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2 hours ago, snarkish said:

WHO asks their SO if they like their makeup?? Such an odd thing to ask. I get asking if they like your outfit, or new shoes, but...makeup? I almost think she asked that JUST to get his goat and get him to make a snotty response. 

Am I the only one who understands Pole with no problems without the subtitles? Granted, I work with people from all over the globe, and am used to thick accents (such as Asian and Indian) and have been told I understand some folks that most Americans do not, but still. He doesn't seem to talk very fast...so I don't get it? I also notice these useless subtitles sometimes on 600 Pound Life. 

As for Kreeny's acne and puffy face, I did some internet digging and there was an article on Starcasm that showed some pics of her with a belly bump that were posted on one of Pole's IG accounts and quickly removed. Some quick lurker got a pic of them beforehand, so yes, she is preggo, folks. 

I'm guessing she asked because didn't he make a big deal out of her insane makeup last year?  So she minimized it and looks a lot better and was looking for some positive feedback.  And she does look so much better than last year!  

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2 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I'm guessing she asked because didn't he make a big deal out of her insane makeup last year?  So she minimized it and looks a lot better and was looking for some positive feedback.  And she does look so much better than last year!  

Just another weapon in Herr Jesse’s Toolbox (hehe) of Control: His reactions are inconsistent and unreliable, so Darcy thinks he’s going to be happy that she toned down the makeup like he asked her to do, and then he berates her/verbally slaps her down and she can continue to feel like a beaten dog. This ends up making Darcy meek and constantly walking on eggshells. Nothing is ever good enough and the goalposts keep moving. I lived through my own version of this years ago. Your lifeblood gets sucked out of you.

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On 8/13/2018 at 2:23 AM, millennium said:

As a transgender woman, I am always dismayed by the "it's really a guy" jokes.   I have seen them in this week's episode thread, and last week's too.

There's a pernicious stereotype in popular culture that transgender people exist solely to deceive "normal" folks, to lure them into some kind of "Crying Game" scenario.  It paints us as perverts and liars and helps to fuel the kind of distrust and hatred that keeps us from finding jobs, housing or even a bathroom to use.

I'm sure deceptions do happen from time to time, but it's more the exception than the rule, no doubt because any transgender woman who pulls that kind of shit is taking her life in her hands.   For example:

U.S. Marine convicted of killing transgender Filipina

As with any stereotype, entire groups of people should not be tarnished by the questionable behavior of a relative few.   The rest of us, all of whom are harmed by that kind of negative stereotype, simply want to live our lives without being regarded as objects of suspicion, scorn or ridicule.

What?  The "it's really a guy" statements have nothing to do with anyone being transgender.  It's about someone portraying themselves as female online when they are really male.

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23 minutes ago, Honey said:

What?  The "it's really a guy" statements have nothing to do with anyone being transgender.  It's about someone portraying themselves as female online when they are really male.

Yes, exactly my thought.  I didn't go transgender at all.

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On 13.8.2018 at 2:12 AM, Suzywriter said:

She looks like she's had illegal abortion(s).  Thinner, more sunken, less energy.

I am sorry but illegal abortions is the first thing that comes to you’re mind? I mean everything from iron problems to just the fact that she is engaged to Paul should be enough 

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6 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Actually not really- I worked in immigration law right out of law school (I’m a lawyer) and most of the K-1 visas I came across were people who either lived/worked/studied abroad for a decent length of time, met their significant other there, fell in love and wanted to get married- but wanted to live/work as a married couple in the USA. 

Most K-1 visas aren’t from online relationships, although this show would have you think that. Most applicants are normal who just happened to be citizens of other countries, and have spent time and energy planning a wedding long before the 90days. 

My husband and I didn’t do the K1 route, but my husband and I are a pretty “normal” couple that just happened to be from other countries. We did technically meet “on vacation” but it was a months-long backpacking trip and we developed a relationship over an extended period of time. We both love traveling and did some together and FB etc was really just a way for us to keep in touch between times we saw each other in person. And we dated for several years with longer visits to make sure we were out of “vacation mode” before committing.

