and possibly one of the easiest to disprove at the time it started.  :)

[hathorlive]

Just now, Absolom said:

That's one of the most dearly held and repeated untruths of the Duggar saga and possibly one of the easiest to disprove at the time it started.  :)

LOL...but I don't want to disprove anything that might make them LOOK better.  Just kidding.  It's good to know because I swear I've read that for years and years.  Live and learn.  Thanks for letting me know! 

[JoanArc]

1 hour ago, Absolom said:

That's one of the most dearly held and repeated untruths of the Duggar saga and possibly one of the easiest to disprove at the time it started.  :)

I think it's easy to confabulate their 'ministry' with the living trust. Most people aren't financial weasels, unlike Jim Bob.

[Absolom]

Their house wasn't even in a trust at the time the rumor began.  It seemed more like believe anything negative about the Duggars without bothering to even look at the county tax records.

[floridamom]

If I remember correctly, a few years ago, I checked out the county property tax site on the Duggar homestead and I believe they have an 'agricultural exemption' on their property....which means, put a cow or a fruit tree on the property and poof, you pay about 10% of the full tax amount.  Does anyone know if this is currently their situation?

[ginger90]

Regarding taxes. I don't doubt they pay property taxes, but I would guess they take a deduction for a home office. That's legal. As  big as that house is, it wouldn't be much of a percentage,  though.

[PikaScrewChu]

I wonder what's going to happen to that house eventually. We now know why they built it the way they did but the layout for a house that huge is ludicrous. You have the boys' dorm, the girls' dorm, Michelle/Jim Bob's bedroom, and what was Josh's room. Anna is pretty fertile so it's not out of the realm of possibility she and Josh end up with a dozen kids. Same with Benessa. The Dillards won't. I have Derrick walking off into the forest one day and resurfacing three years later in eastern Siberia as the Prophet of a cult in my betting pool.

The only scenario I have is that the Smuggars or Benessa end up in there eventually to house their broods. I can't see anyone willingly buying that place except to have the land.

[RedheadZombie]

8 hours ago, floridamom said:

If I remember correctly, a few years ago, I checked out the county property tax site on the Duggar homestead and I believe they have an 'agricultural exemption' on their property....which means, put a cow or a fruit tree on the property and poof, you pay about 10% of the full tax amount.  Does anyone know if this is currently their situation?

Poor fruit tree!  Poor cow!!  I assume they both withered and died slow deaths from neglect.  

3 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

I wonder what's going to happen to that house eventually. We now know why they built it the way they did but the layout for a house that huge is ludicrous. You have the boys' dorm, the girls' dorm, Michelle/Jim Bob's bedroom, and what was Josh's room. Anna is pretty fertile so it's not out of the realm of possibility she and Josh end up with a dozen kids. Same with Benessa. The Dillards won't. I have Derrick walking off into the forest one day and resurfacing three years later in eastern Siberia as the Prophet of a cult in my betting pool.

The only scenario I have is that the Smuggars or Benessa end up in there eventually to house their broods. I can't see anyone willingly buying that place except to have the land.

I imagine someone might buy the property, tear down the house, and start over.  But doesn't it sit in the middle of nowhere?

[Mollie]

3 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

I wonder what's going to happen to that house eventually. We now know why they built it the way they did but the layout for a house that huge is ludicrous. You have the boys' dorm, the girls' dorm, Michelle/Jim Bob's bedroom, and what was Josh's room. Anna is pretty fertile so it's not out of the realm of possibility she and Josh end up with a dozen kids. Same with Benessa. The Dillards won't. I have Derrick walking off into the forest one day and resurfacing three years later in eastern Siberia as the Prophet of a cult in my betting pool.

The only scenario I have is that the Smuggars or Benessa end up in there eventually to house their broods. I can't see anyone willingly buying that place except to have the land.

It will be turned into another Gothard center.  It's right across the street from the city dump, so I can't imagine that anyone would actually buy it to live in.

[doodlebug]

2 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

Poor fruit tree!  Poor cow!!  I assume they both withered and died slow deaths from neglect.  

I imagine someone might buy the property, tear down the house, and start over.  But doesn't it sit in the middle of nowhere?

Not just the middle of nowhere, it's next to the dump.

[BetyBee]

1 hour ago, Mollie said:

It will be turned into another Gothard center.  It's right across the street from the city dump, so I can't imagine that anyone would actually buy it to live in.

Across from the city dump is a perfect location for a Gothard center!

[ariel]

At one point they showed a picture of cows on their property.  Who's cow they were I don't know.  Like most animals at Chateau Duggar, they suddenly  disappeared & were never heard of again.

[JoanArc]

3 minutes ago, ariel said:

At one point they showed a picture of cows on their property.  Who's cow they were I don't know.  Like most animals at Chateau Duggar, they suddenly  disappeared & were never heard of again.

I think they said it was neighbors cows being allowed to graze.

[ariel]

2 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

I think they said it was neighbors cows being allowed to graze.

I wonder if Jim Boob would milk that (lol) for a tax excempt.

Edited June 4, 2017 by ariel

[Sew Sumi]

Could he, since someone else actually owns the cows and probably pastures them at night? 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Late to the party...still catching up.

I always felt bad for the 4 sisters and the other young ladies about having something so awful and traumatic laid bare for public consumption. Incest/molestation is a dirty shameful secret that takes years (if ever) for the victims to find healing.  We know these girls received no real/meaningful counseling and were forced to forgive their brother.  Then two of them were coached to minimize on national television what happened to them. Jill was in shreds.  I'd personally be humiliated to have a secret I wanted to keep laid bare on national TV.

The backlash these girls got for being forced to do KJBs bidding seemed really unfair to me. Jessa knew what side her bread was buttered on so she minimized it as "over the clothes.., while we were asleep"...had KJB written all over it. What sort of punishment were they threatened with for not following "the script"?