I really don’t get hopping online with the intention to meet someone internationally. There’s so many apps, websites etc where you can find a variety of partners within an hours drive.

I had thought that the show hasn’t included US/Western European relationships because there was not enough drama in them but Evelyn/David, Darcy/Jesse and Rachel/Jon are proving me wrong. Also don’t get why David never visited Claremont before committing to the K1 - I assume he doesn’t have a record like a Jon does.

I think Jon’s an alcoholic. I get puking from nervousness or food poisoning or whatever but whenever that’s happened to me, I’m all watery-eyed and red-faced afterwards and I’d DIE of embarrassment if it happened on a public street in front of a camera crew! Jon’s nonchalance was weird and disturbing. It was like NBD?!

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I wondered if the Jesse makeup line was some kind of attempt to say Darcy shouldn't wear makeup because she's pretty without any makeup at all on, and it just came out wrong? Or am I giving him too much credit? I do think he's an asshole -- just not sure he was totally being one there or not. And Darcy was totally fishing for a compliment in asking him what he thought of her makeup (as she has toned it down considerably now). I really do think he was trying to say, "Hey, that does look better, but you don't really need it at all. You look better without it." 

One thing that made me sad as a female about Darcy's age -- before seeing Jesse again she kept saying, "I've worked on myself physically" and "I've changed physically" and cited her weight loss (but it's also apparent she's had a facelift), but we can tell as viewers that she hasn't changed at all internally. She is so insecure about her appearance as an older woman that that's all she can think about. Aging isn't for the weak, friends!

Another thing that makes me sad: I'm a South Carolina resident and Angela's representation of the South is killing me. But I guess no one is really doing great things from the places they hail from, now that I think about it. 


 

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I absolutely don't think Melissa is the woman in the pictures. Ricky was sending money, so he sent money to someone with that name at the bare minimum. That's assuming he was sending it via Western Union or any type of service that requires identification to pick up cash. I don't think whoever it is will show up. Is it possible that he's going to meet someone else (a plant from TLC to salvage this trip) or just a woman in Medellin, absolutely possible. Maybe the real Melissa--not the one in the pictures--will reveal her true self and they'll hit it off. Stranger things have happened in the reality telly universe. Catfish people always say, "My feelings for you are real. Everything I told you was real. I just look different than the pictures I used."

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23 minutes ago, GoGamecox said:

I wondered if the Jesse makeup line was some kind of attempt to say Darcy shouldn't wear makeup because she's pretty without any makeup at all on, and it just came out wrong? Or am I giving him too much credit? I do think he's an asshole -- just not sure he was totally being one there or not. And Darcy was totally fishing for a compliment in asking him what he thought of her makeup (as she has toned it down considerably now). I really do think he was trying to say, "Hey, that does look better, but you don't really need it at all. You look better without it." 

If Jesse thought she looked pretty without makeup, he could have said, “You don’t need any makeup because you are beautiful without it.” Not so hard to put that into words. And if Darcy was fishing for compliments, he could have gone along with it. Doesn’t cost anything to tell her what she wants to hear and make her feel good about herself. But that’s not how Jesse rolls. Why say something nice when you can put Darcy down? Darcy would feel so empowered if she stopped letting Jesse have control of her, stood up for herself and stopped allowing him to browbeat her.

Another thing he does is that he makes it her job to keep his emotions on an even keel. Not good.

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55 minutes ago, GoGamecox said:

One thing that made me sad as a female about Darcy's age -- before seeing Jesse again she kept saying, "I've worked on myself physically" and "I've changed physically" and cited her weight loss (but it's also apparent she's had a facelift), but we can tell as viewers that she hasn't changed at all internally. She is so insecure about her appearance as an older woman that that's all she can think about. Aging isn't for the weak, friends.

I agree.

I'm going to be 51 and luckily I get told that I look like i'm in my 30s a lot.  Still, it isn't easy.  And this is precisely why I wouldn't date someone in their 20s. (Admittedly, there is someone I play in a co-ed league who turns 38 say day I turn 51 who seems to be digging me and he's cute so I may dip that low in age range!).  Dating someone so much younger puts that much more pressure on your confidence on how youthful you appear!  No one wants to look like your date's mom.  So I'm not surprised Darcy's focus is on how she's transformed physically.   

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32 minutes ago, AussieBabe said:

Stranger things have happened in the reality telly universe. Catfish peoeple always say, "My feelings for you are real. Everything I told you was real. I just look different than the pictures I used."

And Catfish-ed people always say “of course if you’d’ve been honest I would have given you a chance of course but since you’re not honest [and mostly because I only care about looks and you’re not hot and I was getting super hot and waaaaaah I wanted hot] I just can’t do so.”

But of course Melissa is real and hot she just got caught in an elevator and then delivered a baby and did CPR and was finishing her journal article on cold fusion and lost track of time. 

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Maybe Ricky really is getting catfished and the producers thought it would make for good TV. After all, Myriam told Patrick "Sorry, I have a boyfriend" very early on but they still dragged out his visit to France for a few episodes, although at that point there it was obvious there would be no K1 Visa in the works. Perhaps we will be shown the aftermath of catfishing with Ricky coming to terms with it and telling his family they were right, etc. 

and then him dragging his happity ass home

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Even if Melissa was who she claimed to be; she didn't invite Ricky to come to her country and meet her.  He didn't include her in the planning.  He was like hey I'm coming to your country meet me @7.  Even if she were a real girl, she should have let him sat there.

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Re wardrobe choices of Rachel and Pole:

Rachel looked much thinner in her pregnancy photos. That's probably baby weight. And if she's like me, she may have just bought a few "fat" clothes until she loses the weight. (I usually don't lose the weight and finally size up.)

In Paul's arson mug shot, he looks heavier. Much fuller face. So maybe he lost a lot of weight. But whatever the reason, he needs clothes that fit. And better shoes for his flat feet. And a new personality. And body.

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1 hour ago, sconstant said:

And Catfish-ed people always say “of course if you’d’ve been honest I would have given you a chance of course but since you’re not honest [and mostly because I only care about looks and you’re not hot and I was getting super hot and waaaaaah I wanted hot] I just can’t do so.”

But of course Melissa is real and hot she just got caught in an elevator and then delivered a baby and did CPR and was finishing her journal article on cold fusion and lost track of time. 

Right! I just don't think a successful relationship could be built where you spent months or in some cases YEARS lying about anything and everything from your race to gender (literally this chick pretended to be Bow Wow--the rapper--and said she fooled women with a lamb skin sex toy) to where you live to the number of children you do or don't really have to people supposedly dying of cancer. Maybe if they weren't pathological liars who didn't take money or weren't scamming the Catfish-ed or talking to multiple men/women, there might be a chance of a romance blooming. 

Sadly, Ricky is to blame. Dude, you just decided you were going to take matters into your own hands and fly to Medellin without including her in the plans. Like sir, you don't know what she had going on because of her work schedule or family stuff, and for you just to pop up and be like meet me at 7...you deserve to still be sitting in that restaurant however many months later.

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On 8/13/2018 at 4:17 AM, Bridget said:

Some of MTV's Teen Moms/Jersey Shore girls started messing with their faces and bodies in their early 20s, so I wouldn't put it past Karine to try something, especially knowing that she's going to be popping up on a TV series. 

Also, Brazil is THE place that many Americans travel to for plastic surgery or other cosmetic procedures as it's very inexpensive to have work done there compared to the costs in the US. 

Her airport outfit was totally fugly, I agree. Then she walks around with Pole on Day 2 with greasy looking unwashed hair and a "cleaning my house on a Saturday" outfit. I understand not everyone is into fashion, nor can they afford to shop or even have access to spots like Target or Old Navy. Karine could've gone to Target.com and sent Pole a list of the clothing she needed/wanted in her size instead of asking for freakin onesies and stuffed animals!

Am I the only one who thinks it would have been hilarious if she'd requested items from the maternity section?

It wouldn't have hurt him to bring her some Kerastase products and to also take her to a hair salon to chop off about six inches from her hair. She looks straight up unkempt. Surely there's a hair salon in the same city as an airport?!

She was delighted with the poop emoji pillow.  They are both six years old in maturity.