[Sew Sumi]

At that time, JB still held the purse strings. Derick had made some money independently of the show during his year stint at WalMart, but I can't imagine that they'd socked THAT much money away, especially with Izzy to consider. Jessa and Ben were totally reliant on Boob. He could have just said that not staying on script would tear the family apart even worse than the InTouch article had already done. 

Pure speculation here, but we can't discount the financial reliance on Boob when Joshgate hit. Jessa had lined up those Southern Women's shows, but I don't think she'd spoken at any of them yet, so she didn't have that extra bit of cash to fall back on. It still wouldn't have been enough to buy the Mold House from Grandma and assert financial independence. 

[AUgirl]

Jessa was appearing at a Southern Women's Show locally and appeared on a radio show to promote her appearance. She was pregnant with Spurgeon at this time so it's been a while.

She was horrible. The radio hosts led her through the interview but she struggled to string together a coherent sentence. These radio hosts are huge fundie-light hosts and by the end of the interview we're kinda mocking her inability to answer a simple question. 

If her appearances were as bad, I can see why she wasn't asked back to Southern Women's Shows regardless of what her pervy brother did. 

[saylubee]

15 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Could he, since someone else actually owns the cows and probably pastures them at night? 

I'm in Texas, but it's a pretty popular practice to let someone else run cows through your field to claim the AG exemption.  Some people also will plant corn/wheat/whatever on a few acres of a larger property and do absolutely nothing to care or harvest it.  The bar is very, very low on what needs to happen to keep the AG exemption.  I can't imagine Arkansas is that much different.

[Arwen Evenstar]

2 minutes ago, saylubee said:

I'm in Texas, but it's a pretty popular practice to let someone else run cows through your field to claim the AG exemption.  Some people also will plant corn/wheat/whatever on a few acres of a larger property and do absolutely nothing to care or harvest it.  The bar is very, very low on what needs to happen to keep the AG exemption.  I can't imagine Arkansas is that much different.

Exactly...just put a couple of goats or cows on your land to eat the vegetation and you, too, can claim an ag exemption.

[Absolom]

5 minutes ago, saylubee said:

The bar is very, very low on what needs to happen to keep the AG exemption.  I can't imagine Arkansas is that much different.

My parents had it in AR and I can't tell you how.  It seems exceedingly easy to claim.

[BitterApple]

Oh my gosh, guys. So I was just browsing the comments under Joy's honeymoon photos on Duggar Official, and a woman posted a very valid question asking what these girls would do for money should their husbands die early or become disabled. A leghumper responded in a very nasty tone that: Jana is a doula, Jill is a midwife, Jessa is a bestselling author and all the girls are independently wealthy from the TV show. The leghumper also implores the OP to "get her facts straight" before she passes judgment. Exactly what sort of drugs are they spiking the Kool-aid with these days?

[kaleidoscope]

I would love to know what a typical day of schoolin' is like at the SOTDRT.  Is Jana teaching?  Maybe Anna?  Are the littles just propped in front of a computer?  Of course now that it is summer break, I'm sure nothing is going on (kind of like a typical day?).

[GeeGolly]

2 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Oh my gosh, guys. So I was just browsing the comments under Joy's honeymoon photos on Duggar Official, and a woman posted a very valid question asking what these girls would do for money should their husbands die early or become disabled. A leghumper responded in a very nasty tone that: Jana is a doula, Jill is a midwife, Jessa is a bestselling author and all the girls are independently wealthy from the TV show. The leghumper also implores the OP to "get her facts straight" before she passes judgment. Exactly what sort of drugs are they spiking the Kool-aid with these days?

Yeesh, even if the leghumper's "facts" were true, what about all the other helpmeets in the cult? The women who aren't "independently wealthy"? Fundy logic, it twists & turns.

[BitterApple]

7 minutes ago, kaleidoscope said:

I would love to know what a typical day of schoolin' is like at the SOTDRT.  Is Jana teaching?  Maybe Anna?  Are the littles just propped in front of a computer?  Of course now that it is summer break, I'm sure nothing is going on (kind of like a typical day?).

If I had to guess, I'd say the kids are propped in front of the computer where they answer the same multiple choice questions over and over until they click on the right answer and  call it a day. 

[lascuba]

12 minutes ago, kaleidoscope said:

I would love to know what a typical day of schoolin' is like at the SOTDRT.  Is Jana teaching?  Maybe Anna?  Are the littles just propped in front of a computer?  Of course now that it is summer break, I'm sure nothing is going on (kind of like a typical day?).

The Duggars have used tutors to handle the homeschooling for years. That I know of, first it was one of the McQueery's (sp?), and then it was Tabitha. I think doing any "teaching" themselves is considered below the Duggars now, even if it's just keeping track of whatever online program the kids are using. There's no shortage of locals willing to send their daughters to the Duggars to teach in exchange for room and board. 

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, AUgirl said:

Jessa was appearing at a Southern Women's Show locally and appeared on a radio show to promote her appearance. She was pregnant with Spurgeon at this time so it's been a while.

She was horrible. The radio hosts led her through the interview but she struggled to string together a coherent sentence. These radio hosts are huge fundie-light hosts and by the end of the interview we're kinda mocking her inability to answer a simple question. 

If her appearances were as bad, I can see why she wasn't asked back to Southern Women's Shows regardless of what her pervy brother did. 

Remember, at the Southern Women's shows, all of her questions were pre-screened and came either from little kids or old ladies. It was basically "When are you due?" and sage "marriage advice" from a girl not yet married a year. Probably also some lame modest fashion advice. How much time can one spend saying "Cover yourself from clavicle to knee?"

Edited June 4, 2017 by Sew Sumi
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