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45 minutes ago, doyouevengohere said:

Even if Melissa was who she claimed to be; she didn't invite Ricky to come to her country and meet her.  He didn't include her in the planning.  He was like hey I'm coming to your country meet me @7.  Even if she were a real girl, she should have let him sat there.

Exactly. Ricky is not making a romantic gesture, he's a creepy stalker. 

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10 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

And I hate all of those sayings and would rather have a therapist that looks at people as individuals rather than as a collection of folksy sayings. 

I've been in therapy, weekly, since the summer of 2000.

22 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

cute shoes with good soles

Skechers makes fantastic stylish travel shoes.  I had a pair of slip-ons that looked like ballet slippers that took me all around the planet.

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3 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I agree.

I'm going to be 51 and luckily I get told that I look like i'm in my 30s a lot.  Still, it isn't easy.  And this is precisely why I wouldn't date someone in their 20s. (Admittedly, there is someone I play in a co-ed league who turns 38 say day I turn 51 who seems to be digging me and he's cute so I may dip that low in age range!).  Dating someone so much younger puts that much more pressure on your confidence on how youthful you appear!  No one wants to look like your date's mom.  So I'm not surprised Darcy's focus is on how she's transformed physically.   

I’m sure you are lovely!

After the age of 25, unless someone is concerned with having and raising Bio children, a 15years gap or less doesn’t phase me. 20years or more and you’re looking at them really being old enough to have parented you and it gets weird. 

I say go for your team mate!

 

Darcy does seem to have low self esteem- she’s doing what men have been doing for eons, having sex with younger people to make themselves feel young. 

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I absolutely don't think Melissa is the woman in the pictures. 

There is no Melissa. Whoever is texting with him has no connection to that porn model. There's no such person as Hazel, either. There may be some kind of grifter team at work where different people play different roles in the con. But these cast members are "in love" with phantoms. It's like "A Beautiful Mind," except that the delusions are less plausible.

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9 hours ago, jumper sage said:

Well here you go:  If you were wondering about the Arctic you can google CIA World Factbook and Arctic and you can find political and physical maps and decide which country you are interest in and then click on the country list.  About penguins in Antarctica here.  Of course you could Google penguins of Antarctica and find each country that have studies and such on penguins.  I like the NatGeo link.

If you have Twitter, you can follow The Antarctic Report. Penguins, snow, ice, southern lights, etc.

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15 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

If you have Twitter, you can follow The Antarctic Report. Penguins, snow, ice, southern lights, etc.

Done!  Thank you.

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4 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I'm going to be 51 and luckily I get told that I look like i'm in my 30s a lot.  Still, it isn't easy.  And this is precisely why I wouldn't date someone in their 20s. (Admittedly, there is someone I play in a co-ed league who turns 38 say day I turn 51 who seems to be digging me and he's cute so I may dip that low in age range!).  Dating someone so much younger puts that much more pressure on your confidence on how youthful you appear!  No one wants to look like your date's mom.  So I'm not surprised Darcy's focus is on how she's transformed physically.   

Go for that soon to be 38 year old!!!  YOU GO GIRL!

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44 minutes ago, IvySpice said:

There's no such person as Hazel, either.

 she’s real but VERY shy! She won’t come out of hiding when Tarik shows up with a camera crew. 

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Darcy and El Comandante trigger each other in such a bad way, it is painful to watch.  They really don't LISTEN when the other talks.  They have so much they want to spew, they can't take in what the other is saying, nor do they take a half second to absorb what was said and make a proper response.  There is a Lot of Baggage in those comments and landmines in the answers.  Darce is determined to keep her boitoi at the expense of her self-esteem.  El Comandante wants to visit the US and Darce is in the way.  

Ricky is waiting for a gal who is way out of his league and he's hoping she is overwhelmed by this personality, like he was with hers, obviously.  

Jon seems to be a little "off" personality-wise.  Can't wait to see what happens next week with the baby on board....

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25 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Go for that soon to be 38 year old!!!  YOU GO GIRL!

He's a teddy bear of a guy and is one of those quiet ones until you get to know him and then he turns out hilarious too!

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23 minutes ago, Eme said:

Darcy and El Comandante trigger each other in such a bad way, it is painful to watch.  They really don't LISTEN when the other talks.  They have so much they want to spew, they can't take in what the other is saying, nor do they take a half second to absorb what was said and make a proper response.  There is a Lot of Baggage in those comments and landmines in the answers.  Darce is determined to keep her boitoi at the expense of her self-esteem.  El Comandante wants to visit the US and Darce is in the way.  

Ricky is waiting for a gal who is way out of his league and he's hoping she is overwhelmed by this personality, like he was with hers, obviously.  

Jon seems to be a little "off" personality-wise.  Can't wait to see what happens next week with the baby on board....

Darcey and Mr. Fixer Upper are doing the codependent dance. There may be a shred of love, but it's just triggering whatever issue they each have. It won't end well. Darcey will not do anything about her inner stuff unless she has to. Lose 170 lbs the fast way by kicking the dude to the curb.

Ricky was just overwhelmed by the woman's appearance in her photo.

Jon raises some red flags that Rachel is probably too tired from raising a munchkin to even notice. She really needs to ask some serious and probably unpleasant questions to see who he really is. And vice versa.

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17 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Jon raises some red flags that Rachel is probably too tired from raising a munchkin to even notice. She really needs to ask some serious and probably unpleasant questions to see who he really is. And vice versa.

You don’t ask those questions because you don’t want to know the answers. Easier to make the person into your dream partner if you can write/fantasize your own narrative. Who wants to remove the rose colored glasses and face reality?

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8 hours ago, Honey said:

What?  The "it's really a guy" statements have nothing to do with anyone being transgender.  It's about someone portraying themselves as female online when they are really male.

Not to belabor the point, the comment I remarked upon was (and I'm paraphrasing), "he's so focused on the boobs, he won't notice the penis."

I've said my piece and I'd prefer to be done with this.

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11 hours ago, GoGamecox said:

wondered if the Jesse makeup line was some kind of attempt to say Darcy shouldn't wear makeup because she's pretty without any makeup at all on, and it just came out wrong? Or am I giving him too much credit? I do think he's an asshole -- just not sure he was totally being one there or not. And Darcy was totally fishing for a compliment in asking him what he thought of her makeup (as she has toned it down considerably now). I really do think he was trying to say, "Hey, that does look better, but you don't really need it at all. You look better without it." 

Definitely you are giving him too much credit. He was completely hostile. No reason he couldn't have said exactly what you did - "you're so pretty you don't need it," instead of "makeup's not for everyone." Jerk. Only a control freak tells you how to do your makeup. Trust me, I know.

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18 hours ago, Honey said:

What?  The "it's really a guy" statements have nothing to do with anyone being transgender.  It's about someone portraying themselves as female online when they are really male.

Thank you.  That's what I would have imagined was behind such statements, as well. But you said it much better than I could have!

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On August 12, 2018 at 7:32 PM, PeaceLily2 said:

Apologies to smokers.....but that little crack in the car window isn’t enough.  

The crack is probably just for the ashes to go out the window. As I say the world is their personal ashtray. 

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10 hours ago, millennium said:

Not to belabor the point, the comment I remarked upon was (and I'm paraphrasing), "he's so focused on the boobs, he won't notice the penis."

I've said my piece and I'd prefer to be done with this.

I do understand why this comment, without context, would  be offensive.  However,  even this comment, I think the key here is the way TLC is setting this up, it's obvious there is *something* shady about Melissa.  She doesn't want to do a video chat.  So it leads to us all questioning why?  Is it a catfish?  Or is it someone who may be transitioning?  The over-the-top look of this Melissa has a drag-queen quality as well.

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49 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I am really sorry if this has been answered, but did Ricky never speak to Miss Wonderful?  It was only texting or email?

He tried to video chat but it seemed to him like he was looking at a GIF not actually talking to someone who was answering his questions.

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On August 12, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Mercolleen said:

Why is Paul pushing a cart if he has no luggage?

Same reason elderly people leave their cane in the car and use a cart to walk around the grocery store to buy 2 small items. 

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Yeah, he interviewed that it seemed to be a gif on a loop when he tried to video chat.  He would ask questions and she wouldn't respond to what he was asking/saying.  That should have been his first clue.  He's so dumb.  If he really wants to meet this person he should text her that he's sending her some money and then wait outside the western union to see who picks it up.  At least be a savy stalker.

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On August 13, 2018 at 7:48 AM, CoachWristletJen said:

 

And meanwhile back in England... Jon a toothbrush in his pocket. 

Do these street regurgitation incidents happen that often?

And, buddy, next time can you aim for a trash can instead of just like wherever like a cat?

Cats do aim. If they are on a wood or tile floor they instead find something you care about or will have to spend time cleaning (rugs, clothes or shoes, important papers, etc) and puke on that. 

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3 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I do understand why this comment, without context, would  be offensive.  However,  even this comment, I think the key here is the way TLC is setting this up, it's obvious there is *something* shady about Melissa.  She doesn't want to do a video chat.  So it leads to us all questioning why?  Is it a catfish?  Or is it someone who may be transitioning?  The over-the-top look of this Melissa has a drag-queen quality as well.

Thank you to everyone who "liked" my original post on this matter.   It means a lot.

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Best part about Ricky is he's so convinced once she sees him and sees what a great guy he is, she's just going to instantly love him and squeeze him and call him George. I suspect he's not going to afford her the same courtesy once he gets a load of her and she's not who she claimed to be. I've talked to guys online but in no way, shape or form would I go barging into their lives without so much as a direct conversation to discuss a meet up first.

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15 hours ago, Eme said:

El Comandante

that would likely be DER KOMMANDANT, or maybe even... DER KOMMISSAR!!

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On 8/13/2018 at 3:56 PM, Granny58 said:

I took that to mean they were never going to need to meet anybody new ever again...so no further first kisses.

They definitely looked like they had kissed each other before. 

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2 hours ago, millennium said:

Thank you to everyone who "liked" my original post on this matter.   It means a lot.

Also, thank you for reminding us that there are real people that read this board and our comments could be hurtful.  Best of luck to you on your journey!

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On 8/15/2018 at 10:24 PM, GoGamecox said:

I wondered if the Jesse makeup line was some kind of attempt to say Darcy shouldn't wear makeup because she's pretty without any makeup at all on, and it just came out wrong? Or am I giving him too much credit? I do think he's an asshole -- just not sure he was totally being one there or not. And Darcy was totally fishing for a compliment in asking him what he thought of her makeup (as she has toned it down considerably now). I really do think he was trying to say, "Hey, that does look better, but you don't really need it at all. You look better without it." 

I dunno, I live in Germany and Germans are known to be brutally honest without regard to others feelings. Like "hey good morning, wow.. you look like crap today!". Like it just comes out of nowhere. I've even heard that the Dutch are even more brutally honest. At least, that is the excuse they give you when they insult you. But if you turn the tables on them, and treat them the same, suddenly they don't like it. So why can they dish it out but not take it? I still to this day am not convinced about this 'hey I'm being honest' excuse. There are ways to say things...

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On 8/13/2018 at 12:23 PM, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Jon barfing is 100% alcohol related. Either shots to get his nerve up, or a hangover. I was so skeeved when he made out w/her. 

The Lords Prayer purse slayed me. OMG. Does Angie know if Mom is Christian or not? 

Angie was a HOT MESS in that airport with bare shoulders skin tight pants with a hole in them, and high boots. Oh. My. 

It was refreshing to see Michael and his friends speak English beautifully, Karine and Paul have NO excuse to not have better English. Duolingo, you fools? 

Oh and no one in Thailand is named Hazel. 

Is anyone anywhere named Hazel anymore?  I think it went the way of Agatha and Hortense.

On 8/13/2018 at 12:28 PM, Eagle Woman said:

and all he can eat on the job...

Jon does resemble a billy goat.  Maybe he can unearth a tasty tin can.

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55 minutes ago, Spike said:

Is anyone anywhere named Hazel anymore?

On the show Outdaughtered there is a Hazel.  To answer your question, as someone who works in a public school I have seen no Hazels, ever.  

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